Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Oral Surgeon/Dental Surgeon one and the same no? All the dentists at my practice in Barnton are Dental Surgeons so fairly common in the profession would be my guess. But that piece of paper from his online course from Harvard (similar to doing an MBA from there in practice I suppose) is the important thing it appears. Thing is you get people with walls papered with degrees who are academically excellent but just cannot perform in the operational/front line side of things. All that training just to push paper around. Are you one of those types who put "School of hard knocks" / "University of life" on their Facebook profile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 An oral surgeon is much more specialised than a dental surgeon. It requires more study than the 7 years it takes to be a dentist and plenty more ‘bits of paper’. (“Dentist”, “dental surgeon” and “dental practitioner” are all the same thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Are you one of those types who put "School of hard knocks" / "University of life" on their Facebook profile? Not on facebook. This is the only unsocial media platform I'm on (well this and RAWK). In answer to your question no as I have encountered many professionals who were academically excellent but virtually inept in actually doing the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Well this thread has taken a pleasing turn as the "doctor" has been handed his arse on a plate😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, weehammy said: So you were making an assumption. And I didn’t make a comment. I merely reflected. Keep trying though. This is what you said Bestowed by the Saltire Society. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!! That's not a reflection, it's a comment. You are inviting others to question the value of Leitch's award because it came from The Saltire Society. You clearly have no knowledge of this organisation but implied that because it had saltire in it's name it would not be of much if any value because it was likely to be biased. Now that is an assumption but it is a reasonable assumption and just in case you meant something else i asked you what your comment did mean. You have been unable to offer a reasonable answer so far. I don't think you can and fully expect a derogatory comment. That's an assumption too but like the other point it is justified based on our previous conversations. 2 hours ago, weehammy said: Mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!! You seem to make sweeping assumptions without a scrap of evidence. If my assumption is wrong tell us what you did mean, what's wrong with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, FWJ said: An oral surgeon is much more specialised than a dental surgeon. It requires more study than the 7 years it takes to be a dentist and plenty more ‘bits of paper’. (“Dentist”, “dental surgeon” and “dental practitioner” are all the same thing) So he trains as a maxillofacial surgeon and even becomes an FRCS on the back of it but jacks to push paper. That doesn't concern you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I’ve got no dog in this fight but world-renowned political genius George W Bush went to Yale then Harvard Business School. Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, jonesy said: I've only seen one interview with him, and the poor bugger seemed rattled by a couple of simple softball questions. Out of his depth, as are the entire governments of Scotland and the rUK. Hapless fools masquerading as wise men/women. Don't agree. Lots of people who appear on the podium are poor to dreadful speakers with varying degrees of understanding. That does not apply to Leitch or Sturgeon IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zico said: I’ve got no dog in this fight but world-renowned political genius George W Bush went to Yale then Harvard Business School. Make of that what you will. Fair to say that Leitch didn't have the luxury of his father being President. Edited October 30, 2020 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Ray Gin said: Fair to say that Leitch didn't have the luxury of his father being President. Dubya didn’t go to university when he was 42! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Hi anyone got the latest info regarding waiting time to go to hospital.? Mate of mine has suspected cancer ( mole changing colour and lumpy) and worried sick obviously. He thinks the NHS still trying to keep to 2 weeks appointment time? Any info appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, redjambo said: Very objective. No political bias to see here, move along. Not necessarily. I quite like Sturgeon but will gladly concede she's a nippy ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Zico said: Dubya didn’t go to university when he was 42! Fair point, although his dad was still UN Ambassador and high ranking Republican when jr went to Harvard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Fair point, although his dad was still UN Ambassador and high ranking Republican when jr went to Harvard. Ignore this I missed the earlier posts. Edited October 30, 2020 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Fair point, although his dad was still UN Ambassador and high ranking Republican when jr went to Harvard. To change tack then, Nick Griffin went to Cambridge! The point being, plenty daft ***** have went to good universities. I’ve no idea whether Leitch is a daft ***** or not but I’d focus more on his achievements than his degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, XB52 said: Well this thread has taken a pleasing turn as the "doctor" has been handed his arse on a plate😁😁 Or not. He has a differing point of view about Leitch (as do I) but nobody in the Natz gang has handed him his "arse on a plate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Zico said: To change tack then, Nick Griffin went to Cambridge! The point being, plenty daft ***** have went to good universities. I’ve no idea whether Leitch is a daft ***** or not but I’d focus more on his achievements than his degree. Good call but what exactly are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, XB52 said: Well this thread has taken a pleasing turn as the "doctor" has been handed his arse on a plate😁😁 TBF this is the doctor who had to be corrected on how cannabis swab tests work by some prick who likes a joint, you can see why he's wary of people with relevant degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, jonesy said: I've only seen one interview with him, and the poor bugger seemed rattled by a couple of simple softball questions. Out of his depth, as are the entire governments of Scotland and the rUK. Hapless fools masquerading as wise men/women. How many countries around the world apart from unsurprisingly China (I still believe they manufactured this virus) have a handle on this pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Smithee said: TBF this is the doctor who had to be corrected on how cannabis swab tests work by some prick who likes a joint, you can see why he's wary of people with relevant degrees. He's as much a real doctor as Dr Funk (aka Calum Paterson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Or not. He has a differing point of view about Leitch (as do I) but nobody in the Natz gang has handed him his "arse on a plate". The Natz gang? 🤣 You know the political viewpoint of every poster who responded to the self proclaimed 'doctor' on this page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, kila said: The Natz gang? 🤣 You know the political viewpoint of every poster who responded to the self proclaimed 'doctor' on this page? Being omnipotent it's not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: He's as much a real doctor as Dr Funk (aka Calum Paterson). And you know this how exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said: Hi anyone got the latest info regarding waiting time to go to hospital.? Mate of mine has suspected cancer ( mole changing colour and lumpy) and worried sick obviously. He thinks the NHS still trying to keep to 2 weeks appointment time? Any info appreciated. @dr jambo ? Edited October 30, 2020 by Robbofan99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I quite like Sturgeon Barber's floor comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: And you know this how exactly? A guess based on his posting history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 My issue with Leitch is that he gives the impression that he is living the dream right now, cometh the hour cometh the man. Absolutely exemplified by his acceptance of an award whilst folk are seriously ill, dying and losing livelihoods all over the country. Meanwhile Jason is over the moon to be honoured for doing his well paid job. Read the room Jason. Pity they didn't teach that at Harvard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: Just to clarify - you have more respect for Dentists who stay purely as Dentists rather than ones that go on to get multiple doctorates, fellowships and a position as the national director for healthcare? To be fair, I have little respect for dentists anyway- but yes. much respect for clinical staff over your office jockeys for sure. lions vs lambs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) He’s a nippy **** regardless of what his politics are. He looks like he’s having the absolute time of his life while all this misery is going on. Edited October 30, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: Only the third highest ranked University in the world right enough. Maybe in the top 3 best funded universities in the world? It will I suspect be well up there. i do find '"went to Harvard" or indeed to any other top rated University being IN ITSELF a measure of academic success and qualification more than a bit snobbish and misplaced. "Went to Oxford" certainly doesn't elevate my.opinion of the competence of our Prime Minister. I am not commenting on Leitch's competence in his current role because I have no idea. Like most of us Edited October 30, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Some oddball chat going on here about "the dentist". FWIW I don't care who appointed him, who he votes for, how many bits of paper he has or which uni he got them from - but he's a very big asset to Sturgeon at this time due to the very clear info & reasoning he provides at the briefings and in interviews. Definitely one of the more impressive medical guys in the public eye. Another top guy is Chris Smith, the Cambridge Uni virologist - again, very informative and clear answers in interviews. Politicians, on the other hand ......🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said: @dr jambo ? 2 weeks- that’s the aim. Even if it’s a telephone call they will try to meet it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, XB52 said: Well this thread has taken a pleasing turn as the "doctor" has been handed his arse on a plate😁😁 Just enjoy the seethe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, GinRummy said: He’s a nippy **** regardless of what his politics are. He looks like he’s having the absolute time of his life while all this misery is going on. He really doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: And let's not forget , he's that much of an expert he was second choice behind that dipshit gynaecologist. No he wasn't. This has been covered before. Although I don't recall if we ever got to whether the CMO or NCD are peers or one reports into the other. Edited October 30, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, XB52 said: Well this thread has taken a pleasing turn as the "doctor" has been handed his arse on a plate😁😁 Think he is a dentist, but they have such pretensions you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: He really doesn't. He absolutely does. Revelling in his role of telling people what to do and full of self importance. Just a thoroughly unlikebale guy who I’m sick to the back teeth of having to put up with. At least the lockdown cheat Calderwood didn’t come across so badly. Edited October 30, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: He absolutely does. Revelling in his role of telling people what to do and full of self importance. Just a thoroughly unlikebale guy who I’m sick to the back teeth of having to put up with. At least the lockdown cheat Calderwoof didn’t come across so badly. Just your imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Just your imagination. A lot of folk I’ve spoken to imagine the same thing then. Maybe some sort of mass hysteria type event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Smithee said: TBF this is the doctor who had to be corrected on how cannabis swab tests work by some prick who likes a joint, you can see why he's wary of people with relevant degrees. You were wrong though Smithee. Don’t expect you to accept that, but stoners rarely do. Listerine mouth rinsing negates police drug swabs aye, OK. migjt fox the Shitey ones your work uses, but that’s it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: A lot of folk I’ve spoken to imagine the same thing then. Maybe some sort of mass hysteria type event. A lot of folk I've spoken to say the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Not necessarily. I quite like Sturgeon but will gladly concede she's a nippy ****. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Was it Swinney or Leitch that alluded that the public knows that a packet doesn't constitute a main meal? Cafegate all over at again at the daily briefings and HR for the next fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Ray Gin said: A lot of folk I've spoken to say the opposite. Just their imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: My issue with Leitch is that he gives the impression that he is living the dream right now, cometh the hour cometh the man. Absolutely exemplified by his acceptance of an award whilst folk are seriously ill, dying and losing livelihoods all over the country. Meanwhile Jason is over the moon to be honoured for doing his well paid job. Read the room Jason. Pity they didn't teach that at Harvard. correct, they are in there element! Sitting for years thinking... if i was in charge... if i was in charge (instead of adding a tartan bow to regs). They've always wanted that crisis "to take charge" & stand behind the lectern & big flag Hence the daily sturgeon show. And at the other end of the scale politicians like freeman & ferrier get to keep their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: 2 weeks- that’s the aim. Even if it’s a telephone call they will try to meet it Much appreciated. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, jonesy said: Belarus seems to be doing quite well without some podgy faced limelight seeker blethering away or their president telling us how much they want to cry. Tbh, I don’t think figures coming out of Belarus can be trusted. Podgy faced limelight seeker is an apt description. Edited October 30, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: You were wrong though Smithee. Don’t expect you to accept that, but stoners rarely do. Listerine mouth rinsing negates police drug swabs aye, OK. migjt fox the Shitey ones your work uses, but that’s it You tried to correct me that swab tests don't test for contact traces and were wrong, they react to decarboxylated THC and not it's metabolites. My work use the same ones as the police btw. Can you show me something that shows swab tests react to THC metabolites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, jonesy said: Belarus seems to be doing quite well without some podgy faced limelight seeker blethering away or their president telling us how much they want to cry. Not many then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jonesy said: No more or less than those in this country, TBH. It's like when we sit back and mock foreign football associations. This past summer's antics from Doncaster have proven that Scotland is far from immune from corruption and skullduggery. Just because our leaders don't have strange foreign names doesn't mean they're not at it. Yes we have our faults, both in Scotland and the Uk as a whole but we haven’t had the same president since 1990 and our leader can’t issue decrees that become law for an unspecified amount of time. Belarus, as a country, is a bit of a sham. edit. 1994 Edited October 30, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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