Francis Albert Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said: Good luck on the ventilators. I the meantime my daughter will do her best. Even though you think so little of her. And now I'll put you on ignore. Please do. And I would just add even if I had ever voted Tory I would not accept your intolrance of someone who.happens to disagree with you And where did I even remotely suggest I think so little of your daughter? Edited March 20, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Why is anyone surprised pubs should be packed out on the last night they will be open for three to six months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: 627 deaths in Italy in 1 day 3 hours ago, Sooperstar said: Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply. ##### the lot of them. Not a thought for anybody else but themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Why is anyone surprised pubs should be packed out on the last night they will be open for three to six months? People just hope against hope that the world isn’t full of arseholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, graygo said: Anyone else feel like the government thinks the end is nigh? Giving away money like it doesn't matter. Yes Edited March 20, 2020 by Dagger Is Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: People just hope against hope that the world isn’t full of arseholes. They haven't been around long then ... or logged on to JKB much ! And one last night fling won't make much difference anyway Edited March 21, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Francis Albert said: They haven't been around long then ... or logged on to JKB much ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Dagger Is Back said: Yes Prepare to be grilled by FA. Unless my Ad Hominem theory is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJAC? Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I ****ing loathe the Tories, but I thought that today's briefing was by far the best showing yet. Obviously they let some people down; short term workers etc, but on the whole, easily the best day they've had. I just think this has been a humbling experience for many of them. Same with Matt Hancock last night. Whilst towing the party line at times, he too came across as genuine. Was refreshing to see both him and Andy Burnham put petty politics aside. Sturgeon has also been immense through this. And I'm not a SNP fanboy either. But I'm glad we have her in charge up here. Had we had either Labour or Cons, they'd simply be towing the Westminster line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: Prepare to be grilled by FA. Unless my Ad Hominem theory is correct. Oh God. Can life get any worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Just now, BlackJAC? said: I ****ing loathe the Tories, but I thought that today's briefing was by far the best showing yet. Obviously they let some people down; short term workers etc, but on the whole, easily the best day they've had. I just think this has been a humbling experience for many of them. Same with Matt Hancock last night. Whilst towing the party line at times, he too came across as genuine. Was refreshing to see both him and Andy Burnham put petty politics aside. Sturgeon has also been immense through this. And I'm not a SNP fanboy either. But I'm glad we have her in charge up here. Had we had either Labour or Cons, they'd simply be towing the Westminster line. Agree with every word. Hancock was excellent last night and I’ve always had time for AB To be honest, I’m still trying to get my head round what’s available to me as a self employed person. My employee is now sorted in terms of wages but unless I’ve missed something there’s nothing else. Our business was suspended today and we’ve no income coming into the house other than my wife’s 15 hours pw Start a warehouse job in Livvy tomorrow doing the 2-10pm shift Been a long time since I ‘took orders’ so hoping they’re a decent employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: They haven't been around long then ... or logged on to JKB much ! And one last night fling won't make much difference anyway I would love to witness you saying that in person to the mother of the little girl with respiratory problems that I met today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Agree with every word. Hancock was excellent last night and I’ve always had time for AB To be honest, I’m still trying to get my head round what’s available to me as a self employed person. My employee is now sorted in terms of wages but unless I’ve missed something there’s nothing else. Our business was suspended today and we’ve no income coming into the house other than my wife’s 15 hours pw Start a warehouse job in Livvy tomorrow doing the 2-10pm shift Been a long time since I ‘took orders’ so hoping they’re a decent employer. Good stuff, hopefully that takes some of the pressure off until you can get your business back up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, graygo said: Good stuff, hopefully that takes some of the pressure off until you can get your business back up and running. Hope so. We’ll be back with the business just as soon as we’re given the green light. Thanks buddy Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maple Leaf Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, annushorribilis III said: It's really simple . Old people don't give a shite about youngsters : they vote Tory, they don''t care about anything until they personally take a hit (eg the NHS) and they inflicted brexit on the country. I'm reluctant to jump into an ongoing argument, but don't you think that comment is a gross exaggeration? I'm an old people and I much prefer spending time with younger people than those of my own age. Perhaps you're referring to British old people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 hours ago, milky_26 said: i thought they said for initially up to 3 months 8 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Backdated to March 1st and for a minimum of 3 months, although no limit has been set. If it needs to be extended, it will be. So they'll pay 80% of wages for anyone who decides they need 3 months of work off? Or have you not understand my question? (Not saying that in a confrontational way) 8 hours ago, Suso Santana said: Same reason cinemas, restaurants and pubs have to close i suppose. We're suppose to avoid people and stay at home. Those are non essential public services. Shops that sell food are essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Jeff said: Exactly how it should be. Maybe we will hear more in the next few days You may be surprised to hear that those up for release this year may well get early release imminently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: So they'll pay 80% of wages for anyone who decides they need 3 months of work off? Or have you not understand my question? (Not saying that in a confrontational way) Those are non essential public services. Shops that sell food are essential. The money will go directly to the employer not the employee. "It will pay 80% of salary for staff who are kept on by their employer, covering wages of up to £2,500 a month." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, graygo said: The money will go directly to the employer not the employee. "It will pay 80% of salary for staff who are kept on by their employer, covering wages of up to £2,500 a month." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005 So it isn't 80% pay for those of us who would need to live off SSP for 2 weeks. It's for those whose jobs are effectively ending until this all blows over. The bar/ cinema/ cafe etc staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: I'm reluctant to jump into an ongoing argument, but don't you think that comment is a gross exaggeration? I'm an old people and I much prefer spending time with younger people than those of my own age. Perhaps you're referring to British old people. Not Scotland, nobody lives past 70 up here, so we're fine. Edited March 21, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Nobody is going to be safe from this plague. It will hit the over 70's harder but what's new about that? Pretty much everything does. Quote "Although older people are hardest hit, younger people are not spared." He added: "I have a message for young people: You are not invincible, this virus could put you in hospital for weeks or even kill you. Coronavirus: Young people are not ‘invincible’, WHO warns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Francis Albert said: And one last night fling won't make much difference anyway There will likely be hundreds of cases transmitted that would've been avoided if folk had just sacrificed one more night. But nah. We're brits and we're above all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 A wis Oot walkin the dug and A hauf expectit tae see a Lion hunt doon a deer. Place is fecking emptiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire_At_The_Disco Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On a positive note I got my whole holiday refunded, negatives :- wife says we are blowing it on the garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Agree with every word. Hancock was excellent last night and I’ve always had time for AB To be honest, I’m still trying to get my head round what’s available to me as a self employed person. My employee is now sorted in terms of wages but unless I’ve missed something there’s nothing else. Our business was suspended today and we’ve no income coming into the house other than my wife’s 15 hours pw Start a warehouse job in Livvy tomorrow doing the 2-10pm shift Been a long time since I ‘took orders’ so hoping they’re a decent employer. Brilliant mate getting something so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 9 hours ago, jambopilms said: I said it a few days a go, not the right time for Boris bashing. The government can't do everything overnight, no matter who the government is. Never happen but a bit like America the greatest thing their leader could do is resign and put someone competent in charge. I'd take May or Cameron back in a heartbeat just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Up at 7am and put on sky news lasted 2 minutes, thousands with HIV in South Africa at risk then they go to a hospital in Italy, thats enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Walter Bishop said: Has it been asked if are we using Chloroquine in the UK? Sure I over heard on Radio Scotland yesterday that it doesn't work for this virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Francis Albert said: They haven't been around long then ... or logged on to JKB much ! And one last night fling won't make much difference anyway This is trolling or off-the-scale ignorance. Up to 100 or so per pub (lots less in some) multiplied by a few hundred pubs up and down the land (probably more) multiplied by pub attendees returning to wives, children, partners, etc, multiplied by wives and partners all trooping out today (with or without pub attendee) to supermarkets to be in close proximity to hundreds of other shoppers + handling trolleys, shelving, items, etc. It's a potentially significant little chunk ripped out of the delay measures. Every little bit of delay injected in to the model saves lives. What the hell is wrong with you? Edited March 21, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Tambo_The_Jambo said: On a positive note I got my whole holiday refunded, negatives :- wife says we are blowing it on the garden Talking about the garden I ran my mum to garden Center yesterday and it was busy. Think a lot of people are hoping weather warms up so can do things in garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Sure I over heard on Radio Scotland yesterday that it doesn't work for this virus. Well that's went from "initial tests are positive and we'll move to full trials" to "it doesn't work for this virus" in the space of 48 hours. If true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo314 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: Loads in the Goodies Walked past the Goodies this morning heading for my morning paper, no sign up saying closed and can't really see them making meals for home deliveries as other pub establishments are doing. So mibby a sneaky wee side door will be used for the regulars, not me I may add😁 Edited March 21, 2020 by Jambo314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Agree with every word. Hancock was excellent last night and I’ve always had time for AB To be honest, I’m still trying to get my head round what’s available to me as a self employed person. My employee is now sorted in terms of wages but unless I’ve missed something there’s nothing else. Our business was suspended today and we’ve no income coming into the house other than my wife’s 15 hours pw Start a warehouse job in Livvy tomorrow doing the 2-10pm shift Been a long time since I ‘took orders’ so hoping they’re a decent employer. Well done. ive always found any employer is reasonable as long as your willing to do a decent days graft which I am sure you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, graygo said: Well that's went from "initial tests are positive and we'll move to full trials" to "it doesn't work for this virus" in the space of 48 hours. If true. As I thought, fake news. Still in trials but not yet approved. https://www.bbc.com/news/51980731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, graygo said: As I thought, fake news. Still in trials but not yet approved. https://www.bbc.com/news/51980731 Thanks. So not a definite no but a significant knock back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: So sad and yet so predictable. Don't be so hard on yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Summit, the worlds fastest supercomputer has been running various models and simulations. 77 chemicals have been found that may stop the virus attaching itself to a host. Small steps in the right direction but hopefully the medical research breakthroughs begin to go exponentially too and we are spoilt for weapons to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, graygo said: As I thought, fake news. Still in trials but not yet approved. https://www.bbc.com/news/51980731 not like Trump to make up a story and tell millions. at least phase 1 will not be needed and there will be no shortage of volunteers for phase 2 and 3. Should be relatively short to set up with NIH money or EU based funders. FDA will fast track if someone puts good stats from said trials in front of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Thanks. So not a definite no but a significant knock back Not a knock back at all It's an anti malaria drug and that's all it is approved for, it needs trialled to find out if it is effective and the dosages required to treat Coronavirus are safe. Edit. Sorry, yes a knock back in so far as Trump made out that the FDA had approved it which was obviously either misleading or a downright lie. Edited March 21, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) I'm not sure that a large amount of garden centre / home improvement retailer visiting is a great idea in all honesty. I know people are not going on holiday and want to put their efforts into gardens and houses instead but it's non essential interaction just like a lot of other things. It's also most likely to involve a short and busy peak period of activity very soon. Is it really necessary? Edited March 21, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Just got a message from a senior director in NHS. There is evidence that petrol pumps are a major source of transmission and people should wear gloves or at least wipe hands asap and then obviously wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Just got a message from a senior director in NHS. There is evidence that petrol pumps are a major source of transmission and people should wear gloves or at least wipe hands asap and then obviously wash. I was told this yesterday too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Seems pretty obvious really. Lots of different people will handle the pump every day. They don't typically have facilities to wash your hands before and after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Spellczech said: I don't think Boris is running the country. I think it is Sunak and the devolved Govts, namely Sturgeon...Every decision that the Govt has made this week has either been by the Chancellor or pre-empted by the devolved Govts. Boris is now just a bumbling mouthpiece. Edited March 21, 2020 by Brighton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 One month ago today on the 21 February, Italy recorded their first confirmed death from coronavirus, 4 weeks on from then, that number is now over 4,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Potter Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Victorian said: I'm not sure that a large amount of garden centre / home improvement retailer visiting is a great idea in all honesty. I know people are not going on holiday and want to put their efforts into gardens and houses instead but it's non essential interaction just like a lot of other things. It's also most likely to involve a short and busy peak period of activity very soon. Is it really necessary? My wife cut the grass yesterday, made a rather good job, so much shes entitled to keep the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 A slightly worrying (actually, utterly terrifying) report by some Red Tops of a 27 year old woman dying in Poland, who'd given birth a few days prior, with no previous health issues. Please, please let that just be an extremely unfortunate case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, DETTY29 said: Brilliant mate getting something so quickly. Cheers boss. Gonna be strange being an employee but it’s involved in food deliveries for the elderly. That can’t be a bad thing at this time 3 hours ago, Victorian said: This is trolling or off-the-scale ignorance. Up to 100 or so per pub (lots less in some) multiplied by a few hundred pubs up and down the land (probably more) multiplied by pub attendees returning to wives, children, partners, etc, multiplied by wives and partners all trooping out today (with or without pub attendee) to supermarkets to be in close proximity to hundreds of other shoppers + handling trolleys, shelving, items, etc. It's a potentially significant little chunk ripped out of the delay measures. Every little bit of delay injected in to the model saves lives. What the hell is wrong with you? Couldn’t agree more. You wonder when or indeed if, the penny is actually going to drop for some people 3 hours ago, Montgomery Brewster said: Well done. ive always found any employer is reasonable as long as your willing to do a decent days graft which I am sure you are. Cheers Well I’ve worked my arse off at any job I’ve ever done so that won’t be a problem. You sometimes hear horror stories about how some employers and bosses treat people so 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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