Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Did you aye? If you object to some hard up family getting £100 before Christmas and are trying to make angles that it’s cos there’s an election then I’m deadly serious. Horrendous stuff. This dough should have been handed oot month's ago, why now? Why does she not just cut taxes in Scotland and put benefits up, naw here's a wee Christmas present to buy some messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I always take the use of the laughing emoji as a sign that argument is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Taffin said: I reckon people would prefer to have their jobs back and go to work than be given £100. Might just be me though. Its also a bit of a kick in the teeth to other workers. If anything we have learned from lockdowns and the pandemic is the definition of an " essential worker" has completely changed...supermarket workers, bus drivers. taxi drivers etc could all be viewed as " essential . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: I always take the use of the laughing emoji as a sign that argument is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ma Roon said: This dough should have been handed oot month's ago, why now? Why does she not just cut taxes in Scotland and put benefits up, naw here's a wee Christmas present to buy some messages £100 should’ve been handed oot months ago? Are you reading back to yourself that you’re making a big deal out some hard up folk getting £100? To buy some messages. This is winding you up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, jack D and coke said: £100 should’ve been handed oot months ago? Are you reading back to yourself that you’re making a big deal out some hard up folk getting £100? To buy some messages. This is winding you up? Winding you up more like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ma Roon said: Winding you up more like So am the one making a stink about it aye? Am I aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: You do realise that the 'bail out money' has either been repaid or will be repaid in future. Think the Nat West group, formerly RBS, still has some to repay, but rest has been recovered. I don't believe nurses or NHS staff need rewarded with bonus for doing the job they are paid to do? Not all NHS staff worked on Covid wards, and those that were trained to do so worked as required. If they don't like conditions they have, do what everyone else has to do and apply for jobs elsewhere. They knew wages when they entered profession after all. I'll have to disagree on the NHS staff, I doubt most of them do it for the money. Do you get bonus at your work? Or do you refuse it as you are just doing your job? I don't see a problem rewarding people who were sent to work with the public before we really knew what this was and potentially putting themselves and their families at risk. In regards the bail out being paid back (I'll admit I wasn't aware it had) does that include interest? Or is it just what was spent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Scottish government have been storing cash away for last few years by not spending all of allowances they receive. They also could improve education and health standards throughout country but have chosen not to as it suits their political ambition. All of the political grandstanding over last 9 months has built up to NS speech today. Always been the plan. Allowances 😁😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The seethe on this thread. Fake seethe though. People selectively not caring about those in poverty in order to create a bogus political grievance. Pathological and irrational hatred, red in tooth and claw. Rancid and comedy gold all at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Victorian said: Fake seethe though. People selectively not caring about those in poverty in order to create a bogus political grievance. Pathological and irrational hatred, red in tooth and claw. Rancid and comedy gold all at once. Not caring about poverty. You have **** all idea what posters here care about. You have no idea if people contribute to charities or do charitable work. If there is one rancid thing on here, it's your self pious attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Only 36 positive cases announced today for City of Edinburgh i know there was a bit of a technical issue but surely Tier two beckons shortly. fed up standing outside the Harbour Bar and nearest toilet is Asda 300 yards away lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: I always take the use of the laughing emoji as a sign that argument is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Aye Nicola seems to be following the Eva Peron school of politics with her financial handouts to the descamisados ( shirtless poor ones ) maybe she will Do a wee song outside at Bute house if it has a balcony like the Casa Rosada !!! Nothing would surprise me after this looney year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Is that hundred quid going to the folk who’ve never worked a day in their lives and spend all their child benefit on fags and booze (source: missus deals with people like them every day since they **** over their kids lives as much as their own) so are in ‘poverty’ or is it going to the hard-working hospitality and retail workers whose businesses, careers and lives have been chucked in the bin through no fault of their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, jonesy said: Sure as hell won't be Madonna in her prime that plays her in the film adaptation. In fact Maradona, his recent death notwishstanding, is a better lookalike. However, we all know who the frontrunner is: Is this the best Private Eye lookalike EVER? | Metro News 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 51 minutes ago, Zico said: Is that hundred quid going to the folk who’ve never worked a day in their lives and spend all their child benefit on fags and booze (source: missus deals with people like them every day since they **** over their kids lives as much as their own) so are in ‘poverty’ or is it going to the hard-working hospitality and retail workers whose businesses, careers and lives have been chucked in the bin through no fault of their own? What hundred quid? Have I missed a giveaway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zico said: Is that hundred quid going to the folk who’ve never worked a day in their lives and spend all their child benefit on fags and booze (source: missus deals with people like them every day since they **** over their kids lives as much as their own) so are in ‘poverty’ or is it going to the hard-working hospitality and retail workers whose businesses, careers and lives have been chucked in the bin through no fault of their own? Don't remember these so called people getting government grants and tax break to close their doors. It must be shite not working on minimum wage or casual for these so called shat on hospitality and private homes owners(multi millionaires), so aye, it could well be a hunner quid for them as well. 👍 'Wife deals with these people ' Sounds like the other way round and hopefully your Mrs doesn't go into her day with the attitude of detestment that you have for people who have been fecked in life from the off. Edited December 1, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 No vaccine no entry to pubs, restaurants,bingo etc... Aye right, you can't even enforce masks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Zico said: Is that hundred quid going to the folk who’ve never worked a day in their lives and spend all their child benefit on fags and booze (source: missus deals with people like them every day since they **** over their kids lives as much as their own) so are in ‘poverty’ or is it going to the hard-working hospitality and retail workers whose businesses, careers and lives have been chucked in the bin through no fault of their own? Exactly, her "core voters" in other words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: It's the 9.5 billion they got from Rishi Sunak. Why wait until their party conference to announce the 'gifts' though Political parasites Got from Sunak. How kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 @Governor Tarkin Enjoy your work, bud. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, jonesy said: Not sure what it is about this thread that's brought out the worst in Old Vic. Seems a decent enough poster going by other threads, but I agree about your final sentence - pious, almost puritanical devotion to being at the mercy of the government's whims. I guess some people just need to be told what to do and have an envy of those who dare think for themselves. Brought out the worst in me? **** me that's priceless. Some of you people need to look in a mirror. I'll just leave it be now. All the best to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 8 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: No vaccine no entry to pubs, restaurants,bingo etc... Aye right, you can't even enforce masks. I suggested this would happen a while ago and was told I was completely mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/db259b2f-64bc-4204-ab52-3f434bfa771b Interesting article about mandatory vaccination Edit: it is behind a paywall Edited December 1, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Lewis Hamilton pops for the COVID. So much for the famous F1 bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Can you paste the article of give the cliff notes version? I can't get back into it now either 😅 I think you can read an article once maybe on it. Long story short: Most sceptical of this vaccination aren't true anti-vaxxers but perceive it to be rushed and/or they are actually exposing themselves to more risk than the virus presents to them so don't really want to take it. Given the number of people not at great risk outweighs those who are the impact of mandatory vaccination could actually see lesser uptake as people rebel against being told to take something they don't need. In turn companies thinking their making a smart commercial move enforcing it may actually be doing the opposite. There was another point I found interesting but it now escapes me. I'll post it if I can remember later 👍 Edit: I remembered. Airlines have no liability to protect people from a known risk such as Covid as long as they take sensible precautions. They're only liable for extreme oversight and negligence etc. However, mandating that people take a vaccine may make them liable should complications arise from that vaccine. Edited December 1, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: I can't get back into it now either 😅 I think you can read an article once maybe on it. Long story short: Most sceptical of this vaccination aren't true anti-vaxxers but perceive it to be rushed and/or they are actually exposing themselves to more risk than the virus presents to them so don't really want to take it. Given the number of people not at great risk outweighs those who are the impact of mandatory vaccination could actually see lesser uptake as people rebel against being told to take something they don't need. In turn companies thinking their making a smart commercial move enforcing it may actually be doing the opposite. There was another point I found interesting but it now escapes me. I'll post it if I can remember later 👍 Well healthy fit people should not be forced to take it . Actually no one should be . It should be voluntary then once all those who want it have had it we open up fully and bobs your uncle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: Well healthy fit people should not be forced to take it . Actually no one should be . It should be voluntary then once all those who want it have had it we open up fully and bobs your uncle ! I've got my own thoughts on it but I'm not willing to share them here but the article isn't driving at for or against it being mandatory. It's more focused on what impact businesses making it mandatory may actually have. They believe it may actually be bad for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: I've got my own thoughts on it but I'm not willing to share them here but the article isn't driving at for or against it being mandatory. It's more focused on what impact businesses making it mandatory may actually have. They believe it may actually be bad for business. Hi Taffin I’m really just very much against pumping into into my body I’m not sure about , as most people should be with this very new vaccine . That’s the main issue I have plus the civil liberties issues . Even with normal day to day meds there are copious amounts of side effects to meds which are concerning . Completely agree that it would be bad for business as it’s mostly younger people who keeps pubs afloat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Well healthy fit people should not be forced to take it . Actually no one should be . It should be voluntary then once all those who want it have had it we open up fully and bobs your uncle ! Spot on. I’ll be taking it but no one should be forced to. Dangerous road to go down when we start singling people out if they have or haven’t taken a vaccine. The people screaming from the rooftops that we should be doing so are more worrying in my opinion than those who say they don’t want to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, King prawn said: Spot on. I’ll be taking it but no one should be forced to. Dangerous road to go down when we start singling people out if they have or haven’t taken a vaccine. The people screaming from the rooftops that we should be doing so are more worrying in my opinion than those who say they don’t want to take it. Agree with you. At the moment, I'll be taking it and am hoping for side effects to include hair regrowth ( on head), weight loss (nothing drastic, just body fat reduction) and would be good if it repaired knee ligament damage. By the time I am eligible for vaccine, hoping any other side effects are known. I will then make final decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, King prawn said: Spot on. I’ll be taking it but no one should be forced to. Dangerous road to go down when we start singling people out if they have or haven’t taken a vaccine. The people screaming from the rooftops that we should be doing so are more worrying in my opinion than those who say they don’t want to take it. 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Well healthy fit people should not be forced to take it . Actually no one should be . It should be voluntary then once all those who want it have had it we open up fully and bobs your uncle ! It may be the case if you want to go to certain countries you have to have had the vaccine in a similar way to that of Yellow Fever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, CavySlaveJambo said: It may be the case if you want to go to certain countries you have to have had the vaccine in a similar way to that of Yellow Fever. I had the yellow fever vaccine in February and seemed like I got every side effect on the list. It was the worst I’ve felt in years and at one point I was so disoriented that I ended up a bit lost after getting off a metro without realising where I was. Doesn’t add anything to this topic but I hated the bloody thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said: It may be the case if you want to go to certain countries you have to have had the vaccine in a similar way to that of Yellow Fever. It may well be. However for it to have any purpose, that country would need to already be on top of it via their own vaccination programme and if they were then unvaccinated people visiting wouldn't pose much risk surely? What if one vaccination proves to prevent onward transmission but another one doesn't? Then it's a vaccine lottery on who gets to travel. If none of them end up preventing it then it's not much benefit to making mandatory from a travel perspective. Aside, if there is no vaccination certificate as is being claimed, then: A. how do people prove they've had it? B. will countries ban everyone from Britain from visiting, long term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, **** the SPFL said: Only 36 positive cases announced today for City of Edinburgh i know there was a bit of a technical issue but surely Tier two beckons shortly. fed up standing outside the Harbour Bar and nearest toilet is Asda 300 yards away lol Went by there on Saturday was certainly busy ... the pub not Asda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, the general said: Went by there on Saturday was certainly busy ... the pub not Asda you getting out anywhere Kenny for a wee sneaky drink legal of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire expected to move to Level 3 this week. What that means for Moray (also NHS Grampian) is anyones guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said: you getting out anywhere Kenny for a wee sneaky drink legal of course Of course pal ... Grosvenor Fox and Faun . Black Cat . Hector's etc Getting a bit king billy now though especially at my age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Can’t believe pubs are still closed ffs. Remember folk saying it was only for three weeks. Honestly embarrassing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, the general said: Of course pal ... Grosvenor Fox and Faun . Black Cat . Hector's etc Getting a bit king billy now though especially at my age posh fecker going to Hector's hope you sit outside lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, the general said: Of course pal ... Grosvenor Fox and Faun . Black Cat . Hector's etc Getting a bit king billy now though especially at my age They all doing takeaway beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Well healthy fit people should not be forced to take it . Actually no one should be . It should be voluntary then once all those who want it have had it we open up fully and bobs your uncle ! TBF nobody is forcing folk to take the vaccine. Just basically making it difficult to function properly if the don't which is even worse TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, JWL said: They all doing takeaway beer? Yes indeed pal .. Shakespeare too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said: posh fecker going to Hector's hope you sit outside lol St Vincent is decent as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, JWL said: They all doing takeaway beer? https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/best-in-edinburgh/new-edinburgh-map-shows-bars-19235342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Can’t believe pubs are still closed ffs. Remember folk saying it was only for three weeks. Honestly embarrassing now. 16 days she said, "don't worry just a short, sharp circuit break". The problem is that politicians are frightened of their own shadows and are only interested in covering their own erses ahead of the public inquury. No justification for the lock downs we are seeing now and when requested, of course, the evidence simply doesn't exist. Keep hiding behind the "NHS will be overwhelmed " mantra. Meanwhile, Arcadia have collapsed and, indirectly, Debenhams will also collapse, shedding 12k jobs. Hard to imagine a Thatcher or a Blair presiding over the short of s**t show that Johnson and Sturgeon have created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Can’t believe pubs are still closed ffs. Remember folk saying it was only for three weeks. Honestly embarrassing now. It’ll soon be 3 bloody months and will probably be longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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