Kxf51 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 What happens if he gets a bad injury tomorrow ? and i really hope that doesn't happen, can rangers pull the plug or are they obliged to sign him permanently, anyone know ? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: Soapy plays in the champions league next season…..rangers string a decent game or two…..soapy goes to England 10m +……..nap In a back four in the CL hahahahaha not a ****ing chance in hell. He won’t even be in the starting line up 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: Soapy plays in the champions league next season…..rangers string a decent game or two…..soapy goes to England 10m +……..nap Nap???? 😂 Plays away at fir park the weekend after the champions league when the main starting 11 are rested, gets injured, then finds himself on loan back at Dundee United within 18 months trying to get back fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Nap???? 😂 Plays away at fir park the weekend after the champions league when the main starting 11 are rested, gets injured, then finds himself on loan back at Dundee United within 18 months trying to get back fit A much more likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Souttar must be feeling a little unloved this morning after what Gio Van Bronckhorst said about being content to wait until the summer. This is the upshot of being a pre-contract freebie. There simply isn't the same pressure to play you, and you start to realise that you are simply a disruptor signing... Of course, that is the whole rationale for the SFA/SPFL allowing pre-contracts (to help the OF damage other team's squads and the harmony therein) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I am convinced we have agreed a fee for him to move after tonight, hence why he didn't play iny Saturday but seems to be fit for tonight. I hope I am wrong as would hate to think we have pandered to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, lou said: I am convinced we have agreed a fee for him to move after tonight, hence why he didn't play iny Saturday but seems to be fit for tonight. I hope I am wrong as would hate to think we have pandered to them If that is the way to get an extra £200k then I'm ok with it...At 19k pw for half a year, 500k is a fair claim as the cost of getting Souttar for an extra 6mths - it is how much Rangers themselves value him. Edited January 26, 2022 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Souttar must be feeling a little unloved this morning after what Gio Van Bronckhorst said about being content to wait until the summer. This is the upshot of being a pre-contract freebie. There simply isn't the same pressure to play you, and you start to realise that you are simply a disruptor signing... Of course, that is the whole rationale for the SFA/SPFL allowing pre-contracts (to help the OF damage other team's squads and the harmony therein) 'Content to wait for the summer' yet club bid 300k in this window. Content would seem to mean we are tightfisted ***** with no class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bannon Flick Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Rangers are only spinning the ‘content to wait’ line because they can’t meet our asking price so well played Hearts. I don’t believe the theory we have made any deal with Rangers yet tbh I’m as gutted as everyone that he’s chosen Rangers but if he plays tonight, we should 100% get behind him. He will be as determined as ever to show how good a player he is. I wouldn’t bet against him scoring either - how tremendous that would be. Edited January 26, 2022 by The Bannon Flick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Souttar might still be with us V them soon, that would be a laugh. Knock back every offer they make . Souttar stays till end of season, will he be played V Them.... That is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Factuer Moi said: Souttar might still be with us V them soon, that would be a laugh. Knock back every offer they make . Souttar stays till end of season, will he be played V Them.... That is the question. Bit I don't understand as even a question. Not having a go. Rangers are acquiring a player they must see as someone who will give everything for the current team he plays for else they wouldn't be in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 20 hours ago, Kxf51 said: What happens if he gets a bad injury tomorrow ? and i really hope that doesn't happen, can rangers pull the plug or are they obliged to sign him permanently, anyone know ? 🤷♂️ Does it matter now ? He gets injured now he is NOT our responsibility beyond 31 May and Rangers would also wash their hands of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Bit I don't understand as even a question. Not having a go. Rangers are acquiring a player they must see as someone who will give everything for the current team he plays for else they wouldn't be in for him. It will be interesting if Souttar remains here though, as yet it is as likely as Us accepting a low ball fee. Or any other scenario. What if he is still a Hearts player when that time comes calling, one half of the wedgers would be howling the other cheering him on. Mental cases. A career threatening injury seems to be the only solution to this, if we can't have him, then neither can they. Let's see how ****ing loyal they are to him, when they have to pay the rehab. Edited January 26, 2022 by Factuer Moi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bannon Flick Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, Factuer Moi said: It will be interesting if Souttar remains here though, as yet it is as likely as Us accepting a low ball fee. Or any other scenario. What if he is still a Hearts player when that time comes calling, one half of the wedgers would be howling the other cheering him on. Mental cases. A career threatening injury seems to be the only solution to this, if we can't have him, then neither can they. Let's see how ****ing loyal they are to him, when they have to pay the rehab. Not sure if I have picked you up correctly, are you actually hoping the player gets a serious long term injury? Surely not but absolutely mental take if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Factuer Moi said: It will be interesting if Souttar remains here though, as yet it is as likely as Us accepting a low ball fee. Or any other scenario. What if he is still a Hearts player when that time comes calling, one half of the wedgers would be howling the other cheering him on. Mental cases. A career threatening injury seems to be the only solution to this, if we can't have him, then neither can they. Let's see how ****ing loyal they are to him, when they have to pay the rehab. Its not just a fee Rangers need to consider. It's paying his wages at the big baws salary they've promised. A lot depends on the Goldson situation as to his departure this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 11:23, Horatio Caine said: Sorry to read that Moore has a small thigh problem. His thighs always looked big enough to me. Maybe he was mis quoted. Maybe he has a small Thai problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 11:23, Horatio Caine said: Sorry to read that Moore has a small thigh problem. His thighs always looked big enough to me. Maybe he was mis quoted. Maybe he has a small Thai problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 11:23, Horatio Caine said: Sorry to read that Moore has a small thigh problem. His thighs always looked big enough to me. Maybe he was mis quoted. Maybe he has a small Thai problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazhearts Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It certainly looks like Everton plan to put Branthwaite out on loan this month. I suppose a lot will depend on Souttar leaving. I can't see Everton agreeing to loan him out to us if Souttar is still here (as his 1st team appearances would be limited). However if Souttar leaves in the next few days I think Everton agreeing to loan Branthwaite to us is a possibility - Although him being Left footed might be an issue and upset the balance of our back three. https://princerupertstower.com/2021/11/29/everton-jarrad-branthwaite-loan-january/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 You can't help thinking that Souttar was left out last week to avoid being cup tied. Bear in mind that rangers covet this trophy which they have never won. Still think they will do a deal in this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, tazhearts said: It certainly looks like Everton plan to put Branthwaite out on loan this month. I suppose a lot will depend on Souttar leaving. I can't see Everton agreeing to loan him out to us if Souttar is still here (as his 1st team appearances would be limited). However if Souttar leaves in the next few days I think Everton agreeing to loan Branthwaite to us is a possibility - Although him being Left footed might be an issue and upset the balance of our back three. https://princerupertstower.com/2021/11/29/everton-jarrad-branthwaite-loan-january/ Not sure a 19 year-old Everton reserve would solve any problems we might have replacing Souttar regardless of which foot he kicks with. Experience is what’s needed at this stage of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bannon Flick said: Not sure if I have picked you up correctly, are you actually hoping the player gets a serious long term injury? Surely not but absolutely mental take if so. Not really seeking the player to be injured, although i would laugh like **** . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Riccarton3 said: Its not just a fee Rangers need to consider. It's paying his wages at the big baws salary they've promised. A lot depends on the Goldson situation as to his departure this window. Yep, everything is speculative right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, tazhearts said: It certainly looks like Everton plan to put Branthwaite out on loan this month. I suppose a lot will depend on Souttar leaving. I can't see Everton agreeing to loan him out to us if Souttar is still here (as his 1st team appearances would be limited). However if Souttar leaves in the next few days I think Everton agreeing to loan Branthwaite to us is a possibility - Although him being Left footed might be an issue and upset the balance of our back three. https://princerupertstower.com/2021/11/29/everton-jarrad-branthwaite-loan-january/ If we manage to get Braithwaite in on loan it will most likely be at the expense of Alex Cochrane as Braithwaite would play left centre of a back 3 with Kingsley moving to the wing back slot. I would imagine Everton would have a stipulation in the loan deal stating that he plays most games if fit, similar to the Woodburn deal. Its also possible if Souttar leaves that Braithwaite could play in the Centre of a back 3 with Halkett on the right and Kingsley on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Does it matter now ? He gets injured now he is NOT our responsibility beyond 31 May and Rangers would also wash their hands of him I find that surprising on the basis he could be left in limbo if he were to be injured. You may be right but I would have thought his agent might have incorporated some safeguards in the pre-contract arrangement particularly with his previous history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 22 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: In a back four in the CL hahahahaha not a ****ing chance in hell. He won’t even be in the starting line up 😂. Goldson will be away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Think he’ll be away tomorrow 500k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said: Goldson will be away. So what, that doesn’t mean that big stiffy will replace him 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 132goals1958 said: I find that surprising on the basis he could be left in limbo if he were to be injured. You may be right but I would have thought his agent might have incorporated some safeguards in the pre-contract arrangement particularly with his previous history. More likely Rangers have entered some clause, if not the the insurance covers his wages. Usually about half the length of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Wonder if we've managed to force a sell on % too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kxf51 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Does it matter now ? He gets injured now he is NOT our responsibility beyond 31 May and Rangers would also wash their hands of him Fair enough, makes sense. So rangers could do that, so signing a per contract doesn't mean a lot then.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: You can't help thinking that Souttar was left out last week to avoid being cup tied. Bear in mind that the rangers covet this trophy which they have never won. Still think they will do a deal in this window. f.t.f.y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: You can't help thinking that Souttar was left out last week to avoid being cup tied. Bear in mind that rangers covet this trophy which they have never won. Still think they will do a deal in this window. Still being in the cup I think we still should have named him to cup tie him. If he wants to kid on he's got a sore ankle then so be it. Watched Dikamona throw everything and the kitchen sink to play in the derby at Easter Road and put in a MOM performance. So its entirely doable and a total nonsense excuse. Imagine we both get to the final after selling him? Idiocy IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Boyces beard said: If we manage to get Braithwaite in on loan it will most likely be at the expense of Alex Cochrane as Braithwaite would play left centre of a back 3 with Kingsley moving to the wing back slot. I would imagine Everton would have a stipulation in the loan deal stating that he plays most games if fit, similar to the Woodburn deal. Its also possible if Souttar leaves that Braithwaite could play in the Centre of a back 3 with Halkett on the right and Kingsley on the left. We're not even talking about Moore anymore? I think a deal with Bristol must be very doable. He's came in and been pretty solid but nothing spectacular, personally think the laddie has a lot more to give and if a deal can be done now, then it should. (assuming the club are keen ofc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, Kxf51 said: Fair enough, makes sense. So rangers could do that, so signing a per contract doesn't mean a lot then.👍 It means both agree to a deal at the end of the season. If Souttar can't fulfil his side of it by being unable to play football I'd assume Rangers can back out. If he can play they have to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said: It means both agree to a deal at the end of the season. If Souttar can't fulfil his side of it by being unable to play football I'd assume Rangers can back out. If he can play they have to take him. I would imagine Souttar wouldn’t have signed a pre contract on those terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badonde Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, sac said: Think he’ll be away tomorrow 500k Correct👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I reckon Rangers might offer £500k and we’ll reject it. Just say, “**** it we’ll keep him”, the message being, Hearts have no financial need to sell good players mid season. It will then go to deadline day imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I reckon Rangers might offer £500k and we’ll reject it. Just say, “**** it we’ll keep him”, the message being, Hearts have no financial need to sell good players mid season. It will then go to deadline day imo 500 is an absolute steal. And nobody ever stated a price. It was the usual media coming to a figure THEY think is good for a diddy team. No point being robust financially and then not showing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I reckon Rangers might offer £500k and we’ll reject it. Just say, “**** it we’ll keep him”, the message being, Hearts have no financial need to sell good players mid season. It will then go to deadline day imo We certainly seem to be in a game of Chicken over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Riccarton3 said: 500 is an absolute steal. And nobody ever stated a price. It was the usual media coming to a figure THEY think is good for a diddy team. No point being robust financially and then not showing it. Yep. As I say I think that type of bid comes in and we might just say, **** off, quadruple it or he’s here till May and good luck with your goldson situation. 500k is 5 months FoH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Yep. As I say I think that type of bid comes in and we might just say, **** off, quadruple it or he’s here till May and good luck with your goldson situation. 500k is 5 months FoH. There he is playing tonight. To get 3 points closer to these ***** with months of the season left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kxf51 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I would imagine Souttar wouldn’t have signed a pre contract on those terms. Yeah, that would be a massive gamble by soutter, he could end up with nowt. Surely he'll be looking to sign before end of window, makes sense and hopefully means we get a decent fee.🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If Halkett is injured the price has gone up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Soapy was magnificent tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: If Halkett is injured the price has gone up. I think if the hamstring is bad, Souttar is not for sale. I'd be looking at recalling Chris Hamilton from Arbroath too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Soapy was magnificent tonight. Agreed - he strolled through that game. It's difficult to argue with the decision to keep playing him given his performances in the last couple of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Soapy was magnificent tonight. Agreed. Was very good. The rat faced prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 superb blocks/ tackles tonight Can't doubt his commitment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: If Halkett is injured the price has gone up. I agree. Another 300,000 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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