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Seymour M Hersh
1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

:oohmatron:

 

Saw a headline in a paper the other day that some bloke (38yrs old) had his pecker trapped in a padlock which in itself os only slightly remarkable nowadays. However it was his mothers comment that made me laughably loudly. He's always liked putting it through small holes.:lol:

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5 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

Agree with your first point, and confess to being a tad pedantic.

 

Below are the figures for the most recent week I can find(2 weeks ago). Delta is so dominant that the others are almost irrelevant.

My take is that the differences are not explained by competition, but because the previously dominant variants have been effectively suppressed, but Delta's 62% greater transmissibility means it hasn't been yet.

If it had been possible to keep the Delta variant out and a similar reopening pathway had been followed, the pandemic would be all but over by now.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for that. We may be talking at cross purposes or I read the thread/your post wrongly as I was generally talking about two competing active variants in places where they are actually both in with a shout, as may well become the case say in France. Talking through my arse it may well end up being the case.

 

Which area do your figures refer to? Agreed that Delta is king in that area.

 

Anyway, you've sold me on the concept of suppression in addition to competition - thanks.

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7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Thanks for that. We may be talking at cross purposes or I read the thread/your post wrongly as I was generally talking about two competing active variants in places where they are actually both in with a shout, as may well become the case say in France. Talking through my arse it may well end up being the case.

 

Which area do your figures refer to? Agreed that Delta is king in that area.

 

Anyway, you've sold me on the concept of suppression in addition to competition - thanks.

 

The figures are for UK, for the week up to 7th of July.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-variants-genomically-confirmed-case-numbers/variants-distribution-of-case-data-9-july-2021

 

Tbh I wasn't talking about anywhere specifically to start with, but used the UK as an example.

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28 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Saw a headline in a paper the other day that some bloke (38yrs old) had his pecker trapped in a padlock which in itself os only slightly remarkable nowadays. However it was his mothers comment that made me laughably loudly. He's always liked putting it through small holes.:lol:

 

Good Lord. 

 

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47 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Saw a headline in a paper the other day that some bloke (38yrs old) had his pecker trapped in a padlock which in itself os only slightly remarkable nowadays. However it was his mothers comment that made me laughably loudly. He's always liked putting it through small holes.:lol:

Was the combination to open it '1875'

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42 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Good Lord. 

 

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According to the story it was stuck for two weeks and has permanently disfigured his "do as yer telt"! :lol:

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1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Saw a headline in a paper the other day that some bloke (38yrs old) had his pecker trapped in a padlock which in itself os only slightly remarkable nowadays. However it was his mothers comment that made me laughably loudly. He's always liked putting it through small holes.:lol:

It took me a while to finally get that 😂😂 

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3 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

From a particularly layman's point of view, as far as I know if you are infected with one variant then another variant doesn't get a look in, unless it has something extra that your recently upgraded immune system is unprepared for and unable to combat. So for the different variants, assuming they are all reasonably similar in how they infect folk, it's a question of the pool of available victims. If one variant takes all the available prey, it snuffs out the other's ability to do so. So, in a way they are indeed competing with each other, but not from any "Hey, feck you, Delta! I'm Beta!" conscious approach, but simply from how quickly and effectively they can infect the pool of possible victims open to them. The variant that does this best gets the upper hand.


There was some concern that one host infected by two variants could see the viruses combine into something even more infectious/transmissbile. I haven't seen this mentioned in months so I assume in reality it is a rare occurence: https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-what-happens-when-a-person-is-simultaneously-infected-with-two-variants-154748

 

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

"Long obesity" by the sounds of things 


Greedy, lazy ****s deserved it, really. Why should we take vaccines and endure lockdowns to protect folk who don't take care of themselves.

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Back to 2005
6 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Sajid Javid has tested positive for Covid

Symptoms are "very mild" . He has a sniffle or hay fever in other words.

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Back to 2005
2 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

"Long obesity" by the sounds of things 

We need health passports for the fatties. Mimd you after 2 weeks on holiday and a less than healthy diet can I suggest its only for the real big fatties....

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Just now, Back to 2005 said:

Symptoms are "very mild" . He has a sniffle or hay fever in other words.

Yes, exactly. Does make you wonder what these PCR tests find.  

If "cases" keep rising, very soon there will be very few people susceptible to Covid. At that point, the virus will hit a wall and cases will plummet. 

The various vested-interest groups will then have to find some blood-curdling new variants, in order to maintain the panic.

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4 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

We need health passports for the fatties. Mimd you after 2 weeks on holiday and a less than healthy diet can I suggest its only for the real big fatties....

The ones that always seem to sit next to you on a plane and should really be paying for 2 seats😂

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3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The ones that always seem to sit next to you on a plane and should really be paying for 2 seats😂

😂yup! The one you see lumbering down the aisle of the plane and you think surely i can't be that unlucky! 

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Scottish numbers: 17 July 2021

Summary

  • 2,317 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+270; up from 2,190 a week ago]
  • 29,634 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+2,766]
    • 8.6% of these were positive [+0.1%]
  • 4 new reported deaths of people who have tested positive [-1]
  • 49 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+1]
  • 517 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-15]
  • 3,970,026 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,954,776 have received their second dose [+6,524; +14,574]
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Today's trend data. A slight uptick in the 7-day case rate today. Another drop in the number of Covid patients in hospital, seeing us now roughly where we were 3 days ago.

 

      7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier WHO Today Yesterday     15 Jul 14 Jul 13 Jul 12 Jul 11 Jul ... 1 May
Scotland     289 287 +2   308 321 343 340 344 ... 22
Midlothian 2 4 512 525 -13   586 624 660 647 653 ... 10
Dundee City 2 4 410 441 -31   495 527 584 589 614 ... 13
East Lothian 1 4 374 356 +18   408 429 474 463 486 ... 5
Edinburgh City 2 4 370 383 -13   405 428 465 451 468 ... 27
Angus 1 4 358 372 -14   427 445 473 448 458 ... 7
North Lanarkshire 2 4 351 337 +14   363 369 370 356 351 ... 40
Inverclyde 1 4 347 364 -17   415 443 446 451 442 ... 15
Renfrewshire 2 4 336 341 -5   350 355 355 347 353 ... 20
Glasgow City 2 4 327 332 -5   361 376 397 405 415 ... 33
Fife 1 4 319 312 +7   323 336 366 372 375 ... 32
East Renfrewshire 2 4 318 327 -9   371 395 412 425 423 ... 24
Perth & Kinross 1 4 296 283 +13   294 328 360 359 367 ... 22
West Dunbartonshire 1 4 296 289 +7   320 351 387 380 382 ... 28
West Lothian 1 4 294 282 +12   321 335 366 368 356 ... 26
Aberdeen City 1 4 273 279 -6   296 314 350 348 362 ... 13
Falkirk 1 4 259 247 +12   295 323 344 344 334 ... 23
East Dunbartonshire 2 4 249 249 0   264 282 328 337 354 ... 51
South Lanarkshire 2 4 249 237 +12   255 251 253 250 256 ... 18
Scottish Borders 1 4 216 207 +9   202 229 230 237 246 ... 6
Stirling 2 4 212 196 +16   219 226 242 248 230 ... 11
Shetland Islands 0 4 209 201 +8   183 144 109 74 65 ... 0
Highland 1 / 0 4 200 197 +3   201 199 209 218 219 ... 9
Aberdeenshire 1 4 193 194 -1   200 201 212 202 206 ... 8
South Ayrshire 2 4 190 178 +12   194 186 206 201 202 ... 25
Clackmannanshire 2 4 182 161 +21   146 167 192 196 192 ... 14
Moray 1 4 180 164 +16   160 148 125 106 96 ... 65
North Ayrshire 2 4 178 177 +1   194 211 251 251 256 ... 17
East Ayrshire 2 4 172 174 -2   179 199 219 211 222 ... 45
Dumfries & Galloway 1 4 163 142 +21   132 111 124 117 112 ... 19
Argyll & Bute 1 / 0 3 144 134 +10   140 151 172 169 158 ... 7
Na h-Eileanan Siar 0 3 90 34 +56   41 45 64 64 52 ... 0
Orkney Islands 0 3 58 81 -23   85 117 126 126 112 ... 0
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     15 Jul 14 Jul 13 Jul 12 Jul 11 Jul ... 1 May
Tests     27448 27095 +353   28304 28812 29577 29766 29608 ... 18484
Cases     2257 2239 +18   2406 2508 2674 2650 2684 ... 171
Positivity rate %     9.0 9.1 -0.1   9.3 9.5 9.9 9.7 9.9 ... 1.1
Deaths     6.1 6.6 -0.5   6.7 4.6 3.7 4.0 4.0 ... 1.3
All Vaccinations     20507 21225 -718   22418 23467 24942 26331 26571 ... 45346
1st Dose     7126 7473 -347   7955 8324 8873 9312 10118 ... 6677
2nd Dose     13381 13752 -371   14463 15143 16069 17019 16453 ... 38669
                           
Daily data                          
All in hospital     517 532 -15   543 515 506 469 444 ... 65
Non-ICU     468 484 -16   496 469 465 429 404 ... 54
ICU     49 48 +1   47 46 41 40 40 ... 11
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The Real Maroonblood
1 hour ago, Back to 2005 said:

Symptoms are "very mild" . He has a sniffle or hay fever in other words.

It’s a conspiracy.

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40 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's trend data. A slight uptick in the 7-day case rate today. Another drop in the number of Covid patients in hospital, seeing us now roughly where we were 3 days ago.

 

      7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier WHO Today Yesterday     15 Jul 14 Jul 13 Jul 12 Jul 11 Jul ... 1 May
Scotland     289 287 +2   308 321 343 340 344 ... 22
Midlothian 2 4 512 525 -13   586 624 660 647 653 ... 10
Dundee City 2 4 410 441 -31   495 527 584 589 614 ... 13
East Lothian 1 4 374 356 +18   408 429 474 463 486 ... 5
Edinburgh City 2 4 370 383 -13   405 428 465 451 468 ... 27
Angus 1 4 358 372 -14   427 445 473 448 458 ... 7
North Lanarkshire 2 4 351 337 +14   363 369 370 356 351 ... 40
Inverclyde 1 4 347 364 -17   415 443 446 451 442 ... 15
Renfrewshire 2 4 336 341 -5   350 355 355 347 353 ... 20
Glasgow City 2 4 327 332 -5   361 376 397 405 415 ... 33
Fife 1 4 319 312 +7   323 336 366 372 375 ... 32
East Renfrewshire 2 4 318 327 -9   371 395 412 425 423 ... 24
Perth & Kinross 1 4 296 283 +13   294 328 360 359 367 ... 22
West Dunbartonshire 1 4 296 289 +7   320 351 387 380 382 ... 28
West Lothian 1 4 294 282 +12   321 335 366 368 356 ... 26
Aberdeen City 1 4 273 279 -6   296 314 350 348 362 ... 13
Falkirk 1 4 259 247 +12   295 323 344 344 334 ... 23
East Dunbartonshire 2 4 249 249 0   264 282 328 337 354 ... 51
South Lanarkshire 2 4 249 237 +12   255 251 253 250 256 ... 18
Scottish Borders 1 4 216 207 +9   202 229 230 237 246 ... 6
Stirling 2 4 212 196 +16   219 226 242 248 230 ... 11
Shetland Islands 0 4 209 201 +8   183 144 109 74 65 ... 0
Highland 1 / 0 4 200 197 +3   201 199 209 218 219 ... 9
Aberdeenshire 1 4 193 194 -1   200 201 212 202 206 ... 8
South Ayrshire 2 4 190 178 +12   194 186 206 201 202 ... 25
Clackmannanshire 2 4 182 161 +21   146 167 192 196 192 ... 14
Moray 1 4 180 164 +16   160 148 125 106 96 ... 65
North Ayrshire 2 4 178 177 +1   194 211 251 251 256 ... 17
East Ayrshire 2 4 172 174 -2   179 199 219 211 222 ... 45
Dumfries & Galloway 1 4 163 142 +21   132 111 124 117 112 ... 19
Argyll & Bute 1 / 0 3 144 134 +10   140 151 172 169 158 ... 7
Na h-Eileanan Siar 0 3 90 34 +56   41 45 64 64 52 ... 0
Orkney Islands 0 3 58 81 -23   85 117 126 126 112 ... 0
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     15 Jul 14 Jul 13 Jul 12 Jul 11 Jul ... 1 May
Tests     27448 27095 +353   28304 28812 29577 29766 29608 ... 18484
Cases     2257 2239 +18   2406 2508 2674 2650 2684 ... 171
Positivity rate %     9.0 9.1 -0.1   9.3 9.5 9.9 9.7 9.9 ... 1.1
Deaths     6.1 6.6 -0.5   6.7 4.6 3.7 4.0 4.0 ... 1.3
All Vaccinations     20507 21225 -718   22418 23467 24942 26331 26571 ... 45346
1st Dose     7126 7473 -347   7955 8324 8873 9312 10118 ... 6677
2nd Dose     13381 13752 -371   14463 15143 16069 17019 16453 ... 38669
                           
Daily data                          
All in hospital     517 532 -15   543 515 506 469 444 ... 65
Non-ICU     468 484 -16   496 469 465 429 404 ... 54
ICU     49 48 +1   47 46 41 40 40 ... 11

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1 hour ago, Back to 2005 said:

😂yup! The one you see lumbering down the aisle of the plane and you think surely i can't be that unlucky! 

Obesity is one of the big ( pardon them pun) underlying health conditions of covid which makes you ill and the only one you might have the ability or inclination to change to reduce ones risk . Just sitting in KFC’ just now having a coffee I may add and saw a very obese mother buy a large bucket of greasy chicken and chips and feeding it to her 2 years old kids ! Also given them Coca Cola too . It’s all about food education really 

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38 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Obesity is one of the big ( pardon them pun) underlying health conditions of covid which makes you ill and the only one you might have the ability or inclination to change to reduce ones risk . Just sitting in KFC’ just now having a coffee I may add and saw a very obese mother buy a large bucket of greasy chicken and chips and feeding it to her 2 years old kids ! Also given them Coca Cola too . It’s all about food education really 

Diet coke is fine.

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JudyJudyJudy
11 minutes ago, Harry Potter said:

Diet coke is fine.

I wasn’t that nosey to see if it wasn’t diet 👍😎

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2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

:spoton:

 

:D It's a great day for it. I'm even indulging myself.

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Just now, jonnothejambo said:

 

On my frequent working trips to the US we used to go out for dinner with our hosts.  

 

The number of large people stuffing their faces yet drinking diet coke always made me chortle.

 

Why bother?

 

Great people though.

tbf if i had the choice of coke or diet coke i would go diet as i prefer the flavour. normal coke you can taste the syrup they use and it is too sweet

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15 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

tbf if i had the choice of coke or diet coke i would go diet as i prefer the flavour. normal coke you can taste the syrup they use and it is too sweet

Coke zero has the taste of Coke without the sweet syrup taste. It's my new favorite drink 

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36 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

On my frequent working trips to the US we used to go out for dinner with our hosts.  

 

The number of large people stuffing their faces yet drinking diet coke always made me chortle.

 

Why bother?

 

Great people though.

I can’t understand that either make me laugh seein. A big heefer male or female drinking diet drink but tuckimg into a massive feast of food ! 

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Just having a few alfresco drinks up at Bruntsfield  sans mask ! Lovely night for it ! 

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Harry Potter
41 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

On my frequent working trips to the US we used to go out for dinner with our hosts.  

 

The number of large people stuffing their faces yet drinking diet coke always made me chortle.

 

Why bother?

 

Great people though.

Prefer full sugar coke myself, the portions in the usa are bigger, my kind of place🙂.

the americans love Scotland, 

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Diet coke/Coke zero probably saves you 300 calories or so with a meal. By doing that you probably can get away with eating some fast food. Makes perfect sense. Just because you're going to town a bit doesn't mean you need to needlessly have 300 more calories for the sake of it.

 

Never drink your calories.

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6 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Diet coke/Coke zero probably saves you 300 calories or so with a meal. By doing that you probably can get away with eating some fast food. Makes perfect sense. Just because you're going to town a bit doesn't mean you need to needlessly have 300 more calories for the sake of it.

 

Never drink your calories.

That’s one thing I’ve cut out of my diet ! Sugar drinks . No worth it ! 

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3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

That’s one thing I’ve cut out of my diet ! Sugar drinks . No worth it ! 

 

 

Good choice. I used to go wild on them, now when I have one it makes me feel sick so quickly.

 

Good for a hangover though as I'm sure there's an ingredient in Coke that stops you vomiting otherwise the sugar content would make you vomit

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Enzo Chiefo
10 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Diet coke/Coke zero probably saves you 300 calories or so with a meal. By doing that you probably can get away with eating some fast food. Makes perfect sense. Just because you're going to town a bit doesn't mean you need to needlessly have 300 more calories for the sake of it.

 

Never drink your calories.

And that's the nub of the matter, Taffin. "Experts" say Mars Bars are bad, crisps etc. They're not....everything in moderation. I always reach for a Mars Bar after a 5m run. It's all about input and output, which is why trying to nudge people away from certain foods is a flawed idea.  Everyone should be responsible for eating healthily and exercising accordingly.  Those who don't, perhaps need specific help and guidance but using the tax system to nudge people in a certain direction is fundamentally flawed.

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Diet drinks are full of artificial sweeteners which bring their own problems, probably worse than just getting the sugar hit I think! The solution is to get people's taste buds used to less sweetness again, not try replicate it.

 

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10 minutes ago, kila said:

Diet drinks are full of artificial sweeteners which bring their own problems, probably worse than just getting the sugar hit I think! The solution is to get people's taste buds used to less sweetness again, not try replicate it.

 

 

 

Depends what your trying to solve. If it's obesity then diet drinks are great, offers the idea of a treat without depriving yourself, yet it's zero calories.

 

Yeh, all round wonderful health? Stick to the water.

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27 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

And that's the nub of the matter, Taffin. "Experts" say Mars Bars are bad, crisps etc. They're not....everything in moderation. I always reach for a Mars Bar after a 5m run. It's all about input and output, which is why trying to nudge people away from certain foods is a flawed idea.  Everyone should be responsible for eating healthily and exercising accordingly.  Those who don't, perhaps need specific help and guidance but using the tax system to nudge people in a certain direction is fundamentally flawed.

I still have my treats , crisps , biscuits etc and I’ll never cut out cheese ! All

in moderation really . 

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The Real Maroonblood
2 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

:D It's a great day for it. I'm even indulging myself.

It certainly is.

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JudyJudyJudy
15 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

They took offence when I tasted their Dr Pepper pish and criticised it..

😂😂

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Enzo Chiefo
1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

I still have my treats , crisps , biscuits etc and I’ll never cut out cheese ! All

in moderation really . 

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21 hours ago, Back to 2005 said:

This is the question that nobody can answer and the one that gives me the most concern.

What is happening within the MSM? Who is controlling it and what is the end game?

 

 

Reasonable questions.

 

But have you ever asked who's controlling the media you consume? Who is it that filled your head with shit about death numbers in Portugal? And why do they do it, what's their end game?

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Enzo Chiefo
28 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Reasonable questions.

 

But have you ever asked who's controlling the media you consume? Who is it that filled your head with shit about death numbers in Portugal? And why do they do it, what's their end game?

Your trust in those in power is admirable but I think we all know that Govts don't run countries, various vested interested groups like Banks, Pharma companies etc wield most of the power.  Davos has a lot to answer for.

As for SAGE, they need to be put back in the box from whence they came.

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Nucky Thompson
21 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

I would never have guessed that they were a bunch of leftie control freaks :biggrin2:

 

Thank God nobody listens to independent sage

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14 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I would never have guessed that they were a bunch of leftie control freaks :biggrin2:

 

Thank God nobody listens to independent sage

Unfortunately though their influence is huge. The likes of Michie is constantly on the BBC as she says exactly what fits their narrative.

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Back to 2005
14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

I think we have some SAGE infiltrators on this thread 

😂 even SAGE knows how influential JKB is! 

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Enzo Chiefo
5 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

Unfortunately though their influence is huge. The likes of Michie is constantly on the BBC as she says exactly what fits their narrative.

Card carrying Commie married to one of the old Corbyn supporting Union dinosaurs. Quite the CV.

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Mr Tattie Heid, double-vaccinated, urging people to get back to normal and newly in charge of the NHS, has caught the virus.

 

:rofl:

 

Couldn't script it.

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7 hours ago, Cade said:

Mr Tattie Heid, double-vaccinated, urging people to get back to normal and newly in charge of the NHS, has caught the virus.

 

:rofl:

 

Couldn't script it.

What virus?

 

It's all a SAGE, Government, Big Pharma, Lord Lucan, Elvis isn't dead conspiracy to take away wur freedums

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