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6 minutes ago, Jammy T said:

Anyway in the SPFL statement at 5 did they not say they were actively waiting for the final votes to conclude the process?

Exactly.

 

Result didnt go their way.

 

Shift boundaries.

 

Boundaries shifted and still didnt go their way.

 

Shift again.

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10 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

It's an Americanism. They are owned by Americans.

I thought that was Dundee United?

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Dundee could decide Dundee United’s promotion fate after a day of chaos in Scottish football.

Courier Sport understands the Dark Blues are the Championship side whose vote on the SPFL resolution to “call” the season has not yet been counted.

As a result, with the plan having been passed by Premiership, League One and League Two Clubs, Dundee now hold the power to decide whether the League’s plan succeeds or fails.

A vote in favour would see the season terminated in Scotland’s bottom three divisions, prize money distributed, and Dundee United declared Championship title winners.
A vote against will send the SPFL back to the drawing board.

The Tangerines were tonight staying tight-lipped on the situation.

However, their city rivals issued a lengthy statement in which they notably failed to confirm which way they had voted – if indeed they had at all – then called for an alternative approach.

“As we all know, clubs are struggling at the moment,” read the Dark Blues’ communique.

“The language in the current (SPFL) proposal condemns clubs to be financially worse off than they already are as we sit here today. This has been difficult to accept.

“The SPFL board and executive freely admit that they focused on the sporting merit of the proposal and did not take into consideration any financial fall out to their member clubs.

“Fundamentally, we believe that in these exceptional and uncertain times, no member club should be worse off as a result of this proposal than they are today.

“The current proposal will see member clubs cumulatively have in the region of £3.5-£4 million pounds of lost revenue.

“Amongst the member clubs there have been numerous discussions of the SPFL’s offer as well as viable, equitable proposed alternatives that could see, potentially, a neutral outcome for all clubs involved if the season cannot be finished.

“In all cases, current placement monies could be distributed to the member clubs in very short order while maintaining all SPFL obligations.

“Make no mistake; we would have to work quickly and diligently to ensure that members’ current needs are met and that the democratic process is followed, but it is achievable.”

An SPFL spokesperson added: “It is very important that clubs consider carefully the resolution and we are grateful to those clubs who have voted already.

“With the Ladbrokes Premiership and Ladbrokes Leagues One and Two divisions each having approved the resolution, we await the voting slip from the one Ladbrokes Championship club that has yet to vote.

“We will provide an update as soon as we are in a position to do so.”

The SPFL set an initial deadline of 5pm for clubs to vote.

However it is understood league rules give members 28 days to vote on resolutions – and Dundee are keen to weigh up their options.

It is believed Partick Thistle and Inverness Caley Thistle were the two Championship sides to vote against the plan.

As a result, Dundee appear to be in a position to set whichever agenda they please in negotiations with the SPFL.

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Pasquale for King
4 minutes ago, Koolkeith said:

Won’t be known immediately, but we’ll post what we have so far. Shambles. 🤦‍♂️

Absolutely. This ***** Chris McLaughlin has just said live on tv that one club in the championship haven’t voted when Dundee have stated categorically that they have and scuppered the master plan. Just got told off for swearing at the TV 🤬.

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annushorribilis III
16 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

It’s more than that. Under the proposal they drop from 6th to 7th and that’s a prize money drop of over £100k added to probably 2*2000 derby fans at roughly £25 each plus all the other spend at Easter road, plus their own fans who only walk up for derbies plus sold out hospitality and we are talking about close to £350-400k down. As I said in another post I dont get their decision to support it. 

Worse than I thought.

That's some drinks bill for a relegation party. 

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10 minutes ago, OldGorgie said:

AB thought Dumpster was open to argument. Huge mistake. As we go forward , and we will, let’s remember the scumbags who set this up.

Petrie would be pulling the strings for Celtic's benefit

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8 minutes ago, MCW1976 said:

I thought that was Dundee United?

Both are, it’s all the rage, the American Barnsley owner tried to buy us and then there’s  got Ron the con in Leith.

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This has beautifully exposed how corrupt at worst, and incompetent at best Neil Doncaster is. Hopefully he’s made enough of a mess of this for Lawell to sack him. I would love it even more if Lawell was exposed after all this too.

 

 

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Just now, Special Officer Doofy said:

This has beautifully exposed how corrupt at worst, and incompetent at best Neil Doncaster is. Hopefully he’s made enough of a mess of this for Lawell to sack him. I would love it even more if Lawell was exposed after all this too.

 

 

I think Rod Stewart has been counting the votes. It seems about as transparent as the Eurovision Song contest. 

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Footballfirst
2 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

Is Strachan still their DOF

 

I believe so. His title may be Technical Director though.

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Just now, davemclaren said:

I think Rod Stewart has been counting the votes. It seems about as transparent as the Eurovision Song contest. 


:lol:

 

being serious for a second though, it absolutely stinks of Lawell imo. From Lennon to Doncaster, this has his grubby paws all over it.

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5 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

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Surely that was just a statement to their fans, not their response to the SPFL? It doesn’t say yes or no to be fair!

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1 hour ago, Hans von Luck said:

Whenever we play any team at Tynecastle who voted against us, minimum charges apply set at say £40.00 with reduced allocation at 500.

would rather turn Tynecastle into a hostile fortress than welcome them who voted for this.

Celtic/Hibs included.

All day long, with a welcome committee to welcome them

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14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Its a normalicy in Dundee to call a pie a pay 

Peh

 

 

11 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

And anonionyinanaw... 

an an ingin ane anaw

 

 

Dundonian ex..

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14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Its a normalicy in Dundee to call a pie a pay 

Peh

 

 

11 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

And anonionyinanaw... 

an an ingin ane anaw

 

 

Dundonian ex..

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17 minutes ago, OldGorgie said:

AB thought Dumpster was open to argument. Huge mistake. As we go forward , and we will, let’s remember the scumbags who set this up.

Budgie needs to cease with the vermin dumpster love in. It’s becoming embarrassing and it’s only her that can’t see it. Wake up and listen to fans please Ann? We’ve known all along that rats will always be rats 

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21 minutes ago, Jammy T said:

Will depend on wording of resolution - but it SHOULD be it needs 75% of members not 75% of those who voted.

Agreed, but we are dealing with cheats and crooks. 

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Konrad von Carstein
14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Its a normalicy in Dundee to call a pie a pay 

Peh

 

 

11 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

And anonionyinanaw... 

an an ingin ane anaw

 

 

Dundonian ex..

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9 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

Is Strachan still their DOF

 

 

He's still there and just yesterday said the season must be played to a finish.

 

 

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Pasquale for King
1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Budgie needs to cease with the vermin dumpster love in. It’s becoming embarrassing and it’s only her that can’t see it. Wake up and listen to fans please Ann? We’ve known all along that rats will always be rats 

There someone else that’s completely taken her in, that’s quite a few now. 

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6 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:


Surely that was just a statement to their fans, not their response to the SPFL? It doesn’t say yes or no to be fair!

Yeah i would have thought there answer may have been a bit more straight forward.

 

Like “Hey bawjaws its a naw now **** off”

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2 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Peh

 

 

an an ingin ane anaw

 

 

Dundonian ex..

That's the one. 

 

Kin ae git a mince peh, an aninginaneanaw and a tenner bag. 

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2 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Budgie needs to cease with the vermin dumpster love in. It’s becoming embarrassing and it’s only her that can’t see it. Wake up and listen to fans please Ann? We’ve known all along that rats will always be rats 

It’s highlighted that she doesn’t understand football. 
“Hibs and Hearts will move up the table”

What a load of pish !!

First chance they’ve got - they have screwed us over...

I understand the actions of those near the bottom. But Hibs have acted out of pure spite. 

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1 minute ago, Cruyff said:

That's the one. 

 

Kin ae git a mince peh, an aninginaneanaw and a tenner bag. 

 

:lol:

 

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1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:


You watch, guaranteed a Celtic player ends up there on loan next season. 

Quite a few clubs willl be found to be taking the Shamrock pound.

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9 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

👍👍👍and it’s not often we do. But when we must.......

 

Well we are in agreement on this. You never know it might even happen again, although unlikely!!😂

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maroonsgotop
6 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Budgie needs to cease with the vermin dumpster love in. It’s becoming embarrassing and it’s only her that can’t see it. Wake up and listen to fans please Ann? We’ve known all along that rats will always be rats 

Hope she's already made the call

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third lanark
52 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

 

Honestly, no malice intended.

I said tight away, this was not for right now, but I kept getting quoted and asked questions.

I'll drop off tonight and leave you guys to reflect, but do take this. I personally don;t think Hearts should be relegated and have said very clearly that if the season cannot be completed, then the leagues must be reconstructed for the one season.

And do you think Partick Thistle and Stranraer should be relegated?

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SectionDJambo

At least we now know who our friends are, or in this case aren’t. What an absolutely comical stitch up. Talk about making sure you get the result you want.

And some people will still think it’s all fair and above board on the pitch too.

Scottish football is as corrupt as it comes. Any mealy mouthed sympathy for the clubs who have been shafted, like Dempster has tried to cover herself with, should be replied to with a clear and unambiguous message from Hearts saying we won’t forget.

Has any other league in Europe actually talked about relegating any of their clubs yet? 

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The Spfl have hung Dundee out to dry here . 

The fact they've not confirmed they're voting no by now probably confirms they'll be talked round to voting yes . 

Corrupt to the core 

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2 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

At least we now know who our friends are, or in this case aren’t. What an absolutely comical stitch up. Talk about making sure you get the result you want.

And some people will still think it’s all fair and above board on the pitch too.

Scottish football is as corrupt as it comes. Any mealy mouthed sympathy for the clubs who have been shafted, like Dempster has tried to cover herself with, should be replied to with a clear and unambiguous message from Hearts saying we won’t forget.

Has any other league in Europe actually talked about relegating any of their clubs yet? 

nope

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NaturalOrder74

Said they were in talks with SPL probably twisting their arm what a load of shite how can one anonymous team be shamed into voting publicly **** the lot of them

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maroonsgotop
5 minutes ago, ramrod said:

The Spfl have hung Dundee out to dry here . 

The fact they've not confirmed they're voting no by now probably confirms they'll be talked round to voting yes . 

Corrupt to the core 

this will be interpreted as no really means yes. job done. Title 8.5 to Celtic. Rod...................get the champagne back out the fridge and get it cracked open................job done     

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4 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

At least we now know who our friends are, or in this case aren’t. What an absolutely comical stitch up. Talk about making sure you get the result you want.

And some people will still think it’s all fair and above board on the pitch too.

Scottish football is as corrupt as it comes. Any mealy mouthed sympathy for the clubs who have been shafted, like Dempster has tried to cover herself with, should be replied to with a clear and unambiguous message from Hearts saying we won’t forget.

Has any other league in Europe actually talked about relegating any of their clubs yet? 

This is well pointed out. We do things completely wrong here in scotland and this is all due the incompetence of the people running the game. They can still dish out money and didnt need this stupid vote. Hearts being treated badly here and the club and its fans won't forget who voted for the coin and for us to lose 3/4 million pounds when there is actually 8 games left.i actually hate the lot of them.sny they eont ever get my money again.

We as a club need to unite again and get through this.

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1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Inverness, Partick and Dundee from the Championship have voted No. 

 

Which means the Resolution has failed to pass. 

 

But somehow the SPFL is not yet accepting that Dundee voted No. 

 

Next they'll probably send in the ultra reliable cup draw machine...........That always delivers!!

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1 minute ago, Shanks said:

If they've declined to vote then that goes down as a No.  They won't hit the 75% 

That's what I'd think 

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You have 28 days to vote but if you vote by Friday we will give you your back hander, sorry dues by Monday.

 

 

 

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Ehllhayapeh
2 hours ago, Cruyff said:

So your position is, you disagree that Celtic should be handed a Title they have not won. Yet believe Dundee Hibernian should be awarded a title they have not won.

 

Then you have a go at Dundee for stating there should be no Promotion or Relegation if games cannot be completed, which is clearly a more sensible solution if they cannot or, will not make changes to the League Structure. 

 

So in essence, you're a massive hypocrite? 🤔 

Never mentioned Celtic once

Ive said from the beginning "as is" is unfair on Hearts and Partick

No promotion/relegation is also unfair on teams at the top end and Dundee are only after the gate money from United to suggest it.

 

That leaves reconstruction which ive said im in favour of. It is the best solution possible.

 

So no im not a hypocrite at all. 

 

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