Adam_the_legend Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, djseant said: Also there was a concert in August that couldn’t of done it any good? Won an award though so worth it 🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Adam_the_legend said: We don’t have a groundsman anymore?? We do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, djseant said: Also there was a concert in August that couldn’t of done it any good? Could have compacted the roots - problem is the stage and seats were only on part of the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djseant Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Adam_the_legend said: Won an award though so worth it 🙄🙄 🤔 still £1 million for it must be something that says about the maintenance of it or some kind of warranty from the company that installed it? It looked really tonight. With loads of games coming up I can’t see it improving anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Sums up our squad. Spent a shit load on it and it is one of the worst in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: ffs calm down Im only offering an possible suggestion but the sun is very low and the Gorgie end will not get much of it this time of year. Perhaps it was still so new. It is shite down the Roseburn end as well though. Something really gone wrong this autumn. Is it that STRI/SIS were still involved in maintenance this time last year? Incredibly this high tech pitch is cutting up in the same way the previous pitches did. Is it a curse? Is it incompetent groundskeepers? Is it a disease that couldn't be averted and the groundkeepers are actually doing a great job mitigating it? Big 3 week January break ahead for the club to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It’s a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Remind me of the names of the companies who took our money to install that pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Only we could spend £1.5 million on a pitch and to have it in a poorer state than it was a year ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Looked like their was no grass on it in the corner between Main & Gorgie at full time. The way it’s going not going to be much of a pitch come full time of the Sheep game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, kila said: Thought it played better than it looked but it is becoming quite a mess. Imagine the state come the Aberdeen game! First half the ball bobbled about a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Prof said: The worrying thing is that ground compaction appears to be having a bad effect on the grass growth. Even coarse grass varieties will struggle in that environment. Thanks for the info, I’ve actually learnt a lot from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, viva hate said: Need a bigger sunlight machine then🤔 Possibly, you see more of them at bigger grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 36 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Only we could spend £1.5 million on a pitch and to have it in a poorer state than it was a year ago A year ago It was perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I’d be demanding a refund. Wtf is that. Absolute tattie field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Levein been on gardening leave for a month and fecked the pitch already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) What a greeting faced shower of ****s. Edited December 19, 2019 by gorgie rd eh11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Right now we don’t know if the fault lies with the company who installed the pitch or the way it has been maintained - frankly I think the Club know the reason but stonewalled the fans at the AGM. The high stands suggestion just doesn’t cut the mustard - teams in England have huge stadiums with high stands however their similar hybrid pitches are like carpets. As has been pointed out the pitch was in good condition this time last year and we had high stands then. Did nobody press Mrs Budge on her explanation regarding the pitch? What puzzles me is last year we were bragging about our wonderful new pitch and Hibs were getting pelters over the state of ER pitch. So somethings happened over the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 To think budge was complaining a while back about how a few flares thrown on the park was going to cost money to repair the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, theshed said: To think budge was complaining a while back about how a few flares thrown on the park was going to cost money to repair the pitch A few flares 😊 Using the pitch being poor to justify throwing flares😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: What a greeting faced shower of ****s. That's true but in this case they are spot on. The pitch stopped us from playing our usual brand of silky one touch football. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) It's started already, Hibs fan on YouTube saying we let the pitch get in this state to stop teams from playing football every week Honestly though the state it's in is embarrassing, other teams will be laughing at us and it also gives them an excuse if they lose. Edited December 19, 2019 by Arthur Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3OBE Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: What a greeting faced shower of ****s. Would normally agree with you on that. But you can’t look at that and not be embarrassed. It cost us £1M. That probably the overall wage bill of some of the teams we are currently sitting behind in the league! Edited December 19, 2019 by E3OBE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 What I can't understand either is where there is little or no grass at all there is no visable notice of the plastic fibres that are injected into the root zone but are supposed sit just above the ground at a height that the grass would never be cut to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoof.hearted Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, Boris5115 said: What I can't understand either is where there is little or no grass at all there is no visable notice of the plastic fibres that are injected into the root zone but are supposed sit just above the ground at a height that the grass would never be cut to. Hybrid pitch is 96% real grass so I doubt you'd be able to notice anything from stands with naked eyes. Only my opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The pitch doesn't look very good just now and not what we were led to believe it would look like when it was laid, but I thought it stood up pretty well last night despite the terrible conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Did anyone ask about it at AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said: It's started already, Hibs fan on YouTube saying we let the pitch get in this state to stop teams from playing football every week Honestly though the state it's in is embarrassing, other teams will be laughing at us and it also gives them an excuse if they lose. we let our pitch die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonblood22 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Anyone else see Frimpong slip on his arse on it right in front of the BT cameras during the warm up? The pitch is in a state and unfortunately can't see it getting any better in the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, The Treasurer said: The pitch doesn't look very good just now and not what we were led to believe it would look like when it was laid, but I thought it stood up pretty well last night despite the terrible conditions. Certainly not as bad as it used to be, small consolation I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Thought Police said: Did anyone ask about it at AGM? See the AGM thread. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Barack said: Was bored, so I did some comparative research. Below, is Hearts v Hamilton on 26/12/18: Looks like carpet there. The difference is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Looks like carpet there. The difference is staggering. Looks like what a Hybrid Pitch should be like at this time of year. Something has went badly wrong but no one at the club willing to share this information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Looks like carpet there. The difference is staggering. I'm probably wrong, but did we not re-lay the pitch around this time last year or have I got muddled up with the time line (it does happen as I get more "mature") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: I'm probably wrong, but did we not re-lay the pitch around this time last year or have I got muddled up with the time line (it does happen as I get more "mature") The hybrid was laid in close season in summer of last year. It hasn't been relaid since then and should last many years more. Or should depending what exactly has gone wrong. The pitch was relaid about two years ago but it didn't take so we went down the hybrid route. Edited December 19, 2019 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hope they have not done a SRU and left the heating on to long and burnt the roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Hope they have not done a SRU and left the heating on to long and burnt the roots. You would hope that would be part of the computerised system and it would turn it off automatically to prevent damage. For £1m I wouldn't expect anything less tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 hours ago, theshed said: To think budge was complaining a while back about how a few flares thrown on the park was going to cost money to repair the pitch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The comparison photos from a year ago are shocking. £1m tattie field, it's like a visual representation of the mismanagement at the club. Huge expense for the pitch and squad with little value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: The hybrid was laid in close season in summer of last year. It hasn't been relaid since then and should last many years more. Or should depending what exactly has gone wrong. The pitch was relaid about two years ago but it didn't take so we went down the hybrid route. I could have sworn the new pitch was done this summer. The old memory ain't what it used to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, The Treasurer said: I could have sworn the new pitch was done this summer. The old memory ain't what it used to be If only there were a thread containing photos and time stamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 hours ago, hoof.hearted said: Hybrid pitch is 96% real grass so I doubt you'd be able to notice anything from stands with naked eyes. Only my opinion though. Ours is at least 50% mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: See the AGM thread. 😎 The Club stonewalled the fans! I think they know what the problem is but are to frightened to admit to yet another cock up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: Certainly not as bad as it used to be, small consolation I suppose. No consolation at all Dave! 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: The Club stonewalled the fans! I think they know what the problem is but are to frightened to admit to yet another cock up! Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: The Club stonewalled the fans! I think they know what the problem is but are to frightened to admit to yet another cock up! Hard not to agree. The most monitored pitch ever. The suppliers and contractors must have been in to investigate. The monitoring and maintenance history will have been available to them. And an independent expert surely also pulled in. A thorough investigation must surely have taken place on the outcome of a £1m purchase weeks if not months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 spent £!m and now seem to have the worst pitch in the league to match the team's performances. Something's gone wrong and it would be good to know what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Maybe. Come on Dave something just isn’t right! Getting the guy to stand up at the AGM with a pre-arranged script telling us they had no complaints from opposition teams FFS - no wonder they didn’t complain, most of them walked away with 3 points - and the pitch is deteriorating with every game! Not for the first time has the Club stonewalled the fans going back to the real reasons for the over spend on the new stand. Edited December 19, 2019 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Hard not to agree. The most monitored pitch ever. The suppliers and contractors must have been in to investigate. The monitoring and maintenance history will have been available to them. And an independent expert surely also pulled in. A thorough investigation must surely have taken place on the outcome of a £1m purchase weeks if not months ago. The club must know what the issue is. The most worrying visual aspect, albeit from the stands, is ground compaction seems to be a major issue. Ground compaction shows itself up as poor drainage, reduced grass growth and limited germination. Having now looked at the photos of the concert at Tynecastle, it’s fairly obvious that the concert resulted in the ground compaction, which is the cause of all the damage. Frankly I cannot think of any situation that would permit large numbers of people onto a newly laid pitch. Edited December 19, 2019 by Prof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Prof said: The club must know what the issue is. The most worrying visual aspect, albeit from the stands, is ground compaction seems to be a major issue. Ground compaction shows itself up as poor drainage, reduced grass growth and limited germination. Having now looked at the photos of the concert at Tynecastle, it’s fairly obvious that the concert resulted in the ground compaction, which is the cause of all the damage. Frankly I cannot think of any situation that would permit large numbers of people onto a newly laid pitch. You seem awfully convinced of the issue after viewing it from the stand. Are you a professional in lawn/ pitch engineering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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