Footballfirst Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/majority-hearts-squad-agree-wage-cuts-avoid-contracts-being-suspended-2551898 Two players still holding out. Quote The majority of Hearts players have agreed to wage cuts of between 10 and 30 per cent, the Evening News can reveal. At least two are still negotiating with club owner Ann Budge as she tries to cuts costs to mitigate financial strain brought by coronavirus. Around 10 players had still to agree to salary reductions as of this morning, but most of those have since opted to accept Budge’s proposals rather than see their contracts suspended. Those who have yet to reach an agreement could push to be released from their deals and become free agents. Budge had stated she was prepared to activate Clause 12 in player contracts and suspend wages for anyone who did not accept a drop in pay. She gave a 5pm deadline today for concluding negotiations to ensure everyone who agreed would receive their new reduced amounts when monthly wages reach bank accounts on Thursday. Some players had pressed to defer a portion of money to avoid cuts but Budge stated on Friday that deferrals were “simply not an option” for Hearts. She wrote to every player asking them to accept the reductions and made it clear that deferrals would leave Hearts in debt – something she is steadfastly against. “I outlined the rationale and also explained why a deferral is simply not an option for the club. To reiterate, I cannot – and will not, in good conscience – leave the club in a position again where football debt is left as a ‘legacy’ for those who follow,” she said. With no matches and no income since football was indefinitely shutdown on March 13, Hearts are taking action to ensure they survive the impending financial crisis. They carry a first-team squad of more than 30 players with one of the largest wage bills in Scottish football outwith Celtic and Rangers. Manager Daniel Stendel is working without a wage and captain Steven Naismith took a 50 per cent reduction last month. Defender Clevid Dikamona agreed to terminate his agreement last month. With the majority now accepting less money, the Edinburgh club are financially better placed to take the ongoing football shutdown with most of their playing staff in tact. Edited April 27, 2020 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: Think you’re right. Replace furloughed with refuse to take a pay cut and that’s my answer. Publish names of those who refuse and get the, out the door. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Footballfirst said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/majority-hearts-squad-agree-wage-cuts-avoid-contracts-being-suspended-2551898 Two players still holding out. Wonder who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Footballfirst said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/majority-hearts-squad-agree-wage-cuts-avoid-contracts-being-suspended-2551898 Two players still holding out. Good guy, good guy, good guy, wank, wank, good guy. Common sense has won the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Good news at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, GinRummy said: 1 hours exercise a day which was taken by everybody in the uk to mean outside excercise was announced by Boris at the start of lockdown and has been reinforced by several cabinet ministers, Nicola Sturgeon and lots of other people 37 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: I've heard Jason Leitch mention it a few times. And you are meant to do anything outside of your property at leisurely pace. they need to reprint the leaflets they issued to all the homes in Scotland if now it has a time restriction on it. many things have been said in press conferences, however the publications don’t say these things. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do#when-am-i-allowed-to-leave-the-house https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others-social-distancing/pages/staying-at-home/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 1971fozzy said: I wouldn’t hold your breath for that. A name and shame statement may be box office for some but in reality it’s not the proper thing to do. We will likely know some of the individuals as they are released either voluntarily or by clause 12 but I would be gobsmacked if the club release a statement with names Yeah fair enough. Probably just me being nosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/majority-hearts-squad-agree-wage-cuts-avoid-contracts-being-suspended-2551898 Two players still holding out. Uche and a n other ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Deadline has passed so the two have haven't agreed should have their contracts suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, ramrod said: Uche and a n other ! Smith? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It was one of the women’s team who had been abroad playing for Scotland I think. Really, didn't know that at all. Hopefully all turned out well for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 disappointed. i was hopeful of clear out. They had to have their arms twisted & waited till the last minute. bunch of chancers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, GinRummy said: 1 hours exercise a day which was taken by everybody in the uk to mean outside excercise was announced by Boris at the start of lockdown and has been reinforced by several cabinet ministers, Nicola Sturgeon and lots of other people I'm sure I'm right in thinking that the UK has a massive problem with obesity. I can tell you that here in NZ, one hours exercise per day would kill a lot more people than the virus. About half of our population couldn't manage 1 minute per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Le Chat said: So, here's Michael Smith's Instagram story from this morning. First run in a month. And our players are wanting full whack?? Incredible. From this morning??? Could swear I drove past him running on Sunday. I must be mistaken. Whoever it was was running at some speed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: Smith? 😁 😂 be a shame if it was Smith after taking time out his schedule to do running. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Great news this. Well done to the players. We deserve to know who the two players are who have declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) We do need a clear out and I was thinking this was an easy way to get one, but I have to say I'm actually rather pleased to hear that the vast majority are accepting their cuts and taking it on the chin. What I was reading was making me think our players were all money hungry, selfish, greedy bams, but I'm glad that's not the case. Well done to those who have accepted the situation. Would love to know who is holding out and why. Edited April 27, 2020 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 That news will really stick in the weegie press craw - how satisfying is that 👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I'm sure I'm right in thinking that the UK has a massive problem with obesity. I can tell you that here in NZ, one hours exercise per day would kill a lot more people than the virus. About half of our population couldn't manage 1 minute per day. One benefit of this whole thing may be that people start to think about what their underlying health issues may be and whether they can do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 caption game round 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Wonder if Jamie Walker is one of the two given his sister’s comments on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Great news this. Well done to the players. We deserve to know who the two players are who have declined. Well done? Nah man. They should have felt the need to do the right thing from the start. They aren't doing whats right because its right, they've agreed because Budge backed them into a corner and the reality of no wages dawned on them. **** every single last one of them. The day the last one of them leaves the club will be a good day. (sorry, I know its a well meaning post and you're bang on about us deserving to know who). Saw a few posts on twitter about the FOH money, suggesting that the players seemed to have been expecting this to be moved around to pay their ****ing wages. Honestly, they are utterly devoid of moral fortitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, OTT said: Well done? Nah man. They should have felt the need to do the right thing from the start. They aren't doing whats right because its right, they've agreed because Budge backed them into a corner and the reality of no wages dawned on them. **** every single last one of them. The day the last one of them leaves the club will be a good day. (sorry, I know its a well meaning post and you're bang on about us deserving to know who). Saw a few posts on twitter about the FOH money, suggesting that the players seemed to have been expecting this to be moved around to pay their ****ing wages. Honestly, they are utterly devoid of moral fortitude. This is where I’m at. Almost more annoyed that the chancers backed down at the last minute thinking Budge wouldn’t go through with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, King prawn said: caption game round 2 Gorillas in the mist? 😖 Hidden messages?😫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Disappointed. Was hoping they had been Article 12ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Not sure any of them deserve credit for pushing it so late - other than Naismith, Young Guy and Stendel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said: They wouldn’t be making a statement about their pay negotiations, they’d be making a statement about the players contract being subject to Article 12. Do you really think that information should not be known? Really? No, I agree art 12 would be in public domain. Individual pay cuts shouldn’t be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, amadjambo said: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Not sure any of them deserve credit for pushing it so late - other than Naismith, Young Guy and Stendel Clevid too! Levein going on about looking for the right characters for the club really turned out to be a lot of shite eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Disappointed. Was hoping they had been Article 12ed. I prefer to think that at least 2 are on temporary article 12 while they dither and deal. Makes me feel a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 So everyone is outraged that footballers won’t take a pay cut then are equally outraged that all but two have and we can’t just summarily terminate more contracts. Outrage is a thing! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, OTT said: Clevid too! Levein going on about looking for the right characters for the club really turned out to be a lot of shite eh I forgot and agree. A good egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Holyrood_Hearts said: Wonder if Jamie Walker is one of the two given his sister’s comments on Twitter What were her comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 First the Riccarton Three, now the Tynecastle Two. I'm assuming it's players who want to leave asap. Berra for example might just prefer to cut ties now and join Dundee permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Michael Smith has been one of our most consistent players all season I cannot remember a game where he did not give his all. I also seem to remember he played right after his wife gave birth and played through tonsillitis Why are people so keen to believe negative things and what do they base it on apart froma frustration at the Club in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: So everyone is outraged that footballers won’t take a pay cut then are equally outraged that all but two have and we can’t just summarily terminate more contracts. Outrage is a thing! 😄 We wanted firework display all we got was a sparkler and a banger. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Out of nothing but speculation I’m going for Washington and Boyce given the likely size of their wages and potential to move on elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, stotty said: What were her comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Out of nothing but speculation I’m going for Washington and Boyce given the likely size of their wages and potential to move on elsewhere. Can't see us letting Boyce go for nothing , in saying that it's Budge so maybe you're right lol Edited April 27, 2020 by ramrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, ramrod said: Can't see us letting Boyce go for nothing , in saying that it's Budge so maybe you're right lol I don’t think this is an exercise in who we want to keep, it’s more about who we can keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, OTT said: Well done? Nah man. They should have felt the need to do the right thing from the start. They aren't doing whats right because its right, they've agreed because Budge backed them into a corner and the reality of no wages dawned on them. **** every single last one of them. The day the last one of them leaves the club will be a good day. (sorry, I know its a well meaning post and you're bang on about us deserving to know who). Saw a few posts on twitter about the FOH money, suggesting that the players seemed to have been expecting this to be moved around to pay their ****ing wages. Honestly, they are utterly devoid of moral fortitude. I completely agree with that. Better late than never is my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: I prefer to think that at least 2 are on temporary article 12 while they dither and deal. Makes me feel a bit better. Decent chance 1 or 2 might come round. 8 came round today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah and was badly at fault for the 5 German goals, he’s not up to Championship standard and at 32 and fighting with around 1000 other players at League 1&2 level I’m not convinced he will have many options down south. If we get demoted he might stay in the top league though. Tbh i wouldn’t shed a tear if we lost everyone. Possibly Andy Irvine and Hickey but the rest I’m pretty meh about. I’d happily start over again with a brand new squad. I’ve never felt so low being a jambo as I do right now. This team with CL calling the shots for the last few years, has just sapped all my love and enthusiasm and I’ve tortured myself week in week out following them. I look forward to when the new broom sweeps clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Wish I could live in Steph Walkers world. Must be brilliant. My income has dropped to zero Steph and has been that way for 7 weeks and continues to be that way. I'm making what's called a sacrifice in the teeth of a global crisis. I'm happy to do so. Look for sacrifice in your dictionary Steph. It comes straight after selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Decent chance 1 or 2 might come round. 8 came round today. Yep. Bought themselves enough time dragging this out to get their agents on point to move them on. If those 8 wanted to be playing here next season, they wouldn’t have held out to 5pm today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Out of nothing but speculation I’m going for Washington and Boyce given the likely size of their wages and potential to move on elsewhere. Washington & Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said: Tbh i wouldn’t shed a tear if we lost everyone. Possibly Andy Irvine and Hickey but the rest I’m pretty meh about. I’d happily start over again with a brand new squad. I’ve never felt so low being a jambo as I do right now. This team with CL calling the shots for the last few years, has just sapped all my love and enthusiasm and I’ve tortured myself week in week out following them. I look forward to when the new broom sweeps clean Absolutely 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Hall said: Washington & Uche. A guess or ITK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ibrahim Tall said: This. Smiths good but I’ve never got the hype, he’s a consistent 6.5/7 out of 10 player but he doesn’t score or assist and based on the ‘team’ performance he’s hardly one to drag the rest of the defence along either. He’s a Northern Irish Robbie Neilson. And like Robbie Neilson it'll only become apparent how good he is once he's away and we're getting shafted down our right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Hall said: Washington & Uche. I would have guessed Damour, but not really surprised. Two huge disappointments. Article 12 them and turn the phone off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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