Statement from Budge

[It should have been ten]

2 minutes ago, Jamboelite said:

You are in a seated section, the club has never said its for standing, its not been agreed to be standing and the fact there is a ****ing seat there suggests its not for standing.

 

Whether you like it or not these are the facts.

 

[Koolkeith]

3 hours ago, RussAsia said:

Why do we need to have a family friendly stadium.. we have always had family areas.. i accept that.. why does the rest of the stadium now need to sit on their hands..

 

Football whether she likes it or not was a sport for the working man.. times are changing but it seems everything needs to be sanitised so as not to offend the easily offended..

There’s no real family section either. I’ve been in the Gorgie from the start as I was at school at the time. I’m now in my 30s. There’s loads of folk in the same situation. I see just as many kids if not more in other stands. 

[McCrae]

I agree fully with the sentiment of the statement.... but why do we need more stewards to escort people to their seats? If the stewards cannot take action to remove offenders this is a bit pointless.  

Surely the short term solution is to have more Police in the ground and have them take action.

[Rudy T]

Interesting how many posters are having a go at the club. It’s not the clubs fault these measures are being put in place it’s the fault entirely of the clowns who threw coins and pyrotechnics, sung sectarian songs and waved union flags and that hideous Lee Rigby flag.

 

Have a go at those people, their actions have left the club in a right shit state, the media has went to town on us and it’s a case of you reap what you sow.

 

Once they’ve left Tynecastle rules will be relaxed on standing again, until that point you’ll just have to suck it up and remember exactly who caused it.

[Riccarton3]

1 minute ago, Rudy T said:

Interesting how many posters are having a go at the club. It’s not the clubs fault these measures are being put in place it’s the fault entirely of the clowns who threw coins and pyrotechnics, sung sectarian songs and waved union flags and that hideous Lee Rigby flag.

 

Have a go at those people, their actions have left the club in a right shit state, the media has went to town on us and it’s a case of you reap what you sow.

 

Once they’ve left Tynecastle rules will be relaxed on standing again, until that point you’ll just have to suck it up and remember exactly who caused it.

once again, cutting through the crap

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Interesting how many posters are having a go at the club. It’s not the clubs fault these measures are being put in place it’s the fault entirely of the clowns who threw coins and pyrotechnics, sung sectarian songs and waved union flags and that hideous Lee Rigby flag.

 

Have a go at those people, their actions have left the club in a right shit state, the media has went to town on us and it’s a case of you reap what you sow.

 

Once they’ve left Tynecastle rules will be relaxed on standing again, until that point you’ll just have to suck it up and remember exactly who caused it.

 

In a nutshell.

[Jambo 4 Ever]

Budge is 100% correct and if anyone has any problem with it then they are the ones with an issue 

[Boab]

5 minutes ago, Oliver Twist said:

 

That's because you set your own standards in life. We had standards at Tynecastle, those standards have been pissed all over and the club are sick of it. Is it really that difficult to understand without bringing away supporters into the debate.

 

How can you not bring away fans into it when, quite likely, they will piss over every standard set by our club ?

It makes a mockery of stadium rules if they are only enforced in three quarters of it !

You would need to be a nutcracker to be against everything in that statement but to, then, say we can't do anything about away fans' behaviour is cuckoo !

And don't say it's up to the old bill and the stewards because it's been going on for years and it's still going on.

[KingRudi_2012]

1 minute ago, Rudy T said:

Interesting how many posters are having a go at the club. It’s not the clubs fault these measures are being put in place it’s the fault entirely of the clowns who threw coins and pyrotechnics, sung sectarian songs and waved union flags and that hideous Lee Rigby flag.

 

Have a go at those people, their actions have left the club in a right shit state, the media has went to town on us and it’s a case of you reap what you sow.

 

Once they’ve left Tynecastle rules will be relaxed on standing again, until that point you’ll just have to suck it up and remember exactly who caused it.

The media who went to town in their xenophobic/racist abuse throughout the Vlad years and don't report the sectarianism of OF fans on a weekly basis.

 

The job of the Hearts board is to stand up for Hearts fans. Not throw us under a bus!!

 

 

[andrewjambo]

12 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

The club has to take the stance that fans are unable to stand at Tynecastle officially. I get that. Every club in the country is the same due to H & S rules. However, threatening to ban fans for it is despicable. Name me the last club that threatened to ban fans for standing in an all seater stadium? Why Hearts fans are being treated in this way is what I do not get and I can only put it down to over zealousness from Budge.

 

Norwich City threatened to ban fans for standing as recently as December 2017

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-norfolk-42265978

Edited November 9, 2018 by andrewjambo

[Nookie Bear]

1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said:

Budge is 100% correct and if anyone has any problem with it then they are the ones with an issue 

 

Says the guy planning on illegally filming supporters. 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

4 hours ago, kila said:

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-1-2-3-4

 

Other than issuing a joint statement with Leeann Dempster, CEO of Hibernian FC, condemning the incidents that occurred at the recent derby match, I have until now largely kept my counsel.  I did so because Police Scotland were following up on a number of reported acts of violence and also because of the media frenzy that ensued.  

Much has been said about whether these incidents reflect a problem within football culture or whether they are indicative of a wider societal problem.  Similarly, questions have been raised regarding whether this is a problem specifically for Scottish football or whether it is a wider football issue.  These points will no doubt continue to be debated for some time but, in the meantime, we must do everything possible at Club level to avoid any reoccurrence of such unacceptable behaviour at Tynecastle Park. The Club and a significant proportion of its supporters and sponsors are actively engaged in activities aimed at tackling tough issues in our community in the firm belief that football is part of the solution to address society’s problems rather than a root cause. It is important that the mindless actions of a few should not undermine this fantastic work.

Before outlining actions being taken, I would stress once again, that this is a problem created by a tiny minority of supporters and we are seeking the support of the large majority of our fan base who are as appalled as we are with recent incidents, to help us stamp out this behaviour.  I would remind all supporters that you can text us confidentially to report incidents which you deem unacceptable on 07467 918874.

This communication is aimed at making it clear to all that I plan to follow up on the statement I made on BBC5Live the morning following the derby; namely, that anyone found guilty of carrying out any acts of violence at the match will face an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  While some arrests have already been made, investigations are still ongoing and bans will follow.

Please find below a summary of our position regarding unacceptable conduct.

 

A. Indefinite Bans

Anyone found guilty by law, identified by CCTV or unequivocally identified by any other means or person of any of the following acts, will receive an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  The length of bans will be commensurate with the seriousness of the offence and could mean a lifetime ban.

- In any way, causing damage to the physical infrastructure of the stadium.  Similarly, it should be noted that any Hearts fan convicted of causing physical damage to any other football stadium, will also be banned from Tynecastle Park (and from purchasing tickets for away fixtures) for bringing the good name of Hearts and of Scottish Football into disrepute

 

- Throwing any object within the confines of the stadium, which causes, or could cause, injury to any individual, whether or not specifically directed at any individual

 

- Throwing any object onto the pitch or elsewhere within the confines of the stadium which causes, or could cause, damage to the pitch or any part of the stadium infrastructure

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent. 

 

 

B. Pyrotechnics

The use of pyrotechnic devices at the derby was significant.  A total of 16 such devices were thrown, by both sets of fans, either onto the pitch, the track or in the direction of rival fans.  We cannot emphasise strongly enough that these devices can cause serious injury to individuals and serious damage to property.

They operate at temperatures of between 600 and 2000 degrees centigrade.  They can cause burn damage to the skin, as well as damage to property from smoke dyes and high temperatures, and, of course, from secondary fires.  In addition, the inhalation of particles generated by these devices, whilst a less visible threat, are capable of triggering attacks from various acute and chronic illnesses, such as asthma and heart conditions.

Quite simply, these are life endangering objects.  As such, any supporter involved in attempting to bring them into the Stadium or identified as discharging them in the Stadium, will receive a lifetime ban.   

 

 

C. Specific Club Initiatives

1) The Club is in the process of significantly increasing its in-house matchday security staff. They will work proactively with Police Scotland and our stewarding company to stamp out incidences of unacceptable behaviour in the Stadium.

* I would remind supporters that the principal role of the stewards is to ensure safe access and egress from the stadium....and not to confront thuggish behaviour.  Our in-house staff will increase our capacity to identify those guilty of unacceptable behaviour, enabling us to more effectively address issues, either at the time if safe to do so, or retrospectively.

2) Additional ticket checks will be carried out inside the stadium to ensure supporters are seated in their allocated seats.  We ask all supporters to assist the stewards by cooperating and apologise for any inconvenience caused.

* Some supporters ...often in numbers....ignore their allocated seat numbers, making it difficult or impossible for stewards and supporters to address the situation at the time.

3) In the interests of safety, supporters are expected to remain seated during a match, with the exception of goal celebrations.  Those supporters who consistently fail to adhere to requests to remain seated may either be escorted from the stadium or, if this is not possible for safety reasons, will be identified and contacted post-match.  We reserve the right to revoke season tickets, the right to purchase tickets and also to consider any further future sanctions.  

* When supporters refuse to sit, many of their fellow supporters are unable to see the game, unless they too stand…and some are either unable or unwilling to do so.  Others feel they have no option but to stand and this simply exacerbates the problem.

4) Additional security measures are already being focused on those areas of the stadium where problems are known to have happened.  These measures will be further strengthened.  In addition, we are withholding sales of matchday tickets in these areas for the foreseeable future to assist with identifying the troublemakers.  We have emailed all season ticket holders in these sections to advise them of our intentions and to apologise to those innocent Season Ticket holders for any inconvenience caused.

Much of what is said above is a repeat of the Unacceptable Behaviour Policies already in force within Scottish football stadia.  I repeat some of these policies here, both as a reminder and also as a clear indication that at Tynecastle Park, we will be redoubling our efforts to ensure these policies are adhered to at all times.

We will not sit back and allow the reputation we have fought so hard to rebuild, be damaged by the mindless acts of a few individuals. Hearts‘ supporters have proved their loyalty to a level well beyond most people’s imagination.  My personal objective is to help make Tynecastle Park a stadium of which we can all be proud; the most family friendly stadium in Scotland; and the most supporter friendly stadium in Scotland.  By working together, we can achieve these objectives.

 

 

 

[Italian Lambretta]

2 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Interesting how many posters are having a go at the club. It’s not the clubs fault these measures are being put in place it’s the fault entirely of the clowns who threw coins and pyrotechnics, sung sectarian songs and waved union flags and that hideous Lee Rigby flag.

 

Have a go at those people, their actions have left the club in a right shit state, the media has went to town on us and it’s a case of you reap what you sow.

 

Once they’ve left Tynecastle rules will be relaxed on standing again, until that point you’ll just have to suck it up and remember exactly who caused it.

Did sellick close down the Green brigade and shut the standing section when they hung effigies of rangers fans? A far worse crime than anything seen at Tynecastle. 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Says the guy planning on illegally filming supporters. 

I’ve helped the club out in the past with finding people throwing things and more than happy to do it again if need be 

 

ive already texted the number with a few seat numbers of some unsavoury people 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Jambo_in_Hamilton

[Nookie Bear]

2 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said:

I’ve helped the club out in the past with finding people throwing things and more than happy to do it again if need be 

 

How did you manage that? 

 

You must be some one photographer to capture the moment something is thrown. Or are you filming as well?

Or are you just pointing the finger at people you “believe” to be responsible?

 

P.S. it’s still against ground rules to film or take photos without permission. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Nookie Bear

[Rudy T]

Just now, KingRudi_2012 said:

The media who went to town in their xenophobic/racist abuse throughout the Vlad years and don't report the sectarianism of OF fans on a weekly basis.

 

The job of the Hearts board is to stand up for Hearts fans. Not throw us under a bus!!

 

 

 

Did Hearts fan throw coins pyrotechnics display flags with sectarian and political motivations, yes or no? 

 

Do you want the club to stand up for them.

[KingRudi_2012]

1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said:

I’ve helped the club out in the past with finding people throwing things and more than happy to do it again if need be 

 

ive already texted the number with a few seat numbers of some unsavoury people 

What did the fans throw and how would you define unsavoury? 

[It should have been ten]

16 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

The club has to take the stance that fans are unable to stand at Tynecastle officially. I get that. Every club in the country is the same due to H & S rules. However, threatening to ban fans for it is despicable. Name me the last club that threatened to ban fans for standing in an all seater stadium? Why Hearts fans are being treated in this way is what I do not get and I can only put it down to over zealousness from Budge.

 

Probably because rules are rules and if you and your special pals in section N are seen to be getting away with standing then others in the stadium think it’s acceptable to do the same when it’s far from it. Personally I’d much prefer to stand at games. I started going to games back in the early 80’s and the atmosphere when standing in the terraces was out of this world but times have changed and it’s out of order standing when the person behind can’t see because they choose to observe the rules and stay seated.

As people have already said some people are unable to stand for the games, mostly the older generation who have supported Hearts for many decades and now are at the age where they just aren’t able to stand now. The last thing they deserve is disrespectful wee fandans blocking their view and being met with abuse when asked to sit down. Bear in mind the reason the stadiums are all seated now which has btw has nothing to do with Ann budge. 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by It should have been ten

[Notts1874]

Gorgie Loyal are saying Ann will be forced out over this

 

 

[haveyouheard 22]

2 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said:

I’ve helped the club out in the past with finding people throwing things and more than happy to do it again if need be 

 

ive already texted the number with a few seat numbers of some unsavoury people 

Well done Hammy, merit an award for that, keep up the good work my Son, we are all so proud of you thats assuming you are telling the truth 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

Why can't people just go to the game, support the team and behave ?

[sum31uk]

Brilliant from Budge. The sectarian anti-catholic fans must be removed. I hope this is enforced! 

[Doc Rob]

I’m delighted with this statement. It’s almost exactly what I called for in the thread I started on this on Nov 3rd. I’d have expressed some of it differently (and with less measured language) but the content is spot on.

 

Thank you Ann, and I’m sorry I doubted you.

[Djm1874]

sorry ann but i am a little unhappy that standing in section n is being thrown in  amongst the coin and flare throwers, I've always stood at tynie and intend on doing so tomorrow. budge is  a fantastic owner but feel  she is going a bit OTT with this. Standing is not thuggish or bad for the clubs reputation Imo  

[Rudy T]

4 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:

Did sellick close down the Green brigade and shut the standing section when they hung effigies of rangers fans? A far worse crime than anything seen at Tynecastle. 

 

Is Ann Budge on the board at Celtic?

Edited November 9, 2018 by Rudy T

[Sir Vladimir of Romanov]

4 hours ago, kila said:

 

Why do you feel the need to bring a national flag into Tynecastle?

 

 

Where did I ever say I did? 

 

4 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

She is a good person to have in these situations no doubt. Authorities listen to her.

 

Do they? ? 

 

4 hours ago, Victorian said:

As evidenced before,   she is a bit limited in what she can say about the behaviour of visiting supports.     Any attempt to deal with that side of the issue is certain to be met with howls of criticism that Hearts are in denial regarding our own fans, etc etc.      

 

Best to just let them do what they like then. 

 

3 hours ago, magicTs said:

Again whilst I agree with the vast majority of her latest statement she has opened a can of worms in relation to how the old firm supports should be tackled. To me it’s an absolute no brainer to announce that they will be given the very minimum tickets allowed for the foreseeable future whilst these issues are tackled. She has to be consistent with her approach here regardless of that impacting a financial bottom line. Allowing them to pack 3600 into the Roseburn and behave as they choose with no consequence (given the Police won’t get involved) whilst taking the hardline approach (even if it’s the correct one) against the home support is not a good move on her part. If she’s making a stance she needs to be all in on it! 

 

Nailed it. 

[The Future's Maroon]

1 hour ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

Been at every game this season. I stand in N and will continue to do so. 

 

Thats the thing though, you won’t and if you don’t adhere to the simple rules you won’t be watching any games.

 

 

[henry]

What’s been lost in all the hysteria is that the atmosphere v hibs was as good as it’s been for a long time. Levein himself commented on that as well. I really do fear that we will lose our biggest asset if fans are having to sit and not say any nasty things to opposition players and make Tynecastle a horrible place to come and play. I want the opposition to fear coming to Tynecastle but it appears some don’t get it. 

 

 

[Jamboelite]

8 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

The media who went to town in their xenophobic/racist abuse throughout the Vlad years and don't report the sectarianism of OF fans on a weekly basis.

 

The job of the Hearts board is to stand up for Hearts fans. Not throw us under a bus!!

 

 

The job of Hearts fans is to behave in line with the clubs policy.

[Rudy T]

Just now, Djm1874 said:

sorry ann but i am a little unhappy that standing in section n is being thrown in  amongst the coin and flare throwers, I've always stood at tynie and intend on doing so tomorrow. budge is  a fantastic owner but feel  she is going a bit OTT with this. Standing is not thuggish or bad for the clubs reputation Imo  

 

Heres why she wants you to sit down

 

In a crowd standing the offenders can easily hide, they are difficult to identify on CCTV and through their seat numbers especially if no one is in the right seat.

 

If you want to stand again you will adhere to the new rules. If you want those who partake in criminal activities out of the club you’ll sit down

 

Thats the bottom line, and again why are you unhappy at the club and no expressing your dismay at those who caused this?

[The Future's Maroon]

1 minute ago, Rudy T said:

 

Heres why she wants you to sit down

 

In a crowd standing the offenders can easily hide, they are difficult to identify on CCTV and through their seat numbers especially if no one is in the right seat.

 

If you want to stand again you will adhere to the new rules. If you want those who partake in criminal activities out of the club you’ll sit down

 

Thats the bottom line, and again why are you unhappy at the club and no expressing your dismay at those who caused this?

 

???

[jockmac]

45 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said:

Let's face it, there are some horrible scum out there who attach themselves to our club, you know the type on Twitter, profile plastered with a certain flag and their Bio lauding their support for UKIP / BREXIT / TOMMY ROBINSON, re-tweeting racist pish, Northern Irish pish yada yada yada, this has to be be the prime focus of Budge to finally rid ourselves of them. They are at the root of most of the issues she talks about, particularly sectarianism and racism, and some of them aren't kids either.

Haha, you’ve made an embarrassing sweeping statement there haven’t you.

I voted for Brexit, am I horrible scum, I don’t mind UKIP, that make me Racist.

 

Calm down dear, it’s ok for people to have a different view from you, doesn’t make them wrong, doesn’t make you right.

 

 

 

[Tarland Jambo]

2 minutes ago, henry said:

What’s been lost in all the hysteria is that the atmosphere v hibs was as good as it’s been for a long time. Levein himself commented on that as well. I really do fear that we will lose our biggest asset if fans are having to sit and not say any nasty things to opposition players and make Tynecastle a horrible place to come and play. I want the opposition to fear coming to Tynecastle but it appears some don’t get it. 

 

 

Totally agree, but there's a fine line and unfortunately some people can't control themselves and give the media a chance to batter us at every given opportunity. Sad but true. 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

6 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Why can't people just go to the game, support the team and behave ?

This

 

and her point about flags is totally right too - absolutely no need at all to being union jacks along -especially at Celtic games 

[...a bit disco]

7 minutes ago, Djm1874 said:

sorry ann but i am a little unhappy that standing in section n is being thrown in  amongst the coin and flare throwers, I've always stood at tynie and intend on doing so tomorrow. budge is  a fantastic owner but feel  she is going a bit OTT with this. Standing is not thuggish or bad for the clubs reputation Imo  

 

Pyro came from N as well though.

 

Unfortunate if you're innocent, but thems the breaks.

[Jambo 4 Ever]

9 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

What did the fans throw and how would you define unsavoury? 

Abusive language that’s totally over the top ... using the c word when kids are present etc

i know anne will agree 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

11 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

How did you manage that? 

 

You must be some one photographer to capture the moment something is thrown. Or are you filming as well?

Or are you just pointing the finger at people you “believe” to be responsible?

 

P.S. it’s still against ground rules to film or take photos without permission. 

I take Films of action on the pitch and then do a zoom around of the fans at same time 

[Seymour M Hersh]

4 hours ago, Koolkeith said:

I’m assuming the flag rule will include away fans? 

 

Maybe but they've no chance with the standing as most all of the vermin and arsecheeks seem to stand during games.

[haveyouheard 22]

Jambo in Hamilton, you stink of a wind up

[Inch Hearts]

2 hours ago, Jammy T said:

 

There has just been a set of rules issued from the club - clear, express, transparent.

 

Good luck with your claim though

 

ROFL

 

Ill sit my arse down and not claim anything but surly the counter argument would be little done about thousands of others standing up and not being banned with a lot, lot of evidence? 

[andrewjambo]

17 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:

Did sellick close down the Green brigade and shut the standing section when they hung effigies of rangers fans? A far worse crime than anything seen at Tynecastle. 

 

Celtic have closed the standing section at parkhead when they were unhappy with fans behaviour

Edited November 9, 2018 by andrewjambo

[Chuck Berry]

6 minutes ago, jockmac said:

Haha, you’ve made an embarrassing sweeping statement there haven’t you.

I voted for Brexit, am I horrible scum, I don’t mind UKIP, that make me Racist.

 

Calm down dear, it’s ok for people to have a different view from you, doesn’t make them wrong, doesn’t make you right.

 

 

 

 

Another who doesn't understand the point of the post, maybe I was too subtle.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Chuck Berry

[mscjambo]

1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said:

This

 

and her point about flags is totally right too - absolutely no need at all to being union jacks along -especially at Celtic games 

For me the political element is important too. Let's imagine you found yourself next to me at a game, you wouldn't want to hear my political rantings. We'd both be there to watch the famous. The fact that the SDL banner has appeared at times is important. Have no political messages at games.

 

You are correct about union jacks too. The context in which they are used between us and Hibs is wrong. We do it because they do etc...we are a not Glasgow bigot brothers nor would I like to see us become then.

 

Next derby I just want us to be talking about football. 

[KingRudi_2012]

11 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

 

Did Hearts fan throw coins pyrotechnics display flags with sectarian and political motivations, yes or no? 

 

Do you want the club to stand up for them.

Yes Hearts fans threw coins and chucked pyro. Hibs fans threw a similar amount. I can guarantee you Dempster and Petrie will not issue a statement threatening to ban whole sections of fans. Coins and pyro are widespread at the moment in the Scottish game. 

 

A few young laddies flying Union and Ulster flags is not sectarian or breaking any rules. I would rather they were not flown but it is simply reflective of a societal issue. Hearts have not banmed the flying of national flags so no rules broken there.

 

We sing one song that can have sectarian lyrics of which the majority do not sing the sectarian version. If you were an outsider reading JKB you would think Tynie was a sea of bigotry for 90 minutes. It is not! Name me sectarian songs we sing other than Hello Hello?

[henry]

Hearts should take steps to communicate with fans about a possible standing area. There’s clearly a desire to have standing sections so they should engage with fans and try and find a solution rather than threatening to ban people and telling them only to stand up when a goals scored. 

 

Hearts have an an obligation to look after its costumers and give them what they want. It’s not all about beating people with sticks. 

[Chuck Berry]

4 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

Yes Hearts fans threw coins and chucked pyro. Hibs fans threw a similar amount. I can guarantee you Dempster and Petrie will not issue a statement threatening to ban whole sections of fans. Coins and pyro are widespread at the moment in the Scottish game. 

 

A few young laddies flying Union and Ulster flags is not sectarian or breaking any rules. I would rather they were not flown but it is simply reflective of a societal issue. Hearts have not banmed the flying of national flags so no rules broken there.

 

We sing one song that can have sectarian lyrics of which the majority do not sing the sectarian version. If you were an outsider reading JKB you would think Tynie was a sea of bigotry for 90 minutes. It is not! Name me sectarian songs we sing other than Hello Hello?

 

...........and nobody calls us diet huns, oh no, not at all.  Open yer eyes.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Chuck Berry

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

A few young laddies flying Union and Ulster flags is not sectarian or breaking any rules. I would rather they were not flown but it is simply reflective of a societal issue. Hearts have not banmed the flying of national flags so no rules broken there.

 

Ah, but I think that may no longer be the case. According to the press release, "Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent" (my emphasis). I think that Union and Ulster flags flown at Tynie will probably be covered by that. We'll see what transpires...

[Don Dan]

So we have a problem within our support, a small minority of whom are the main culprits. The problems are well documented and now steps are being taken to isolate them, get them to behave and follow the rules that are also well documented. It’s of no surprise that the same ones are now defying the instructions which are designed to prevent the unacceptable behaviour taking place. They only care out what they want and not what the Club and no doubt the vast majority of our support. 

Its very simple follow the rules and don’t cause trouble because it damaging the club.

 

[henry]

3 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

Yes Hearts fans threw coins and chucked pyro. Hibs fans threw a similar amount. I can guarantee you Dempster and Petrie will not issue a statement threatening to ban whole sections of fans. Coins and pyro are widespread at the moment in the Scottish game. 

 

A few young laddies flying Union and Ulster flags is not sectarian or breaking any rules. I would rather they were not flown but it is simply reflective of a societal issue. Hearts have not banmed the flying of national flags so no rules broken there.

 

We sing one song that can have sectarian lyrics of which the majority do not sing the sectarian version. If you were an outsider reading JKB you would think Tynie was a sea of bigotry for 90 minutes. It is not! Name me sectarian songs we sing other than Hello Hello?

 

Thats it in a nut shell. 

 

Dempster backs hibs fans at every turn. Budge exasperated the situation. 

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7 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

Yes Hearts fans threw coins and chucked pyro. Hibs fans threw a similar amount. I can guarantee you Dempster and Petrie will not issue a statement threatening to ban whole sections of fans. Coins and pyro are widespread at the moment in the Scottish game. 

 

A few young laddies flying Union and Ulster flags is not sectarian or breaking any rules. I would rather they were not flown but it is simply reflective of a societal issue. Hearts have not banmed the flying of national flags so no rules broken there.

 

We sing one song that can have sectarian lyrics of which the majority do not sing the sectarian version. If you were an outsider reading JKB you would think Tynie was a sea of bigotry for 90 minutes. It is not! Name me sectarian songs we sing other than Hello Hello?

Bang on King, but you have to remember some are so easily offended if it suits them..Wonder how many in Sec N are kicking up ferk, was a ST there for Yrs no one seemed fussed Re