Hashimoto Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Job done! Cheerio Robbie Neilson Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Fingers crossed he is away soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 If he resigns now he can go with some self respect intact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Last time we were in the Diddy League: Win ratio: 80.55% Points per game: 2.53 Big Cup: put out by Celtic in 3rd round Wee Cup: put out by Celtic in 4th round This year (so far): Win ratio: 62.5% Points per game: 2.08 Big Cup: put out by Brora Rangers in 2nd round Wee Cup: put out by Alloa in 2nd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Cade said: Last time we were in the Diddy League: Win ratio: 80.55% Points per game: 2.53 Big Cup: put out by Celtic in 3rd round Wee Cup: put out by Celtic in 4th round This year (so far): Win ratio: 62.5% Points per game: 2.08 Big Cup: put out by Brora Rangers in 2nd round Wee Cup: put out by Alloa in 2nd round I'd caveat that by adding that in 2014 the league included Rangers, the vermin, an OK Livingston side and a decent Falkirk side. This season it was just full of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Le Chat said: I'd caveat that by adding that in 2014 the league included Rangers, the vermin, an OK Livingston side and a decent Falkirk side. This season it was just full of shite. Correct. And in 14/15 we didn't have two pennies to rub together. This year was the result of years of multi million pound investment by the fans. Edited April 10, 2021 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarnbeejambo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 from the moment we were relegated gaining promotion was the priority..so from that prospective we have achieved what we set out to do.. however... robbie has totally, due to his ill advised comments.. lost the support.. when this happens there is only going to be one winner. fans are the constant.. managers chairmen/ women are temporary. so thank you robbie but its time to say goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Ooohh an exciting new angle on a re-imagined question. More of this originality please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 There was definitely a need for this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Tambo_The_Jambo said: This guy overseen the worst result in our history.....is he away yet? 👀 Safest job in football Took him until our last competitive game to play players in their proper position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORGIE MONK Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Robbie is probably a nice guy. Rubbish manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 This thread should not be off the first page until he’s gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) I’m going to try and play pros and cons here. In such a divisive world some balance is needed. Pros: 1. We know that the team Robbie put together after Budge/Levein cleared the decks on Budgement Day he, and the recruitment team around him, put together a team that played exciting attacking football for 3/4s of his first season in a much tougher league than this season’s Championship 2. First season back we got 3rd, started with 5 wins on the trot but played kind of stagnated football at times as the season wore on. However as a young manager in only his 2nd season in charge of a massive team this was a really decent result. People can play revisionism all they want but I do remember people on here saying that consolidation in our first season back would be acceptable. 3. The football seemed to get more turgid next season yet we stayed high up the league and games in hand or not he left us second. His last two games he tweaked the formation and we had Djoum and Bjorn in particular playing fantastically well in wins which included Rangers. 4. He gets the job done - however badly or disappointly or boringly we quite rightly think - and he will still have one of the best statistical records of our managers. 5. Somehow this season our play and performance against the 2nd and 3rd teams in the SPL in the cup not only matched them but bettered them (IMO) Cons: 6. Some of our worst results in our history have happened under his watch 7. He seems to be good in pre-season as we generally start well under him but he can’t keep that momentum going 8. Either he is playing a shite style of football or he is playing a style of football he doesn’t realise our players cannot play 9. He has bottled out of youth this season in the one season we should really have tried to push on with that - not the majority of the team but introducing players, particularly when the team was floundering but still in control of the league. 10. Because of 8 and 9 around 80% of our performances been absolutely gash. Generally if we perform gash but the players are busting a gut and we are winning 75% of games then we can handle that - but we haven’t. 11. There are huge question marks over why he hasn’t been able to motivate the players or get a reaction. One player we brought in moved up a league, performed better and said to the media the “shackles had been removed”. 12. He seemed fairly savvy with the media first time round - he has spoken pish this time round. 13. It still seems he sets us up too much with the other team in mind rather than stamp an identity on our team and let the other team worry about us. 14. Despite poor form AND performances he didn’t work out a fix. He occasionally “through on an extra striker” so that we had 2 up top 😱 but even in our decent performances this season the game against Alloa was the only game we looked fitter and faster than our opponents. 15. What happened to our double and triple training - we may have prohibitions due to Covid I don’t know, but why change or drop that? Summary: We can get better. Neil would be better. McInnes would have the fans up in arms after 8 games max. Neislon, however, can also be better IMO. If we can get a serious manager in with good experience outside Scotland like Neil we should get him - particularly with Savage here. My question (unanswered) is we all know Robbie can do better (and has done). The question is - can he do better with the new structure around him? How good is Savage - and how much influence does he have? We have to be prepared for Robbie to be here next season and if so we have to work out how we support that - because without our support it might be carnage. Edited April 11, 2021 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingAboutObua Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 19:38, Le Chat said: I'd caveat that by adding that in 2014 the league included Rangers, the vermin, an OK Livingston side and a decent Falkirk side. This season it was just full of shite. Absolutely, 2 part time teams in the league Morton are awful And of our supposed title challengers both Dunfermline and Dundee have collapsed Ayr were meant to be top 5 and have bumbled and stumbled into relegation playoff contention throughout the season Inverness lost 2 months of game time and John Robertson had to go on compassionate leave Only Raith and QotS have had unexpectedly good seasons, and Queens that's down to the last 3 months. This is comfortably the weakest championship since it began and we've made it look very hard work at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 No fan will ever forget brora No fan will ever forget alloa No fan will ever forget birkirkara And no fan will ever forget losing to hibs after being 2-0 up at home the season they won the cup. He has too much against him now, unless he gets us 3rd and a trophy next season, he will never be forgiven, I can't see that happening, so why bother giving him money to spunk away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Is he gone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May one-six Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I’m going to try and play pros and cons here. In such a divisive world some balance is needed. Pros: 1. We know that the team Robbie put together after Budge/Levein cleared the decks on Budgement Day he, and the recruitment team around him, put together a team that played exciting attacking football for 3/4s of his first season in a much tougher league than this season’s Championship 2. First season back we got 3rd, started with 5 wins on the trot but played kind of stagnated football at times as the season wore on. However as a young manager in only his 2nd season in charge of a massive team this was a really decent result. People can play revisionism all they want but I do remember people on here saying that consolidation in our first season back would be acceptable. 3. The football seemed to get more turgid next season yet we stayed high up the league and games in hand or not he left us second. His last two games he tweaked the formation and we had Djoum and Bjorn in particular playing fantastically well in wins which included Rangers. 4. He gets the job done - however badly or disappointly or boringly we quite rightly think - and he will still have one of the best statistical records of our managers. 5. Somehow this season our play and performance against the 2nd and 3rd teams in the SPL in the cup not only matched them but bettered them (IMO) Cons: 6. Some of our worst results in our history have happened under his watch 7. He seems to be good in pre-season as we generally start well under him but he can’t keep that momentum going 8. Either he is playing a shite style of football or he is playing a style of football he doesn’t realise our players cannot play 9. He has bottled out of youth this season in the one season we should really have tried to push on with that - not the majority of the team but introducing players, particularly when the team was floundering but still in control of the league. 10. Because of 8 and 9 around 80% of our performances been absolutely gash. Generally if we perform gash but the players are busting a gut and we are winning 75% of games then we can handle that - but we haven’t. 11. There are huge question marks over why he hasn’t been able to motivate the players or get a reaction. One player we brought in moved up a league, performed better and said to the media the “shackles had been removed”. 12. He seemed fairly savvy with the media first time round - he has spoken pish this time round. 13. It still seems he sets us up too much with the other team in mind rather than stamp an identity on our team and let the other team worry about us. 14. Despite poor form AND performances he didn’t work out a fix. He occasionally “through on an extra striker” so that we had 2 up top 😱 but even in our decent performances this season the game against Alloa was the only game we looked fitter and faster than our opponents. 15. What happened to our double and triple training - we may have prohibitions due to Covid I don’t know, but why change or drop that? Summary: We can get better. Neil would be better. McInnes would have the fans up in arms after 8 games max. Neislon, however, can also be better IMO. If we can get a serious manager in with good experience outside Scotland like Neil we should get him - particularly with Savage here. My question (unanswered) is we all know Robbie can do better (and has done). The question is - can he do better with the new structure around him? How good is Savage - and how much influence does he have? We have to be prepared for Robbie to be here next season and if so we have to work out how we support that - because without our support it might be carnage. Pretty reasonable summary. For what it's worth, I believe Robbie will be our manager at the start of the season, no matter how often or passionately some JKB regulars bump their gums. I also believe that results are the bottom line. There it's a mixed bag - he's done well in the league and God awful in the cups (apart from this year's Hibs and Celtic games). Assuming he's staying he needs to continue the league record and make drastic improvements in the cup competitions. One last thing, I am not sure how Alex Neil is guaranteed to be better. People seem to be allocating powers to him that are not borne out by his track record. When you're bringing in a manager at our level the only guarantee is that there's no guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: 5. Somehow this season our play and performance against the 2nd and 3rd teams in the SPL in the cup not only matched them but bettered them (IMO) This is the thing that baffles me about this season. The second half in the Cup final especially, albeit against a Celtic team that were struggling at the time. My question is was that more about the players being determined to go and prove a point? Or about the manager's tactics? My recollection of the Cup final was that we were far too defensive first half and were well beaten. Only when we went at them in the second half did that change. Extra time was effectively a repeat of the same. Our tactics seemed to be to sit in and hope for penalties when Celtic were there for the taking. My conclusion is that we have some good players who can play well if they are allowed to go out and express themselves. But the manager is too cautious and doesn't give the players enough freedom. And while it is easy to motivate players for games against Hibs and Celtic, Robbie isn't able to get them up for run of the mill league games or Cup ties against Alloa and Brora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScandinavianJambo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 15:49, Brighton Jambo said: I tend to agree but fans are notoriously fickle. If we win the first 5 league games of next season including say an away win at Easter road it won’t be so clear cut. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: This is the thing that baffles me about this season. The second half in the Cup final especially, albeit against a Celtic team that were struggling at the time. My question is was that more about the players being determined to go and prove a point? Or about the manager's tactics? My recollection of the Cup final was that we were far too defensive first half and were well beaten. Only when we went at them in the second half did that change. Extra time was effectively a repeat of the same. Our tactics seemed to be to sit in and hope for penalties when Celtic were there for the taking. My conclusion is that we have some good players who can play well if they are allowed to go out and express themselves. But the manager is too cautious and doesn't give the players enough freedom. And while it is easy to motivate players for games against Hibs and Celtic, Robbie isn't able to get them up for run of the mill league games or Cup ties against Alloa and Brora. Hearts have now become known for not winning enough matches v the likes of St Johnstone, Killie etc...home or away for what is verging on seasons now. We used to have records v those clubs where they couldn’t buy a win when they played us. That’s been slowly turned around. Our previous managers always knew these were key matches where 3 points was crucial and the building blocks to a strong season. If you collect most of the points against teams regarded as ones you should be beating, the points won in bigger games tend to be more telling in the context of the season when you push for the top 3. Recently, putting in a good performance or winning v the old firm or Hibs has looked more like Hearts “getting up for it” than a sign of a team you came to expect that particular performance from. Recent Hearts teams have lacked the humility v these clubs. We’ve not nearly had the right attitude or determination to show we should and can be better than them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 ST sales will force Boards hand. I’ve bought 5 for many years. 39 years plus for me. One next season for my 11 yo - and he cannot stand the football on offer but it’s time with his mates he enjoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: ST sales will force Boards hand. I’ve bought 5 for many years. 39 years plus for me. One next season for my 11 yo - and he cannot stand the football on offer but it’s time with his mates he enjoys. I think they are hoping the desperation to get back to the football post the covid shutout will mask the situation. they may be right, either way it probably won’t end well for neilson. Empty stadium and it doesn’t end well but a full stadium could see him hounded. I’m not sure what he could do to rebuild that trust. I wish he would just go and he will secure a job at another club. It shouldn’t need to end in him being chased out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On a side note I heard on one of the podcasts that at 2-0 up against Alloa Neilson tried to change the shape back to 4-2-3-1 before LM stopped him. Whilst I can’t vouch for the validity of this, I do believe it. And if it’s true - it absolutely sums up everything wrong with Robbie Neilson. The guy just doesn’t get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 9 hours ago, SomethingAboutObua said: Absolutely, 2 part time teams in the league Morton are awful And of our supposed title challengers both Dunfermline and Dundee have collapsed Ayr were meant to be top 5 and have bumbled and stumbled into relegation playoff contention throughout the season Inverness lost 2 months of game time and John Robertson had to go on compassionate leave Only Raith and QotS have had unexpectedly good seasons, and Queens that's down to the last 3 months. This is comfortably the weakest championship since it began and we've made it look very hard work at times. And on top of that Neilson was like the cat that found the cream when he was interviewed after the game on Sportscene . He also had a wee go at pundits that had criticised him who in my opinion had been very light compared to what our support are saying about him. Yes he gave the impression that the 6-0 win over the mighty Alloa Athletic had shown all his critics that his job is safe and he’ll be improving the squad in the summer. I actually thought he was being quite cocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said: No fan will ever forget brora No fan will ever forget alloa No fan will ever forget birkirkara And no fan will ever forget losing to hibs after being 2-0 up at home the season they won the cup. He has too much against him now, unless he gets us 3rd and a trophy next season, he will never be forgiven, I can't see that happening, so why bother giving him money to spunk away? Exactly this! If we let this guy have another chunky budget, then what a bloody waste of our money, he needs to be gone very soon otherwise the season ticket money will not go very far this summer, and in a summer when it needs to go far as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Hearts have now become known for not winning enough matches v the likes of St Johnstone, Killie etc...home or away for what is verging on seasons now. We used to have records v those clubs where they couldn’t buy a win when they played us. That’s been slowly turned around. Our previous managers always knew these were key matches where 3 points was crucial and the building blocks to a strong season. If you collect most of the points against teams regarded as ones you should be beating, the points won in bigger games tend to be more telling in the context of the season when you push for the top 3. Recently, putting in a good performance or winning v the old firm or Hibs has looked more like Hearts “getting up for it” than a sign of a team you came to expect that particular performance from. Recent Hearts teams have lacked the humility v these clubs. We’ve not nearly had the right attitude or determination to show we should and can be better than them. I think this is where Aberdeen have got it right over the last few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I think they are hoping the desperation to get back to the football post the covid shutout will mask the situation. they may be right, either way it probably won’t end well for neilson. Empty stadium and it doesn’t end well but a full stadium could see him hounded. I’m not sure what he could do to rebuild that trust. I wish he would just go and he will secure a job at another club. It shouldn’t need to end in him being chased out the door. The fact that there hasn't been anything posted on hearts website about him talking about winning the league (or any mention of it other than one tweet) shows the club knows the fans aren't behind him. Really struggling to see it ending well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashimoto Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: ST sales will force Boards hand. I’ve bought 5 for many years. 39 years plus for me. One next season for my 11 yo - and he cannot stand the football on offer but it’s time with his mates he enjoys. And that should be the catalyst that forces through change. Does Ann Budge gamble with fans loyalty, or does she listen to her paying public? My conundrum is that I don't want to pay to watch another season of dull, uninspiring football with Neilson at the helm, likewise I don't want to give up what I consider to be a prime viewing seat, and at the same time I don't want to find myself isolated on my own once my mates have decided that enough is enough. If Neilson has gone it is likely that me and my 4 mates will renew our ST's. In other words, business as usual. If he stays. I doubt I can renew because my mates most definitely won't. Some on here say "fans are fickle"...Well I disagree!...We are Hearts fans who have suffered these past 5 years. What is fickle about that ? No one, apart from the most ardent Neilson fan will ever forget, or forgive the most ignominious result in the the history of HMFC. Finally....I am really desperate like the vast majority to get back into Tynecastle.....Ann Budge is forcing me and my mates into making a decision we didn't want to, or should have had to make. Neilson Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: On a side note I heard on one of the podcasts that at 2-0 up against Alloa Neilson tried to change the shape back to 4-2-3-1 before LM stopped him. Whilst I can’t vouch for the validity of this, I do believe it. And if it’s true - it absolutely sums up everything wrong with Robbie Neilson. The guy just doesn’t get it True or not you can’t kid a kidder. Neilson is just not good enough and the only people who don’t know that are Ann Budge and Neilson himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Hashimoto said: And that should be the catalyst that forces through change. Does Ann Budge gamble with fans loyalty, or does she listen to her paying public? My conundrum is that I don't want to pay to watch another season of dull, uninspiring football with Neilson at the helm, likewise I don't want to give up what I consider to be a prime viewing seat, and at the same time I don't want to find myself isolated on my own once my mates have decided that enough is enough. If Neilson has gone it is likely that me and my 4 mates will renew our ST's. In other words, business as usual. If he stays. I doubt I can renew because my mates most definitely won't. Some on here say "fans are fickle"...Well I disagree!...We are Hearts fans who have suffered these past 5 years. What is fickle about that ? No one, apart from the most ardent Neilson fan will ever forget, or forgive the most ignominious result in the the history of HMFC. Finally....I am really desperate like the vast majority to get back into Tynecastle.....Ann Budge is forcing me and my mates into making a decision we didn't want to, or should have had to make. Neilson Out Exactly I will renew if there a change at both Boardroom and Managerial level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds66 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Exactly I will renew if there a change at both Boardroom and Managerial level. About where I am at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Pressley on bogging up his pal on SSN , signed 13 players but not signed the players he needs to play HIGH OCTANE FOOTBALL 😱🤷🏾♂️🤔🙈? NURSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Pressley on bogging up his pal on SSN , signed 13 players but not signed the players he needs to play HIGH OCTANE FOOTBALL 😱🤷🏾♂️🤔🙈? NURSE. He said this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I think this is where Aberdeen have got it right over the last few seasons. hearts have become Aberdeen from 1990 to 2012. Only we have managed to hit lower lows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 16:25, ToqueJambo said: I'd just rather we give Neilson next season to build his team and see if he can replicate the good starts he got to seasons the last time he managed us in the Premiership and take it from there. After the fan handover and perhaps a change in leadership (as I'm not convinced Budge has the stomach for this much longer, and I wouldn't blame her) then we can find a new manager for people to boo after the first run of bad results. If you get a run of bad results you’re going to get it in the neck from fans. That’s the same at every other football club. If you can’t stop that bad run of results or there is no confidence that you can, you are losing the job. Again that’s the same at every other club. Ask Mourinho who’s going to last about another fortnight if he’s lucky and that’s a CL winning manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: He said this? Just watched it again, not entirely sure why he’s the go to guy for everyone to talk about Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I’m just getting this horrible feeling that he’s going to be around next season. Budge and her acolytes have their collective head in the sand and will make every excuse needed to justify poor ST sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: If you get a run of bad results you’re going to get it in the neck from fans. That’s the same at every other football club. If you can’t stop that bad run of results or there is no confidence that you can, you are losing the job. Again that’s the same at every other club. Ask Mourinho who’s going to last about another fortnight if he’s lucky and that’s a CL winning manager. Indeed, it happened with Stendel and was supported by the same folk that defend Neilson and did so with Levein also 🤔🤷🏾♂️🙈?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said: No fan will ever forget brora No fan will ever forget alloa No fan will ever forget birkirkara And no fan will ever forget losing to hibs after being 2-0 up at home the season they won the cup. He has too much against him now, unless he gets us 3rd and a trophy next season, he will never be forgiven, I can't see that happening, so why bother giving him money to spunk away? Nonesense. Lots of fans will. Lots of fans already have. A select few won't forget about past results, most will move forward whoever the manager is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Pressley on bogging up his pal on SSN , signed 13 players but not signed the players he needs to play HIGH OCTANE FOOTBALL 😱🤷🏾♂️🤔🙈? NURSE. No way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Nonesense. Lots of fans will. Lots of fans already have. A select few won't forget about past results, most will move forward whoever the manager is. How are you getting a select few? Most won't move forward if Neilson is still the manager. Threads on here have shown that. The majority of fans aren't going to accept the status quo regarding the coaching staff. You'll disagree but we'll see how fans react if he is still here. You actually think that those wanting him gone are in the minority? Not a chance. He is gone or our club suffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: No way I was already aghast that he was on but to come out with that 😱🙈!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: How are you getting a select few? Most won't move forward if Neilson is still the manager. Threads on here have shown that. The majority of fans aren't going to accept the status quo regarding the coaching staff. You'll disagree but we'll see how fans react if he is still here. You actually think that those wanting him gone are in the minority? Not a chance. He is gone or our club suffers. I agree. No way back for RN. If fans were in the stadium he would already be gone. My guess is that he will be kept on, but will be forced out early in the new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, McCrae said: I agree. No way back for RN. If fans were in the stadium he would already be gone. My guess is that he will be kept on, but will be forced out early in the new season. And we write another season off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Nonesense. Lots of fans will. Lots of fans already have. A select few won't forget about past results, most will move forward whoever the manager is. I've never been in the "Robbie was to blame for hibs winning the cup" camp. But his record in cup competitions is shocking. Even his biggest fans can't defend that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Bad Religion said: And we write another season off. yep... thats the danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashimoto Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: How are you getting a select few? Most won't move forward if Neilson is still the manager. Threads on here have shown that. The majority of fans aren't going to accept the status quo regarding the coaching staff. You'll disagree but we'll see how fans react if he is still here. You actually think that those wanting him gone are in the minority? Not a chance. He is gone or our club suffers. Say what you like about Srb....He's a trier! Approx 75% want the fraud gone. That clearly is indicative enough to let the board at Tynecastle know exactly the mood in the room. Now some people might argue that Jkb is not representative of the Hearts support. However, given that there is no official club forum, or even a FoH managed forum Jkb is the only real representation that the fan base has! 75% across a cross section of the support are numbers that the hierarchy at Tynecastle should be worrying about. Despite what deniers like Srb say. Political straw polls conducted across a cross section of the population usually paint a true reflection of how voting will go. This poll IMO is no different. IMO....Budge will cut him loose. She has no choice....It's either Neilson, or a very large part of her customer base! Whilst I don't expect Hearts to make an announcement any time soon. I expect that a new coaching team will be in place before pre season training. Neilson Out Edited April 12, 2021 by Hashimoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, McCrae said: I agree. No way back for RN. If fans were in the stadium he would already be gone. My guess is that he will be kept on, but will be forced out early in the new season. Which probably means another season squandered due to stubbornness. Foolish keeping him on thinking a couple of signings will win us over. We need a whole new atmosphere around the club. Snide digs at the fans and neilson thinks he'll win the fans over. The external noise was aimed at us. Why not also address the fans concerns as well? He has lost it and we need to go into the new season with optimism and he isn't going to bring that. I'd like to see evidence of the majority wanting him still here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 We all know how the RN movie ends (sack) but we're stuck with the turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I’m just getting this horrible feeling that he’s going to be around next season. Budge and her acolytes have their collective head in the sand and will make every excuse needed to justify poor ST sales. The problem with Budge is that she is over loyal to the coaches, but less so to those that really matter, the fans. She has shown no affinity what so ever to us during this entire shambles which she has presided over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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