Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, TynecastleBC5 said: That's encouraging to hear mate 👍 can't say I know anything about him. Hopefully somebody on here watches league 1/follows Doncaster etc and could give an opinion. I haven't seen anybody give an analysis of him. Sounds like you know as much as me about him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, John Rambo said: Some of the comments on here... Do some of you actually think before typing? Beggars belief some of the absolute sh!te written. Far too much negativity and almost wanting players to fail before they're in the door. Get a bl**dy grip some of you. Should just add, thank the Lord we have who we have in place looking after recruitment. Not some of the half-wits on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Nope, I'm still not seeing it... 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Nope, I'm still not seeing it... Uncanny, bet they're never seen in the same room. There is of course one glaring difference, the unspoken elephant in the room, so to speak. One has a beard. Edited July 1, 2022 by TypoonJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Nope, I'm still not seeing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Nope, I'm still not seeing it... I said Lewis Neilson not Gary Lineker 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, John Rambo said: Should just add, thank the Lord we have who we have in place looking after recruitment. Not some of the half-wits on here. On the topic of Joe Wright the club had obviously been monitoring him for a while as we offered him a contract before he got his bad injury. So anyone that thinks this guy is just a stab in the dark has not done their homework. The club have offered him training facilities to prove his fitness and it will be a chance for him to mix with our players and get back to training with other players rather than in the gym or on his own. That will give him a lift and it will also give Robbie and his team a chance to have a good look at him and decide if he is worth giivng a contract. He will get the help from our expert physio and fitness teams so the risks are pretty minimal for Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, wavydavy said: On the topic of Joe Wright the club had obviously been monitoring him for a while as we offered him a contract before he got his bad injury. So anyone that thinks this guy is just a stab in the dark has not done their homework. The club have offered him training facilities to prove his fitness and it will be a chance for him to mix with our players and get back to training with other players rather than in the gym or on his own. That will give him a lift and it will also give Robbie and his team a chance to have a good look at him and decide if he is worth giivng a contract. He will get the help from our expert physio and fitness teams so the risks are pretty minimal for Hearts. Agreed, it's a pretty much no lose situation for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, wavydavy said: On the topic of Joe Wright the club had obviously been monitoring him for a while as we offered him a contract before he got his bad injury. So anyone that thinks this guy is just a stab in the dark has not done their homework. The club have offered him training facilities to prove his fitness and it will be a chance for him to mix with our players and get back to training with other players rather than in the gym or on his own. That will give him a lift and it will also give Robbie and his team a chance to have a good look at him and decide if he is worth giivng a contract. He will get the help from our expert physio and fitness teams so the risks are pretty minimal for Hearts. And I'm sure any contract we offer will take account of the risk with wages and terms that reflect it. Probably/possibly a one year contract with the option, in Hearts favour, to extend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said: And I'm sure any contract we offer will take account of the risk with wages and terms that reflect it. Probably/possibly a one year contract with the option, in Hearts favour, to extend. Why even take a punt on a player like that though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? He , according to our manager , was worth signing previously . If he has regained fitness we would be getting a good player for very little outlay . Appreciate we had too many punts previously but think we will always be in the market for this kind of signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? Like what? From what I can gather on here none of us have seen him in action so none of us know what 'that' might be. One minute people are banging on about all the money we've got, then the next someone's making out we can't take a punt on someone our recruitment team obviously fancy. As things stand the club are taking no risk whatsoever with him and might just end up with a gem. Unless the people who are assessing him think he's worth that punt, then it'll cost us next to nothing (training and assessments obvioulsy cost us real money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? We are not, as I understand it, taking a punt. He was well scouted by Doc et al and offered terms last year. Clealry they were keen to get this player in the door. He got injured and we withdrew said terms. He is training with us to prove he is over said injuries and if/when medical department, Doc, Robbie et al are 100% convinced he is over his injuries, he will no doubt be offered suitable terms that account for his recent issues. As others have noted, not a lose-lose for the club as with other 'project' players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? Because we were days away from signing him prior to a bad injury…if the club have stood by him and still want to give him a trial they’ve obviously been tracking his progress through rehab and are satisfied he’s going in the right direction. Give him 1 year on low wage with an incentive that if he does well and gets himself fit through the season he gets an extra year at our say so with a wage bump. Everybody wins in that scenario. We get a cheap experienced CB with a point to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme an H... Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? He'll have a medical to assess whether he's fully recovered from the injury and whether he's likely to re-injure himself. Also, I'm pretty sure Kingsely had a bad injury before we signed him and was just coming back from it when he signed. Edited July 1, 2022 by Gimme an H... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? He has had one bad injury from which he could well recover, he is training for us to assess him, we previously wanted to sign him, he could turn out to be a gem, we would likely get him for a minimal amount, brownie points with his agency, if he isn't good enough or fit enough we won't sign him so it is risk free, a far higher risk would be signing someone with John Souttar's injury record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, John Rambo said: We are not, as I understand it, taking a punt. He was well scouted by Doc et al and offered terms last year. Clealry they were keen to get this player in the door. He got injured and we withdrew said terms. He is training with us to prove he is over said injuries and if/when medical department, Doc, Robbie et al are 100% convinced he is over his injuries, he will no doubt be offered suitable terms that account for his recent issues. As others have noted, not a lose-lose for the club as with other 'project' players. Not suggesting you but many on here did not show the same level of tolerance when we signed Aidy White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 16 hours ago, JamboAl said: Golf? Scored a nine at the golf in the past as well JamboAI lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Not suggesting you but many on here did not show the same level of tolerance when we signed Aidy White Aidy White had a list of injuries, not just one though and I think the period of time he missed was at least double if not longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Daktari said: Still got your boots?😁 My old boots had leather studs Daktari lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JamboAl said: Not suggesting you but many on here did not show the same level of tolerance when we signed Aidy White I suppose the difference between the two is that White knew his glory days were behind him and i think found it hard to motivate himself. Hearts would be Joe Wright's biggest club and it's a real opportunity for him. Personally i doubt there would have been much enthusiasm on here for signing him pre injury and it's hard to see how a year out would change that - is he really worth the effort, we shall see. I suspect he is a replacement for Moore anyway, and not a regular starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Joe Wright's story gives me worrying Aidy White vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Joe Wright's story gives me worrying Aidy White vibes. the one difference for me is it looks like he will need to prove his fitness and that he would improve the squad and if he does not do both RN and JS will say thanks for trying out but we wish you well in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Not suggesting you but many on here did not show the same level of tolerance when we signed Aidy White Certainly not me as you suggest. White was getting good reviews at Leeds and even Barnsley before his injury. He only showed in glimpses for us what he was capable of. Sadly his best days were long, long ago. To get players we otherwise couldn't afford, we sometimes have to offer training and medical facilities just to see where they are at. White is slightly different in context to Wright but again I trust those in power now to get it right more often than not. Allied to that, I always want whoever we sign to do well. They are playing for my club after all, why wouldn't I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Joe Wright's story gives me worrying Aidy White vibes. It shouldn’t. White missed 31 months due to injury. Wright has missed 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: It shouldn’t. White missed 31 months due to injury. Wright has missed 12. Maybe, but players "rebuilding their career" always sounds foreboding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? That is the point in watching him before hand without an obligation to offer him a contract though so it would not be a punt if we did decide to offer him some thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 If he performs in his trial then there's no real harm in a one year deal with the option of another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Maybe, but players "rebuilding their career" always sounds foreboding. He isn’t really though. It’s no different to Beni. Both bad knee injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Think people are living in fear of another aidy white situation which is fair. We have more than enough cover in the squad this time to take a gamble on Wright. The club has changed from those days. Although White did play well in a semi and a final and was not as bad as people where desperate to make out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: If he performs in his trial then there's no real harm in a one year deal with the option of another year. This. I have zero qualms about assessing players in person before choosing whether or not to offer a contract. We have done this many a time, and quite often decided against it. If we do offer anything, it’s hardly going to be a huge cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TypoonJambo said: Uncanny, bet they're never seen in the same room. There is of course one glaring difference, the unspoken elephant in the room, so to speak. One has a beard. Hopefully they are never seen in the same room, well not at Tynecastle anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Sooks said: I said Lewis Neilson not Gary Lineker 😄 👏👏👏 It took me a minute or two to get that. Well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccjambo1874 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 If Peter Haring can come back from being out as long as he was and perform - I would even say better - then I have zero doubts the boy Wright could do so as well. Arguably out for a lesser period than what Haring was? Or at least thereabouts. Same injury risk applies to Beni currently but again we will be itching for him to be back after his 11-12 months out. A 1 year deal with the option of an extension wouldn't be the worst providing he can get his fitness back and recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 People were wanting us to break the bank to keep Souttar, who was a much bigger risk imo. Can't see the issue with it, we'll have learned from Aidy White I'm sure and will be cautious in what, if anything, we offer him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I have no problem with having a good look at Joe Wright. We've been tracking him for a long time, as we have with Grant, unfortunately the boy got a very bad injury. I think he needs a couple of friendlies to prove himself. I don't see the harm in it, we're well covered at CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Quick glance at a Doncaster forum suggests he was fully committed on the park, good on the ball and was developing well. But also injury prone and could get bullied off the ball at times. Time will tell, but could be a useful addition if he is over his injury and it doesn't hold him back physically or mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Defo got Aidy White vibes about it but if he performs well enough in training and we're confident he's a good player a one year deal wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. White was just pish bar that run for the pen in the semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combo74 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Maybe, but players "rebuilding their career" always sounds foreboding. Beni could be out for the best part of a year by the time he comes back… Souttar was out for a couple of years on the space of 3 or 4… Players get injuries and successfully come back; a player being out for a year isn’t that unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Joe Wright's story gives me worrying Aidy White vibes. Apples and Oranges. Besides, Aidy White had absolutely no injury problems with us - he just wasn't very good. Obviously got something about him if we've kept him close all this time. Edited July 1, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 It’s wrights first major injury. And it was impact related from what i read. Souttar chocolate ankles is a bigger risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Apache Mal said: Why even take a punt on a player like that though? I wonder why der hun took a punt on Soutter considering his (serious) injury record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Aidy White wasn’t a success here because he wasn’t a good enough footballer. Joe Wright might be good enough. No harm in a trial that gives him a chance to prove it. Hope he’s brilliant and we offer him a deal. If he’s not then good luck to the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, TheBigO said: Are we now saying Gino is lazy? I'm not sure that's fair to be honest. He's sometimes not the most intelligent as far as decision making, but I've never seen a lack of effort from the lad. Couple of games last season he played up top and worked his arse off in particular, one away at Celtic where it was thankless and he kept plugging away especially. I quite like Gino. Not irreplaceable at all, and if he were go, like most, wish him well and not think much more of it, but certainly happy enough if he stays. I've liked his updates on the friendly but let's not get carried away about a personal opinion from someone watching the first bounce game of the season, in 38c heat, from over a fence (nae offence Typoon - just not wanting people to run too far with your comment!) Don’t think he is lazy, just not nearly good enough for where we are now. Didn’t really shine in the championship, albeit injuries hampered him, was a bit part player last season and given where we are going this season we will be signing better players than Gino. I’d be surprised if he is still with us when the window shuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Maybe, but players "rebuilding their career" always sounds foreboding. Yep, Levein was never the same was he? Haring just hasn’t made it back after virtually no football for 18 months, pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said: Aidy White wasn’t a success here because he wasn’t a good enough footballer. Joe Wright might be good enough. No harm in a trial that gives him a chance to prove it. Hope he’s brilliant and we offer him a deal. If he’s not then good luck to the lad. White had a good CV. In isolation possibly worth a punt. Wright clearly much less of a risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 We want to sign the best players we can in our adopted system(s). Our budget may be a lot higher than before but will still have a limit. Whatever budget we have left needs to go as a priority to improving our attacking/goal scoring options. If we can't also afford another top quality defender we may have to settle for a cheaper option who can do a good job in specific circumstances. Wright could come into this category. Not a first pick but someone to defend the box eg late in a game when we are holding on to a lead. We seem to be vulnerable in the air in defence from set pieces (no stats to back that up just a gut feeling). At his height may be useful to throw into the box as a goal threat. Of course if there's an ongoing injury problem, then the risk would outweigh the potential benefit. We will need to trust the manager's judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gar jambo Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, john thomas said: White had a good CV. In isolation possibly worth a punt. Wright clearly much less of a risk Joe Wright is the slowest centre half you will see just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, gar jambo said: Joe Wright is the slowest centre half you will see just saying do you know your stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, gar jambo said: Joe Wright is the slowest centre half you will see just saying Hibs game just finished on You Tube, quite sure you just seen the slowest centre half 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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