Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, McCrae said: Last year we were awful and RN was lucky to keep his job. I put a lot of the reasons for our improvement this year down to Savage and the new players he has sourced. I would have preferred a more experienced manager rather than one learning his trade. Credit were credit is due though we are playing much better football and RN should be praised. This year I don’t think we have anything of substance to complain about. I don’t have a problem with and fully understand why fans wants to give Souttar some stick, he deserves it. He really wasn't. Managers are rarely sacked when doing the main thing they were employed to do, and are even more rarely sacked for cup results. Neilson is plenty experienced right now - in his 8th season as a manager? - with experience for different teams in different leagues and countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, McCrae said: Last year we were awful and RN was lucky to keep his job. I put a lot of the reasons for our improvement this year down to Savage and the new players he has sourced. I would have preferred a more experienced manager rather than one learning his trade. Credit were credit is due though we are playing much better football and RN should be praised. This year I don’t think we have anything of substance to complain about. I don’t have a problem with and fully understand why fans wants to give Souttar some stick, he deserves it. Souttar got stick on here from me from last Friday to Monday, i saw the light. I have no problem with anyone who sees things differently, i do see that we have learned from mistakes bad results. I have grown to respect Robbie due to his Highs rather than those lows we all felt. It was always going to be a learning curve, i sense we are out of it to some extent. No way am i saying Robbie is that Hero, at the moment though it looks and feels that way to me. People hate people for numerous reasons, Robbie is getting the love, if he ****s up i will revert back to the bad old days. OUt OUt OUt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Their antics at games annoys me much more. Who knows who are actual Hearts fans on this forum. I know a couple of Jambos on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Factuer Moi said: I know a couple of Jambos on here Not really a glowing endorsement, Bud. There are Jambos on here who spraff shite on a quite regular basis ! That's on here ! At the game, it's worse ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Boab said: Not really a glowing endorsement, Bud. There are Jambos on here who spraff shite on a quite regular basis ! That's on here ! At the game, it's worse ! At least at the game you can spraff shite back , maybe even get round onto the Wheatfield cobbles if spraff gets upgraded quick. Even if not playing at home, i will pay for the Taxi to the Wheatfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Hearts boot out Rangers bid for John Souttar as Robbie Neilson warns champions must stump up - Daily Record Not seen it posted, apologies if has been already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Make it a million ✨ no clause. Take it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Factuer Moi said: At least at the game you can spraff shite back , maybe even get round onto the Wheatfield cobbles if spraff gets upgraded quick. Even if not playing at home, i will pay for the Taxi to the Wheatfield. 🤣👍 Nothing wrong with a vent at the soccer ball ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superscot Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Honestly don't think that in the media interviews Robbie is always speaking freely. He's so consistent in his lines sometimes, such as JS staying unless a substantial offer is received, that it sounds like he's been briefed to say that - or something along those lines. Ultimately, it's Joe Savage who will be dictating the narrative of what Robbie says, and it will be designed to help achieve the best outcome for the club, as that's Joe's job. Gone are the days of manager's just rocking up and speaking off the cuff, there's more thought that goes into it than I think most here seem to appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Boab said: 🤣👍 Nothing wrong with a vent at the soccer ball ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, steve123 said: Hearts boot out Rangers bid for John Souttar as Robbie Neilson warns champions must stump up - Daily Record Not seen it posted, apologies if has been already. Well done Hearts. He is worth more than 300k to us on the pitch. Pay us our valuation or jog on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 hours ago, GinRummy said: Because Souttar has already signed the pre-contract agreement. Yup the minute he put pen to paper we are left with a poor negotiating position. We could of course tell them to bolt but instead we will no doubt be pragmatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 It was the right decision not to play him. If we cup tied him, we'd be knocking value off his potential sale. If Rangers cannot meet our demands now, we'll play him for the rest of the season and in the next cup game. No biggie. No harm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Off to[ic slightly but kinda related to Souttar situation, anyone know what happened with Moore today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: It was the right decision not to play him. If we cup tied him, we'd be knocking value off his potential sale. If Rangers cannot meet our demands now, we'll play him for the rest of the season and in the next cup game. No biggie. No harm done. Drawing sevco ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, 1953 said: Surely trying to get The Rangers to pay decent cash for him in this window is exactly the reason we've not cup tied him. I really don't get folks wanting him to go but want to cup tie him just for spite. If we want to win the cup we'll in all probability have to play them, Celtic or both. That and a 'we won't be pushed around' is why perhaps we should have. Up to Savage + Robbie though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boab said: Drawing sevco ? I knew someone would say it, and get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 If the clubs are still negotiating, then I can live with the decision not to cup tie Souttar, given it would decrease his value to Sevco. However, pretending he is injured just annoys everyone. It would have been better to say ‘we decided it would be better not to play him today, as he isn’t in the right place mentally given all of the speculation over his future.’ Has the additional advantage of probably being true. Might annoy Souttar, but what is he going to do at this point? Sign for another club again? I will say this though - they had better be damn close to a deal, and at the right price. Sadly, I expect this has ‘undisclosed fee’ stamped all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, feej said: Just think that's how it will go, we have our price they have theirs, would expect to get a better fee however I think they may comprise and agree on something in this region. Time to make a stand against these scumbags - £500k or they can do one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superscot Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Doc Rob said: If the clubs are still negotiating, then I can live with the decision not to cup tie Souttar, given it would decrease his value to Sevco. However, pretending he is injured just annoys everyone. It would have been better to say ‘we decided it would be better not to play him today, as he isn’t in the right place mentally given all of the speculation over his future.’ Has the additional advantage of probably being true. Might annoy Souttar, but what is he going to do at this point? Sign for another club again? I will say this though - they had better be damn close to a deal, and at the right price. Sadly, I expect this has ‘undisclosed fee’ stamped all over it. Crazy thought ... but what if he is slightly injured and Robbie's telling the truth. Cause I'm sure they can reason just as you say, and as you say, don't see the benefit of lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Now that we have made it clear to John Souttar how unhappy we are with him, I reckon we should lay off him during games now, assuming he stays. We need to focus on the team effort. More booing etc will only put pressure on Hearts now as we try to remain determined to get proper money from Rangers if they want him this season. We have to back Hearts sticking to their guns if we keep him. 3rd place will be worth a lot of cash as will a good cup run. Maybe more than Rangers are trying to get away with. If John Souttar helps us do both it will have been a great answer to any other club trying to con us in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 300k for full Scottish international in good form moving into the business end of the season. Souttar, that's your next employer 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Was 500k up it immediately to 600k. They'll get the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Superscot said: Crazy thought ... but what if he is slightly injured and Robbie's telling the truth. Cause I'm sure they can reason just as you say, and as you say, don't see the benefit of lying. There is a bit of both going on Has a sore back was given time to talk with people. nothing wrong at all. Whispers a deal is near done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 So one of our most injury prone players picks up an injury and all of a sudden it’s lies? This place sometimes is unbelievable. Just let the guys who are experts in dealing with situations like this deal with it. The amount of shrapnel being spraffed is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Time to make a stand against these scumbags - £500k or they can do one! I would love us to do that and hold out for good money to reinvest in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Rods said: Well done Hearts. He is worth more than 300k to us on the pitch. Pay us our valuation or jog on. They are skint the 12 mill ,if they got that ! That’s Ashley’s for the shirt deal and they will probably pay anything on the never never . It was said they will have to sell to buy so you can guarantee Goldson will be sold in the window there’s no danger they will let him walk for nowt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Wee Mikey said: Not always. A certain tackle at Albion Place Stadium springs to mind. 😄 Ps ... anyone got a link for that 'un? @kila posted a couple of crackers:- A couple of gifs I made at the time ( Barker was December, Bartley was January): https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/177208-john-souttar-footage-v-hibs/&do=findComment&comment=6680457 Which one is that? He’s never had a good game down there never mind made a challenge worthy of any note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, buzzbomb1958 said: They are skint the 12 mill ,if they got that ! That’s Ashley’s for the shirt deal and they will probably pay anything on the never never . It was said they will have to sell to buy so you can guarantee Goldson will be sold in the window there’s no danger they will let him walk for nowt They need someone willing to pay for Goldson, doesn’t seem to be much happening with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Obviously their latest high street bank loan doesn't cover the required fee. Just shut this down, Hearts, before they get shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 And they wonder why as an organisation they are so thoroughly detested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Doesn’t look like he’s ever going to play 20 games on the trot for us though, in six years at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Pasquale for King said: They need someone willing to pay for Goldson, doesn’t seem to be much happening with that. They are gambling big time either get a much needed couple of mill now or f all come summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said: They are gambling big time either get a much needed couple of mill now or f all come summer I don’t really pay much attention but is there anyone linked with the ugly *****? Edited January 22, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said: They are gambling big time either get a much needed couple of mill now or f all come summer I don't want to see Souttar away for 500k or less and then watch them recoup up to 1m for Goldson. **** that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 "600k you say? Now 700k." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I don’t really pay much attention but is there anyone linked with the ugly *****? A couple of clubs can’t remember who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, feej said: I would love us to do that and hold out for good money to reinvest in the team. We can't hold out for "good money". He goes now for shite money or in June for nothing. Edited January 22, 2022 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 We should bid for Goldson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: We should bid for Goldson. Good idea. Let's bid £300,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: Good idea. Let's bid £300,000. What if they accept it 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: What if they accept it 😂 Then we're stuck with Goldson, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: Then we're stuck with Goldson, I guess. All our FoH contributions go to his wages. 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: We can't hold out for "good money". He goes now for shite money or in June for nothing. 🙈🙊🙉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Maybe put out a rumour that the injury was the result if an over enthusiastic tackle at training. Maybe a follow up statement that training at a club like Hearts is very physical. Who knows how the club formerly known as Rangers might feel about their investment being put at risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: He really wasn't. Managers are rarely sacked when doing the main thing they were employed to do, and are even more rarely sacked for cup results. Neilson is plenty experienced right now - in his 8th season as a manager? - with experience for different teams in different leagues and countries. and had very little success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 So they got four times market value for Patterson but offer derisory 300k for JS. Scum club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, JackLadd said: So they got four times market value for Patterson but offer derisory 300k for JS. Scum club. Rangers are financially in the mire. They need every penny to survive. If they don’t get automatic Champions League group stage they will become Sevco.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Butterbean1874 said: So do u want him to stay until the end of season? What if hearts play Rangers in the cup weather it be final or not & JS is playing against us & we could’ve prevented this sometimes I think we’re just to much of a soft touch GET THE DEAL DONE!!! I think it'll be a paid loan rather than a transfer - that would save Rangers increasing his wages between now and May. We could include a clause that prevents him being played against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 My gut tells me he is away after not playing in scottish cup game, hopefully by early next week. Then we can all focus on Hearts and our best interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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