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53 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

 

Did you get the AZ, your have any side effects? 

 

Wasn’t sure if younger people brush it off easier.

 

Ideally want the Modena tbh.


Think I’m closer in age to you and I had a sore arm the day after and slight tiredness that was about it, slept and ate well. 

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UK regulator finds a 0.00006% risk of blood clots with AZ vaccine (thelondoneconomic.com)

 

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has identified 30 cases of blood clot events after 18.1 million doses of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine were administered.

The regulator has been examining potential links between the vaccine and rare blood clots after reports in Europe led to its roll-out being paused.

It identified 30 cases out of 18.1 million doses of the jab administered up to and including March 24, with seven deaths among them.

 

But it is not known whether these cases have occurred as a result of the jab, or whether they would have happened naturally in the population anyway, and people are being urged to continue coming forward for the jab as the benefits far outweigh the risks.

 

The 30 cases in the UK include 22 reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) and eight of other thrombosis events with low platelets.

CVST clots stop blood draining from the brain properly.

A number of countries have imposed restrictions on the use of the jab in younger adults.

But the head of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has said there is “no evidence” to support restricting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in any population.

The view is echoed by the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has urged countries to continue using the jab.

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Just now, CJGJ said:

UK regulator finds a 0.00006% risk of blood clots with AZ vaccine (thelondoneconomic.com)

 

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has identified 30 cases of blood clot events after 18.1 million doses of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine were administered.

The regulator has been examining potential links between the vaccine and rare blood clots after reports in Europe led to its roll-out being paused.

It identified 30 cases out of 18.1 million doses of the jab administered up to and including March 24, with seven deaths among them.

 

But it is not known whether these cases have occurred as a result of the jab, or whether they would have happened naturally in the population anyway, and people are being urged to continue coming forward for the jab as the benefits far outweigh the risks.

 

The 30 cases in the UK include 22 reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) and eight of other thrombosis events with low platelets.

CVST clots stop blood draining from the brain properly.

A number of countries have imposed restrictions on the use of the jab in younger adults.

But the head of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has said there is “no evidence” to support restricting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in any population.

The view is echoed by the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has urged countries to continue using the jab.

 

Isn't there some prick in the EU that is claiming he knows there is a link but can't prove it?

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3 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

UK regulator finds a 0.00006% risk of blood clots with AZ vaccine (thelondoneconomic.com)

 

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has identified 30 cases of blood clot events after 18.1 million doses of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine were administered.

The regulator has been examining potential links between the vaccine and rare blood clots after reports in Europe led to its roll-out being paused.

It identified 30 cases out of 18.1 million doses of the jab administered up to and including March 24, with seven deaths among them.

 

But it is not known whether these cases have occurred as a result of the jab, or whether they would have happened naturally in the population anyway, and people are being urged to continue coming forward for the jab as the benefits far outweigh the risks.

 

The 30 cases in the UK include 22 reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) and eight of other thrombosis events with low platelets.

CVST clots stop blood draining from the brain properly.

A number of countries have imposed restrictions on the use of the jab in younger adults.

But the head of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has said there is “no evidence” to support restricting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in any population.

The view is echoed by the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has urged countries to continue using the jab.


:lol: 0.00006%. compare that to c. 0.1% for the contraceptive pill. Don’t see them being stopped. 

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7 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Won't that just be Pfizer for new people, and AZ for those that had it before?  Pretty sure they reserve stock for second jags.

Would imagine so.

 

1st jags started on 01 March so 1st lot of 2nd AZs likely anytime from 3rd May onwards.

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8 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Isn't there some prick in the EU that is claiming he knows there is a link but can't prove it?


This him?

 

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Just now, frankblack said:

 

Apparently the guy doing it has been shot down by his own agency despite this arse shooting his mouth off!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/06/ema-denies-already-finding-causal-link-astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots


Thanks. 
 

You can probably find tenuous links between anything.
 

For every “bacon causes cancer” story you get you could probably find a “bacon prevents cancer” link. 

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On 02/04/2021 at 21:08, redjambo said:

 

:D

 

I love how the Dumfries & Galloway one is going for that Jamaican look.

It's not as imaginative as Argyle & Bute's fried eggs effort.

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3 minutes ago, Lemongrab said:

It's not as imaginative as Argyle & Bute's fried eggs effort.

 

:D Not to be looked at too closely if you're drunk.

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Jambo-Jimbo
16 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Apparently the guy doing it has been shot down by his own agency despite this arse shooting his mouth off!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/06/ema-denies-already-finding-causal-link-astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots

 

In an already jittery, frightened & sceptical European public, these type of statements do untold damage.

 

Even if there was a link, the risks are so miniscule that people probably have a higher chance of dying on their way to get the jab than from the jab.

 

IMO there is a substained campaign to discredit the AZ/Oxford vaccine.

 

 

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Breaking news

 

 

Oxford-AZ vaccine trial on children paused while UK regulator investigates possible link to rare blood clots in adults

 

 

 

Three in five UK adults have received a first dose of a coronavirus jab, the health secretary says.

Some 31,622,367 have received a first vaccine, with 5,496,716 people now fully vaccinated thanks to a second dose - 10.4% of the adult population.

Matt Hancock says it is "fantastic" news and has tweeted his thanks to "everyone involved in the vaccine rollout", saying "we're making great strides in our national

 

Analysis: All medicines can cause side effects - but what's the risk?

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Nick Triggle

Health Correspondent

All medicines, from vaccines to paracetamol, have the potential to cause severe side effects.

The seasonal flu jab has about a one-in-a-million chance of causing the nerve disorder Guillain-Barre syndrome.

The key question is whether the risks are worth the benefits.

Even if the vaccine was the cause, and this is still not proven, the numbers suggest about one death in every 2.5 million people vaccinated in the UK.

For everyone over the age of 75 infected there is one death per eight Covid infections.

For those in their 40s it is one death per 1,000.

On the face of it, the risk-benefit ratio is clearly in favour of vaccination if you assume you are going to be infected at some point.

But what is needed now is more information about who has been suffering from these rare blood clots. How old are they? Do they have any underlying health conditions that could explain what happened?

This will help narrow down the scale of any potential risks.

An update from the UK regulator - as well as the European one - is expected in the coming days.

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1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

In an already jittery, frightened & sceptical European public, these type of statements do untold damage.

 

Even if there was a link, the risks are so miniscule that people probably have a higher chance of dying on their way to get the jab than from the jab.

 

IMO there is a substained campaign to discredit the AZ/Oxford vaccine.

 

 

Without a doubt. Cheap AZ/Oxford vaccine versus expensive (relatively speaking)  alternatives. Wonder if other drug companies trying to exert pressure to use their ones as it means more cash for them if they become popular. 

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UK media sneakily referring to what was previously trumped as the "OXFORD VACCINE" as the "AstraZenica Vaccine" as soon as the blood clot side effects were proven.

 

:interehjrling:

 

The risk of clotting is tiny and the benefits of the vaccine by far outweigh the risk of clotting and you're at more risk from clotting from certain contraception methods and the link between contraception methods and the AZ vaccine is being investigated but it's still interesting to see the UK media suddenly trying to keep the Oxford name out of it.

They must think we button up the back.

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2 minutes ago, Cade said:

UK media sneakily referring to what was previously trumped as the "OXFORD VACCINE" as the "AstraZenica Vaccine" as soon as the blood clot side effects were proven.

 

:interehjrling:

 

The risk of clotting is tiny and the benefits of the vaccine by far outweigh the risk of clotting and you're at more risk from clotting from certain contraception methods and the link between contraception methods and the AZ vaccine is being investigated but it's still interesting to see the UK media suddenly trying to keep the Oxford name out of it.

They must think we button up the back.


Are they proven now? I thought the EMA official had jumped the gun and that statement was wound back. 

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It's insane.  Even if the link is proved and there is a causal factor,  the tiny percentage of risk is massively outweighed by the benefit of continued use.  To protect individuals from illness and also societal and economic benefits from being able to suppress cases and illness and reopen everything.

 

Continued use will save many,  many times more lives (non covid) than the deaths it will cause from side effects.  

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10 minutes ago, Victorian said:

It's insane.  Even if the link is proved and there is a causal factor,  the tiny percentage of risk is massively outweighed by the benefit of continued use.  To protect individuals from illness and also societal and economic benefits from being able to suppress cases and illness and reopen everything.

 

Continued use will save many,  many times more lives (non covid) than the deaths it will cause from side effects.  

 

Totally, there will most likely be a higher risk of death travelling on the way to the vaccination centre than from the vaccine itself.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Totally, there will most likely be a higher risk of death travelling on the way to the vaccination centre than from the vaccine itself.

 

 

Exactly.

You just need to read the literature you get with any medication warning you of side affects.

It would put you off taking the medication.

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14 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Totally, there will most likely be a higher risk of death travelling on the way to the vaccination centre than from the vaccine itself.

 

 

 

There's a higher risk staying in your house if you use your kitchen. 

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39 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Totally, there will most likely be a higher risk of death travelling on the way to the vaccination centre than from the vaccine itself.

 

 

 

There's probably a higher risk of death for many travelling to the vaccination centre than they have from Covid too in fairness.

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Hopefully we will end up with all the AZ vaccines if other countries don't want them. Guaranteed there will have been blood clots with the Pfizer jab,  anyway won't stop me getting my second AZ fix in the next few weeks onwards and upwards :toasting:

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1 hour ago, Victorian said:

It's insane.  Even if the link is proved and there is a causal factor,  the tiny percentage of risk is massively outweighed by the benefit of continued use.  To protect individuals from illness and also societal and economic benefits from being able to suppress cases and illness and reopen everything.

 

Continued use will save many,  many times more lives (non covid) than the deaths it will cause from side effects.  

 

Correct.

But fowk are daft so as soon as they learn of any *possible* risk they'll start refusing the vaccine.

 

I mean earlier on we had scores of people refusing the Pfizer one because they wanted "the British vaccine".

 

:vrface:

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3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

There's probably a higher risk of death for many travelling to the vaccination centre than they have from Covid too in fairness.

 

Maybe amongst the younger age groups, but they are not being routinely vaccinated at present, such as yourself for example.

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1 minute ago, Cade said:

 

Correct.

But fowk are daft so as soon as they learn of any *possible* risk they'll start refusing the vaccine.

 

I mean earlier on we had scores of people refusing the Pfizer one because they wanted "the British vaccine".

 

:vrface:

 

I think that many people nowadays have lost the ability to rationally risk assess something for themselves.

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9 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

Hopefully we will end up with all the AZ vaccines if other countries don't want them. Guaranteed there will have been blood clots with the Pfizer jab,  anyway won't stop me getting my second AZ fix in the next few weeks onwards and upwards :toasting:

 

There was an article posted on here (might have been me who posted it) from the BMA or the BMJ, where IIRC up to the 8 March in the UK, there had been something like 35 reported blood clots after the AZ/Oxford vaccine & 22 after the Pfizer vaccine, I don't think it was this rare clot they were on about, but anyway the proportion pro-rata of blood clots from either vaccine was pretty much the same.

 

I seen a report on the BBC an hour or so ago, anyway the reporter was saying that all doctors in Germany have received a letter telling them what to look out for in people who have had the AZ/Oxford vaccine, however the same advise hasn't been issued for the Pfizer vaccine, meaning that the more you look for something in a specific group of people, you'll often find it.

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7 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

There was an article posted on here (might have been me who posted it) from the BMA or the BMJ, where IIRC up to the 8 March in the UK, there had been something like 35 reported blood clots after the AZ/Oxford vaccine & 22 after the Pfizer vaccine, I don't think it was this rare clot they were on about, but anyway the proportion pro-rata of blood clots from either vaccine was pretty much the same.

 

I seen a report on the BBC an hour or so ago, anyway the reporter was saying that all doctors in Germany have received a letter telling them what to look out for in people who have had the AZ/Oxford vaccine, however the same advise hasn't been issued for the Pfizer vaccine, meaning that the more you look for something in a specific group of people, you'll often find it.


I read somewhere that the prevalence of this type of blood clot in those that had had the vaccine was less than you’d expect in the general population.
 

 

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27 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

I think that many people nowadays have lost the ability to rationally risk assess something for themselves.

 

Indeed. I for example learned a long while ago that most car accidents occur within 2 miles of your home and so I routinely park 2 miles away from my house and walk the rest of the way home in order to minimise my risk. It's just common sense.

 

;)

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38 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Maybe amongst the younger age groups, but they are not being routinely vaccinated at present, such as yourself for example.

 

Very true, the risk certainly varies dramatically across age and other demographics.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Cade said:

UK media sneakily referring to what was previously trumped as the "OXFORD VACCINE" as the "AstraZenica Vaccine" as soon as the blood clot side effects were proven.

 

What a load of fecking shite :rofl:

 

:conspiracy:

 

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Scottish numbers: 7 April 2021

Summary

  • 289 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+30; down from 542 a week ago]
  • 22,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.5% of these were positive [+7,825; -0.5%]
  • 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+5]
  • 21 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
  • 192 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-4]
  • 2,593,932 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 479,239 have received their second dose [+16,116; +15,459]
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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 7 April 2021

Summary

  • 289 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+30; down from 542 a week ago]
  • 22,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.5% of these were positive [+7,825; -0.5%]
  • 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+5]
  • 21 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
  • 192 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-4]
  • 2,593,932 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 479,239 have received their second dose [+16,116; +15,459]

cheers as ever Red numbers still dropping in hospital admissions it will just be trickle from now given the low numbers and hopefully we don't see a rise when things ease up. As long as deaths and ICU admissions remain low then we're good to go

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1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

There was an article posted on here (might have been me who posted it) from the BMA or the BMJ, where IIRC up to the 8 March in the UK, there had been something like 35 reported blood clots after the AZ/Oxford vaccine & 22 after the Pfizer vaccine, I don't think it was this rare clot they were on about, but anyway the proportion pro-rata of blood clots from either vaccine was pretty much the same.

 

I seen a report on the BBC an hour or so ago, anyway the reporter was saying that all doctors in Germany have received a letter telling them what to look out for in people who have had the AZ/Oxford vaccine, however the same advise hasn't been issued for the Pfizer vaccine, meaning that the more you look for something in a specific group of people, you'll often find it.

cheers JJ

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16 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 7 April 2021

Summary

  • 289 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+30; down from 542 a week ago]
  • 22,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.5% of these were positive [+7,825; -0.5%]
  • 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+5]
  • 21 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
  • 192 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-4]
  • 2,593,932 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 479,239 have received their second dose [+16,116; +15,459]

Good improvement in the case and death trends, which I thought could have been higher, given the first normal business day following the bank holiday weekend.

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Today's trend stats. Some good case rate decreases around the councils, including 4 councils who haven't had any cases in a week. The 7-day average positivity rate is now down to 2, while deaths has reduced to the same figure. Vaccination numbers still in decline.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr 1 Apr ... 1 Mar
Scotland   43 48 -5   50 52 54 57 59 ... 78
Clackmannanshire 4 3 173 202 -29   N/A N/A N/A N/A 233 ... 126
West Lothian 4 3 90 87 +3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 129 ... 128
Renfrewshire 4 3 75 85 -10   N/A N/A N/A N/A 103 ... 121
North Lanarkshire 4 3 74 83 -9   N/A N/A N/A N/A 117 ... 122
Glasgow City 4 3 72 75 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 81 ... 113
East Ayrshire 4 3 61 70 -9   N/A N/A N/A N/A 72 ... 88
Fife 4 3 51 50 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 42 ... 58
Stirling 4 3 51 64 -13   N/A N/A N/A N/A 58 ... 155
The Honest Toun & Aroon’ 4 3 46 42 +4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 37 ... 95
Falkirk 4 2 43 60 -17   N/A N/A N/A N/A 90 ... 162
South Lanarkshire 4 3 41 45 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 62 ... 96
Dundee City 4 3 40 51 -11   N/A N/A N/A N/A 64 ... 70
Angus 4 2 39 43 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 42 ... 46
East Renfrewshire 4 3 39 38 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 45 ... 75
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 56 ... 77
Perth & Kinross 4 3 34 37 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 36 ... 60
Moray 4 1 30 33 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 56 ... 38
Edinburgh City 4 3 28 32 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 50 ... 67
Midlothian 4 3 28 44 -16   N/A N/A N/A N/A 57 ... 106
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 28 30 -2   N/A N/A N/A N/A 66 ... 128
Aberdeen City 4 3 24 29 -5   N/A N/A N/A N/A 44 ... 29
North Ayrshire 4 3 24 35 -11   N/A N/A N/A N/A 71 ... 74
Aberdeenshire 4 3 23 28 -5   N/A N/A N/A N/A 28 ... 18
Highland 4/3 1 19 20 -1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 7 ... 30
South Ayrshire 4 3 14 17 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 19 ... 49
Inverclyde 4 2 13 15 -2   N/A N/A N/A N/A 21 ... 55
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 8 7 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 7 ... 17
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 11 ... 15
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 1 -1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 5 ... 32
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 0 ... 34
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 0 ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 4 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 9 ... 0
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr 1 Apr ... 1 Mar
Tests     19033 19898 -865   20355 20509 21004 21570 21722 ... 18830
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.1 -0.1   2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 2.4 ... 3.8
Deaths     2 3 -1   4 4 4 5 5 ... 26
All Vaccinations     36478 38108 -1630   40795 43838 45329 46806 49063 ... 29659
1st Dose     18695 20203 -1508   22208 24018 25297 27559 29659 ... 23727
2nd Dose     17783 17905 -122   18587 19820 20032 19247 19404 ... 5932
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     171 175 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 194 ... 753
ICU     21 21 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 21 ... 71
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16 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats. Some good case rate decreases around the councils, including 4 councils who haven't had any cases in a week. The 7-day average positivity rate is now down to 2, while deaths has reduced to the same figure. Vaccination numbers still in decline.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr 1 Apr ... 1 Mar
Scotland   43 48 -5   50 52 54 57 59 ... 78
Clackmannanshire 4 3 173 202 -29   N/A N/A N/A N/A 233 ... 126
West Lothian 4 3 90 87 +3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 129 ... 128
Renfrewshire 4 3 75 85 -10   N/A N/A N/A N/A 103 ... 121
North Lanarkshire 4 3 74 83 -9   N/A N/A N/A N/A 117 ... 122
Glasgow City 4 3 72 75 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 81 ... 113
East Ayrshire 4 3 61 70 -9   N/A N/A N/A N/A 72 ... 88
Fife 4 3 51 50 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 42 ... 58
Stirling 4 3 51 64 -13   N/A N/A N/A N/A 58 ... 155
The Honest Toun & Aroon’ 4 3 46 42 +4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 37 ... 95
Falkirk 4 2 43 60 -17   N/A N/A N/A N/A 90 ... 162
South Lanarkshire 4 3 41 45 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 62 ... 96
Dundee City 4 3 40 51 -11   N/A N/A N/A N/A 64 ... 70
Angus 4 2 39 43 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 42 ... 46
East Renfrewshire 4 3 39 38 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 45 ... 75
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 56 ... 77
Perth & Kinross 4 3 34 37 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 36 ... 60
Moray 4 1 30 33 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 56 ... 38
Edinburgh City 4 3 28 32 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 50 ... 67
Midlothian 4 3 28 44 -16   N/A N/A N/A N/A 57 ... 106
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 28 30 -2   N/A N/A N/A N/A 66 ... 128
Aberdeen City 4 3 24 29 -5   N/A N/A N/A N/A 44 ... 29
North Ayrshire 4 3 24 35 -11   N/A N/A N/A N/A 71 ... 74
Aberdeenshire 4 3 23 28 -5   N/A N/A N/A N/A 28 ... 18
Highland 4/3 1 19 20 -1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 7 ... 30
South Ayrshire 4 3 14 17 -3   N/A N/A N/A N/A 19 ... 49
Inverclyde 4 2 13 15 -2   N/A N/A N/A N/A 21 ... 55
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 8 7 +1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 7 ... 17
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 11 ... 15
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 1 -1   N/A N/A N/A N/A 5 ... 32
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 0 ... 34
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 0 ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 4 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 9 ... 0
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr 1 Apr ... 1 Mar
Tests     19033 19898 -865   20355 20509 21004 21570 21722 ... 18830
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.1 -0.1   2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 2.4 ... 3.8
Deaths     2 3 -1   4 4 4 5 5 ... 26
All Vaccinations     36478 38108 -1630   40795 43838 45329 46806 49063 ... 29659
1st Dose     18695 20203 -1508   22208 24018 25297 27559 29659 ... 23727
2nd Dose     17783 17905 -122   18587 19820 20032 19247 19404 ... 5932
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     171 175 -4   N/A N/A N/A N/A 194 ... 753
ICU     21 21 0   N/A N/A N/A N/A 21 ... 71

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Red is there any particular reason for the decline in vaccinations?

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13 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

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There's isn't a lorra lorra supplies supplies :whistling:

 

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1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

There's isn't a lorra lorra supplies supplies :whistling:

 

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Well they better get their finger out as I’m soon to get my second vaccination.

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2 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

There's isn't a lorra lorra supplies supplies :whistling:

 

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Could there also be a factor of supplies being held in reserve so that second jabs can be fulfilled on the promised dates?

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12 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Could there also be a factor of supplies being held in reserve so that second jabs can be fulfilled on the promised dates?

I'm sure that NS alluded to a switch of emphasis from 1st to 2nd doses during April at briefings a couple of weeks ago. That will require specific stocks to be maintained.

 

We saw peak 1st doses of over 60k a day during the 2nd week of February. That will have to be replicated in 2nd doses inside 12 weeks i.e. by the week ending 9 May.

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19 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Could there also be a factor of supplies being held in reserve so that second jabs can be fulfilled on the promised dates?

I hope that is the case.

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4 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I hope that is the case.


It will be, huge reserve stock plus slowing down 1st doses will make sure of it. They won’t risk people missing out on 2 dose to basically vaccinate those in very low risk groups. 

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Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

I hope that is the case.

 

I'm fairly sure that it will be, TRM. There are a whole host of second jabs going to be needed to be administered within the 10 week limit over the next 2-3 months. Personally, if I were in charge of stocks then I would have been be salting vials away in order to provide myself with good breathing space in case of future supply issues in order to ensure that there are sufficient vaccines (and of the proper manufacturer) available to provide those second jabs. That could well be what we're seeing.

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22 minutes ago, Dazo said:


It will be, huge reserve stock plus slowing down 1st doses will make sure of it. They won’t risk people missing out on 2 dose to basically vaccinate those in very low risk groups. 

 

18 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm fairly sure that it will be, TRM. There are a whole host of second jabs going to be needed to be administered within the 10 week limit over the next 2-3 months. Personally, if I were in charge of stocks then I would have been be salting vials away in order to provide myself with good breathing space in case of future supply issues in order to ensure that there are sufficient vaccines (and of the proper manufacturer) available to provide those second jabs. That could well be what we're seeing.

Thanks to you both for the replies.

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From my own tracking of vaccinations, the table below might help understanding of the timing and dosages required to meet the targets.

 

Column 1 & 2 are the cumulative number of 1st doses administered by each date (weekly intervals).

Column 3 is the total of 1st doses administered in the previous week ending on the date in column 1.

Column 4 is the 12 week target for the corresponding dates in column 1

Column 5 is the date when completing cumulative 2nd doses comparable to the 1st dose number, OR the number of 2nd doses that still need to be be administered to match the 1st dose numbers. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

What a load of fecking shite :rofl:

 

:conspiracy:

 

 

Of course it's a load of shite, especially when the European Medicines Agency didn't use the word 'Oxford' either, the EMA called it the 'AstraZeneca' vaccine.

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The EMA to add these blood clots as a possible very rare side effect of the AZ/Oxford vaccine.

 

What effect this will have on public confidence, who knows.

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