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Other than issuing a joint statement with Leeann Dempster, CEO of Hibernian FC, condemning the incidents that occurred at the recent derby match, I have until now largely kept my counsel.  I did so because Police Scotland were following up on a number of reported acts of violence and also because of the media frenzy that ensued.  


Much has been said about whether these incidents reflect a problem within football culture or whether they are indicative of a wider societal problem.  Similarly, questions have been raised regarding whether this is a problem specifically for Scottish football or whether it is a wider football issue.  These points will no doubt continue to be debated for some time but, in the meantime, we must do everything possible at Club level to avoid any reoccurrence of such unacceptable behaviour at Tynecastle Park. The Club and a significant proportion of its supporters and sponsors are actively engaged in activities aimed at tackling tough issues in our community in the firm belief that football is part of the solution to address society’s problems rather than a root cause. It is important that the mindless actions of a few should not undermine this fantastic work.


Before outlining actions being taken, I would stress once again, that this is a problem created by a tiny minority of supporters and we are seeking the support of the large majority of our fan base who are as appalled as we are with recent incidents, to help us stamp out this behaviour.  I would remind all supporters that you can text us confidentially to report incidents which you deem unacceptable on 07467 918874.


This communication is aimed at making it clear to all that I plan to follow up on the statement I made on BBC5Live the morning following the derby; namely, that anyone found guilty of carrying out any acts of violence at the match will face an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  While some arrests have already been made, investigations are still ongoing and bans will follow.


Please find below a summary of our position regarding unacceptable conduct.

 


A. Indefinite Bans


Anyone found guilty by law, identified by CCTV or unequivocally identified by any other means or person of any of the following acts, will receive an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  The length of bans will be commensurate with the seriousness of the offence and could mean a lifetime ban.


- In any way, causing damage to the physical infrastructure of the stadium.  Similarly, it should be noted that any Hearts fan convicted of causing physical damage to any other football stadium, will also be banned from Tynecastle Park (and from purchasing tickets for away fixtures) for bringing the good name of Hearts and of Scottish Football into disrepute

 

- Throwing any object within the confines of the stadium, which causes, or could cause, injury to any individual, whether or not specifically directed at any individual

 

- Throwing any object onto the pitch or elsewhere within the confines of the stadium which causes, or could cause, damage to the pitch or any part of the stadium infrastructure

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent. 

 

 

B. Pyrotechnics


The use of pyrotechnic devices at the derby was significant.  A total of 16 such devices were thrown, by both sets of fans, either onto the pitch, the track or in the direction of rival fans.  We cannot emphasise strongly enough that these devices can cause serious injury to individuals and serious damage to property.


They operate at temperatures of between 600 and 2000 degrees centigrade.  They can cause burn damage to the skin, as well as damage to property from smoke dyes and high temperatures, and, of course, from secondary fires.  In addition, the inhalation of particles generated by these devices, whilst a less visible threat, are capable of triggering attacks from various acute and chronic illnesses, such as asthma and heart conditions.


Quite simply, these are life endangering objects.  As such, any supporter involved in attempting to bring them into the Stadium or identified as discharging them in the Stadium, will receive a lifetime ban.   

 

 

C. Specific Club Initiatives


1) The Club is in the process of significantly increasing its in-house matchday security staff. They will work proactively with Police Scotland and our stewarding company to stamp out incidences of unacceptable behaviour in the Stadium.


* I would remind supporters that the principal role of the stewards is to ensure safe access and egress from the stadium....and not to confront thuggish behaviour.  Our in-house staff will increase our capacity to identify those guilty of unacceptable behaviour, enabling us to more effectively address issues, either at the time if safe to do so, or retrospectively.


2) Additional ticket checks will be carried out inside the stadium to ensure supporters are seated in their allocated seats.  We ask all supporters to assist the stewards by cooperating and apologise for any inconvenience caused.


* Some supporters ...often in numbers....ignore their allocated seat numbers, making it difficult or impossible for stewards and supporters to address the situation at the time.


3) In the interests of safety, supporters are expected to remain seated during a match, with the exception of goal celebrations.  Those supporters who consistently fail to adhere to requests to remain seated may either be escorted from the stadium or, if this is not possible for safety reasons, will be identified and contacted post-match.  We reserve the right to revoke season tickets, the right to purchase tickets and also to consider any further future sanctions.  


* When supporters refuse to sit, many of their fellow supporters are unable to see the game, unless they too stand…and some are either unable or unwilling to do so.  Others feel they have no option but to stand and this simply exacerbates the problem.


4) Additional security measures are already being focused on those areas of the stadium where problems are known to have happened.  These measures will be further strengthened.  In addition, we are withholding sales of matchday tickets in these areas for the foreseeable future to assist with identifying the troublemakers.  We have emailed all season ticket holders in these sections to advise them of our intentions and to apologise to those innocent Season Ticket holders for any inconvenience caused.


Much of what is said above is a repeat of the Unacceptable Behaviour Policies already in force within Scottish football stadia.  I repeat some of these policies here, both as a reminder and also as a clear indication that at Tynecastle Park, we will be redoubling our efforts to ensure these policies are adhered to at all times.


We will not sit back and allow the reputation we have fought so hard to rebuild, be damaged by the mindless acts of a few individuals. Hearts‘ supporters have proved their loyalty to a level well beyond most people’s imagination.  My personal objective is to help make Tynecastle Park a stadium of which we can all be proud; the most family friendly stadium in Scotland; and the most supporter friendly stadium in Scotland.  By working together, we can achieve these objectives.


 

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7 minutes ago, kila said:

 


Please find below a summary of our position regarding unacceptable conduct.

 


A. Indefinite Bans


Anyone found guilty by law, identified by CCTV or unequivocally identified by any other means or person of any of the following acts, will receive an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  The length of bans will be commensurate with the seriousness of the offence and could mean a lifetime ban.


In any way, causing damage to the physical infrastructure of the stadium.  Similarly, it should be noted that any Hearts fan convicted of causing physical damage to any other football stadium, will also be banned from Tynecastle Park (and from purchasing tickets for away fixtures) for bringing the good name of Hearts and of Scottish Football into disrepute
Throwing any object within the confines of the stadium, which causes, or could cause, injury to any individual, whether or not specifically directed at any individual
Throwing any object onto the pitch or elsewhere within the confines of the stadium which causes, or could cause, damage to the pitch or any part of the stadium infrastructure
Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, kila said:

3) In the interests of safety, supporters are expected to remain seated during a match, with the exception of goal celebrations.  Those supporters who consistently fail to adhere to requests to remain seated may either be escorted from the stadium or, if this is not possible for safety reasons, will be identified and contacted post-match.  We reserve the right to revoke season tickets, the right to purchase tickets and also to consider any further future sanctions.  


* When supporters refuse to sit, many of their fellow supporters are unable to see the game, unless they too stand…and some are either unable or unwilling to do so.  Others feel they have no option but to stand and this simply exacerbates the problem.

 

I'll be interested to see how this goes. They going to escort the entire of N Lower out the door tomorrow?

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I expect the line '- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.' to be quoted a lot in this thread.

 

The 'defense' of most of Celtics song book for the last however many years has usually always been 'aye but its no even sectayreeeun' - which has allowed them to get away with a songbook which is 90% political in its content.

 

AB's words will remain only words till such times as she takes action against the supporters who come to visit and flaunt these rules - not minorities, but in almost their entirety.

 

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Strong strong words by the supreme leader, can only imagine how annoying it must be to read all of the negative press recently when she's done so much over the last few years in regards to the clubs image

 

Doesn't matter if its only one person or 10,000, it's the club that gets dragged through the mud when idiots act like idiots, get them out and lets get behind the team on the park without resorting to scum behaviour 

 

Standing is obviously not scum behaviour, if someone gets their season ticket taken off them for that then I despair 

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I welcome this & I hope I see some folk being invited to leave on Saturday. That will show the arseholes that Ann means business.

 

Flags can GTF anyway, bairns bringing in flags & bedsheets. Give it up FFS!

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12 minutes ago, kila said:

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-1-2-3-4

 

Other than issuing a joint statement with Leeann Dempster, CEO of Hibernian FC, condemning the incidents that occurred at the recent derby match, I have until now largely kept my counsel.  I did so because Police Scotland were following up on a number of reported acts of violence and also because of the media frenzy that ensued.  


Much has been said about whether these incidents reflect a problem within football culture or whether they are indicative of a wider societal problem.  Similarly, questions have been raised regarding whether this is a problem specifically for Scottish football or whether it is a wider football issue.  These points will no doubt continue to be debated for some time but, in the meantime, we must do everything possible at Club level to avoid any reoccurrence of such unacceptable behaviour at Tynecastle Park. The Club and a significant proportion of its supporters and sponsors are actively engaged in activities aimed at tackling tough issues in our community in the firm belief that football is part of the solution to address society’s problems rather than a root cause. It is important that the mindless actions of a few should not undermine this fantastic work.


Before outlining actions being taken, I would stress once again, that this is a problem created by a tiny minority of supporters and we are seeking the support of the large majority of our fan base who are as appalled as we are with recent incidents, to help us stamp out this behaviour.  I would remind all supporters that you can text us confidentially to report incidents which you deem unacceptable on 07467 918874.


This communication is aimed at making it clear to all that I plan to follow up on the statement I made on BBC5Live the morning following the derby; namely, that anyone found guilty of carrying out any acts of violence at the match will face an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  While some arrests have already been made, investigations are still ongoing and bans will follow.


Please find below a summary of our position regarding unacceptable conduct.

 


A. Indefinite Bans


Anyone found guilty by law, identified by CCTV or unequivocally identified by any other means or person of any of the following acts, will receive an indefinite ban from Tynecastle Park.  The length of bans will be commensurate with the seriousness of the offence and could mean a lifetime ban.


- In any way, causing damage to the physical infrastructure of the stadium.  Similarly, it should be noted that any Hearts fan convicted of causing physical damage to any other football stadium, will also be banned from Tynecastle Park (and from purchasing tickets for away fixtures) for bringing the good name of Hearts and of Scottish Football into disrepute

 

- Throwing any object within the confines of the stadium, which causes, or could cause, injury to any individual, whether or not specifically directed at any individual

 

- Throwing any object onto the pitch or elsewhere within the confines of the stadium which causes, or could cause, damage to the pitch or any part of the stadium infrastructure

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent. 

 

 

B. Pyrotechnics


The use of pyrotechnic devices at the derby was significant.  A total of 16 such devices were thrown, by both sets of fans, either onto the pitch, the track or in the direction of rival fans.  We cannot emphasise strongly enough that these devices can cause serious injury to individuals and serious damage to property.


They operate at temperatures of between 600 and 2000 degrees centigrade.  They can cause burn damage to the skin, as well as damage to property from smoke dyes and high temperatures, and, of course, from secondary fires.  In addition, the inhalation of particles generated by these devices, whilst a less visible threat, are capable of triggering attacks from various acute and chronic illnesses, such as asthma and heart conditions.


Quite simply, these are life endangering objects.  As such, any supporter involved in attempting to bring them into the Stadium or identified as discharging them in the Stadium, will receive a lifetime ban.   

 

 

C. Specific Club Initiatives


1) The Club is in the process of significantly increasing its in-house matchday security staff. They will work proactively with Police Scotland and our stewarding company to stamp out incidences of unacceptable behaviour in the Stadium.


* I would remind supporters that the principal role of the stewards is to ensure safe access and egress from the stadium....and not to confront thuggish behaviour.  Our in-house staff will increase our capacity to identify those guilty of unacceptable behaviour, enabling us to more effectively address issues, either at the time if safe to do so, or retrospectively.


2) Additional ticket checks will be carried out inside the stadium to ensure supporters are seated in their allocated seats.  We ask all supporters to assist the stewards by cooperating and apologise for any inconvenience caused.


* Some supporters ...often in numbers....ignore their allocated seat numbers, making it difficult or impossible for stewards and supporters to address the situation at the time.


3) In the interests of safety, supporters are expected to remain seated during a match, with the exception of goal celebrations.  Those supporters who consistently fail to adhere to requests to remain seated may either be escorted from the stadium or, if this is not possible for safety reasons, will be identified and contacted post-match.  We reserve the right to revoke season tickets, the right to purchase tickets and also to consider any further future sanctions.  


* When supporters refuse to sit, many of their fellow supporters are unable to see the game, unless they too stand…and some are either unable or unwilling to do so.  Others feel they have no option but to stand and this simply exacerbates the problem.


4) Additional security measures are already being focused on those areas of the stadium where problems are known to have happened.  These measures will be further strengthened.  In addition, we are withholding sales of matchday tickets in these areas for the foreseeable future to assist with identifying the troublemakers.  We have emailed all season ticket holders in these sections to advise them of our intentions and to apologise to those innocent Season Ticket holders for any inconvenience caused.


Much of what is said above is a repeat of the Unacceptable Behaviour Policies already in force within Scottish football stadia.  I repeat some of these policies here, both as a reminder and also as a clear indication that at Tynecastle Park, we will be redoubling our efforts to ensure these policies are adhered to at all times.


We will not sit back and allow the reputation we have fought so hard to rebuild, be damaged by the mindless acts of a few individuals. Hearts‘ supporters have proved their loyalty to a level well beyond most people’s imagination.  My personal objective is to help make Tynecastle Park a stadium of which we can all be proud; the most family friendly stadium in Scotland; and the most supporter friendly stadium in Scotland.  By working together, we can achieve these objectives.


 

 

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2 minutes ago, Erik said:

I expect the line '- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.' to be quoted a lot in this thread.

 

The 'defense' of most of Celtics song book for the last however many years has usually always been 'aye but its no even sectayreeeun' - which has allowed them to get away with a songbook which is 90% political in its content.

 

AB's words will remain only words till such times as she takes action against the supporters who come to visit and flaunt these rules - not minorities, but in almost their entirety.

 

 

Don't hold your breath.

 

To some, it's imperative that we continue to take the Old Firms money.

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Just now, KingRudi_2012 said:

I will continue to stand at games whether Budge likes it or not ? 

No idea where you are in the stadium but you would be flying down a stairway if you stood in front of me regardless of your size. Just sit the **** down!

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2 minutes ago, BigAlim said:

Strong strong words by the supreme leader, can only imagine how annoying it must be to read all of the negative press recently when she's done so much over the last few years in regards to the clubs image

 

Doesn't matter if its only one person or 10,000, it's the club that gets dragged through the mud when idiots act like idiots, get them out and lets get behind the team on the park without resorting to scum behaviour 

Well said, sir!

And well said, Ann Budge!

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Walter Bishop

Good stuff from Miss Budge. 

 

Can`t wait for the complete ban of Celtic and Rangers fans.

 

A. Indefinite Bans

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.  

 

 

Let`s hope she is good to her word.

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4 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

I'll be interested to see how this goes. They going to escort the entire of N Lower out the door tomorrow?

Not a chance. She came out with a similar melodramatic statment before. In the off chance she bans everyone in N lower I will go back to following junior football. Sitting at games doesn't do it for me.

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Rather more categoric and comprehensive statement of intent than you would ever dream of seeing from other clubs.     I await the avalanche of praise in the media.

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There's clarity in this statement, undoubtedly.

 

I see there being a gap between the ideal as outlined in Ann's statement and the practicality of applying it in a match situation, particularly as regards standing.

 

There's probably a balance to be struck which applies common sense as well as an intolerance for violence, disturbance and sectarianism, but it'll be a mighty fine tightrope to tread.

 

Can't see anyone remotely human having issue with the sentiment behind it though.

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2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

No idea where you are in the stadium but you would be flying down a stairway if you stood in front of me regardless of your size. Just sit the **** down!

N lower. Surrounded by like minded fans who enjoy to stand at the fitba ? 

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1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said:

Not a chance. She came out with a similar melodramatic statment before. In the off chance she bans everyone in N lower I will go back to following junior football. Sitting at games doesn't do it for me.

 

More interested in standing than watching Hearts sitting down. :rofl: 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

No idea where you are in the stadium but you would be flying down a stairway if you stood in front of me regardless of your size. Just sit the **** down!

 

Hardman alert ? 

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1 minute ago, Walter Bishop said:

Good stuff from Miss Budge. 

 

Can`t wait for the complete ban of Celtic and Rangers fans.

 

A. Indefinite Bans

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.  

 

What flags does this actually cover? 

 

A national flag is fine as long as its not adorned with sectarian or political slogans? 

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4 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

No idea where you are in the stadium but you would be flying down a stairway if you stood in front of me regardless of your size. Just sit the **** down!

 

1 minute ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said:

 

Hardman alert ? 

 

Imagine cutting about an Internet forum threatening to batter folk.

 

:laugh:

 

How tragic must your life be.

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oh ah grantona

She won't be happy until football is a cinema. 

 

There is a fine line to be tread both ways. Fans need to wise up but the same token clubs need to wise up. Start by making the sections of main & wheatfield closest to Gorgie standing sections and probable singing sections 

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Just now, KingRudi_2012 said:

N lower. Surrounded by like minded fans who enjoy to stand at the fitba ? 

Theres obviously been complaints or Ann wouldnt have mentioned it in her statement. It is an 'all seated' stadium. 

 

Everybody stands when before kick-off, during half time and if theres a big moment during the match like a bad foul or a scoring opportunity etc.

 

Maybe try sitting down between these times before you get invited to leave...or fly doon the stairs!

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1 minute ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said:

What flags does this actually cover? 

 

A national flag is fine as long as its not adorned with sectarian or political slogans? 

 

Why do you feel the need to bring a national flag into Tynecastle?

 

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12 minutes ago, Erik said:

I expect the line '- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.' to be quoted a lot in this thread.

 

The 'defense' of most of Celtics song book for the last however many years has usually always been 'aye but its no even sectayreeeun' - which has allowed them to get away with a songbook which is 90% political in its content.

 

AB's words will remain only words till such times as she takes action against the supporters who come to visit and flaunt these rules - not minorities, but in almost their entirety.

 

:spoton:

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Just now, Phil Dunphy said:

 

 

Imagine cutting about an Internet forum threatening to batter folk.

 

:laugh:

 

How tragic must your life be.

You again! Imagine following a poster round a forum and sniping at him at every opportunity.

 

Ya pervert :lol:

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5 minutes ago, Erik said:

I expect the line '- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.' to be quoted a lot in this thread.

 

The 'defense' of most of Celtics song book for the last however many years has usually always been 'aye but its no even sectayreeeun' - which has allowed them to get away with a songbook which is 90% political in its content.

 

AB's words will remain only words till such times as she takes action against the supporters who come to visit and flaunt these rules - not minorities, but in almost their entirety.

 

 

100%. Whilst I agree with the vast majority of this latest statement if she is wanting to be seen to be totally genuine in her fight to make watching Hearts at Tynecastle the experience she claims she does she simply has to take firm action against Rantic supporters. If as seems to be being suggested she is holding back tickets in certain sections amongst the home crowd,  to make her security people’s life easier in identifying troublemakers the same has to apply, at least in the short term, to them and we should be limiting Rangers tickets for the game in 2nd December and making them aware that anyone breaking these rules will be removed from Tynecastle. And that their tickets will continue to decrease in number until such time as their support adhere. It would be completely unacceptable and hypocritical to be enforcing stringent rules on the home fans and then allow circa 3600 away fans to come into Tynecastle and behave in their usual manner so I really hope this is an issue Budge is planning on tackling. 

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11 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Good stuff from Miss Budge. 

 

Can`t wait for the complete ban of Celtic and Rangers fans.

 

A. Indefinite Bans

 

- Singing or chanting of any song or flying of any flag which is recognised as being sectarian, racist or political in its intent.  

 

 

Let`s hope she is good to her word.

Indeed I hope some are as quick to video celtic and rangers fans been sectarian and bringing flags with political intentions let's hope they do the right thing and send it in to the club? 

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1 minute ago, KyleLafferty said:

Looking forward to not having Celtic or Rangers at Tynecastle anymore then! 


Most of us have decent cameras on our phone these days. lets see if that mobile number gets flooded reporting the away fans when the uglies are in town

 

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Sexton Hardcastle

Would like to see them challenge someone’s ban when cat a away fans are 80% standing for 90mins.

 

A lot of it makes sense but a lot of it is utter shite. 

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1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said:

You again! Imagine following a poster round a forum and sniping at him at every opportunity.

 

Ya pervert :lol:

 

 

Go on teach him a lesson his browser history won't forget.

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Just now, magicTs said:

 

100%. Whilst I agree with the vast majority of this latest statement if she is wanting to be seen to be totally genuine in her fight to make watching Hearts at Tynecastle the experience she claims she does she simply has to take firm action against Rantic supporters. If as seems to be being suggested she is holding back tickets in certain sections amongst the home crowd,  to make her security people’s life easier in identifying troublemakers the same has to apply, at least in the short term, to them and we should be limiting Rangers tickets for the game in 2nd December and making them aware that anyone breaking these rules will be removed from Tynecastle. And that their tickets will continue to decrease in number until such time as their support adhere. It would be completely unacceptable and hypocritical to be enforcing stringent rules on the home fans and then allow circa 3600 away fans to come into Tynecastle and behave in their usual manner so I really hope this is an issue Budge is planning on tackling. 

I still dont understand why the arse cheeks get the whole of the Roseburn. They should get 800 tickets maximum with the first couple of rows removed. Hearts would sell-out the whole stadium against those two anyway so its not like we need their poisonous pound at Tynecastle.

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As evidenced before,   she is a bit limited in what she can say about the behaviour of visiting supports.     Any attempt to deal with that side of the issue is certain to be met with howls of criticism that Hearts are in denial regarding our own fans, etc etc.      

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Could be a bit awkward when we are invited to stand for the silence tomorrow and everyone remains seated for fear of being ejected from the stadium!

 

Seriously it is a good statement and as per other threads recently I hope the Billy Boys song in whatever form is on the list of banned songs. 

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Having stood in G lower for the best part of 5 seasons now, it will be a strange feeling to be sitting for the vast majority of the game. That said, if everyone else complies, it should not create much of an issue.

 

A full standing section would be preferable, but is quite clearly not an option at this time. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

I still dont understand why the arse cheeks get the whole of the Roseburn. They should get 800 tickets maximum with the first couple of rows removed. Hearts would sell-out the whole stadium against those two anyway so its not like we need their poisonous pound at Tynecastle.

 

The club done it before and then it wasn’t selling out.   Didn’t AB say last year it would be cut if demand is there from our support for tickets? 

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1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said:

Fantastic statement which I don’t think will  stretch as far as away fans.  

How is it possible to have a rule for one group of fans and not the other. Any bans would be contested in court costing the club considerable money.

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