CavySlaveJambo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Very true And Africa, in theory, is where the Oxford University and Astra Zenica vaccine could of had the most benefit. Because any pharma company with vaccine manufacturing experience could manufacturer it without paying a licensing fee. Also because they are manufacturing and selling it as not-for-profit it means poorer countries could have procured more doses, either through CoVax, or by themselves, than the for profit vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Has anyone pulled you up in a bar etc asking if you've had the vaccine? I walk into rammed places as a vaccinated person and it never crosses my mind who else is or who isn't. No. Me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I've never heard of one person who has given a shit if someone next to them is vaccinated or not 14 minutes ago, Rocco_Jambo said: That's great. 9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Has anyone pulled you up in a bar etc asking if you've had the vaccine? I walk into rammed places as a vaccinated person and it never crosses my mind who else is or who isn't. Difference between giving a shit and actually asking someone though. A fairly big one. I suspect the vast majority of rational people in a bar would rather be surrounded by other vaccinated folk. Doubt any of them would go and ask someone though🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said: I suspect the vast majority of rational people in a bar would rather be surrounded by other vaccinated folk. I honestly don't think that most rational people would care Fancy starting a poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Gordon Zola said: Nah, try and work it out yourself. The classic response by anyone that has to deal with the deception claims…. You’ve all been duped Do your own research NWO is taking over We’ve all got a mate peddling this pish. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I honestly don't think that most rational people would care Fancy starting a poll Nah think it would be a waste of time. Anyone with half a brain would obviously rather sit in a pub that had the lowest possible risk of catching Covid. Levels of vaccination amongst other pub users wouldn’t impact their choice of pub or even cross their mind at any time while supping their pints but if it was possible to press a magic button and suddenly guaranteed that everyone else in the pub was vaccinated I think anyone in their right mind would push it. Anyone that says they wouldn’t is talking pish imo🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I've never heard of one person who has given a shit if someone next to them is vaccinated or not I’ll second this. It never crosses my mind. It’s a personal choice if you want to get vaccinated or not in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: Nah think it would be a waste of time. Anyone with half a brain would obviously rather sit in a pub that had the lowest possible risk of catching Covid. Levels of vaccination amongst other pub users wouldn’t impact their choice of pub or even cross their mind at any time while supping their pints but if it was possible to press a magic button and suddenly guaranteed that everyone else in the pub was vaccinated I think anyone in their right mind would push it. Anyone that says they wouldn’t is talking pish imo🤷🏻♂️ Most folk sitting in the pub after an hour would probably also press your magic button to change their hard wooden stool to have leather backing and fluffy sheep wool padding under their arse but it doesn't mean they care about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rocco_Jambo said: Most folk sitting in the pub after an hour would probably also press your magic button to change their hard wooden stool to have leather backing and fluffy sheep wool padding under their arse but it doesn't mean they care about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rocco_Jambo said: Most folk sitting in the pub after an hour would probably also press your magic button to change their hard wooden stool to have leather backing and fluffy sheep wool padding under their arse but it doesn't mean they care about it. Why press the button if they don’t care 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said: Why press the button if they don’t care 🤷🏻♂️ Because there's a button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Beni said: Back in the real world, 61 of 600 passengers from South Africa tested positive when they arrived in Amsterdam. It's not known yet how many if any have Omicron, but given that South Africa have only been having daily cases in the hundreds that seems like a very high proportion of inflected people. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/ But, when you say "infected", you do realise that according to SA medics, the variant is producing only mild symptoms so far. It could very well be the ultimate variant that ends up, as all Coronaviruses do, as a weak virus that becomes equivalent to the common cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Smithee said: Because there's a button And if they genuinely didn’t care they’d ignore it. 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: And if they genuinely didn’t care they’d ignore it. 🤷🏻♂️ It would be like placing a sheet of bubble wrap on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rocco_Jambo said: It would be like placing a sheet of bubble wrap on the table. Ach it’s a minor point and probably not worth this discussion 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: But, when you say "infected", you do realise that according to SA medics, the variant is producing only mild symptoms so far. It could very well be the ultimate variant that ends up, as all Coronaviruses do, as a weak virus that becomes equivalent to the common cold. It could well be Enzo. I'm guessing most of the 61 were asymptomatic, so showing no sign of disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: I honestly don't think that most rational people would care Fancy starting a poll I haven’t the slightest interest if I’m ina bat and someone is vaccinated or not . It doesn’t even cross my mind ., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: But, when you say "infected", you do realise that according to SA medics, the variant is producing only mild symptoms so far. It could very well be the ultimate variant that ends up, as all Coronaviruses do, as a weak virus that becomes equivalent to the common cold. It will be very interesting to see how this develops. You have to bear in mind that it's still extremely early days for the people who have identified omicron infections. It's going to be crucial to see how those cases develop and more and more cases to follow throughout the world. If it's true that most of these early omicron infections have only resulted in mild symptoms and that largely continues, it would be pretty damn good, especially when the low vaccination rate of South Africa is concerned. If all of this speculation proved to be the case, it would seem advantageous that this variant is proved more transmissible because it would surely outgun Delta. Next few weeks will surely yield some important news. Either way. Edited November 27, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: I haven’t the slightest interest if I’m ina bat and someone is vaccinated or not . It doesn’t even cross my mind ., You would have to be seriously paranoid to give a shit and you shouldn't be going out in public if you did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Victorian said: It will be very interesting to see how this develops. You have to bear in mind that it's still extremely early days for the people who have identified omicron infections. It's going to be crucial to see how those cases develop and more and more cases to follow throughout the world. If it's true that most of these early omicron infections have only resulted in mild symptoms and that largely continues, it would be pretty damn good, especially when the low vaccination rate of South Africa is concerned. If all of this speculation proved to be the case, it would seem advantageous that this variant is proved more transmissible because it would surely outgun Delta. Next few weeks will surely yield some important news. Either way. Yes, let's hope so. Interesting few weeks ahead.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You would have to be seriously paranoid to give a shit and you shouldn't be going out in public if you did Yep 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 There’s a great programme on bbc2 just now about Freddie Mercury it’s mainly focussing on that last pandemic .AIDS . It’s very interesting ., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You would have to be seriously paranoid to give a shit and you shouldn't be going out in public if you did Nah not that simple, there’s a million shades of grey in there. If I was standing at a busy bar trying to get served with someone pressed up against either side of me it might cross my mind whether they were vaccinated or possibly infected given the close proximity. It wouldn’t overly bother me though and there’s feck all I can really do about it anyway. It certainly wouldn’t make me move or lose my place in the queue. That all seems fairly rational to me and a million miles from paranoid behaviour like scrubbing down your groceries 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Yes, let's hope so. Interesting few weeks ahead.👍 The companies with advertising space on all manner of digital media platforms will be getting their money's worth. It would be incredibly ironic if this startling turn of events ended up being something really promising. Maybe it's unrealistic wishful thinking. The Chinese / Americans / lizard people of Zog have pushed the 'Stand Down' button on their biological bots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Victorian said: The companies with advertising space on all manner of digital media platforms will be getting their money's worth. It would be incredibly ironic if this startling turn of events ended up being something really promising. Maybe it's unrealistic wishful thinking. The Chinese / Americans / lizard people of Zog have pushed the 'Stand Down' button on their biological bots. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: Nah not that simple, there’s a million shades of grey in there. If I was standing at a busy bar trying to get served with someone pressed up against either side of me it might cross my mind whether they were vaccinated or possibly infected given the close proximity. It wouldn’t overly bother me though and there’s feck all I can really do about it anyway. It certainly wouldn’t make me move or lose my place in the queue. That all seems fairly rational to me and a million miles from paranoid behaviour like scrubbing down your groceries 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hope we get another lock down when hobos are at the bottom of the league🤧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Thank goodness you’ve got me on ignore 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: Thank goodness you’ve got me on ignore 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: 😂👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: There’s a great programme on bbc2 just now about Freddie Mercury it’s mainly focussing on that last pandemic .AIDS . It’s very interesting ., And the similarities are what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 56 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: It was a wonderful film, James, but so terribly sad. Both my wife and me were in tears when the poor man visited his partner as he was dying of AIDS and absolutely terrified. I am of the age who remembers when AIDS arrived and it was a terrible time with terrible attitudes. I wont lie. My attitude back then was probably not the best, due to ignorance, immaturity and a bit of fear. I'm glad that attitudes have changed for the better. Yes it was a great film . Yes brought back a lot of memories for me too . It was a scary time really . Incredible to think it’s almost curable really as it was a death sentence for millions back then . Yes many Victims were shunned due to the stigma of contracting it . Mercury was a great performer . He really was . And it was very sad about George Michael losing his partner . I don’t think he ever got over it really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Hmfc1965 said: And the similarities are what? Actually your right the only similarity was it was they were both pandemics but no One really gave a **** about those who were dying from aids as it was “ Only “ “ queers “ “junkies” , blacks and “ pros” who died from it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I came into this thread today expecting to see wide spread condemnation of Spaffer and the announcement of these extreme measures and impositions on the people of England and indeed the UK. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. I'm surprised, especially given the hysteria from our resident public health experts last week when Elsie McSelfie/Krankie/Chief Mammy (TOP BANTZ) was making her 'no change' announcement. Bizarre isn't it? You'd think it was less about public health and more about politics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I came into this thread today expecting to see wide spread condemnation of Spaffer and the announcement of these extreme measures and impositions on the people of England and indeed the UK. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. I'm surprised, especially given the hysteria from our resident public health experts last week when Elsie McSelfie/Krankie/Chief Mammy (TOP BANTZ) was making her 'no change' announcement. Bizarre isn't it? You'd think it was less about public health and more about politics? Not a word from our resident snp haters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victorian Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I came into this thread today expecting to see wide spread condemnation of Spaffer and the announcement of these extreme measures and impositions on the people of England and indeed the UK. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. I'm surprised, especially given the hysteria from our resident public health experts last week when Elsie McSelfie/Krankie/Chief Mammy (TOP BANTZ) was making her 'no change' announcement. Bizarre isn't it? You'd think it was less about public health and more about politics? To be as fair as possible, the recent news did come as a bit of a particularly serious jolt. I think anyone, anti-SNP or otherwise, probably realised there was going to have to be some government reaction to it. To that end, why would anyone complain or lambast? Another thing is that, I suspect anyway, that some lessons are being learned across the divides. I think more close and dispassionate consideration is being paid to information that comes along. I detect less hysteria and more reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: extreme measures and impositions on the people of England and indeed the UK. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. which ones ? a piece of cloth maybe mandatory in certain places ? PCR after coming from abroad ? least its not this still NO VP and no plans for them . Now thats an extreme imposition if applied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: which ones ? a piece of cloth maybe mandatory in certain places ? PCR after coming from abroad ? least its not this still NO VP and no plans for them . Now thats an extreme imposition if applied You sure about that? Remember it was only 2 weeks ago there was no need for any plan B measures. It's all up for grabs as Spaffer has Christmas to save. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: You sure about that? Remember it was only 2 weeks ago there was no need for any plan B measures. It's all up for grabs as Spaffer has Christmas to save. Again. You didn't hear Ellsie this morning then ? She said travel restrictions may " have to go further" than those decreed by Boris last night ? She's at it again...its so boring now. She even mentioned not ruling out restrictions the English / Scottish border. Playing to the muppets yet again...However to be fair to her she was also quite measured saying its a moving scenario which it is as such but the earlier rhetoric is just sabre rattling which i thought we had gone passed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: which ones ? a piece of cloth maybe mandatory in certain places ? PCR after coming from abroad ? least its not this still NO VP and no plans for them . Now thats an extreme imposition if applied Sajid Javid 'We're nowhere near imposing social distancing Covid rules' Elsie and her minions will be spewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: You didn't hear Ellsie this morning then ? She said travel restrictions may " have to go further" than those decreed by Boris last night ? She's at it again...its so boring now. She even mentioned not ruling out restrictions the English / Scottish border. Playing to the muppets yet again...However to be fair to her she was also quite measured saying its a moving scenario which it is as such but the earlier rhetoric is just sabre rattling which i thought we had gone passed now. I never heard her. As soon as I saw her face on Andrew Marr I switched over. I knew she would be on sabre rattling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Sajid Javid 'We're nowhere near imposing social distancing Covid rules' Elsie and her minions will be spewing and quelle surprise re Indy 2 Nicola Sturgeon warns Omicron variant may delay second independence referendum | The National Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 So much for that then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Maybe we should wait and see what happens before the toys are oot the pram . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: I came into this thread today expecting to see wide spread condemnation of Spaffer and the announcement of these extreme measures and impositions on the people of England and indeed the UK. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. I'm surprised, especially given the hysteria from our resident public health experts last week when Elsie McSelfie/Krankie/Chief Mammy (TOP BANTZ) was making her 'no change' announcement. Bizarre isn't it? You'd think it was less about public health and more about politics? They're probably still in their bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: You didn't hear Ellsie this morning then ? She said travel restrictions may " have to go further" than those decreed by Boris last night ? She's at it again...its so boring now. She even mentioned not ruling out restrictions the English / Scottish border. Playing to the muppets yet again...However to be fair to her she was also quite measured saying its a moving scenario which it is as such but the earlier rhetoric is just sabre rattling which i thought we had gone passed now. So right now as of today Johnson has reintroduced masks (not that he ever wears one) and now you have to get a PCR on return to the UK? What's Sturgeon done? Nothing. No change. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: You sure about that? Remember it was only 2 weeks ago there was no need for any plan B measures. It's all up for grabs as Spaffer has Christmas to save. Again. Top Bantz to coin a phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: You sure about that? Remember it was only 2 weeks ago there was no need for any plan B measures. It's all up for grabs as Spaffer has Christmas to save. Again. did we know about the omicron variant two weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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