Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[kila]

1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

Mortality rate is 8.6% so they just said on Sky News.

This is day 11 of the national lockdown and it's the worse day yet.

On day 12 China seen their totals begin to decrease.

As much as I'd like to see the same happen in Italy, I just can't see it.

 

Don't think we can start calculating mortality rates yet as we don't know how many infected and recovered from mild symptoms, so that 8.6% is a scary figure and implies millions on the horizon.

 

Really hope we see Italy peak this weekend and it gives us some optimism we can fight this while we await remedies and ultimately vaccination.

 

 

[vegas-voss]

6 minutes ago, kila said:

 

Don't think we can start calculating mortality rates yet as we don't know how many infected and recovered from mild symptoms, so that 8.6% is a scary figure and implies millions on the horizon.

 

Really hope we see Italy peak this weekend and it gives us some optimism we can fight this while we await remedies and ultimately vaccination.

 

 

How are Germany and France doing now.I know Spain is starting to look bad

[ri Alban]

23 minutes ago, XB52 said:

The same one who has been pissing on them for the last umpteen years. Just posts to argue over and over again. Just leave him to it

Jkb's resident contrarian. 

[Mikey1874]

23 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Be honest now, did anyone actually suspect that this government would announce this today. I thought they might have protected it to 50%  for some workers, but never anything to this scale.

 

No, it was coming 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

4 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

How are Germany and France doing now.I know Spain is starting to look bad

 

Germany had 15 deaths in the last 24 hrs, total of 59, new confirmed cases +4,528, total 19,848.

France had 78 deaths in the last 24 hrs, total of 450, new confirmed cases +1,617, total 12,612.

 

[graygo]

10 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

How are Germany and France doing now.I know Spain is starting to look bad

 

Germany

19,848 cases

4,528 new cases

59 total deaths

15 new deaths

 

France

12,612 cases

1,617 new cases

450 deaths

78 new deaths

 

Spain

20,412 cases

2,335 new cases

1,044 deaths

213 new deaths

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Edited March 20, 2020 by graygo

[vegas-voss]

1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Germany had 15 deaths in the last 24 hrs, total of 59, new confirmed cases +4,528, total 19,848.

France had 78 deaths in the last 24 hrs, total of 450, new confirmed cases +1,617, total 12,612.

 

Germany looking really positive 19k cases only 59 ( sadly still some ) deaths

[vegas-voss]

1 minute ago, graygo said:

 

Germany

19,848 cases

4,528 new cases

59 total deaths

15 new deaths

 

Spain

20,412 cases

2,335 new cases

1,044 deaths

213 new deaths

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Spain really looking like going the way of Italy 😒

[graygo]

1 minute ago, vegas-voss said:

Spain really looking like going the way of Italy 😒

 

Spain really needs to give Germany a wee phone call.

[Mac_fae_Gillie]

3 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

Germany looking really positive 19k cases only 59 ( sadly still some ) deaths

Huge jump in cases though, 4500+ in 1 day even with very good health systems if there end up been massive amount of cases in short period it will break them.

[vegas-voss]

1 minute ago, graygo said:

 

Spain really needs to give Germany a wee phone call.

I think we all do

[Dawnrazor]

1 minute ago, graygo said:

 

Spain really needs to give Germany a wee phone call.

Is it because the Spanish and Italians socialise with older family members more than other countries? 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

5 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

Germany looking really positive 19k cases only 59 ( sadly still some ) deaths

 

Maybe not, heard them say on the news that Germany records their deaths differently, but it didn't say in what way.

[vegas-voss]

1 minute ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

Huge jump in cases though, 4500+ in 1 day even with very good health systems if there end up been massive amount of cases in short period it will break them.

Aye that total today is scary and can see now why Merkel made that statement last night.

[kingantti1874]

1 minute ago, vegas-voss said:

I think we all do

the Germans have 35 ventiled beds per 100k of population, Italy has about 12.. we have 6 (currently) 

 

the Germans are able to provide better care, Italy’s health service is swamped

[GinRummy]

Just now, kingantti1874 said:

the Germans have 35 ventiled beds per 100k of population, Italy has about 12.. we have 6 (currently) 

 

the Germans are able to provide better care, Italy’s health service is swamped

Could it be to do with testing as well? Our ratio of infected to deaths is going to look much worse than reality because thousands of people have had it and have not been recorded. 

[vegas-voss]

That's me for tonight time to chill out for an hour or two of TV ( not news ) before I freak out.

Edited March 20, 2020 by vegas-voss

[Cade]

44 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Be honest now, did anyone actually suspect that this government would announce this today. I thought they might have protected it to 50%  for some workers, but never anything to this scale.

They had to do this and on this scale.

I've been calling for it for well over a week.

Everybody knew it had to be done but they resisted and farted about and wasted a fortnight during which time the virus has openly spread in the general population due to their gobshite "herd immunity" policy and tens of thousands of people have lost their jobs.

 

They are to be lauded for finally doing what needed to be done but they should also be criticised to wasting a fornight when they could have done it right away.

[Francis Albert]

11 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Is it because the Spanish and Italians socialise with older family members more than other countries? 

And of course with younger family members.

[Morgan]

26 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Is it because the Spanish and Italians socialise with older family members more than other countries? 

I don’t think that the way these nationalities (Spain, Italy, France) greet each other, can help.

 

Handshakes, multiple kissing etc.

[Dawnrazor]

20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

And of course with younger family members.

Yes, they just seem to be more family orientated somehow.

[Dawnrazor]

6 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I don’t think that the way these nationalities (Spain, Italy, France) greet each other, can help.

 

Handshakes, multiple kissing etc.

Can't help, poor buggers wouldn't know who had it or how dangerous to the ill and elderly 😟

[Victorian]

Regarding the advances in treatments with existing drugs and anti-virals (or combinations).    Some people seem to think the various research projects are showing promising data.    I wonder if these interventions can be fine tuned to roll out a system of early intervention before hospitalisation or perhaps as soon as hospitalisation occurs.

[Sooperstar]

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

[OBE]

4 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

 

Cv-19 will be rubbing it's wee pathogen hands at the prospect.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Old Blue Eyes

[graygo]

4 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

 

Good point, how long does a keg keep before going off?

[Dawnrazor]

From Lancashire Police.

"I am sure that everyone is aware of the current issue of COVID-19 and the advice of social distancing. However, we are currently responding to the issue of around 130 children aged between 14-18 all gathered in Williamson Park Lancaster. Some of these children are under the influence of alcohol. This is a call to all parents with kids of this age group that are currently not at home, if they are not at home, where are they ?  If they are at the park we suggest you exercise your parental responsibility and get them home sharpish. There are businesses having to shut their doors to prevent this issue yet your kids are behaving like this !! Help us out please."

This is about 40 minutes from where I live, what the **** are parents thinking about?!

Edited March 20, 2020 by Dawnrazor

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

From Lancashire Police.

"I am sure that everyone is aware of the current issue of COVID-19 and the advice of social distancing. However, we are currently responding to the issue of around 130 children aged between 14-18 all gathered in Williamson Park Lancaster. Some of these children are under the influence of alcohol. This is a call to all parents with kids of this age group that are currently not at home, if they are not at home, where are they ?  If they are at the park we suggest you exercise your parental responsibility and get them home sharpish. There are businesses having to shut their doors to prevent this issue yet your kids are behaving like this !! Help us out please."

This is about 40 minutes from where I live, what the **** are parents thinking about?!

Very much doubt the parents care. Most of them will be proud of kids and think it is hilarious. Lock the ****ers up.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

From Lancashire Police.

"I am sure that everyone is aware of the current issue of COVID-19 and the advice of social distancing. However, we are currently responding to the issue of around 130 children aged between 14-18 all gathered in Williamson Park Lancaster. Some of these children are under the influence of alcohol. This is a call to all parents with kids of this age group that are currently not at home, if they are not at home, where are they ?  If they are at the park we suggest you exercise your parental responsibility and get them home sharpish. There are businesses having to shut their doors to prevent this issue yet your kids are behaving like this !! Help us out please."

This is about 40 minutes from where I live, what the **** are parents thinking about?!

 

Wouldn't be surprised that some of the parents are at the pub getting their last pints before they close.

[graygo]

7 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

 

Ship Inn Dalkeith posted on Facebook offering cheap carry outs.

[Malinga the Swinga]

10 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Regarding the advances in treatments with existing drugs and anti-virals (or combinations).    Some people seem to think the various research projects are showing promising data.    I wonder if these interventions can be fine tuned to roll out a system of early intervention before hospitalisation or perhaps as soon as hospitalisation occurs.

I reckon that's what Boris is praying for with his 12 week comments. Got to hope that someone strikes jackpot. As China is reporting no new cases, wonder if they have something and are keeping quiet. Wouldn't think so but can you trust Chinese government. 

[Francis Albert]

16 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

A kind of natural and predictable reaction.

[Victorian]

8 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I reckon that's what Boris is praying for with his 12 week comments. Got to hope that someone strikes jackpot. As China is reporting no new cases, wonder if they have something and are keeping quiet. Wouldn't think so but can you trust Chinese government. 

 

It would be a potential game changer if they can treat out a large percentage of the ICU cases before their condition gets to a certain stage.     Even better would be the possibility to self administer away from hospital but that seems a bit too hopeful.     

 

Antibody testing to the degree of multiple self testing would be another game changer but they also need to research on the matter of re-infection / active transmission after recovery.    That's a vital piece in the jigsaw.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Victorian

[davemclaren]

12 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Ship Inn Dalkeith posted on Facebook offering cheap carry outs.

Popping into the car now...

[Riccarton3]

627  deaths in Italy in 1 day

[milky_26]

25 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Good point, how long does a keg keep before going off?

that is why wetherspoons are so cheap, they buy lots of beer that is near its expiry date as they know they can sell it cheap and still make profit

[GinRummy]

Bensons offering £1 off all pints. 

Edited March 20, 2020 by GinRummy

[southcap]

For those wondering about Russia.

 

Russia doing what Russia does, lie. 

 

Sharp increase in Moscow pneumonia cases fuels fears over coronavirus statistics

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coronavirus-health-russia/sharp-increase-in-moscow-pneumonia-cases-fuels-fears-over-coronavirus-statistics-idUSKBN216305

[Victorian]

These twats deserve the loss of their pub visiting.    The next thing will be a rise in the use of house based gatherings to substitute for lost pub nights.    Old fashioned house parties for arseholes.

[The Muffin Man]

24 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Popping into the car now...

Like you’d ever frequent the Ship.

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[davemclaren]

2 minutes ago, The Muffin Man said:

Like you’d ever frequent the Ship.

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

One of the few pubs in Dalkeith I’ve never been to. That and Maysons. But cheap beer.... 😎

[kila]

Anyone heard from the kickbacker who is/was stranded in quarantine in Vietnam? Not seen him post in this thread for a while

 

[The Muffin Man]

3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

One of the few pubs in Dalkeith I’ve never been to. That and Maysons. But cheap beer.... 😎

You wouldn’t last a minute. Cheap beer for sale or not.

 

 

[Spellczech]

3 hours ago, Cade said:

Everything they should have done two or three weeks ago.

 

Proper lockdowns.

Wage guarantees.

Universal credit expansion.

 

Shame it's waken so bloody long for reality to bite and for central government to act.

How many people have been infected that could have been prevented if they'd done all this in the first place?

How many people have already lost their jobs before these measures were put in place?

 

 

I don't think Boris is running the country. I think it is Sunak and the devolved Govts, namely Sturgeon...Every decision that the Govt has made this week has either been by the Chancellor or pre-empted by the devolved Govts. Boris is now just a bumbling mouthpiece.

 

 

[Spellczech]

28 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

that is why wetherspoons are so cheap, they buy lots of beer that is near its expiry date as they know they can sell it cheap and still make profit

Just the bit in bold. They are very very tough negotiators. In a previous life I worked for S&N then Heineken.

[Victorian]

Just now, Spellczech said:

I don't think Boris is running the country. I think it is Sunak and the devolved Govts, namely Sturgeon...Every decision that the Govt has made this week has either been by the Chancellor or pre-empted by the devolved Govts. Boris is now just a bumbling mouthpiece.

 

 

 

Johnson is a devolver of workload.    That was his plan as PM from the outset.    He's probably happy to take a chair position in Cobra / other meetings and the real work away from the meetings will be done with very little input from him.    When No10 has to lead it will be mostly Cummings.

[davemclaren]

9 minutes ago, The Muffin Man said:

You wouldn’t last a minute. Cheap beer for sale or not.

 

 

Why’s that? 🤔

[Hairdryer]

1 hour ago, Sooperstar said:

Hearing of several pubs that are packed full tonight and selling bevvy off cheaply.

If you know the name of them then name and shame them and

for the people drinking in them you are very selfish 

[Trapper John McIntyre]

9 minutes ago, Spellczech said:

I don't think Boris is running the country. I think it is Sunak and the devolved Govts, namely Sturgeon...Every decision that the Govt has made this week has either been by the Chancellor or pre-empted by the devolved Govts. Boris is now just a bumbling mouthpiece.

 

 

 

Get a grip. She's only discovering now, quite painfully, the true meaning of Better Together.

[Spellczech]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Johnson is a devolver of workload.    That was his plan as PM from the outset.    He's probably happy to take a chair position in Cobra / other meetings and the real work away from the meetings will be done with very little input from him.    When No10 has to lead it will be mostly Cummings.

Agreed. I also suspect that Cummings is the one behind the "herd immunity" idea. They've looked at Netherlands adopting this because they have highest density of population and multiple open borders and gone "meh, London is like that" so they chose that as the UK's policy. It was a PR disaster when they tried to sell it to the populace on Monday and as the week has progressed Boris has tried to stick to it but clearly others have forced him to clamp down more and more every day. Sunak has clearly made his own calls on economy and Scotland led with Wales and NI quickly following on school closures forcing England to do the same...Today was media driven.