JamboAl Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, ramrod said: So Iooking at the last few posts Austin SD Robbo Manager Levein floating around doing who knows what ? Yep def not doing it on the cheap , best candidates for the job and all that malarkey or alternatively. HOLY ****........! Who do you think we should appoint for each post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Shrekeo said: Skybet rules are that it includes a ‘caretaker’ taking 10 games or more so if we didn’t appoint someone in a month, the bookies would pay out even if we still appointed someone else. Thanks for that. That explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Smith's right boot said: Most fans will understand that the bookies list isn't our short list. Yip. Can’t remember but was Levein on a bookies list last time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Boab said: Yip. Can’t remember but was Levein on a bookies list last time ? Yes top. Daily Record have been right first time with him and Cathro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Ann better be circling the wagons if Austin and his band of brothers get this gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2607 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: Most fans will understand that the bookies list isn't our short list. Thank **** for that. I'd honestly be so disappointed if MacPhee or Robbo got it. Would actually be disappointed with most of that list, and think we can do much much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Stanley_ said: Hearts legend and I wish him all the best at ICT but definitely not the right choice. 1 hour ago, allyby said: My thoughts as well, would hate to see him fail like Levein and get barracked on here, he a Legend, keep it that way! Unlike Levein, Robbo would know when the gig was up and do the honourable thing and resign, imo. Agree that it would be heart breaking to see him pilloried by the fans though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Voiceofreasonfortheseason said: Does the manager come before the Sporting Director? Been discussing this all day at work, surely we need to the SD/DOF in place first? Maybe I am being stupid, don't know anymore. A good question. The Manager and Sporting Director will have to be able to get on with each other so it would be better in my opinion if the manager was employed first then involved with appointing the Sporting Director. In my opinion the SD should not be superior to the manager as I believe the manager should be only accountable to the Hearts Board/CEO. The SD’s aim should be the efficient function of the Scouting, Academy, Player Contract, Youth Development ect. leaving the Manager to oversee the management of all first team functions like Team Selection, Coaching, Training, Fitness including physio’s, medical ect. Selecting player targets and player sales or release. Ann Budge will probably go for a Sporting Director first and advise her on appointing a new manager which I believe is the wrong way round but hey what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Robbo. He actually did pretty well the last time he took over from Levein. Has he ever worked with as good a squad of players as we have? How would he set us up? He was manager in the Andy Davies game wasn’t he - we played 4-3-3 I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) If we are not going to push the boundaries with a Stendel or proven manager who has worked down south I’d genuinely rather have Robbo or Neilson back. I’d prefer to push the boundaries - very much so - but if we are sticking to the narrow SPL standard manager approach then Robbo or Neilson would be my choice. Edited November 13, 2019 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Robbo. He actually did pretty well the last time he took over from Levein. Has he ever worked with as good a squad of players as we have? How would he set us up? He was manager in the Andy Davies game wasn’t he - we played 4-3-3 I think Take away the fact it's Robbo, would you even consider anyone with the same managerial record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: If we are not going to push the boundaries with a Stendel or proven manager who has worked down south I’d genuinely rather have Robbo or Neilson back. I’d prefer to push the boundaries - very much so - but if we are sticking to the narrow SPL standard manager approach then Robbo or Neilson would be my choice. He did well considering it was the start of multiple Lithuanians being forced into the squad although no doubt the likes of Miko and Chesney were gems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Take away the fact it's Robbo, would you even consider anyone with the same managerial record If we are only looking at the Scottish market, yes. I really hope we are not just looking at the Scottish market though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, mitch41 said: A good question. The Manager and Sporting Director will have to be able to get on with each other so it would be better in my opinion if the manager was employed first then involved with appointing the Sporting Director. In my opinion the SD should not be superior to the manager as I believe the manager should be only accountable to the Hearts Board/CEO. The SD’s aim should be the efficient function of the Scouting, Academy, Player Contract, Youth Development ect. leaving the Manager to oversee the management of all first team functions like Team Selection, Coaching, Training, Fitness including physio’s, medical ect. Selecting player targets and player sales or release. Ann Budge will probably go for a Sporting Director first and advise her on appointing a new manager which I believe is the wrong way round but hey what do I know. Needs to be the Sporting Director first, the SD is likely to outlast a number of managers as the first team results don't have a direct bearing on that role. Having a manager pick the SD would mean that you would need to replace both each time results of the first team were unsatisfactory resulting in a lack of continuity throughout the whole club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, To Be Frank said: He did well considering it was the start of multiple Lithuanians being forced into the squad although no doubt the likes of Miko and Chesney were gems. He did blend them into a good front 3 quickly with Lee Miller. Lee Miller also went on a great goal scoring run. Miko was young so it wasn’t a banker that throwing them into the team would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Robbo. He actually did pretty well the last time he took over from Levein. Has he ever worked with as good a squad of players as we have? How would he set us up? He was manager in the Andy Davies game wasn’t he - we played 4-3-3 I think I think your looking at his time in charge with rose tinted glasses, he was alright as manager but I would not say he did really well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ribble said: Needs to be the Sporting Director first, the SD is likely to outlast a number of managers as the first team results don't have a direct bearing on that role. Having a manager pick the SD would mean that you would need to replace both each time results of the first team were unsatisfactory resulting in a lack of continuity throughout the whole club. I never said a manager would pick the SD I said a manager would be involved in the process. We all know Ann Budge will have the final decision taking advice from football people in the know. I believe my way is the best way because the new manager is more important that any Sporting Director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, jamboinglasgow said: I think your looking at his time in charge with rose tinted glasses, he was alright as manager but I would not say he did really well given the background and circumstances at the time let’s not forget anyway as I said it’s not my preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Robbo would do a job. He has done a great job at Caley imo and has had them punching well above their weight. Like others have said though, the man is a God amongst men here and inevitably there would be a time when things get a bit stale or we start going down hill and we’d have to sack him. Imo Robbo would resign if things went south anyway because he’s a class act, but imagine Robbo had to suffer the abuse Levein got? I couldn’t cope with that. On that basis alone I wouldn’t have him as manager unless it was until the end of the season or something. His legacy here should remain intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: Yes,a few times.Have relatives down near Barnsley. How did they play, got to confess, never seen them, but lots of good publicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Skybet just before 4pm Austin MacPhee 11/10 John Robertson 5/1 Neil Warnock 5/1 Steve Robinson 6/1 David Moyes 10/1 Dougie Freedman 10/1 Jack Ross 10/1 Mark Hughes 12/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Austin Macphee EVS Stephen Robinson 9/2 Neil Warnock 6/1 John Robertson 6/1 Felix Magath 9/1 Jack Ross 10/1 David Moyes 14/1 Billy McKinlay 14/1 Brian McClair 16/1 Andy Kirk 20/1 Neil McCann 20/1 Nigel Adkins 20/1 Tommy Wright 25/1 Roy Keane 25/1 Paul Hartley 25/1 Mark Hughes 33/1 Steven Pressley 33/1 Robbie Neilson 33/1 Gary Locke 40/1 Nathan Jones 40/1 Jon Daly 40/1 Derek McInnes 50/1 Darren Fletcher 50/1 Stevie Crawford 50/1 Aitor Karanka 60/1 Steven Naismith 66/1 PP full list, no alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, rudi must stay said: Yes top. Daily Record have been right first time with him and Cathro Really ? Shit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: If we are not going to push the boundaries with a Stendel or proven manager who has worked down south I’d genuinely rather have Robbo or Neilson back. I’d prefer to push the boundaries - very much so - but if we are sticking to the narrow SPL standard manager approach then Robbo or Neilson would be my choice. Some will be staggered, but I would take MacPhee and Neilson. Simple reason, I think its a blend that would work, as a team, perhaps Naismith may think differently as to its merits. However I'd be the first to admit, that could be underselling us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Shoreditch Heart Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 A story in today's Evening Standard : https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-sporting-director-dougie-freedman-interested-replacing-craig-levein-hearts-boss-a4285926.html The last time we got a mention in the paper was when Burley got sacked if I remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Some will be staggered, but I would take MacPhee and Neilson. Simple reason, I think its a blend that would work, as a team, perhaps Naismith may think differently as to its merits. However I'd be the first to admit, that could be underselling us. as I say it’s not what I want ideally but if we are being narrow and looking things from a Scottish perspective I think the best young manager in Scotland is Neilson and I think a good attack minded manager is Robbo. i am not that interested in Robinson or Ross and I just don’t see any other standouts on the Scottish market. Edited November 13, 2019 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, A Shoreditch Heart said: A story in today's Evening Standard : https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-sporting-director-dougie-freedman-interested-replacing-craig-levein-hearts-boss-a4285926.html The last time we got a mention in the paper was when Burley got sacked if I remember... Written by Jack Rosser, not very complementary Edited November 13, 2019 by Sir Gio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ribble said: Needs to be the Sporting Director first, the SD is likely to outlast a number of managers as the first team results don't have a direct bearing on that role. Having a manager pick the SD would mean that you would need to replace both each time results of the first team were unsatisfactory resulting in a lack of continuity throughout the whole club. Exactly, pretty obvious and Mrs Budge has already said that would be her preferred order of hiring. Makes much more sense than doing it the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Also heard earlier on, and it’s possibly nonsense, Paul Scholes has been contacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: He did well considering it was the start of multiple Lithuanians being forced into the squad although no doubt the likes of Miko and Chesney were gems. Gems 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Robbo would be really enthusiastic 🙈so would I do I get the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Siphiwe Tshabalala said: Also heard earlier on, and it’s possibly nonsense, Paul Scholes has been contacted. Would prefer an experienced guy but Gerard has done well and scholes certainly speaks well he could be worth a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: How did they play, got to confess, never seen them, but lots of good publicity His team played on the front foot,defending from the front.Plays the pressing game and quick attacking. Gagenpressing as the germans call it.plus he had a great repor with the fans,even met them in local pub....the day after he was fired to say goodbye. Edited November 13, 2019 by Agentjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, NB GIN said: Would prefer an experienced guy but Gerard has done well and scholes certainly speaks well he could be worth a shot This is probably nonsense BUT, just the kind of candidate we SHOULD be looking at. Could you imagine the players? He speaks and they would listen. Wouldn't listen to half the guff on that odds list and as I said previously, would not give 2 shites about the 2 shites in Glasgow either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: Who do you think we should appoint for each post? Difficult to say as I don't know what the budget is for each job or what each individual applicates expecting to be paid . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, reaths17 said: Austin Macphee EVS Stephen Robinson 9/2 Neil Warnock 6/1 John Robertson 6/1 Felix Magath 9/1 Jack Ross 10/1 David Moyes 14/1 Billy McKinlay 14/1 Brian McClair 16/1 Andy Kirk 20/1 Neil McCann 20/1 Nigel Adkins 20/1 Tommy Wright 25/1 Roy Keane 25/1 Paul Hartley 25/1 Mark Hughes 33/1 Steven Pressley 33/1 Robbie Neilson 33/1 Gary Locke 40/1 Nathan Jones 40/1 Jon Daly 40/1 Derek McInnes 50/1 Darren Fletcher 50/1 Stevie Crawford 50/1 Aitor Karanka 60/1 Steven Naismith 66/1 PP full list, no alexander Or Freedman? Get a fiver on MH @33/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: His team played on the front foot,defending from the front.Plays the pressing game and quick attacking. Gagenpressing as the germans call it.plus he had a great repor with the fans,even met them in local pub....the day after he was fired to say goodbye. What did you make of Oakwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: What did you make of Oakwood? Oakwell 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, pointon said: Ann better be circling the wagons if Austin and his band of brothers get this gig What are you planning to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Siphiwe Tshabalala said: Also heard earlier on, and it’s possibly nonsense, Paul Scholes has been contacted. Asked for and put a fiver on him early on. Should have held back and let the odds increase, as he is now 100/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, NB GIN said: Gems 😂😂😂😂 Both would walk into the starting 11 just now incidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Siphiwe Tshabalala said: Also heard earlier on, and it’s possibly nonsense, Paul Scholes has been contacted. Short term deal while Whelan and Haring are injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 If the criteria is a high profile person with a record of success, it has to be Magath. No one else comes close among those listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: If the criteria is a high profile person with a record of success, it has to be Magath. No one else comes close among those listed. Guess it depends whether the criteria is recent success. Magath’s done feck all for 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Coburg Hearts said: What are you planning to do? If it were me I’d starve them out rather than attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, Coburg Hearts said: What are you planning to do? I would assume it will involve bows and arrows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Exactly, pretty obvious and Mrs Budge has already said that would be her preferred order of hiring. Makes much more sense than doing it the other way. Priorities that is what Ann Budge needs to aim for first. A manager, the managers choice of staff, a Sporting Director that supports the managers aims such as scouting targets, kids and youth depts, academy functions, players contracts ect. So really we’re talking about a Sporting Director that carries out the way forward that supports the managers short, middle and long term’s aims to make our first team the best it can be. All this while the CEO guides the club off the pitch to making fortunes that can be ploughed into the team and the clubs infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdoug79 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Scholes or Stendel for me all day long and would be completely open to AM as SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mdoug79 said: Scholes or Stendel for me all day long and would be completely open to AM as SD I think stendel is the kind of guy that would really hit it off with McPhee and sound like they both want to play expansive modern football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdoug79 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Agentjambo said: I think stendel is the kind of guy that would really hit it off with McPhee and sound like they both want to play expansive modern football. I want a modern positive youngish manager with no fear of the ugly sisters. If these 2 are interested let’s stretch the budget as these guys would be worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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