Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Governor Tarkin]

10 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

the virus will have been floored by our wall of immunity long before then.

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

There's maybe 3  of them,  a triumvirate, if you will... Although one seems to be sleeping....

Hi 👋 

11 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I say pork pie,

You say Adoni,

 

 

 

Some class to this thread at last ! Ella and Louis 

1 hour ago, Aaron78 said:

Not really the point I was making, but bash on with your own extreme views. It's pretty clear where your political agenda lies.... 

 

Blaming 130k deaths on the decisions of a government to a unforseen global pandemic which has killed millions around the world is stretching it a little.  If only he'd got it right the UK would have been untouched?

 

No doubt you made some decisions during the last 18 months  which resulted in the virus spreading and ultimately killed others. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.... 

👍

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Given there are 17 countries with worse death rates than the UK, there must be a lot of world leaders who have "killed" hundreds of thousands. It's the most outlandish conspiracy theory of all time!

 

 

It’s not a coincidence that those most critical of the English Govt are fervent SNP supporters . Talk about not “ seeing the wood from the trees” 

23 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

If only health matters were a devolved power in Scotland? Oh wait a minute 

Yes per capita we have nearly done as bad as our neighbours . But I tend to it get into body counts . It’s distasteful really . 

12 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Where is the evidence that people "won't be able to work"?

Any variant,  with or without vaccine, the vast majority of people will have no or mild symptoms.  Those with other health issues or who are particularly vulnerable were more at risk from complications. 

 

The vaccine offers 94% protection against serious illness or death from any variant therefore the only people who could possibly be "locked down" at Christmas would be those for whom the vaccine doesn't work.

Even that is unlikely though as the virus will have been floored by our wall of immunity long before then.

Yes if there is any resurface the policy needs to be lock down of the vulnerable instead of the ludicrous lockdown of the healthy too . First time in any pandemic this has happened ! 

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

There's maybe 3  of them,  a triumvirate, if you will... Although one seems to be sleeping....

Just for you KVC 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Anyway ! Let’s all be positive and let’s hope that all goes well down England . We can peak from behind the safety of our curtains like Miss Sturgeon will do and hope for the best ! 

[Konrad von Carstein]

36 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Just for you KVC 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, jonesy said:

 

Hope not.

I know u love this 😂

[jack D and coke]

The ones who keep calling it a mild illness can’t know too many people who’ve had a dose. If mild then count yourself lucky. I know 3 people who’ve told me it’s the worst they’ve ever felt in their lives. All fit lads too. 
I hope all goes well in England but it is making me a bit edgy tbh. These cases go rocketing and turn into hospitalisations then we’ll have no option other than full lockdown again. That’ll be a fecking nightmare. 
My second jab Wednesday though so hopefully I’ll avoid it until that kicks in. 

 

[Victorian]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Where is the evidence that people "won't be able to work"?

Any variant,  with or without vaccine, the vast majority of people will have no or mild symptoms.  Those with other health issues or who are particularly vulnerable were more at risk from complications. 

 

The vaccine offers 94% protection against serious illness or death from any variant therefore the only people who could possibly be "locked down" at Christmas would be those for whom the vaccine doesn't work.

Even that is unlikely though as the virus will have been floored by our wall of immunity long before then.

 

Sounds braw.  Any evidence for that?

[King prawn]

That’s me vaccinated “fully” - since I had Covid in January they gave me one dose of Pfizer and put me down as having both. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

15 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

The ones who keep calling it a mild illness can’t know too many people who’ve had a dose. If mild then count yourself lucky. I know 3 people who’ve told me it’s the worst they’ve ever felt in their lives. All fit lads too. 
I hope all goes well in England but it is making me a bit edgy tbh. These cases go rocketing and turn into hospitalisations then we’ll have no option other than full lockdown again. That’ll be a fecking nightmare. 
My second jab Wednesday though so hopefully I’ll avoid it until that kicks in. 

 

Once you have had both jabs you might feel more relaxed . I’ve had both so there’s nowt more I can do to protect myself as such . The opening up is preferable to the status quo . 

[Enzo Chiefo]

21 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Sounds braw.  Any evidence for that?

Only the recent statistics showing that 90% of all UK adults have antibodies, the fact that all adults should be double dosed by Sept and the fact that Govt scientists expect herd immunity to have been achieved in the Autumn.

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Only the recent statistics showing that 90% of all UK adults have antibodies, the fact that all adults should be double dosed by Sept and the fact that Govt scientists expect herd immunity to have been achieved in the Autumn.

 

I hope you're right but there's no actual evidence of the virus being floored by a wall of immunity.  Thought I would ask,  seeing as you were asking for evidence about something else.  

 

My own opinion is that we probably need absolute maximum immunisation to ensure that.  

[JudyJudyJudy]

 

interesting. 

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/?fbclid=IwAR0OgtYRbLZb-NtM5YkeF29IvLWXpKxTxioRawrKRhMsnj9RCJSS7hppkhQ

[Shanks said no]

17 minutes ago, jonesy said:

What's the minimum recommended gap between Pfizer vaccine doses?

I thought it was 6 weeks but the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) recommends a minimum of three weeks between the first and second Pfizer dose. 

[Francis Albert]

12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

 

interesting. 

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/?fbclid=IwAR0OgtYRbLZb-NtM5YkeF29IvLWXpKxTxioRawrKRhMsnj9RCJSS7hppkhQ

It is too late for common sense and proper science.  Masks are here to stay for much of the population.

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

It is too late for common sense and proper science.  Masks are here to stay for much of the population.

True . ! Well if people want to continue to wear them that’s fine with me As Long as I’m not forced to . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

How very very 

[Enzo Chiefo]

29 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

I hope you're right but there's no actual evidence of the virus being floored by a wall of immunity.  Thought I would ask,  seeing as you were asking for evidence about something else.  

 

My own opinion is that we probably need absolute maximum immunisation to ensure that.  

Yes, of course. I appreciate there is no definitive proof that will happen.  Hopefully though.

I think either U18s will have to be vaccinated, or infected, for full herd immunity to be achieved but surely we will have a decent sized wall by the onset of winter.

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

How very very 

[DETTY29]

30 minutes ago, jonesy said:

What's the minimum recommended gap between Pfizer vaccine doses?

Sure it is 3.

 

AZ, 4.

[jack D and coke]

58 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Once you have had both jabs you might feel more relaxed . I’ve had both so there’s nowt more I can do to protect myself as such . The opening up is preferable to the status quo . 

Yeah it is. I’m not terrified or anything it has to come if we want some form of normality back I just get uneasy about all this “it’s just a mild illness”. That’s not what a few people I know have said, it’s anything but mild according to them. It’s more the arsehole it brings out in some people when that gets bandied about. 
Id hate to have to spend 10 days shut in the house too. Drive me fecking mad lol. 

[Victorian]

15 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Yes, of course. I appreciate there is no definitive proof that will happen.  Hopefully though.

I think either U18s will have to be vaccinated, or infected, for full herd immunity to be achieved but surely we will have a decent sized wall by the onset of winter.

 

Certainly hope so.  

[Enzo Chiefo]

8 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Certainly hope so.  

👍

[Jambo-Jimbo]

4 hours ago, Aaron78 said:

How did they better prepare for this forseen event and how did that aid their response? 

 

 

 

In a word, SARS.

Most of South East Asia were affected in 2002-2004 and knew it was only a matter of time before it either returned or another infection came along and had made plans & preperations for it, meanwhile in the West, we did next to nothing, mainly due to the West having had very few cases of SARS. 

[Governor Tarkin]

40 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Yeah it is. I’m not terrified or anything it has to come if we want some form of normality back I just get uneasy about all this “it’s just a mild illness”. That’s not what a few people I know have said, it’s anything but mild according to them. It’s more the arsehole it brings out in some people when that gets bandied about. 
Id hate to have to spend 10 days shut in the house too. Drive me fecking mad lol. 

 

The Mrs sister has it just now. She's had worse hangovers. Her cousin has it too and she thought it was hayfever. It seems to hit blokes worse.

 

[Governor Tarkin]

20 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

Cheers. With the drop in centres now open, looks like I'm good to go for dose 2.

 

Will check in with the obvious Gates shill @redjambo to ensure the signal from my chip is transmitting properly before going full vaxxed, however.  

 

I'm at the beach today but might swing by Gorebridge for second jab this evening.

[Brighton Jambo]

8 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

The Mrs sister has it just now. She's had worse hangovers. Her cousin has it too and she thought it was hayfever. It seems to hit blokes worse.

 

To my knowledge I have never had it.  Had a couple of periods of feeling under the weather recently but that’s it.  
 

However I can currently not eat certain types of fruit as they taste absolutely rotten.  Fruit I have eaten all my life now tastes of metallic chemicals and I can’t stomach it at all despite my wife assuring me they taste normal.  How random.  Makes me wonder if I had it and never knew and this is some weird after affect.  No way to find out so guess I will never know! 

[Brighton Jambo]

If people are looking for some positive news the following graph really does emphasise the impact of vaccines.  

[DETTY29]

32 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

Cheers. With the drop in centres now open, looks like I'm good to go for dose 2.

 

Will check in with the obvious Gates shill @redjambo to ensure the signal from my chip is transmitting properly before going full vaxxed, however.  

That's the manufacturers recommendation.

 

Whether the health board will allow you to be dosed before week 8 is another matter.

 

 

[redjambo]

38 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

Cheers. With the drop in centres now open, looks like I'm good to go for dose 2.

 

Will check in with the obvious Gates shill @redjambo to ensure the signal from my chip is transmitting properly before going full vaxxed, however.  

 

Signal coming in loud and clear. One-way data only though for some reason, we don't seem to be exercising adequate control over your behaviour as we would have wished, going by your recent posts. Don't worry, however, we'll sort that out with the second chip.

[JudyJudyJudy]

As expected the BBC has went into hysterical overdrive about “ freedom day “ even worse there was a news report about Katie Hopkins and her getting booted out of Oz . Apparently she was in quarantine and when food was delivered to her door she was to stand back wait 30 seconds then wear a mask and answer the door . However she joked that she would answer the door naked without a mask . The reporter reporting this stated she “ put the worker life at risk” if she did this !!’ This is the level of hysteria we have got too and the calibre of “ reporters “ I should add I can’t abide Katie Hopkins 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 19 July 2021

Summary

• 1,464 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-271; down from 2,134 a week ago]
• 15,660 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-3,767]
  • 10.3% of these were positive [+0.5%]
• 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [=]
• 45 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1]
• 536 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+25]
• 3,981,950 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,978,746 have received their second dose [+5,928; +12,692]

[redjambo]

Here are today's trend stats. Good fall in the overall case rate. Jump in the number of those in hospital with Covid.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO	Today	Yesterday			17 Jul	16 Jul	15 Jul	14 Jul	13 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland		271	283	-12		289	287	308	321	343	...	22
Midlothian	4	466	498	-32		512	525	586	624	660	...	10
Dundee City	4	368	413	-45		410	441	495	527	584	...	13
Edinburgh City	4	354	362	-8		370	383	405	428	465	...	27
East Lothian	4	346	365	-19		374	356	408	429	474	...	5
North Lanarkshire	4	331	348	-17		351	337	363	369	370	...	40
Renfrewshire	4	321	342	-21		336	341	350	355	355	...	20
Angus	4	310	335	-25		358	372	427	445	473	...	7
Glasgow City	4	308	320	-12		327	332	361	376	397	...	33
East Renfrewshire	4	296	318	-22		318	327	371	395	412	...	24
Fife	4	295	304	-9		319	312	323	336	366	...	32
West Lothian	4	280	291	-11		294	282	321	335	366	...	26
Inverclyde	4	279	325	-46		347	364	415	443	446	...	15
Perth & Kinross	4	269	288	-19		296	283	294	328	360	...	22
West Dunbartonshire	4	262	273	-11		296	289	320	351	387	...	28
East Dunbartonshire	4	251	245	+6		249	249	264	282	328	...	51
South Lanarkshire	4	248	253	-5		249	237	255	251	253	...	18
Falkirk	4	244	244	0		259	247	295	323	344	...	23
Aberdeen City	4	237	255	-18		273	279	296	314	350	...	13
Scottish Borders	4	209	219	-10		216	207	202	229	230	...	6
Clackmannanshire	4	206	206	0		182	161	146	167	192	...	14
Highland	4	194	202	-8		200	197	201	199	209	...	9
Shetland Islands	4	192	209	-17		209	201	183	144	109	...	0
South Ayrshire	4	188	191	-3		190	178	194	186	206	...	25
Stirling	4	188	195	-7		212	196	219	226	242	...	11
East Ayrshire	4	184	177	+7		172	174	179	199	219	...	45
Moray	4	182	188	-6		180	164	160	148	125	...	65
Aberdeenshire	4	173	182	-9		193	194	200	201	212	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	4	168	161	+7		163	142	132	111	124	...	19
North Ayrshire	4	153	162	-9		178	177	194	211	251	...	17
Argyll & Bute	3	143	142	+1		144	134	140	151	172	...	7
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	67	86	-19		90	34	41	45	64	...	0
Orkney Islands	2	49	58	-9		58	81	85	117	126	...	0
7-day averages		Today	Yesterday			17 Jul	16 Jul	15 Jul	14 Jul	13 Jul	...	1 May
Tests		26522	27332	-810		27448	27095	28304	28812	29577	...	18484
Cases		2116	2212	-96		2257	2239	2406	2508	2674	...	171
Positivity rate %		8.8	8.9	-0.1		9.0	9.1	9.3	9.5	9.9	...	1.1
Deaths		6.1	6.1	0.0		6.1	6.6	6.7	4.6	3.7	...	1.3
All Vaccinations		19003	19477	-474		20507	21225	22418	23467	24942	...	45346
1st Dose		6792	6802	-10		7126	7473	7955	8324	8873	...	6677
2nd Dose		12211	12675	-464		13381	13752	14463	15143	16069	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital		536	511	+25		517	532	543	515	506	...	65
Non-ICU		491	465	+26		468	484	496	469	465	...	54
ICU		45	46	-1		49	48	47	46	41	...	11

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, redjambo said:

Here are today's trend stats. Good fall in the overall case rate. Jump in the number of those in hospital with Covid.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO	Today	Yesterday			17 Jul	16 Jul	15 Jul	14 Jul	13 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland		271	283	-12		289	287	308	321	343	...	22
Midlothian	4	466	498	-32		512	525	586	624	660	...	10
Dundee City	4	368	413	-45		410	441	495	527	584	...	13
Edinburgh City	4	354	362	-8		370	383	405	428	465	...	27
East Lothian	4	346	365	-19		374	356	408	429	474	...	5
North Lanarkshire	4	331	348	-17		351	337	363	369	370	...	40
Renfrewshire	4	321	342	-21		336	341	350	355	355	...	20
Angus	4	310	335	-25		358	372	427	445	473	...	7
Glasgow City	4	308	320	-12		327	332	361	376	397	...	33
East Renfrewshire	4	296	318	-22		318	327	371	395	412	...	24
Fife	4	295	304	-9		319	312	323	336	366	...	32
West Lothian	4	280	291	-11		294	282	321	335	366	...	26
Inverclyde	4	279	325	-46		347	364	415	443	446	...	15
Perth & Kinross	4	269	288	-19		296	283	294	328	360	...	22
West Dunbartonshire	4	262	273	-11		296	289	320	351	387	...	28
East Dunbartonshire	4	251	245	+6		249	249	264	282	328	...	51
South Lanarkshire	4	248	253	-5		249	237	255	251	253	...	18
Falkirk	4	244	244	0		259	247	295	323	344	...	23
Aberdeen City	4	237	255	-18		273	279	296	314	350	...	13
Scottish Borders	4	209	219	-10		216	207	202	229	230	...	6
Clackmannanshire	4	206	206	0		182	161	146	167	192	...	14
Highland	4	194	202	-8		200	197	201	199	209	...	9
Shetland Islands	4	192	209	-17		209	201	183	144	109	...	0
South Ayrshire	4	188	191	-3		190	178	194	186	206	...	25
Stirling	4	188	195	-7		212	196	219	226	242	...	11
East Ayrshire	4	184	177	+7		172	174	179	199	219	...	45
Moray	4	182	188	-6		180	164	160	148	125	...	65
Aberdeenshire	4	173	182	-9		193	194	200	201	212	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	4	168	161	+7		163	142	132	111	124	...	19
North Ayrshire	4	153	162	-9		178	177	194	211	251	...	17
Argyll & Bute	3	143	142	+1		144	134	140	151	172	...	7
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	67	86	-19		90	34	41	45	64	...	0
Orkney Islands	2	49	58	-9		58	81	85	117	126	...	0
7-day averages		Today	Yesterday			17 Jul	16 Jul	15 Jul	14 Jul	13 Jul	...	1 May
Tests		26522	27332	-810		27448	27095	28304	28812	29577	...	18484
Cases		2116	2212	-96		2257	2239	2406	2508	2674	...	171
Positivity rate %		8.8	8.9	-0.1		9.0	9.1	9.3	9.5	9.9	...	1.1
Deaths		6.1	6.1	0.0		6.1	6.6	6.7	4.6	3.7	...	1.3
All Vaccinations		19003	19477	-474		20507	21225	22418	23467	24942	...	45346
1st Dose		6792	6802	-10		7126	7473	7955	8324	8873	...	6677
2nd Dose		12211	12675	-464		13381	13752	14463	15143	16069	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital		536	511	+25		517	532	543	515	506	...	65
Non-ICU		491	465	+26		468	484	496	469	465	...	54
ICU		45	46	-1		49	48	47	46	41	...	11

👍

[JudyJudyJudy]

56 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I'm at the beach today but might swing by Gorebridge for second jab this evening.

Remember the sunscreen ! 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

I’m all for healthy debate about the rights and wrongs of how this has been handled but these idiots in London are neds who need to **** off

[manaliveits105]

2 hours ago, Francis Albert said:

It is too late for common sense and proper science.  Masks are here to stay for much of the population.

The mask of Sorrow 

some of our doom mongers will never give them up - ugliness must be a burden to be fair 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

36 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

As expected the BBC has went into hysterical overdrive about “ freedom day “ even worse there was a news report about Katie Hopkins and her getting booted out of Oz . Apparently she was in quarantine and when food was delivered to her door she was to stand back wait 30 seconds then wear a mask and answer the door . However she joked that she would answer the door naked without a mask . The reporter reporting this stated she “ put the worker life at risk” if she did this !!’ This is the level of hysteria we have got too and the calibre of “ reporters “ I should add I can’t abide Katie Hopkins 

If this is an injustice, a stroke of luck that it’s happened to her 

 

[Taffin]

1 hour ago, jonesy said:

 

Are there rules on this? All I've seen is the publicity re drop-in centres, but nothing on prohibitions. Is there a contact site/number?

 

 

I'm in England so not sure if it's different but I can confirm I had my second dose (booked, not via drop in or hanging around a centre like a loon) less than 8 weeks apart.

[Taffin]

41 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

I’m all for healthy debate about the rights and wrongs of how this has been handled but these idiots in London are neds who need to **** off

 

Did you mean to post this a month ago? 

 

Or has something else happened today?

[JudyJudyJudy]

45 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

The mask of Sorrow 

some of our doom mongers will never give them up - ugliness must be a burden to be fair 

👍

[Francis Albert]

News from freedom day in London.  Almost everyone still wearing masks in the supermarket but no-one including me challenged for not doing so. Still many (half) fully masked walking down the street. And still some alone in their cars or with their spouse and/or kids. The only  significant change for me is that I could order a drink, receive it and pay for it at the bar rather than sit around waiting for someone to offer to "table serve".  Two pubs in the high street closed because of the NHS App pinging staff.

Edited July 19, 2021 by Francis Albert

[communist]

8 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

News from freedom day in London.  Almost everyone still wearing masks in the supermarket but no-one including me challenged for not doing so. Still many (half) fully masked walking down the street. And still some alone in their cars or with their spouse and/or kids. The only  significant change for me is that I could order a drink, receive it and pay for it at the bar rather than sit around waiting for someone to offer to "table serve".  Two pubs in the high street closed because of the NHS App pinging staff.

Nice to hear FA.

 

I’ll be ditching my mask up here as soon as it’s not mandatory too. Absolute token gestures at best. So sick of all this nonsense now.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

21 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Did you mean to post this a month ago? 

 

Or has something else happened today?

Kicking off at another lockdown protest today 

[Taffin]

1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Kicking off at another lockdown protest today 

 

 

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ 

 

At those kicking off.

[jack D and coke]

Tesco in Musselburgh got the walk in thing today until 7pm if anybody interested. Gonna go get my second one today instead of waiting till weds.  

[Brighton Jambo]

2 hours ago, jonesy said:

 

Are there rules on this? All I've seen is the publicity re drop-in centres, but nothing on prohibitions. Is there a contact site/number?

If you turn up before the 8 weeks is up they will turn you away.  It has to be after the 8 weeks.  

[Shanks said no]

19 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

If you turn up before the 8 weeks is up they will turn you away.  It has to be after the 8 weeks.  

Not correct- Mrs F 31 March and 18 May = less than 8 weeks, both appointments given to her by NHS Scotland 

Edited July 19, 2021 by The Frenchman Returns
Put in wrong date

[Governor Tarkin]

15 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

If you turn up before the 8 weeks is up they will turn you away.  It has to be after the 8 weeks.  

 

I've just turned up seven and a half weeks since the first jag and been second dosed no problem. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

48 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Sounds like people are exercising their own judgement in a reasonably sound and sensible way. I get the feeling some folk quietly enjoy the mask wearing in a Niles-Crane-handkerchief-over-the-coffee-shop-chair kind of germaphobe way. No problem with that as long as they don't expect everyone to be as neurotic as they are.

 

NHS app 'pingdemic' is an interesting one. We were refused entry to a restaurant in Chester on Saturday because we didn't have it (wife has never bothered downloading it, the other couple we were with don't have it despite being very pro-mask and pro-lockdown restrictions, and I don't even have a smartphone). I'm cool with businesses adopting their own rules over this, but I worry about the technology and its inherently binary view of the world. Things could get interesting with access to places being based on your ability to provide 'evidence' from your mobile phone in the coming months.

I deleted that app month ago .