Unknown user Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 She's absolutely right, the fact that the DfT hasn't made it fit for the future is a failure of Westminster. Public ownership in itself isn't a silver bullet, other stuff needs to be done by a willing and cooperative government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Smithee said: She's absolutely right, the fact that the DfT hasn't made it fit for the future is a failure of Westminster. Public ownership in itself isn't a silver bullet, other stuff needs to be done by a willing and cooperative government. There is a lot to unpack here. The pouting selfie, being an MP and not knowing what you a talking about, getting owned by Cameron (first name David?) in the replies. Magnificent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: There is a lot to unpack here. The pouting selfie, being an MP and not knowing what you a talking about, getting owned by Cameron (first name David?) in the replies. Magnificent. "Just another reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future" Only doing the first half because the franchisee handed it back and then not doing the second half ticks those boxes does it? She's right, and you're just a committed Tory apologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, Smithee said: "Just another reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future" Only doing the first half because the franchisee handed it back and then not doing the second half ticks those boxes does it? She's right, and you're just a committed Tory apologist. If you think that nationalising the rail network will solve all its ills, then you are living in La La land. I say this as someone who has now worked in the rail industry for Seventeen years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, John Findlay said: If you think that nationalising the rail network will solve all its ills, then you are living in La La land. I say this as someone who has now worked in the rail industry for Seventeen years. John I said exactly the opposite of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Smithee said: "Just another reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future" Only doing the first half because the franchisee handed it back and then not doing the second half ticks those boxes does it? She's right, and you're just a committed Tory apologist. Network Rail, the infrastructure operator is in public ownership and has been for 20 years. Overhead wires routinely get damaged by weather and need repairs. That's always going to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Network Rail, the infrastructure operator is in public ownership and has been for 20 years. Overhead wires routinely get damaged by weather and need repairs. That's always going to be the case. She's sitting in a broken down train, and it's a reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Smithee said: She's sitting in a broken down train, and it's a reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future 🤷♂️ The train is delayed not broken. Reminder to do something that has already been done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Smithee said: She's sitting in a broken down train, and it's a reminder that we need to take rail into public ownership and make it fit for the future 🤷♂️ The train wasn't broken down. There wasn't anything wrong with the train. The problem was with the OHLE. Overhead line Electric. They can become inoperable if even a plastic bag gets trapped on them. They have 25,000 volts running through them, and as such have to be treated with great care and respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: The train wasn't broken down. There wasn't anything wrong with the train. The problem was with the OHLE. Overhead line Electric. They can become inoperable if even a plastic bag gets trapped on them. They have 25,000 volts running through them, and as such have to be treated with great care and respect. There was something wrong with the train, it's meant to be in Leeds! I'm not attacking the train's credibility, it's feelings won't be hurt, it doesn't care of I'm using a general term. If you like I call call it delayed? Or punctuality challenged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: There was something wrong with the train, it's meant to be in Leeds! I'm not attacking the train's credibility, it's feelings won't be hurt, it doesn't care of I'm using a general term. If you like I call call it delayed? Or punctuality challenged? The train was fine, it was an infrastructure issue. The infrastructure like overhead lines etc are maintained by network rail. The trains that run on them are run by tocs, essentially under the dft atm but they are run by private companies still until the dft decides the way forward. Regardless your point of fit for the future is the main one👍 Edited September 21, 2022 by fabienleclerq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Next strike 8th October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1st.5th and 8th of October the next days of strike action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 We didn’t deliberately target the London Marathon says Comrade Lynch - lying scumbag 🤥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) I heard BBC's Ben Wright ask Mick if he was enjoying the limelight too much. Seriously. Threw in the running for charities line, too. Mick dealt with it like folks should with the trolls on here. Edited October 1, 2022 by Riccarton3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: We didn’t deliberately target the London Marathon says Comrade Lynch - lying scumbag 🤥 A Tory calling anyone a scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, ri Alban said: A Tory calling anyone a scumbag. He is a fantasist , like Trust, just can't get his head around the real world. Too busy blaming everyone else ,and calling anyone who shows any human empathy towards those living in hell because of this government's draconian policies towards the non rich as lefty commies. What set of scumbag/s deliberately makes the poor poorer. Makes the well off even more wealthy at the expense of those with nowt ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: He is a fantasist , like Trust, just can't get his head around the real world. Too busy blaming everyone else ,and calling anyone who shows any human empathy towards those living in hell because of this government's draconian policies towards the non rich as lefty commies. What set of scumbag/s deliberately makes the poor poorer. Makes the well off even more wealthy at the expense of those with nowt ?? They're trying to make the poor more desperate. And the fear that they will willingly work for peanuts, to keep the wolves from the door. The government empowered wolves. England needs a Labour Government. Pronto. Edited October 1, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Bit of a move from Labour towards supporting the workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Bit of a move from Labour towards supporting the workers. He is correct. You don't lose £1M a day and all of a sudden its the strike that's the issue. The private company that's running the RM need to own their mismanagement over many years. That's the trouble when we sell off our assets. Its about time Labour stood up for working people. Its a bit late but its welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Royal Mail has to exist in a market where dozens of other couriers exist are and outperforming them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) New strike days: Network rail: 3, 5, 7 November TOCS: 3, 5 November Edited October 19, 2022 by IronJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronJambo said: New strike days: National rail: 3, 5, 7 November TOCS: 3, 5 November Good luck 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Good luck 🤞 Cheers min. The last of the strikes before our re-ballot I think. I just hope everyone puts crosses in the right boxes or we're all bollocksed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, IronJambo said: New strike days: Network rail: 3, 5, 7 November TOCS: 3, 5 November Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Good luck. I feel like a fraud. I was off sick for most of the summer and I'm on annual leave for the latest dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 12 hours ago, ri Alban said: Good luck 🤞 9 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Good luck. Obviously don't use the trains to get around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, IronJambo said: I feel like a fraud. I was off sick for most of the summer and I'm on annual leave for the latest dates You shouldn’t as that’s just the way it’s happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Nucky Thompson said: Obviously don't use the trains to get around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 12:55, dobmisterdobster said: Royal Mail has to exist in a market where dozens of other couriers exist are and outperforming them. Royal Mail has to exist in a market where thousands of self employed couriers can't even take a days holiday UNLESS they have organised a stand-in to cover for them otherwise courier companies will effectively fine them to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I don't know a single person who even notices when Royal mail go on strike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, IronJambo said: I feel like a fraud. I was off sick for most of the summer and I'm on annual leave for the latest dates Cant help being sick, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I don't know a single person who even notices when Royal mail go on strike So everyone you know doesn't notice when their mail isn't being delivered ? That works on so many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I don't know a single person who even notices when Royal mail go on strike Yep. Apart from weirdo’s on here who expects mail every day ? Those days are long gone. My postie doesn’t even know the details what they are striking over. 😂 Pay and conditions apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dazo said: Yep. Apart from weirdo’s on here who expects mail every day ? Those days are long gone. My postie doesn’t even know the details what they are striking over. 😂 Pay and conditions apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: Obviously don't use the trains to get around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I don't know a single person who even notices when Royal mail go on strike Do they deliver to the site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Man, these rail strikes are a nightmare but they have to keep going. This government needs killed by a thousand cuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, briever said: That’s very childish Briever. 😢 Everyone’s a liar or has different things experiences from you ? 😂 Have you spoke to your postie about it ? Mines plays golf or meets his daughter for lunch on strike days. Doesn’t even pretend he gives a shit or stand on any picket line ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Man, these rail strikes are a nightmare but they have to keep going. This government needs killed by a thousand cuts Yep, we use the east coast main line quite a lot and ****s up a lot of plans. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: So everyone you know doesn't notice when their mail isn't being delivered ? That works on so many levels. Everyone I know couldn't tell you what days that they've been on strike. I would have to google it myself. I sometimes don't get mail for days and when I do its mostly junk. All my bank statements etc. are paperless nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Everyone I know couldn't tell you what days that they've been on strike. I would have to google it myself. I sometimes don't get mail for days and when I do its mostly junk. All my bank statements etc. are paperless nowadays I do agree with this. Royal Mail strikes make zero impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 08:52, Mikey1874 said: Bit of a move from Labour towards supporting the workers. Posties don't have a monopoly on the services they provided, much less true in the case of rail workers. I'm sure there will be blame enough for all sides but if they don't fix it others will step in and take their business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroondevo52 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I do agree with this. Royal Mail strikes make zero impact Don't think the thousands of Businesses that rely on them would agree. Edited October 20, 2022 by maroondevo52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, maroondevo52 said: Don't think the thousands of Businesses that rely on them would agree. Rely may be too strong, use them may be better. I’d imagine most can easily make contingencies for odd day strikes. Less and less people and businesses solely rely on Royal Mail these days, it’s a saturated market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Mike lynch, fantastic orator 😎😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: Everyone I know couldn't tell you what days that they've been on strike. I would have to google it myself. I sometimes don't get mail for days and when I do its mostly junk. All my bank statements etc. are paperless nowadays Same energy Edited October 20, 2022 by periodictabledancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, briever said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Dazo said: Yep. Apart from weirdo’s on here who expects mail every day ? Those days are long gone. My postie doesn’t even know the details what they are striking over. 😂 Pay and conditions apparently. Anyone else got good Didn't Happen Of The Year contenders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: Anyone else got good Didn't Happen Of The Year contenders? The amount of sh1t the usual suspects fabricate just to be contrary is truly something to behold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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