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5 minutes ago, LeylandJambo said:

I wonder if Graham Alexander as manager and McPhee as SD would work?

Don't see why not. Think McPhee would be good as sports director. 

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Where would folk rate the appointment of Alessio at Killie? Better than the likes of Ross, Freedman, etc. Whether or not he is, it was right out of the blue as far as the press and bookies were concerned. 

 

Scottish football is on a little bit of an up tick just now with the uglies' performances on Europe, so I reckon there will be some decent candidates who've simply not even been on our radar. 

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8 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said:

I’ve read so many names being mentioned all of who are unimpressive I’m beginning to think ...... perhaps we already have the correct person on the books! Certainly in terms of knowledge, experience and pragmatism he looks head and shoulders above many!

 

Perhaps with a defined narrow role of first team manager the correct fit might be Craig Levein?! 

 

Levein as manager and MacPhee as sporting director.  All falling into place.  Maybe Daly and Foxy could be first team coaches?  

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8 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

McPhee and his contact book already has some of the biggest European teams bringing their youth teams to Oriam next year for a tournament, building relationships with these clubs, Man City the N Irish lads.

 

I cant see why people would say he brings nothing to the club.

 

He has international, club and FIFA connections.

 

If he was German and involved in their set up with those connections we’d be frothing at the gash for him to be involved at the club if he declared an interest.

 

This is where I am at tbh...

 

Im sitting on the fence re whether he is the man as head coach or similar or SD but its fair to say IMHO we probably dont really know or appreciate what he could continue to bring to the club with more clout or influence, in whatever capacity that is...

 

I would defo keep him if he wants to stay and think we would be losing an asset if he is allowed to go...

 

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Let’s not bother with gathering cv’s and interviewing folk for weeks on end it’s all there right under our noses 

sporting director McPhee

joint managers Daly/Fox

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10 hours ago, Coburg Hearts said:

Do you really think CL would let anyone run the show? Not being a smart arse. 🙂


Tbh probably not but after a few bad results he might have.

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It’s almost as though some posters are positioning themselves to retain their ‘anti’ view, whoever gets the jobs.

 

If we appoint a brand new manager and he wins his first game by scoring 5 goals, folk will be raving about him.

 

Not necessarily saying I want McPhee as manager, but I’d be confident with him as SD.

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48 minutes ago, pointon said:

Let’s not bother with gathering cv’s and interviewing folk for weeks on end it’s all there right under our noses 

sporting director McPhee

joint managers Daly/Fox


jesus **** 😂😂😂

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33 minutes ago, Haken said:

It’s almost as though some posters are positioning themselves to retain their ‘anti’ view, whoever gets the jobs.


Absolutely spot on. Probably the same bunch who wouldn’t be back as long as Mercer, Robinson, Romanov were in charge or the grass is green. 

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31 minutes ago, Haken said:

It’s almost as though some posters are positioning themselves to retain their ‘anti’ view, whoever gets the jobs.

 

If we appoint a brand new manager and he wins his first game by scoring 5 goals, folk will be raving about him.

 

Not necessarily saying I want McPhee as manager, but I’d be confident with him as SD.

McPhee's first game was a pathetic capitulation in a semi final. All forgotten now it seems.

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10 minutes ago, Flimsy said:

McPhee's first game was a pathetic capitulation in a semi final. All forgotten now it seems.

Spot on bud, there’s still many though that will suggest it was free hit as they call it nowadays or as I would call it loser mentality 

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19 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said:

Spot on bud, there’s still many though that will suggest it was free hit as they call it nowadays or as I would call it loser mentality 

Well said CJ.

A "free hit" is a meaningless end of season game with nothing at stake, where you can take a few risks that you might not in an important game.

A semi final, regardless of opposition, should be approached (and played) as if their lives depended on it.

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Ffs folk greeting about that semi...get real. IF he gets it lets judge him on his tenure in charge eh. Some folk are just miserable ****s about everything in life, never happy.

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11 hours ago, luckydug said:

No point in trying to be logical.

A lot of people just want a clear out of coaches associated with Craig Levein.

It's called throwing the baby out with the bathwater. 

I have no idea if Austin McPhee is the best candidate for either job but if he wasn't already at Tynecastle he would be working at Hampden doing a similar job to our SD position.

All these names that people keep mentioning no one can say that any of them are guaranteed to be a success.

It's just bitching and negativity for the sake of it with some people.

 

 

This is frustrating me. A lot of people simply want to clear everything to do with previous failures, with no real way of knowing how much or how little these people had to do with those failures.

 

The support were convinced we had to clear out Levein because he was entirely to blame for our short comings, now we've decided his coaches were the problem. Our medical staff aren't doing their jobs. What about our scouts that signed crap players, the youth development people, the kit man?

 

If McPhee and Fox and Daly were the problem, why did we get rid of Levein.

 

We have no way of knowing  the part they played in our poor performance and there is every chance they are perfectly good staff, who add something to the club and couldn't deliver under Levein.

 

I'm not saying they are the people for the job, maybe we'll bring in a new manager and let him clear out the coaching team. But let's stop demanding a wholesale clear out when the people we need might be at the club and could add something to any new set up under a fresh manager.

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2 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said:

Ffs folk greeting about that semi...get real. IF he gets it lets judge him on his tenure in charge eh. Some folk are just miserable ****s about everything in life, never happy.


Or maybe they think we could do better than Austin for manager?

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45 minutes ago, Flimsy said:

McPhee's first game was a pathetic capitulation in a semi final. All forgotten now it seems.


Incorrect, that was not his first game.

 

34 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said:

Spot on bud, there’s still many though that will suggest it was free hit as they call it nowadays or as I would call it loser mentality 

 

Perhaps some folk have the objectively to look at the two sides and understand why we lost?
 

Rangers: fully fit, flying in the league and holding their own in a very tough Europa League group; including the likes of Porto & Feyenoord.

 

Hearts: missing half our best players and struggling towards the foot of the Scottish Premiership. 
 

I for one, was astounded that we lost ...

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6 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:


Incorrect, that was not his first game.

 

 

Perhaps some folk have the objectively to look at the two sides and understand why we lost?
 

Rangers: fully fit, flying in the league and holding their own in a very tough Europa League group; including the likes of Porto & Feyenoord.

 

Hearts: missing half our best players and struggling towards the foot of the Scottish Premiership. 
 

I for one, was astounded that we lost ...

Plus he had what,2 full days to prepare a half fit squad 

 

The main criticism of Levein was he was stubborn, egotistical and wouldn't listen to anyone, yet somehow MacPhee is to blame for the teams failings.

I think we have to look at the fact that people FAR more qualified than any of us rate him very highly including the Northern Irish FA, FIFA and some top players. 

 

I for one,think that he is the only member of the backroom team worth keeping,he could be the ideal man for sporting director but we need to get the manager appointment spot on this time 

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27 minutes ago, pobster22 said:

The semi final was not a free hit. McPhee has been lucky to get St Liedown at home and the return of Naismith. 


This 

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2 hours ago, pointon said:

Let’s not bother with gathering cv’s and interviewing folk for weeks on end it’s all there right under our noses 

sporting director McPhee

joint managers Daly/Fox

:jj:

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Jambosteve1902

Sorry but anyone who thinks the Semi Final was Austins XI needs a good shake it was a pre-determined lineup already worked on. No coincidence once hes in charge hickeys back at left back dikamonas in and its a different set up. The amount of people who just want to bombard abuse at folk on here is astronomical. He's not the right man in my eyes for the job, however to suggest that was his line up or anything different to what would have happened regardless of the lineup we chose that day with what we had at our disposal and then losing whelan after 20 mins is just laughable we were never going to get a result . 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jambosteve1902 said:

Sorry but anyone who thinks the Semi Final was Austins XI needs a good shake it was a pre-determined lineup already worked on. No coincidence once hes in charge hickeys back at left back dikamonas in and its a different set up. The amount of people who just want to bombard abuse at folk on here is astronomical. He's not the right man in my eyes for the job, however to suggest that was his line up or anything different to what would have happened regardless of the lineup we chose that day with what we had at our disposal and then losing whelan after 20 mins is just laughable we were never going to get a result . 

 

 

Pretty much my thinking on it.  I don't believe they only started working on the game plan a couple of days before the game.  But hey, it allows people to continue with the long running narrative of failure, Levein, boot room, etc.

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1 hour ago, GinRummy said:


Or maybe they think we could do better than Austin for manager?

How do they know until someones had the job? Every appointment is a risk, that's football.

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Skybet 10am

 

Austin MacPhee
1/1
Neil Warnock
4/1
Steve Robinson
6/1
Jack Ross
8/1
John Robertson
7/1
David Moyes
10/1
Nigel Adkins
12/1
Felix Magath
16/1
Roy Keane
14/1
Andy Kirk
16/1
Daniel Stendel
16/1
Mark Hughes
16/1
Shelley Kerr
16/1
Steve Ferguson
18/1
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1 hour ago, davie1980 said:

This is frustrating me. A lot of people simply want to clear everything to do with previous failures, with no real way of knowing how much or how little these people had to do with those failures.

 

Yip

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So is Austin the man on the back of beating St Mirren at home or is it because he is really a tactical genius , motivator and recruitment specialist and it's just that Levein and Cathro wee masking the real talent of the guy these past 3  years. 

He seems to. be the only one coming out with any sort of Kudos from the debacle of the last 3 years . 

The worry is  he'll get zero time from a good section of the support. A couple of defeats early on and the divisions will start to appear pretty quickly . 

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If MacPhee started with a decent line up in the semi and had chosen different tactics, he would have put himself in with a better chance however he started the game with a line up as confusing as levein would pick and that cost us. There’s no shame losing to rangers in the semi with the difference in budgets but we were fighting a losing battle with the starting 11. 

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It'll be Robinson and MacPhee or Ross and MacPhee.

 

Not my preference. I'd prefer Adkins if he was interested. If not I'm happy with Robinson.

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27 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said:

 

How do they know until someones had the job? Every appointment is a risk, that's football.


Couldn’t agree more. It’s a punt no matter who we get. I’m not entirely convinced by any candidate. Partly through lack of knowledge on my part.

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15 minutes ago, MarkDevriesScores4 said:

If MacPhee started with a decent line up in the semi and had chosen different tactics, he would have put himself in with a better chance however he started the game with a line up as confusing as levein would pick and that cost us. There’s no shame losing to rangers in the semi with the difference in budgets but we were fighting a losing battle with the starting 11. 

Macphee did not pick the team for the semi final. 

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15 minutes ago, PaulHartley10 said:

It'll be Robinson and MacPhee or Ross and MacPhee.

 

Not my preference. I'd prefer Adkins if he was interested. If not I'm happy with Robinson.


would be happy with either of these appointments as both know the Scottish game. Worried Adkins would be another heckingbottom 

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7 minutes ago, PapaShango said:

Who the heck is betting on Shelley Kerr?? 

 

Feck knows.

 

She was a tactical bombscare at the World Cup and then drunkenly had a go at the players afterwards :lol:

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18 minutes ago, Homme said:

 

Feck knows.

 

She was a tactical bombscare at the World Cup and then drunkenly had a go at the players afterwards :lol:

 

Probably a bit over qualified then 

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8 minutes ago, Anoeta said:

Robinson for the Northern Ireland job. Will cost them £120,000 in compensation to Motherwell. Pressley left Carlisle now too.

Beat me too it, when you say Pressley left did you mean they SACKED the useless ***** 🐍😜

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

Beat me too it, when you say Pressley left did you mean they SACKED the useless ***** 🐍😜

He’s hssstory.

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55 minutes ago, Jambosteve1902 said:

Macphee did not pick the team for the semi final. 

He made it pretty clear in his pre match interview that he did pick the team. He gave his reasons for not starting Uche. He gave a breakdown of his thinking on the team selection. At no point did he indicate it wasn't his team

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3 hours ago, Haken said:

It’s almost as though some posters are positioning themselves to retain their ‘anti’ view, whoever gets the jobs.

 

Spot on.

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6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Beat me too it, when you say Pressley left did you mean they SACKED the useless ***** 🐍😜

Yours is the more accurate description!! I think Carlisle were going alright until he rolled into town. 

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Jambosteve1902
5 minutes ago, MrBones said:

He made it pretty clear in his pre match interview that he did pick the team. He gave his reasons for not starting Uche. He gave a breakdown of his thinking on the team selection. At no point did he indicate it wasn't his team

as if he's going to come out and go Nope was craigs team not my fault. come on dude lol. We'll see i guarantee going forward, Hickey will never be right back again, austin doesn't rate him there and thinks it could ruin him as a high prospect. Only Levein seemed to think he was a super right back. 

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1 hour ago, MarkDevriesScores4 said:

If MacPhee started with a decent line up in the semi and had chosen different tactics, he would have put himself in with a better chance however he started the game with a line up as confusing as levein would pick and that cost us. There’s no shame losing to rangers in the semi with the difference in budgets but we were fighting a losing battle with the starting 11. 

What if he had started Naismith, Walker and Uche and the 3 of them are burst balls by the end of the 1st half and we are 1 down? He'd get ripped on here for taking risks and giving us no chance in the second half. We were doing fine, the tactics were as clear as day and we were 1 minute from 0-0 at half time, which with a full strength team we would have taken. 2 brain farts later from senior players and we are 2 down. 

 

I'm.not advocating him for the job, but judging on the Rangers game then saying the St Mirren counts as nothing is nothing but agenda driven nonsense. 

 

I'd like Standel for manager 👍 

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