Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[steve123]

1 hour ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day stats, with the Lothian council areas welcomed back into the main table. Significant drop in the national 7-day case rate, other indicators heading in the right direction. Noticeable switch from first to second vaccinations.

 

		Pre-	7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Lockdown	Today	Yesterday			30 Mar	29 Mar	28 Mar	27 Mar	26 Mar	...	1 Mar
Scotland			59	65	-6		67	69	69	71	70	...	78
Clackmannanshire	4	3	233	206	+27		175	138	111	97	74	...	126
West Lothian	4	3	129	N/A	N/A		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	128
North Lanarkshire	4	3	117	133	-16		134	141	136	141	134	...	122
Renfrewshire	4	3	103	104	-1		102	100	98	92	88	...	121
Falkirk	4	2	90	94	-4		96	93	90	91	93	...	162
Glasgow City	4	3	81	84	-3		91	94	100	105	105	...	113
East Ayrshire	4	3	72	64	+8		54	57	50	40	34	...	88
North Ayrshire	4	3	71	83	-12		78	79	80	82	85	...	74
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	66	71	-5		73	87	83	93	82	...	128
Dundee City	4	3	64	78	-14		80	77	78	94	99	...	70
South Lanarkshire	4	3	62	69	-7		71	71	72	74	74	...	96
Stirling	4	3	58	56	+2		53	54	58	54	51	...	155
Midlothian	4	3	57	N/A	N/A		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	106
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	56	69	-13		75	79	73	72	64	...	77
Moray	4	1	56	65	-9		75	87	83	85	72	...	38
Embra	4	3	50	N/A	N/A		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	67
East Renfrewshire	4	3	45	67	-22		76	81	88	89	95	...	75
Aberdeen City	4	3	44	47	-3		46	46	44	46	45	...	29
Angus	4	2	42	43	-1		40	40	40	36	31	...	46
Fife	4	3	42	46	-4		48	50	50	51	54	...	58
East Lothian	4	3	37	N/A	N/A		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	95
Perth & Kinross	4	3	36	43	-7		51	48	49	52	61	...	60
Aberdeenshire	4	3	28	30	-2		29	31	33	34	35	...	18
Inverclyde	4	2	21	23	-2		21	31	31	36	37	...	55
South Ayrshire	4	3	19	25	-6		26	28	34	37	44	...	49
Scottish Borders	4	1	11	12	-1		11	11	9	8	5	...	15
Shetland Islands	3	1	9	13	-4		9	31	31	26	39	...	0
Argyll & Bute	4/3	2	7	7	0		6	2	2	1	2	...	17
Highland	4/3	1	7	11	-4		11	11	12	14	16	...	30
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	5	8	-3		13	19	19	23	21	...	32
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	11	11	11	...	34
Orkney Islands	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	0	4	4	...	0
7-day averages
Tests			21722	22578	-856		22228	21906	21664	22147	21351	...	18830
Positivity rate %			2.4	2.5	-0.1		2.6	2.7	2.8	2.8	2.8	...	3.8
Hospital (non-ICU)			235	247	-12		257	270	281	292	303	...	852
ICU			23	25	-2		26	27	28	30	30	...	83
Deaths			5	6	-1		5	5	5	5	5	...	26
All Vaccinations			49063	45566	+3497		46357	46941	47558	51567	47822		29659
1st Dose			29659	30494	-835		31675	32489	34396	39040	36625		23727
2nd Dose			19404	15072	+4332		14682	14452	13162	12527	11197		5932

Going by this with another month to go the country should be coming out at level 2 or below 🍻

[Footballfirst]

1 minute ago, willie wallace said:

That must be a new record for vaccinations and by some distance👍

The previous single day record was reported on 12 February (64878 / 361).

[DETTY29]

23 minutes ago, willie wallace said:

That must be a new record for vaccinations and by some distance👍

Centre I am helping out at isn't any busier this week, indeed appts probably 20% down today compared to same day last week. (First jags only being administered)

 

Edit - across Scotland though 346k last 7 days compared to 330k, 7 days previous.

 

 

Edited April 1, 2021 by DETTY29

[willie wallace]

4 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Centre I am helping out at isn't any busier this week, indeed appts probably 20% down today compared to comparison last week.

Ok,so today's total may well include some numbers from previous days.

The 2nd dosage total does seem extremely high.

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, DETTY29 said:

Centre I am helping out at isn't any busier this week, indeed appts probably 20% down today compared to comparison last week.

 

Data issues yet again. 🙃

 

Thanks for the heads-up, Detty. It takes a wee bit of the gloss off today's vaccination figures as the GPs will almost exclusively be doing second jabs now I imagine and this may therefore explain the large figure for second jabs today, but I'm sure we'll see how the situation goes over the next few days.

[DETTY29]

Just now, willie wallace said:

Ok,so today's total may well include some numbers from previous days.

The 2nd dosage total does seem extremely high.

Yep and with it being a GP link to system issue makes sense as GPs will now be doing second doses.

[redjambo]

11 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Yep and with it being a GP link to system issue makes sense as GPs will now be doing second doses.

 

Looking on the bright side, they found the issue now and not further down the line.

[Nucky Thompson]

36 minutes ago, steve123 said:

Going by this with another month to go the country should be coming out at level 2 or below 🍻

We shouldn't be going back into tiers. It's a fecking farce

[Fxxx the SPFL]

1 hour ago, redjambo said:

 

 

that cheered me up Red i wonder if i started jogging with that on i would experience something else 

[Victorian]

I've heard of a few examples of recent AZ jabbed people in Forth Valley region who have experienced pretty grim side effects lasting days.  Apparently there's local social media chat about it being a thing in the area.  

Edited April 1, 2021 by Victorian

[Toxteth O'Grady]

2 hours ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

Excellent statistics and thanks Red

 

At this rate Clackmannanshire will have more cases than the rest of Scotland put together soon

Has anyone sussed out why Clackmannanshire is so high?

[scott herbertson]

12 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

Has anyone sussed out why Clackmannanshire is so high?

 

 

Had a look at the Alloa and Hillfoots Advertiser

 

You can get half price bike hire , but no mention of any particular covid outbreaks, just good news stuff about vaccinations

[Fxxx the SPFL]

2 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Don't know how you manage these walks Ray. 

 

In the trees I reckon.

from work Broomhouse to Trinity (posh fecker not) six miles i usually walk along the side of the tram path to Balgreen then round the back of Murrayfield, Roseburn Park, Roseburn Cliffs along the water of Leith to Stockbridge then up Arboretum Road and home. However since lockdown i now head to Haymarket were i pop into the station and usually one of the staff let me through the barrier to use the shunkie and that usually allows me to make it home before i need another pish. When boozers open back up it's not a problem for pish stops Tynie Arms occasionally Roseburn Bar the barman in there can be a bit of a pain at times and gives me the evil stare. Platform 5 is perfect straight up the stairs and down to the lavvies. Robertsons in Rose Street straight down the stairs so bar staff can't see me lol. High blood pressure tablets have a lot to answer for roll on 26th April.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

12 minutes ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

Had a look at the Alloa and Hillfoots Advertiser

 

You can get half price bike hire , but no mention of any particular covid outbreaks, just good news stuff about vaccinations

I blame the bikes then! 

[scott herbertson]

3 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

I blame the bikes then! 

 

 

It's a logical conclusion from the facts available to you!

 

(same kind of thinking that produces most of the 'theories' on here!)

[redjambo]

2 hours ago, **** the SPFL said:

that cheered me up Red i wonder if i started jogging with that on i would experience something else 

 

We have to get what we can take in these challenging times, FtS.

[3fingersreid]

Sadly lost an old workmate to covid tonight ☹️
Think it was picked up from a guy he worked with who didn’t know he was positive . 

[CavySlaveJambo]

6 hours ago, milky_26 said:

the issue with that might be second vaccines and people being booked in for their second jab at those centres thus the AZ might need to be there. unless they will now end up having multiple vaccines to cover this?

I’ve heard someone on the west coast has been told they may get a different second vaccine than the one they got for their first. 

[Footballfirst]

A step in the right direction if not a definitive outcome, as yet.

 

Pfizer Inc and BioNTech said new clinical trial data signalled that their COVID-19 vaccine could protect against the new coronavirus variant first discovered in South Africa.

The shot was 100 percent effective in preventing illness among trial participants in South Africa, where the new B1351 coronavirus variant is dominant, the companies said. The South Africa trial was relatively small, with 800 participants.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said:

Sadly lost an old workmate to covid tonight ☹️
Think it was picked up from a guy he worked with who didn’t know he was positive . 

Sorry to hear that Rab. ❤️

[Ulysses]

14 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Yes there is.

 

The Government pass liability from drug companies to themselves whenever a drug is granted emergency use.

I was reading about it last year and it's not a new thing as it's happened before from time to time, just that it's usually not in the full public glare, unlike covid-19 vaccines are. 

And it's not just the UK as the law is an EU law which the UK has adopted, so I'd think Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc etc will all be doing exactly the same as the UK has done in terms of liability.

https://fullfact.org/health/unlicensed-vaccine-manufacturers-are-immune-some-not-all-civil-liability/

 

Everybody who receives a covid-19 vaccine in the UK is covered under the 'Vaccine Damage Payments Scheme' (VDPS), if in the very unlikely event that they suffer serious illness from the vaccine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme

 

 

 

That's not quite the case on the liability issue.  The bit of law that is common refers to the new use of drugs that a national licensing authority is recommending to deal with a specific health threat.  In other words, if the EMA or a national drugs approval board approves an unlicensed vaccine or a drug on a fast-track or emergency basis.  The EU hasn't done that, so the EU and the member states are not liable for damage caused by the approved vaccines.  It was one of the factors that led to the EU taking longer to reach agreements.  Another was price; the EU doses are cheaper than the UK and US doses.  If member states used unapproved vaccines, it is up to them to negotiate prices and liability arrangements with manufacturers.  Hungary has used one vaccine not approved by the EMA, but I couldn't tell you what they negotiated with the suppliers.

[3fingersreid]

8 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

Sorry to hear that Rab. ❤️

Cheers Dave .

[Nucky Thompson]

Stay local. What a load of shite.

Naga tied the Dentist in knots this morning without even trying 

[Taffin]

Making the most of meeting up on this long weekend. Off to our friends garden today for a BBQ and some beers before doing similar with my girlfriend's family on the Sunday.

 

Lots of long driving due to no overnight stays but well worth it.

[stevie]

11 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

Sadly lost an old workmate to covid tonight ☹️
Think it was picked up from a guy he worked with who didn’t know he was positive . 

Sad to hear that,I think it’s something that get lost in the “work at home” and “lockdown” mantra.A large percentage of people have worked through the pandemic and are therefore at more risk.I can be in several different properties on any given day and as much as I try to carry out safe practices,I’m reliant on those around me to be doing the same.I’ve refused to enter a few places inc schools.
Sites are particularly difficult as it’s impossible to be “socially distant” whilst doing your job.
 

[The Real Maroonblood]

14 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Stay local. What a load of shite.

Naga tied the Dentist in knots this morning without even trying 

Stay local is a lot of shite.

That’s a step too far.

[Harry Potter]

New test centre opening at Drumbrae Leisure centre, hopefully i wont require the service.

[Victorian]

No point getting too wound up about stay local.  It's essentially a guidance thing.  They're probably just trying to avoid a big free for all of people travelling around the country.  Stay local will prevent a proportion of people from moving around and those who want to will do so.  I'm sure they're keenly aware that people will be travelling around.

[Nucky Thompson]

1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Stay local is a lot of shite.

That’s a step too far.

There's no difference to what was already in place.

The dentist was going on about if you lived in the highland region, it's a huge place and you could climb different mountains 

I don't stay in the highlands, I stay in the city of Edinburgh and I could get a fine for taking my dog to the beach at east Lothian.

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

There's no difference to what was already in place.

The dentist was going on about if you lived in the highland region, it's a huge place and you could climb different mountains 

I don't stay in the highlands, I stay in the city of Edinburgh and I could get a fine for taking my dog to the beach at east Lothian.

 

Farcical. 

The thing is they know perfectly well that people will travel outside their local authority. 

They don't want give people the go ahead.

[Nucky Thompson]

2 minutes ago, Victorian said:

No point getting too wound up about stay local.  It's essentially a guidance thing.  They're probably just trying to avoid a big free for all of people travelling around the country.  Stay local will prevent a proportion of people from moving around and those who want to will do so.  I'm sure they're keenly aware that people will be travelling around.

It's guidance to stay local, but it's still law to stay in a tier 4 area and not go to another tier. 

It makes no sense 

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, Victorian said:

No point getting too wound up about stay local.  It's essentially a guidance thing.  They're probably just trying to avoid a big free for all of people travelling around the country.  Stay local will prevent a proportion of people from moving around and those who want to will do so.  I'm sure they're keenly aware that people will be travelling around.

That's it.

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

It's guidance to stay local, but it's still law to stay in a tier 4 area and not go to another tier. 

It makes no sense 

 

Feel for you lot under the tier system 👎👎

Edited April 2, 2021 by Taffin

[Nucky Thompson]

9 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Feel for you lot under the tier system 👎👎

Sturgeon is going to have us under the system until the end of June when she 'hopes' we can all go to level 0

[Taffin]

4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Sturgeon is going to have us under the system until the end of June when she 'hopes' we can all go to level 0

 

I suppose it's the cost of having been allowed stuff like golf for a while longer. Maybe I'm being too generous and it's just an extension of the extreme caution

Edited April 2, 2021 by Taffin

[Jambo-Jimbo]

9 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

That's not quite the case on the liability issue.  The bit of law that is common refers to the new use of drugs that a national licensing authority is recommending to deal with a specific health threat.  In other words, if the EMA or a national drugs approval board approves an unlicensed vaccine or a drug on a fast-track or emergency basis.  The EU hasn't done that, so the EU and the member states are not liable for damage caused by the approved vaccines.  It was one of the factors that led to the EU taking longer to reach agreements.  Another was price; the EU doses are cheaper than the UK and US doses.  If member states used unapproved vaccines, it is up to them to negotiate prices and liability arrangements with manufacturers.  Hungary has used one vaccine not approved by the EMA, but I couldn't tell you what they negotiated with the suppliers.

 

I had just assumed that with it being an EU law EU countries would have applied it/be bound by it.

 

Thanks for clarifiying the correct situation.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

23 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Farcical. 

The thing is they know perfectly well that people will travel outside their local authority. 

They don't want give people the go ahead.

 

My town is crawling with mountain bikers today, and they ain't locals either, that's for sure.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

My town is crawling with mountain bikers today, and they ain't locals either, that's for sure.

No surprise there. 

[Victorian]

The ****ing nick of Brazil.   Now they're recycling old cemeteries to free up space to bury their latest dead.  What a state they're in.  I wonder how much worse it will get there before it inevitably takes a turn for the better.  I imagine Brazil is the number one subject for the scientists to keep an eye on.  

[frankblack]

1 hour ago, Harry Potter said:

New test centre opening at Drumbrae Leisure centre, hopefully i wont require the service.

Same. That is local to me.  Getting my first jag at Gyle on Tuesday.

[Victorian]

Belgian police had to break up a 2,000 strong crowd who had gathered at a fake music festival announced as an April Fools joke.  Some shouted "freedom" at the police and chucked stuff at them.  Geez freedom to be at oor music festival wot izny happening.

 

[Harry Potter]

42 minutes ago, frankblack said:

Same. That is local to me.  Getting my first jag at Gyle on Tuesday.

Had my 1st 2 weeks ago up at Sighthill, very quick and good parking.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

The ****ing nick of Brazil.   Now they're recycling old cemeteries to free up space to bury their latest dead.  What a state they're in.  I wonder how much worse it will get there before it inevitably takes a turn for the better.  I imagine Brazil is the number one subject for the scientists to keep an eye on.  

 

Yup, been watching the situation with increasing concern.

 

The numbers are staggering, daily deaths in excess of 3000, almost 4000 the other day, over 60,000 in the month of March alone, and almost all are from the so called Manaus variant, which seems to be hitting younger people in the 30's & 40's age group, it also doesn't seem to matter if you've had covid before as that doesn't seem to be offering much protection from the Manaus variant.

 

Something to keep a close eye on.

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 2 April 2021

Summary

• 414 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+14; down from 543 a week ago]
• 23,818 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 2.0% of these were positive [-2,138; +0.2%]
• 4 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-4]
• 2,515,748 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 414,540 have received their second dose [+22.421; +15,478]

[redjambo]

Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			57	59	-2		65	67	69	69	71	...	78
7-day averages
Tests			21570	21722	-152		22578	22228	21906	21664	22147	...	18830
Positivity rate %			2.3	2.4	-0.1		2.5	2.6	2.7	2.8	2.8	...	3.8
Deaths			5	5	0		6	5	5	5	5	...	26
All Vaccinations			46806	49063	-2257		45566	46357	46941	47558	51567		29659
1st Dose			27559	29659	-2100		30494	31675	32489	34396	39040		23727
2nd Dose			19247	19404	-157		15072	14682	14452	13162	12527		5932

[redjambo]

I can't properly edit the post above, so here's the info with the dates added:

 

			Today	Yesterday			31 Mar	30 Mar	29 Mar	28 Mar	27 Mar	...	1 Mar
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			57	59	-2		65	67	69	69	71	...	78
7-day averages
Tests			21570	21722	-152		22578	22228	21906	21664	22147	...	18830
Positivity rate %			2.3	2.4	-0.1		2.5	2.6	2.7	2.8	2.8	...	3.8
Deaths			5	5	0		6	5	5	5	5	...	26
All Vaccinations			46806	49063	-2257		45566	46357	46941	47558	51567		29659
1st Dose			27559	29659	-2100		30494	31675	32489	34396	39040		23727
2nd Dose			19247	19404	-157		15072	14682	14452	13162	12527		5932

[scott herbertson]

8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

I can't properly edit the post above, so here's the info with the dates added:

 

			Today	Yesterday			31 Mar	30 Mar	29 Mar	28 Mar	27 Mar	...	1 Mar
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			57	59	-2		65	67	69	69	71	...	78
7-day averages
Tests			21570	21722	-152		22578	22228	21906	21664	22147	...	18830
Positivity rate %			2.3	2.4	-0.1		2.5	2.6	2.7	2.8	2.8	...	3.8
Deaths			5	5	0		6	5	5	5	5	...	26
All Vaccinations			46806	49063	-2257		45566	46357	46941	47558	51567		29659
1st Dose			27559	29659	-2100		30494	31675	32489	34396	39040		23727
2nd Dose			19247	19404	-157		15072	14682	14452	13162	12527		5932

 

 

Thanks RJ - all looking good in terms of the continuing fall in cases, deaths  etc

[The Real Maroonblood]

18 minutes ago, redjambo said:

I can't properly edit the post above, so here's the info with the dates added:

 

			Today	Yesterday			31 Mar	30 Mar	29 Mar	28 Mar	27 Mar	...	1 Mar
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			57	59	-2		65	67	69	69	71	...	78
7-day averages
Tests			21570	21722	-152		22578	22228	21906	21664	22147	...	18830
Positivity rate %			2.3	2.4	-0.1		2.5	2.6	2.7	2.8	2.8	...	3.8
Deaths			5	5	0		6	5	5	5	5	...	26
All Vaccinations			46806	49063	-2257		45566	46357	46941	47558	51567		29659
1st Dose			27559	29659	-2100		30494	31675	32489	34396	39040		23727
2nd Dose			19247	19404	-157		15072	14682	14452	13162	12527		5932

👍

[Footballfirst]

You may recall me tracking the case numbers for children since schools reopened for the youngest ones on 22nd February.  The latest stats show that the number of cases is continuing to rise as more kids return to school.

 

	Week Ending
Age Group	21-Feb	28-Feb	07-Mar	14-Mar	21-Mar	28-Mar	Change
2-4	94	94	107	148	162	131	39%
5-11	226	227	281	384	423	487	115%
12-15	152	114	118	127	131	174	14%
16-17	79	95	67	67	97	110	39%
18-19	177	114	114	134	147	139	-21%

 

It's worth noting that the above age groups represented 12.8% of all cases in Scotland for the week ending 21st February. That proportion has risen to 27.6% in the latest week.  In some ways that is encouraging, as case numbers have to be falling faster in the older age groups for the overall numbers to be falling, as they have done for the last three weeks. 

[Byyy The Light]

1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Yup, been watching the situation with increasing concern.

 

The numbers are staggering, daily deaths in excess of 3000, almost 4000 the other day, over 60,000 in the month of March alone, and almost all are from the so called Manaus variant, which seems to be hitting younger people in the 30's & 40's age group, it also doesn't seem to matter if you've had covid before as that doesn't seem to be offering much protection from the Manaus variant.

 

Something to keep a close eye on.

Is there any information about vaccine efficiency against this variant?