Shanks Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 One of my friends works for the nhs and is off sick with suspected coronavirus and can't get a test! Its shocking he can get a test on the NHS before one of the workers on the front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulpener Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Apologies if discussed since the why the helicopter up and about bit it has been flying over craigmillar, niddrie, southside just now. Today it was an air ambulance dropping off/collecting at The RIE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, graygo said: A vaccine and a treatment are 2 completely different things mate. Exactly, treatment isn't too far away for the virus, but a vaccine feels like a million miles away right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Gulpener said: Today it was an air ambulance dropping off/collecting at The RIE. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, The Old Tolbooth said: Exactly, treatment isn't too far away for the virus, but a vaccine feels like a million miles away right now. Glad someone got it. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Christ John it was a gag. Anyone who touches notably their eyes and nose with their hands which have been in contact with a contaminated area are at risk of catching it. Edit - however what it does show as you say that it has no prejudices. I'm no royalists but hope he doesn't get it too seriously, recovers and minimises the chances of others catching it. Royal or not he is still a human being. Hey, and by him catching it may even make a few more folk who are trying to convince themselves that they are a key worker when they are far from it, to stay at home. Sorry for not picking up on your humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, DETTY29 said: Apologies if discussed since the why the helicopter up and about bit it has been flying over craigmillar, niddrie, southside just now. Ive been for a wander and its quiet but there are certainly a small handful of groups of 3 or 4 mingling and while queuing outside chemist far too many not safe distancing albeit there could be carers, service users. Could be a number of reasons why a helicopter in the air but checking out for groups of folk congregating on larger numbers would be a possibility to then instruct police cars where to go. One was hovering for about 20 minutes near Levenhall Roundabout Musselburgh about 9pm last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Scrap that. Corbyn gets up, and his first thought is to have a dig. Ah, well. You mean asking why non essential construction workers are still working, risking killing more people? Raising questions about the real problems people are having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 https://covid.joinzoe.com/ pass it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, JFK-1 said: That's exactly what crossed my mind last week. There is no exit strategy, it's just let's wait and see what happens. Presumably what will happen is that infection rates will fall if we implement a near total lock down. But that's not a way out if this mess. The virus will still be out there somewhere. anyone who doesn’t know what the exit strategy is clearly knows nothing about the stage management of new pandemics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barack said: Perfectly entitled to ask that question. No need to phrase it in the manner in which he did. Even Ian Blackford and other SNP members, who can't stand Boris, managed to put their points across in a respectful, yet forceful manner. Not sure what you are saying. You think everything is perfect? You think people should just praise Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Taffin said: What is the difference? My understanding was that Sars-cov 2 was the virus that leads/can lead to covid19 the disease? I've lost track a bit of the terminology. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. The current virus is called SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and the disease it causes is COVID-19 (Coronavirus disease, identified in 2019). SARS is a similar disease, caused by a similar virus (SARS-CoV). MERS (Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome) is another similar disease, caused by another similar virus (MERS-CoV). If all the letters are capitals, it's a disease. If they're not, it's a virus. Edited March 25, 2020 by Gorgiewave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: https://covid.joinzoe.com/ pass it on Surely thats the opposite of what we should be doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Poor harrassed staff in Aldi a wee while ago. Continually trying to direct people to space out. Mind you the floor markings and signage are woeful. Edited March 25, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Poor harrassed staff in Aldi a wee while ago. Continually trying to direct pdople to space out. Mind you the floor markings and signage are woeful. To be fair the signage and markings will have had to be rushed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Surely thats the opposite of what we should be doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, vegas-voss said: To be fair the signage and markings will have had to be rushed out. Yeah initially. It would help the staff to improve it now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Voted Labour all my life. Until Corbyn. Guess where my vote went instead. Greens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Barack said: No, that's not what I'm saying, Mikey. Try not to be so hyperbolic. Corbyn does have an edge to his voice. The others have calmer voices. Guess that's what you meant. Fair play. Edited March 25, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: Exactly, treatment isn't too far away for the virus, but a vaccine feels like a million miles away right now. At this stage treatment would be a huge breakthrough. We could return to more of a normal way of life. The vaccine can come when it’s ready, we just need to start preventing so many deaths for the interim period between now and a vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Tabloids are saying a 21 year old with no health issues has died from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Testing still a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Tabloids are saying a 21 year old with no health issues has died from it. Wake up call for anybody who thinks this disease only kills old people. https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/woman-21-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-coronavirus-12454333/ Being reported on Sky News as well. Edited March 25, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, Longshanks said: One of my friends works for the nhs and is off sick with suspected coronavirus and can't get a test! Its shocking he can get a test on the NHS before one of the workers on the front line. The fake outrage virus is still around it seems In Scotland..... Household members of key health and social care workers' families are to be given priority testing for Covid-19 if they show symptoms. It means that if household members test negative, the key worker can return to work immediately. Currently, health and social care staff have to self-isolate for 14 days even if they are not showing any symptoms. Health Secretary Jeane Freeman said the move would have "the greatest impact in reducing working days lost". She added: "It is essential that frontline health and social care staff can remain at work. "To help to save lives, we must continue to prioritise testing in hospitals. "All remaining capacity must be used to ensure that critical staff can return to work as soon as possible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, CJGJ said: The fake outrage virus is still around it seems In Scotland..... Household members of key health and social care workers' families are to be given priority testing for Covid-19 if they show symptoms. It means that if household members test negative, the key worker can return to work immediately. Currently, health and social care staff have to self-isolate for 14 days even if they are not showing any symptoms. Health Secretary Jeane Freeman said the move would have "the greatest impact in reducing working days lost". She added: "It is essential that frontline health and social care staff can remain at work. "To help to save lives, we must continue to prioritise testing in hospitals. "All remaining capacity must be used to ensure that critical staff can return to work as soon as possible." Are they even priority testing the healthcare workers yet though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Another 6 deaths since yesterday in Scotland bringing our total to 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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graygo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said: Coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. The current virus is called SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and the disease it causes is COVID-19 (Coronavirus disease, identified in 2019). SARS is a similar disease, caused by a similar virus (SARS-CoV). MERS (Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome) is another similar disease, caused by another similar virus (MERS-CoV). If all the letters are capitals, it's a disease. If they're not, it's a virus. Interesting, especially the capital letters park, thank you for posting that. 👍 I'd heard a bit about it in a podcast but wasn't sure how accurate it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: anyone who doesn’t know what the exit strategy is clearly knows nothing about the stage management of new pandemics I’ll be one of those then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, The Old Tolbooth said: Exactly, treatment isn't too far away for the virus, but a vaccine feels like a million miles away right now. has there been some good news on a treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. If that's your own creativity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Are they even priority testing the healthcare workers yet though? As partner to one I can confirm no they aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: has there been some good news on a treatment There's been several claims that progress is being made. You would need to take them at face value to accept that progress is being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Roller said: Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19. Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14. 😂😂 Brilliant,oh and stolen 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Taffin said: Interesting, especially the capital letters park, thank you for posting that. 👍 I'd heard a bit about it in a podcast but wasn't sure how accurate it was. That's just my own observation and only applicable to these viruses/diseases. Not true of HIV/AIDS, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, CJGJ said: The fake outrage virus is still around it seems In Scotland..... Household members of key health and social care workers' families are to be given priority testing for Covid-19 if they show symptoms. It means that if household members test negative, the key worker can return to work immediately. Currently, health and social care staff have to self-isolate for 14 days even if they are not showing any symptoms. Health Secretary Jeane Freeman said the move would have "the greatest impact in reducing working days lost". She added: "It is essential that frontline health and social care staff can remain at work. "To help to save lives, we must continue to prioritise testing in hospitals. "All remaining capacity must be used to ensure that critical staff can return to work as soon as possible." Maybe better at testing NHS staff in Scotland. Still behind on protective equipment https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-edinburgh-bus-drivers-nhs-staff-and-police-left-without-masks-gloves-and-hand-sanitiser-2516940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy T said: At this stage treatment would be a huge breakthrough. We could return to more of a normal way of life. The vaccine can come when it’s ready, we just need to start preventing so many deaths for the interim period between now and a vaccine. I posted a link yesterday to scientists in Winnipeg who claim they have treatment for this, and will be ready to start mass production early summer time, which still feels like a long way away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taffin Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said: That's just my own observation and only applicable to these viruses/diseases. Not true of HIV/AIDS, etc. Ah okay, thanks for the clarification 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, kila said: Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Professor Karol Sikora @ProfKarolSikora 18m Extremely positive news. The Gov has ordered 3.5 million antibody tests- it will show the footprint in the sand of the virus. Recent studies have shown that far more of us may have been infected than thought - this could prove that. Hopefully available to the public next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 1/2 the UK may have it/have it already. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-half-uk-population-oxford-university-study-finds-a4396721.html Edited March 25, 2020 by Walter Bishop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 The antibody test will need multiple units for many people. If you test before you've had it... negative. You show symptoms and immediately test... negative. You wait 3 days or so and test again... maybe positive. They'll need more than 3.5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: 1/2 the UK may have it/have it already. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-half-uk-population-oxford-university-study-finds-a4396721.html Part of me thinks that this would be a good thing if it helps with immunity. Edit. Should have read the article as that's what it says Edited March 25, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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