Covid protocols - ‘Govt money wanted’

[2205ian]

Game has been re-arranged to Thursday 20th August with AFC next game delayed until the Sunday. Source SPFL Website.

 

Hope the "punishment" is to follow!!

[Jumper]

1 hour ago, martinb said:

There is no way the SPFL can award the points to St. J. in case something similar happens before the first Sevco/Cellic game.

If either of those two had a Covid problem you can be garaunteed you wouldn't hear about until after that match. Put your mortgage on that.

[SpruceBringsteen]

10 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Think it’s more to do with the government firing a shot over the SPL’s bows. 

 

As it stands though Dave, "firing a shot" means Aberdeen have come out of this with a mild ticking off. Needs to be some kind of actual ramifications.

[gashauskis9]

So here’s the scenario.  Due to this game being rearranged and the inevitable fixture congestion, other games will no doubt need to be postponed or moved about as the season progresses. Imagine St Johnstone are bottom by 1 point in Feb with a game in hand and the season is ended due to another outbreak.  They end up being relegated because of these 8 Aberdeen twats going on the piss.

 

Should be a forfeit and 3-0 to St J.

[davemclaren]

4 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

 

As it stands though Dave, "firing a shot" means Aberdeen have come out of this with a mild ticking off. Needs to be some kind of actual ramifications.

You should never hit the ship when firing A shot over the bows. The SPFL should deal with Aberdeen imo. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Mundaydog said:

I thought Hearts weren’t included in the Premiership agreement. We are playing part time players guys who can’t be in a ‘bubble’ due to potential work commitments 

We’ve been allowed back into training, they’re doing it in groups of eight. Not sure what our bubble arrangements are but they should be the same surely? Only two teams are PT, Arbroath and Alloa.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Pasquale for King

[Jambof3tornado]

2 hours ago, 7628mm said:

 

Not correct if you listened to NS in the briefing. The SG stated their case but it was the SFA/SPFL that have postponed the game.

 

The SG may have forced the SFA/SPFL to make the call but that is the SFA/SPFL's job to manage their business not the SG

The spfl were saying last night game on.

 

The spfl lack leadership and direction.

[Riccarton3]

I've seen the light

[Pasquale for King]

15 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said:

So here’s the scenario.  Due to this game being rearranged and the inevitable fixture congestion, other games will no doubt need to be postponed or moved about as the season progresses. Imagine St Johnstone are bottom by 1 point in Feb with a game in hand and the season is ended due to another outbreak.  They end up being relegated because of these 8 Aberdeen twats going on the piss.

 

Should be a forfeit and 3-0 to St J.

Like Partick?

[colinmaroon]

5 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

The spfl were saying last night game on.

 

The spfl lack leadership and direction.

 

 

Are you trying to say that what the authorities said last night has changed 180 degrees today?

 

Surely, that can't happen?

 

Is Cummings advising Doncaster?

 

 

[Pasquale for King]

23 minutes ago, 2205ian said:

Game has been re-arranged to Thursday 20th August with AFC next game delayed until the Sunday. Source SPFL Website.

 

Hope the "punishment" is to follow!!

Not sure if their isolating players will be back by then 😆 

[Footballfirst]

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, maroonlegions said:

Final score just in
Nicola Sturgeon 1
Aberdeen 0

 

 

[vegas-voss]

19 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said:

So here’s the scenario.  Due to this game being rearranged and the inevitable fixture congestion, other games will no doubt need to be postponed or moved about as the season progresses. Imagine St Johnstone are bottom by 1 point in Feb with a game in hand and the season is ended due to another outbreak.  They end up being relegated because of these 8 Aberdeen twats going on the piss.

 

Should be a forfeit and 3-0 to St J.

Basically it would be **** them.As long as it does not effect Celtic or Rangers the Spfl/SFA could not give a **** about anybody and neither could the vast majority of their member clubs.

[JimKongUno]

53 minutes ago, James1874f said:

Aberdeen should be hammered for that

 

Don't think Aberdeen should get hammered but the players themselves should get the book thrown at them

[Hagar the Horrible]

4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

Well that will them called of then!

[Riccarton3]

7 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

Is there logic in this?

[2205ian]

5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Not sure if their isolating players will be back by then 😆 

They would be "free" to play in the re-arranged game on 20th, however only back training 1 or 2 days, but Peter Liewell has the game vs Celtic covered, refer below.......8 still missing

4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

Nice to see "fair play" still priority for SPFL aka CFC.

 

On reflection, probably right. Perth do not deserve possible Covid infection, can't say the same for Darkhead!

[3fingersreid]

1 hour ago, martinb said:

There is no way the SPFL can award the points to St. J. in case something similar happens before the first Sevco/Cellic game.

I was thinking more of deducting points from the sheep rather than give they other horrible *******s any points , however IF a precedent was set as you say , a little spike around rangers/celtic time it would certainly be interesting 

[Footballfirst]

1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said:

Is there logic in this?

The only logic I see is that the re-imposition of lockdown measures in Aberdeen are initially only for a week.  If they are extended, then there is a case for the later games to be postponed.

[Bazzas right boot]

The game should have been played with Aberdeen using other players, how a game can be postponed because 1 team ****ed up is beyond me. 

 

It also, again highlights the adhoc nature of the spfl's approach and the problems of just making up solutions as problems arise. 

 

 

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, 2205ian said:

They would be "free" to play in the re-arranged game on 20th, however only back training 1 or 2 days, but Peter Liewell has the game vs Celtic covered, refer below.......8 still missing

Nice to see "fair play" still priority for SPFL aka CFC.

 

On reflection, probably right. Perth do not deserve possible Covid infection, can't say the same for Darkhead!

More likely to catch something in Glasgow. Not sure how it’s safe for Hamilton to go to Aberdeen though, would hate the SG to step in again 😱😜. 

[thejts]

1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said:

Is there logic in this?

Yes both Celtic and Hamilton have representatives on the SPFL board.

[2205ian]

1 minute ago, thejts said:

Yes both Celtic and Hamilton have representatives on the SPFL board.

Excellent observation.

[Riccarton3]

4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

The only logic I see is that the re-imposition of lockdown measures in Aberdeen are initially only for a week.  If they are extended, then there is a case for the later games to be postponed.

I thought it had already been stated these players miss 3 games.

[3fingersreid]

Aren’t celtic the SPFL board in disguise 

[Footballfirst]

1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said:

I thought it had already been stated these players miss 3 games.

Yes, the players will be unavailable for 10/14 days, but the general restrictions on pubs, travel etc., only apply for a week at the moment.

[Guest]

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

[DETTY29]

1 minute ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

Football was given concessions and as usual inch and mile comes to mind.

 

 

[Mikey1874]

20 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

The only logic I see is that the re-imposition of lockdown measures in Aberdeen are initially only for a week.  If they are extended, then there is a case for the later games to be postponed.

 

My reading is tomorrow's game is postponed to allow all Aberdeen's Covid procdures to be checked and reviewed. 

 

The positive results are less an issue. Its the fact that they ignored procdures. So Scottish Government is asking what else have you ignored. 

 

If they pass the review the games will go ahead. 

Edited August 7, 2020 by Mikey1874

[davemclaren]

3 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

In case you haven’t noticed governments of all persuasions all around the world have been imposing themselves on most things recently. I think the anger is because the rules agreed with the SPFL were breached and two players may well have got covid from that. 

[vegas-voss]

2 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

They aint above the law of the land and its about time it was shown that they are not.

[Shanks]

Government should shut it down and end the embarrassment.  They’ve gave Scottish football a chance to prove they can run the game safely during the pandemic and they’ve failed a few times already.

[Riccarton3]

3 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Football was given concessions and as usual inch and mile comes to mind.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

 football is not a case of life and death (No punchline)

[Footballfirst]

2 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

 

Government is imposing itself on the whole of society.

 

Football lobbied for and was granted an exemption for elite sport/training/contact/bubbles, all subject to testing and adherence to the same controls as the rest of the population when outside their working environment.

 

Part of the general advice is groups of 8 from 3 households indoors.  Eight people from eight different households is not within the current guidelines.

 

The risk is that any infection inadvertently picked up outside football will be more likely to be transmitted because of their "work" environment.  

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

In case you haven’t noticed governments of all persuasions all around the work have been imposing themselves on most things recently. I think the anger is because the rules agreed with the SPFL were breached and two players may well have got covid from that. 

"In case you haven't noticed"..... what a wonderfully condescending  way to answer a genuine point about football.

 

Again, what are the parameters for next time?  

[Guest]

Just now, Footballfirst said:

 

Government is imposing itself on the whole of society.

 

Football lobbied for and was granted an exemption for elite sport/training/contact/bubbles, all subject to testing and adherence to the same controls as the rest of the population when outside their working environment.

 

Part of the general advice is groups of 8 from 3 households indoors.  Eight people from eight different households is not within the current guidelines.

 

The risk is that any infection inadvertently picked up outside football will be more likely to be transmitted because of their "work" environment.  

Thank you. A sensible and reasoned answer.

[Footballfirst]

1 minute ago, Fun Boaby said:

Again, what are the parameters for next time?  

 

Ask Neil Doncaster, then Nicola Sturgeon to see if they are agreed on what happens next.  If their views differ, then I think that ND will end up doing what NS says.

[Beni]

31 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said:

Is there logic in this?

 

Yeah, it means Celtic get to play Aberdeen when the Dandies have 8 players unavailable, and rack up a cricket score

Neil (a very capable guy) consulted very widely with one member of the SPFL board before coming to this conclusion.

[Shooter McGavin]

In the NBA, 343 players have been tested, 0 have tested positive.

 

Aberdeen have already had 2 confirmed and more likely to have it.

 

Sturgeon having to step in to cancel a game that Doncaster was going to sit back and let go ahead.

 

Shambles doesn’t even begin to cover it.

[Riccarton3]

11 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

Yeah, it means Celtic get to play Aberdeen when the Dandies have 8 players unavailable, and rack up a cricket score

Neil (a very capable guy) consulted very widely with one member of the SPFL board before coming to this conclusion.

Poor, Neil. He only just got the words vindicated and delighted out when the next test of his credentials appears. Harrowing times for the Chief Executive. At least Peter's got his back.

[baxterd1974]

22 minutes ago, Shanks said:

Government should shut it down and end the embarrassment.  They’ve gave Scottish football a chance to prove they can run the game safely during the pandemic and they’ve failed a few times already.

That would be a disaster for us.  We need games played, leagues completing and get out of the Championship. 

[Beast Boy]

1 hour ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

 

As it stands though Dave, "firing a shot" means Aberdeen have come out of this with a mild ticking off. Needs to be some kind of actual ramifications.

Absolutely spot on. They should be getting totally reamed for this. As it is, it’ll probably help them out.

[Beast Boy]

24 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

Ask Neil Doncaster, then Nicola Sturgeon to see if they are agreed on what happens next.  If their views differ, then I think that ND will end up doing what NS says.

She should just put a Peter Lawwell mask on. He’d happily eat dogshit if Peter told him to do it.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by Special Officer Doofy

[Don Dan]

I’m delighted and vindicated the Doncaster has once again proved to be an incompetent imbecile.

 

 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

54 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

The game should have been played with Aberdeen using other players, how a game can be postponed because 1 team ****ed up is beyond me. 

 

It also, again highlights the adhoc nature of the spfl's approach and the problems of just making up solutions as problems arise. 

 

 

 

If I was St J I'd be fuming if the game is postponed. This is all on Aberdeen. Points should be awarded to St J if Aberdeen can't fulfil a fixture through their own actions.

[davemclaren]

28 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

"In case you haven't noticed"..... what a wonderfully condescending  way to answer a genuine point about football.

 

Again, what are the parameters for next time?  

Whatever is agreed between the government and the SPFL. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

39 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Dangerous territory this. The Govt imposing themselves on football. What are then parameters for the  next time?  Is the anger of NS  because it was from a bar?  

 

The government has been shutting down nd reopening entire industries at will. They're in charge of public health. Scottish football got some special treatment and messed it up within 2 weeks.

Edited August 7, 2020 by ToqueJambo

[Guest ToqueJambo]

2 hours ago, colinmaroon said:

 

 

St Johnstone should take them to court!

 

 

 

And the SPFL. It only costs £2,500.

[Riccarton3]

10 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Absolutely spot on. They should be getting totally reamed for this. As it is, it’ll probably help them out.

Put literally everything in jeopardy and Cormack talks about relief at not forfeiting 3 points. Something wrong right there. If he had any integrity he'd allow his club to take that hit as a warning to others and also encourage utter compliance.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Riccarton3