Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

15 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Sturgeon on twitter plugging her daily watch with mother tv show 

 

(19) Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter: "For info: I’ll give today’s Covid update in @ScotParl at 2.05pm. As well as today’s statistics, it will include an update on what we understand so far about the new strain of the virus and our advice in light of that. Please tune in if you can." / Twitter

 

Some of those replies from her followers are priceless 

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by JamesM48

[hmfcbilly]

1 hour ago, Harry Potter said:

So they spin the truth , given up on the news now, 

Haven't watched the news for months. Just been in the local card factory, tiny wee shop, maximum 10 customers in at the same time. Folk crossing over the 1 way system to get to cards, staff no masks on as there's a perspex screen at the till (yet this virus is airborne?).  Theyve likely been working like that for months and clearly not caught covid (or you hope the set up in store wouldve changed at the very least), yet its not safe for kids to attend school after Christmas (but alright to finish the term off before 🤷‍♂️). The 3 week delayed return will likely turn in to months of 'blended' (or realistically hardly any learning) yet its ok for supermarket and other key workers to go to work each day?? Im literally done with all the shite double standards and nonsensical decisions all the tin pot 'leaders' have come up with the past 9 months or so and continue to do so. At least covid can also be blamed for them not canvassing the doors at next years holyrood elections as I suspect a few of the MSPs would be in for some serious verbals. 

[Taffin]

I'm pro-independence and despite not thinking she's been good over this crisis, a fan of Sturgeon but wow, those comments make me think independence would be a disaster, do people really need another human to tell them what to do, when and why? It's nauseating, sycophantic stuff.

[hmfcbilly]

7 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

 

 

 

 

No words to describe those twitter posts 🙈 can't even spell correctly. 

[ri Alban]

Unions trying to get building and construction shut down. I actually might need it off as I've just fecked my Hip/back again. 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 22 December 2020

Summary

• 1,316* new cases of COVID-19 reported [-188]
• 43 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+43]
• 60 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+1]

• 1,045 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-27]

• 19,547 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 7.5% of these were positive [-8.504; +1.5%]

* The increased number of new cases in the past few days may have been affected by backlog issues at UK Government laboratories over the weekend. The backlog has reduced but is also likely to have affected today’s figures.

[hmfcbilly]

3 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Union trying to get building and construction shut down. I actually might need it off as I've just fecked my Hip/back again. 

Thought you hated the union??!😜😂

[Governor Tarkin]

4 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Unions trying to get building and construction shut down. I actually might need it off as I've just fecked my Hip/back again. 

 

Dull yin, bud. The cold and damp weather won't be helping with that either. Maybe best to put your feet up for a fortnight or so.

[redjambo]

Per-100,000 case rates around the boards today:

 

Scotland 24 [-4].

 

Greater Glasgow 36 [+5], Grampian 29 [+4], Ayrshire 27 [+2], Lothian 24 [-7], Fife 22 [=], Lanarkshire 21 [-15], Borders 20 [-4].

 

Tayside 18 [-15], Dumfries & Galloway 17 [+7], Forth Valley 13 [-15].

 

The others: less than 10.

 

 

[Pasquale for King]

13 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I would advise blocking that Hibs ***** for the good of your mental health. He’s worse than anyone on here, including me 🙈. 

[ri Alban]

1 minute ago, hmfcbilly said:

Thought you hated the union??!😜😂

Don't hate it, just don't need it. As for this, I'm a bit... They do have a point, but, the feckers are still sticking to the same rules from April about grants. Which is a bit strange, if this is a new lockdown. 

[ri Alban]

2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Dull yin, bud. The cold and damp weather won't be helping with that either. Maybe best to put your feet up for a fortnight or so.

I put them up last Wednesday, so I lost two days at my own site, then I lost £500 on a homer for my mates company on Saturday . I went to pick up some leaves, which was fine, then I put my leg to the side and bent down like a Ninja, and got up like a pensioner. 😢

[hmfcbilly]

2 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Don't hate it, just don't need it. As for this, I'm a bit... They do have a point, but, the feckers are still sticking to the same rules from April about grants. Which is a bit strange, if this is a new lockdown. 

Couldnt resist a wee leg pull on you 😉 i hope work wise you're ok though if they do shut the sites and you're self employed. 

[ri Alban]

1 minute ago, hmfcbilly said:

Couldnt resist a wee leg pull on you 😉 i hope work wise you're ok though if they do shut the sites and you're self employed. 

 

I know Bud and cheers.

We'll just need to watch our money over Christmas, not that we can go anywhere.

[Governor Tarkin]

2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

This is pretty down message from the Fish, it going to be long hard few months I think. 
 

They need that Oxford vaccine approved pronto or they will be in real trouble. 

 

It's utterly depressing tbqfhwy.

[hmfcbilly]

6 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Sounds like schools are going to be shut longer and online learning extended, 

Not surprised in the least if this happens. Teacher union been banging on about shutting schools for months. Wonder how they would feel if the supermarkets were shut to protect the staff there and everyone just received a basic food parcel on their doorstep once a week? Or if the hospitals shut completely (except for covid patients) to protect all NHS staff? My comparisons may seem a bit extreme to some but Ilgiven the low transmission rates with children (especially primary age) i just don't get this obsession with closing schools for prolonged periods

[hmfcbilly]

10 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

 

I know Bud and cheers.

We'll just need to watch our money over Christmas, not that we can go anywhere.

Youll not be able to buy much in the supermarkets either in a week or so the way Boris is going! See, told you i wasn't a Tory😜🤣🤣 have a good Xmas mate and fingers crossed for the new year 

[Governor Tarkin]

2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

I could see us be locked up until we’re all jabbed up, at this rate. 

 

It looks like that's the way she want's to play it.

 

Big train coming hurtling down the track at us.

[ri Alban]

5 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said:

Youll not be able to buy much in the supermarkets either in a week or so the way Boris is going! See, told you i wasn't a Tory😜🤣🤣 have a good Xmas mate and fingers crossed for the new year 

👍 And you and yours. 

[frankblack]

Just now, Governor Tarkin said:

 

It looks like that's the way she want's to play it.

 

Big train coming hurtling down the track at us.

 

She needs to realise that she has completely screwed up the handling of the pandemic so far with Schools and Unis.  From her point of view everything else must shut to keep them open when they have been running unchecked since August.

 

She can't keep the economy shut down for months this coming year or its all going to collapse.  Hospitality must be on the verge of folding, as will the nighttime economy.

 

A change of approach is needed and that means enforcing the rules they already have, and also I'd suggest stopping mass gatherings in schools and unis as the pupils have ignored the rules from the start.

[JudyJudyJudy]

" Can i just be clear " whoopie !  still waiting her to say " cautious" . Some militant hag from SNP asking Nicky how the Polis are going to patrol the border...Incredible. .

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Struggle to find many positives right now, myself. 
 

The language is interesting if that is your kind of thing. She is preparing us for worse to come and using . I’m not sure how much they can ramp up level 4 except policing in hard which they don’t have numbers for and not convinced is the right approach 

 

NHS cancelling opps is the latest likely impact and we need to start clapping again on a Thursday again. Thankfully I was so COVID compliant I didn’t clap I trained seal. 

 

They needs the Oxford vaccine desperately I hope they have inside track on that otherwise this falls apart quickly. 

Well im awaiting another Op and its defined as " urgent. So lets see. Ill be back on the blower to my MSP yet again. Only way she might listen whilst flippantly saying that ops may be need cancelled etc without any thought or understanding how anxious it is making people feel. 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Now they are saying they will be " encouraging " people to stay at home as much as possible once the new Tier 4 begins.   This is really concerning.  Absolute madness.  What exactly will it take for people to feel they have had enough ?

[Governor Tarkin]

Did I just pick that up right on the Politics Scotland show just now. The lassie giving the summary said that level 4 is being beefed up with consideration given to passing laws to keep us in our homes?

 

Surely no?

[sadj]

8 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

We need more pavement dancer types imo.

🤣🤣 I don’t get the impression you were a pavement dancer in years gone by I’d reckon you’d have been front and centre mate. Hope you and the family are well. Take it you are home for Christmas? 

[Governor Tarkin]

Just now, sadj said:

🤣🤣 I don’t get the impression you were a pavement dancer in years gone by I’d reckon you’d have been front and centre mate. Hope you and the family are well. Take it you are home for Christmas? 

 

Home for Christmas, sadj, buddy, and despite the circumstances being far from ideal I'm really looking forward to it, cheers.

 

Hope all is good with you and yours. 👍

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Poor old Krankie. Wanted to be seen like the New Zealand PM. But is as inept as everyone else 

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Did I just pick that up right on the Politics Scotland show just now. The lassie giving the summary said that level 4 is being beefed up with consideration given to passing laws to keep us in our homes?

 

Surely no?

If I can’t go to the pub then it doesn’t matter to me.

[Governor Tarkin]

3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Yes but no. 
 

Tier 4 restrictions to be beefed up. They were talking up putting essential travel only into law I thought. Therefore you leave house, to buy a houseplant they can do you, 

 

If your not out for an essential reason it appears you will breaking law, though I may have picked up wrong. 
 

The message was lock yourself up in your house as much as possible. 

 

What a time to be alive, indeed.

 

 

[GBJambo]

4 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Yes but no. 
 

Tier 4 restrictions to be beefed up. They were talking up putting essential travel only into law I thought. Therefore you leave house, to buy a houseplant they can do you, 

 

If your not out for an essential reason it appears you will breaking law, though I may have picked up wrong. 
 

The message was lock yourself up in your house as much as possible. 

How exactly are they going to police this without wasting huge police resource 

[Governor Tarkin]

3 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

How exactly are they going to police this without wasting huge police resource 

 

Raise a volunteer militia.

[redjambo]

The latest 7-day per-100,000 case rates around the councils. The general rate in Scotland is the highest it has been in a month, but so that no-one complains I am looking on the negative side of things, great to see East Lothian down two on yesterday's figure.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Today	Yesterday				20 Dec	19 Dec	18 Dec	17 Dec	16 Dec
Scotland		121	112	+9			98	96	105	111	111
North Ayrshire	3	193	189	+4			175	160	174	194	191
Aberdeen City	3	176	162	+14			163	150	162	166	154
East Lothian	3	172	174	-2			148	146	147	148	150
East Ayrshire	3	168	154	+14			153	160	159	171	183
Glasgow City	3	153	135	+18			129	122	140	143	145
East Renfrewshire	3	147	129	+18			101	91	109	109	111
Renfrewshire	3	147	122	+25			116	106	121	141	136
West Dunbartonshire	3	145	126	+19			120	102	99	105	93
Clackmannanshire	3	144	150	-6			148	138	173	167	171
Perth and Kinross	3	144	139	+5			126	116	143	124	127
Midlothian	3	139	136	+3			136	142	151	176	190
South Lanarkshire	3	133	129	+4			120	119	122	133	135
North Lanarkshire	3	131	131	0			119	129	133	141	146
Edinburgh City	3	129	122	+7			109	106	112	113	111
Dundee City	3	129	119	+10			113	125	146	149	155
Aberdeenshire	3	118	106	+12			88	79	82	84	80
Fife	3	111	107	+4			97	100	118	128	134
Scottish Borders	1	106	100	+6			85	87	100	92	92
West Lothian	3	103	97	+6			83	87	89	92	97
East Dunbartonshire	3	102	91	+11			70	67	78	86	90
South Ayrshire	3	95	97	-2			98	96	99	118	126
Stirling	3	91	94	-3			70	62	67	67	76
Inverclyde	2	86	73	+13			59	54	64	66	60
Falkirk	2	84	80	+4			60	64	65	70	87
Angus	2	64	52	+12			37	37	45	47	49
Dumfries & Galloway	1	54	40	+14			32	26	29	24	19
Argyll and Bute	2	41	38	+3			29	28	33	37	33
Moray	1	41	26	+15			13	17	19	21	19
Highland	1	28	24	+4			17	17	18	17	17
Na h-Eileanan Siar	1	11	15	-4			22	19	15	15	30
Shetland Islands	1	4	4	0			0	0	0	0	0
Orkney Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	0

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Did I just pick that up right on the Politics Scotland show just now. The lassie giving the summary said that level 4 is being beefed up with consideration given to passing laws to keep us in our homes?

 

Surely no?

YES you did. Surely this is a step too far. Need massive civil disobedience/ demos if anything like this passed into legislation,

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Francis Albert said:

Where did you read that? Page 14 of the Guardian? 

 

In that paper I read a week or two ago that Italy had overtaken the UK in deaths to date. That was on about page 14. When the same thing happened in reverse (UK going above Italy) it was the main headline and story on the front page. 

 

Indeed, I remember that, Kay Burley had Dr. Margaret Harris from the WHO on her show and Burley was asking how is the UK so bad, how have we got this so wrong etc etc etc. 

 

The reply from Dr. Harris was definitely not the reply Burley was wanting, because Dr. Harris said that you can't just look at numbers you also have to take into account age, health, lifestyle, all manner of different things, Burley was having none of that, so pushed again with the UK is crap agenda, to which Dr. Harris delivered the coup de gras to Burley, when Dr. Harris said that you in the UK also have the NHS.

This clearly took Burley by surprise because Burley asked what the NHS had to do with it, Dr. Harris replied that the NHS has become very good at keeping people alive, people with serious multiple and complex medical conditions, which in many other European countries wouldn't still be alive, Dr. Harris added, Kay you have to understand that in the UK there are many thousands of very sick people with complex medical conditions and if it weren't for the brilliance of the NHS they wouldn't be alive now, Covid-19 targets the old and sick, so I am not surprised that the UK has some of the highest death numbers in Europe, in fact the UK is doing quite well.

 

Burley ended the interview there, it clearly wasn't going the way Burley had wanted it to go, especially when Dr. Harris thought the UK was doing ok. 

 

Strangely the interview didn't get repeated numerious times throughout the day, like most others do, mmmm I wonder why that was.

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

I don’t know.
 

Becoming a law will marginally increase compliance.
 

Whilst giving the police the ability to lift anyone outside they unless they have a pint of milk with them.

Impossible to enforce. I hope the Polis try and itll then been viewed as completely ineffective.  Laws should only br brought in which can be enforced.  Ill be out every day for " exercise"  so thats my excuse  of Plod stops me, whether I have a pint of milk in my hand or not. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day per-100,000 case rates around the councils. The general rate in Scotland is the highest it has been in a month, but so that no-one complains I am looking on the negative side of things, great to see East Lothian down two on yesterday's figure.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Today	Yesterday				20 Dec	19 Dec	18 Dec	17 Dec	16 Dec
Scotland		121	112	+9			98	96	105	111	111
North Ayrshire	3	193	189	+4			175	160	174	194	191
Aberdeen City	3	176	162	+14			163	150	162	166	154
East Lothian	3	172	174	-2			148	146	147	148	150
East Ayrshire	3	168	154	+14			153	160	159	171	183
Glasgow City	3	153	135	+18			129	122	140	143	145
East Renfrewshire	3	147	129	+18			101	91	109	109	111
Renfrewshire	3	147	122	+25			116	106	121	141	136
West Dunbartonshire	3	145	126	+19			120	102	99	105	93
Clackmannanshire	3	144	150	-6			148	138	173	167	171
Perth and Kinross	3	144	139	+5			126	116	143	124	127
Midlothian	3	139	136	+3			136	142	151	176	190
South Lanarkshire	3	133	129	+4			120	119	122	133	135
North Lanarkshire	3	131	131	0			119	129	133	141	146
Edinburgh City	3	129	122	+7			109	106	112	113	111
Dundee City	3	129	119	+10			113	125	146	149	155
Aberdeenshire	3	118	106	+12			88	79	82	84	80
Fife	3	111	107	+4			97	100	118	128	134
Scottish Borders	1	106	100	+6			85	87	100	92	92
West Lothian	3	103	97	+6			83	87	89	92	97
East Dunbartonshire	3	102	91	+11			70	67	78	86	90
South Ayrshire	3	95	97	-2			98	96	99	118	126
Stirling	3	91	94	-3			70	62	67	67	76
Inverclyde	2	86	73	+13			59	54	64	66	60
Falkirk	2	84	80	+4			60	64	65	70	87
Angus	2	64	52	+12			37	37	45	47	49
Dumfries & Galloway	1	54	40	+14			32	26	29	24	19
Argyll and Bute	2	41	38	+3			29	28	33	37	33
Moray	1	41	26	+15			13	17	19	21	19
Highland	1	28	24	+4			17	17	18	17	17
Na h-Eileanan Siar	1	11	15	-4			22	19	15	15	30
Shetland Islands	1	4	4	0			0	0	0	0	0
Orkney Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	0

👍

[Harry Potter]

1 hour ago, hmfcbilly said:

Haven't watched the news for months. Just been in the local card factory, tiny wee shop, maximum 10 customers in at the same time. Folk crossing over the 1 way system to get to cards, staff no masks on as there's a perspex screen at the till (yet this virus is airborne?).  Theyve likely been working like that for months and clearly not caught covid (or you hope the set up in store wouldve changed at the very least), yet its not safe for kids to attend school after Christmas (but alright to finish the term off before 🤷‍♂️). The 3 week delayed return will likely turn in to months of 'blended' (or realistically hardly any learning) yet its ok for supermarket and other key workers to go to work each day?? Im literally done with all the shite double standards and nonsensical decisions all the tin pot 'leaders' have come up with the past 9 months or so and continue to do so. At least covid can also be blamed for them not canvassing the doors at next years holyrood elections as I suspect a few of the MSPs would be in for some serious verbals. 

Good post Billy, still some up here maskless in the shops, beyond me, my late father was born in Lilliesleaf just down the road from you, lovely countryside down that way.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Lord BJ said:

It’s impossible to enforce on a large scale its entirely enforceable on a small scale. That hope is that acts as a deterrent 

 

I think it’s fair to say I would not approve of such a plan to put this sort of thing into laws. 
 

They will have seriously lost it  if they do.  It all strikes of panic response and i mean anxious . manic panic  responses not reasoned well thought out responses to stopping or lessening transmissions. 

[manaliveits105]

49 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

She’s keeping asking to be Frank, maybe something in those rumours. 

Probably - she can be Frank and Judy Ernest 

[Maroon Sailor]

How many times did she use the word caution ?

 

Did she get approval to be clear ?

[Francis Albert]

57 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Did I just pick that up right on the Politics Scotland show just now. The lassie giving the summary said that level 4 is being beefed up with consideration given to passing laws to keep us in our homes?

 

Surely no?

I thought once Boris created Tier 4 matching Scotland's highest number Nicola would respond by creating a Tier 5. Maybe this will be it. 

[Governor Tarkin]

5 minutes ago, jonesy said:

First thing I'll be doing is a brisk walk to Bute House to shove a toley through the letterbox.

 

She doesn't live there.

It's in the wrong city.

 

Edit. I share the sentiment, however.

Edited December 22, 2020 by Governor Tarkin

[doctor jambo]

53 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

YES you did. Surely this is a step too far. Need massive civil disobedience/ demos if anything like this passed into legislation,

Doesn’t matter, we handed over all our guns. Don’t even have my old gat or .177.

might still have the old survival knife with the catapult in the handle 

[JudyJudyJudy]

14 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

🤣

 

Will be treating this one with the same contempt I have all their other arbitrary decrees. First thing I'll be doing is a brisk walk to Bute House to shove a toley through the letterbox.

Surely this will galvanise people into some form of collective action. If not we are doomed

 

[Jambo314]

1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Did I just pick that up right on the Politics Scotland show just now. The lassie giving the summary said that level 4 is being beefed up with consideration given to passing laws to keep us in our homes?

 

Surely no?

You cover Firhill Gov and I'll man Oxgangs

 

[redjambo]

10 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

When were only allowed to go to the supermarket or for one hours exercise in lockdown 1, was that law or guidelines? I can never remember. 

 

Guidelaws..

[Brighton Jambo]

As others have said the media have a huge amount to answer for in exacerbating fear in the population.

 

For example the headline right now on Sky news is that Hospital levels are back to what they were in April.  But they deliberately don’t give any context.  April is not a traditionally busy month for the NHS but December is usually one of the worst so really not comparing like with like.  The just want the dramatic headline though.  
 

I think when all this is over they will get a real backlash.  

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Surely this will galvanise people into some form of collective action. If not we are doomed

 

[Francis Albert]

1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Poor old Krankie. Wanted to be seen like the New Zealand PM. But is as inept as everyone else 

I remember reading some guff in the early days (it must have been in The Guardian) which suggested Nicola's and the New Zealand PM's success in combatting the virus showed that women were more suited to that sort of task. 

 

A bit before such a suggestion became "transphobic".

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

As others have said the media have a huge amount to answer for in exacerbating fear in the population.

 

For example the headline right now on Sky news is that Hospital levels are back to what they were in April.  But they deliberately don’t give any context.  April is not a traditionally busy month for the NHS but December is usually one of the worst so really not comparing like with like.  The just want the dramatic headline though.  
 

I think when all this is over they will get a real backlash.  

 

When they're talking about hospital levels being back to what they were in April they're talking about folk in hospital with Covid. No context required.