Sooperstar Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hamilton is a jammy *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 woooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Safety car alrady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 bottas hits norris who is then forced into verstappen then bottas slides into perez. that will have secured bottas a new contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 race red flagged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Sometimes you’re as well being lucky than good. Hamilton is obviously very good, he is also very lucky. He’ll go into the summer break in the lead after looking like being seriously challenged. What Horner will have to say is anyone’s guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I have never seen that before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hamilton 😂😂😂 Watch him blame his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 it was his decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, Sooperstar said: Hamilton 😂😂😂 Watch him blame his team. He’ll make his way through with that car. He’s got the whole race to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 hahaha shambles from mercedes/hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 What a mistake from Mercedes or Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 someone should be getting a penalty for a dangerous release that has knocked out mazepin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said: What a mistake from Mercedes or Hamilton. The Team had the tyres out. Hamilton's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: The Team had the tyres out. Hamilton's choice. Then a huge mistake from Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, milky_26 said: someone should be getting a penalty for a dangerous release that has knocked out mazepin its raikkonen who was released into mazepin, braking mazepins front suspension. clear penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Quite an enjoyable race - 30 laps to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 a bit rich hamilton complaining about dangerous driving because he cant bully alonso off the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hamilton greeting his eyes out about dangerous high speed manoeuvres 😂 Who said irony is dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, The Mighty Thor said: Hamilton greeting his eyes out about dangerous high speed manoeuvres 😂 Who said irony is dead? did you see the penalty giovionazzo got for speeding in the pit lane? 10 second stop and go. so according to the stewards speeding in the pit lane is worse than a dangerous release (raikkonen) or hamilton pushing verstappen into the wall at 200 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Really pleased for Ocon - Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, Bigsmak said: Really pleased for Ocon - Well done! yep, got the lead held it well even under pressure from vettel. very good solid drive from ocon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, milky_26 said: yep, got the lead held it well even under pressure from vettel. very good solid drive from ocon Not that we seen any of it on the telly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Lewis looks like he was about to collapse on the podium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Hamilton greeting his eyes out about dangerous high speed manoeuvres 😂 Who said irony is dead? Not the least bit surprised by this 29 minutes ago, milky_26 said: did you see the penalty giovionazzo got for speeding in the pit lane? 10 second stop and go. so according to the stewards speeding in the pit lane is worse than a dangerous release (raikkonen) or hamilton pushing verstappen into the wall at 200 mph Just making it up as they go along 🤡 23 minutes ago, Bigsmak said: Really pleased for Ocon - Well done! A great drive and win, under do much pressure, but held his composure throughout, thoroughly deserved. A well played team drive from Alonso 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bigsmak said: Not that we seen any of it on the telly! One car driving a second and a half behind another car; round, and round, and round...? I can understand them not showing it when there was some competition for places further down the track. Bizarre at the end when O'Con went past the pit lane and had to jog back. Did anyone ask him what was going on? I like to think it was the sheer exuberance of having his maiden win and just enjoying himself - he deserved it. Even though Wolff apologised, Horner couldn't be a little bit gracious ("is he going to pay for the damage?). Sets things up for a great second half of the season, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Vettel disqualified. Not enough fuel left in his car. Has to be a litre available to draw out. There was only 0.3 of a litre. More points for Hamilton. Rules are rules, but the last 2 races have been very lucky for him. The Red Bull team must have broken a few mirrors recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron78 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) You couldn't make it up. Just give Hamilton the title now. Another couple of years at Mercedes with an average 2nd driver in Bottas will give him his 10th title. I'm fighting a losing battle against the stats but I genuinely don't think Hamilton is as talented as greats like Senna, Schumacher, Lauda, Stewart etc. It doesn't help that each season has more races than in the past but also just that pure racing skill has been replaced by technology to some extent... Edited August 1, 2021 by Aaron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Aaron78 said: You couldn't make it up. Just give Hamilton the title now. Another couple of years at Mercedes with an average 2nd driver in Bottas will give him his 10th title. I'm fighting a losing battle against the stats but I genuinely don't think Hamilton is as talented as greats like Senna, Schumacher, Lauda, Stewart etc. It doesn't help that each season has more races than in the past but also just that pure racing skill has been replaced by technology to some extent... It's a question. Suppose you could say the same about Vettel and many more. I did think today Verstappen would have passed Alonso. Hamilton has got the pace in the car now so it's going to be hard to stop No 8. Not bad to make 101 pole positions and win 99 races being a mediocre driver though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Vettel disqualified. Not enough fuel left in his car. Has to be a litre available to draw out. There was only 0.3 of a litre. More points for Hamilton. Rules are rules, but the last 2 races have been very lucky for him. The Red Bull team must have broken a few mirrors recently. I don't like Vettel; never have. BUT I feel so sorry for him with this one and wish that the other drivers and teams would just say, "haud oan, FFS! How has he actually gained an advantage here?" Hamilton, the prick, might argue that that 1kg would have brought him closer and given him a chance of second but there's no way he'd have passed Vettel. Desperately unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hamilton is the GOAT no doubt about it. Schumacher you say? He had the best tech in the business. Often illegal. But MS' cars were far beyond the dominance of this Mercedes. Senna you say? Check the win percentages. Good few seasons left, LH' records will stand longer than you or I will live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Aaron78 said: You couldn't make it up. Just give Hamilton the title now. Another couple of years at Mercedes with an average 2nd driver in Bottas will give him his 10th title. I'm fighting a losing battle against the stats but I genuinely don't think Hamilton is as talented as greats like Senna, Schumacher, Lauda, Stewart etc. It doesn't help that each season has more races than in the past but also just that pure racing skill has been replaced by technology to some extent... 5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It's a question. Suppose you could say the same about Vettel and many more. I did think today Verstappen would have passed Alonso. Hamilton has got the pace in the car now so it's going to be hard to stop No 8. Not bad to make 101 pole positions and win 99 races being a mediocre driver though. I think the guy is an incredible driver, but not keen on him outside the car. I’ve always had the impression that a lot of the things he says seem scripted and not being honest. I know someone who works on his car and they don’t like him either, plus quite a few back at the factory. He can quite easily be argued as the greatest ever, but I’d take Senna every time against him in a head to head. I would have loved to have seen how Hamilton handled the cars back then. The Greatest for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Vettel disqualified. Not enough fuel left in his car. Has to be a litre available to draw out. There was only 0.3 of a litre. More points for Hamilton. Rules are rules, but the last 2 races have been very lucky for him. The Red Bull team must have broken a few mirrors recently. Under appeal - tough one though after a great drive today. This season keeps on getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 F1 Sucks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phage said: Hamilton is the GOAT no doubt about it. Schumacher you say? He had the best tech in the business. Often illegal. But MS' cars were far beyond the dominance of this Mercedes. Senna you say? Check the win percentages. Good few seasons left, LH' records will stand longer than you or I will live. No doubt about it...in your head, that’s all. You can’t prove who is the greatest, because it’s across different generations. Your MS statement that he had the best tech, is a bit of a silly argument to use in favour of Hamilton being the greatest. Are you saying that Hamilton has not had the best tech for championship wins. Hamilton was beaten by one of the poorest F1 champions (Nico Rosberg) in an equal car imo (which again was the best tech) Rosberg who was a teammate with both drivers and should know more than us said... he feels Lewis Hamilton isn’t quite the “complete” driver that Michael Schumacher was in his Formula 1 career. Hamilton has never had to endure the physical demands on the body that drivers of past generations like Fangio, Senna, Clark, Stewart, etc had to within a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: F1 Sucks!!! Like this comment😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Under appeal - tough one though after a great drive today. This season keeps on getting better. Set up to be one of the best, hopefully carries on like this to the very last race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: It's a question. Suppose you could say the same about Vettel and many more. I did think today Verstappen would have passed Alonso. Hamilton has got the pace in the car now so it's going to be hard to stop No 8. Not bad to make 101 pole positions and win 99 races being a mediocre driver though. the damage to verstappens car (again caused by a mercedes) cost him massively, he probably lacked a lot of downforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: No doubt about it...in your head, that’s all. You can’t prove who is the greatest, because it’s across different generations. Your MS statement that he had the best tech, is a bit of a silly argument to use in favour of Hamilton being the greatest. Are you saying that Hamilton has not had the best tech for championship wins. Hamilton was beaten by one of the poorest F1 champions (Nico Rosberg) in an equal car imo (which again was the best tech) Rosberg who was a teammate with both drivers and should know more than us said... he feels Lewis Hamilton isn’t quite the “complete” driver that Michael Schumacher was in his Formula 1 career. Hamilton has never had to endure the physical demands on the body that drivers of past generations like Fangio, Senna, Clark, Stewart, etc had to within a race. I guess it is just in my head. Like every record/stat/metric that clearly show LH is the best driver in the history of F1. My MS statement point towards the overwhelming evidence that for large parts of his career, not only did he have the best car but that car had illegal traction control and whatever else they could jam in there against the regs. And its unbelievable you'd cited Rosberg for anything Hamilton related. Nico was tormented and humiliated by LH from junior karting to the top of F1. There rivalry was so bitter it was causing deep embarrassment to Mercedes. Was painful to watch his struggle against the Lewis domination. So much so Nico had to throw every dirty trick in the book and Mercedes colluded with him to win him the title with the agreement he'd gtf outta the team there after. And so it happened, he reached the top of the mountain lol Adjust points, adjust the poles for increased number of races. Do whatever you want, Lewis is the best F1 has ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I see Bottas has a 5 place grid penalty for next race after causing the big crash at the start. Seems lenient again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: I see Bottas has a 5 place grid penalty for next race after causing the big crash at the start. Seems lenient again. i agree that is a bit lenient but it is what i expected. i would also assume stroll will get the same for taking out leclerc on that opening lap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i agree that is a bit lenient but it is what i expected. i would also assume stroll will get the same for taking out leclerc on that opening lap That'll be for Spa which often has a bit of a stramash at the first corner. Good idea to put 5 more cars ahead of each of them so that there's more folk for them to wallop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: That'll be for Spa which often has a bit of a stramash at the first corner. Good idea to put 5 more cars ahead of each of them so that there's more folk for them to wallop Yes. Bottas had lost about 5 places when he hit Norris so he's in the perfect position to knock out Perez again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossaldinho Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Phage said: I guess it is just in my head. Like every record/stat/metric that clearly show LH is the best driver in the history of F1. My MS statement point towards the overwhelming evidence that for large parts of his career, not only did he have the best car but that car had illegal traction control and whatever else they could jam in there against the regs. And its unbelievable you'd cited Rosberg for anything Hamilton related. Nico was tormented and humiliated by LH from junior karting to the top of F1. There rivalry was so bitter it was causing deep embarrassment to Mercedes. Was painful to watch his struggle against the Lewis domination. So much so Nico had to throw every dirty trick in the book and Mercedes colluded with him to win him the title with the agreement he'd gtf outta the team there after. And so it happened, he reached the top of the mountain lol Adjust points, adjust the poles for increased number of races. Do whatever you want, Lewis is the best F1 has ever seen. You can't dispute how good a driver he is, you don't just stumble into 7 world titles across your career but saying he is the best F1 has ever seen is down to opinion. You can't possibly compare him to the likes of Clark, Fangio, Stewart and so on because of how much it has changed, and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, rossaldinho said: You can't dispute how good a driver he is, you don't just stumble into 7 world titles across your career but saying he is the best F1 has ever seen is down to opinion. You can't possibly compare him to the likes of Clark, Fangio, Stewart and so on because of how much it has changed, and vice versa. It's like comparing footballers across generations.. You really can't. Hamilton has so much more support than any of the old drivers. He has modern health monitoring, dietitians, trainers, better telemetry into the team. Better everything. The drivers from 40 years ago were winging it a lot of the times. Some of them probably helped build the Bears between races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, rossaldinho said: You can't dispute how good a driver he is, you don't just stumble into 7 world titles across your career but saying he is the best F1 has ever seen is down to opinion. You can't possibly compare him to the likes of Clark, Fangio, Stewart and so on because of how much it has changed, and vice versa. i would also suggest that there was less of a difference between the cars back then rather than at least until this season where the mercedes was so far ahead of everyone. that is the reason i rule out MS as the greatest as for most of his career he had the best car, maybe with the exception of his benneton days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Phage said: I guess it is just in my head. Like every record/stat/metric that clearly show LH is the best driver in the history of F1. My MS statement point towards the overwhelming evidence that for large parts of his career, not only did he have the best car but that car had illegal traction control and whatever else they could jam in there against the regs. And its unbelievable you'd cited Rosberg for anything Hamilton related. Nico was tormented and humiliated by LH from junior karting to the top of F1. There rivalry was so bitter it was causing deep embarrassment to Mercedes. Was painful to watch his struggle against the Lewis domination. So much so Nico had to throw every dirty trick in the book and Mercedes colluded with him to win him the title with the agreement he'd gtf outta the team there after. And so it happened, he reached the top of the mountain lol Adjust points, adjust the poles for increased number of races. Do whatever you want, Lewis is the best F1 has ever seen. The thing that’s unbelievable is that the so called greatest (only in your opinion) was beaten by one of the poorest on an equal footing, yet you say he was cheated. Where are all your records/stats/metrics to back that up. Lewis has also benefited himself from cheating. 1 hour ago, rossaldinho said: You can't dispute how good a driver he is, you don't just stumble into 7 world titles across your career but saying he is the best F1 has ever seen is down to opinion. You can't possibly compare him to the likes of Clark, Fangio, Stewart and so on because of how much it has changed, and vice versa. Correct, it’s an incredible achievement by Lewis, like the achievements of the above were in their era. 19 minutes ago, Bigsmak said: It's like comparing footballers across generations.. You really can't. Hamilton has so much more support than any of the old drivers. He has modern health monitoring, dietitians, trainers, better telemetry into the team. Better everything. The drivers from 40 years ago were winging it a lot of the times. Some of them probably helped build the Bears between races. Correct, you can’t. You can only have your own favourite. 15 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i would also suggest that there was less of a difference between the cars back then rather than at least until this season where the mercedes was so far ahead of everyone. that is the reason i rule out MS as the greatest as for most of his career he had the best car, maybe with the exception of his benneton days MS did have the far superior car for most of his championships, but Hamilton has had this too, like a number of champions throughout the generations. Senna fought with every sinew in his body to beat MS in that Benetton, and he went to his grave convinced that they were cheating, which they were. Edited August 2, 2021 by luckyBatistuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 19 hours ago, Bigsmak said: Really pleased for Ocon - Well done! Seems to be one of the nicest guys on the circuit. Yep, well done to the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Busby8 said: Seems to be one of the nicest guys on the circuit. Yep, well done to the lad. Also more like Lewis Hamilton in coming from a more humble background unlike most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Phage said: Hamilton is the GOAT no doubt about it. Schumacher you say? He had the best tech in the business. Often illegal. But MS' cars were far beyond the dominance of this Mercedes. Senna you say? Check the win percentages. Good few seasons left, LH' records will stand longer than you or I will live. Hamilton is a decent driver in a phenomenally good car. A car that has been so far ahead of everything else on the grid for the last 5 years. Mind that time when George Russell jumped in Hamilton's car (which he'd never driven before) when LH had covid? missed pole by milliseconds and was absolutely pissing the race until the Mercedes team 'accidentally' put Bottas' tyres on? That's how good the Mercedes has been. Put it this way if Verstappen & Hamilton were in identical cars, Hamilton finishes second. All IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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