Ked Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Isn't really a colour in physics it's just invented by our brains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 Not particularly interesting in itself . But for the fact of our amazing brains. Purple a colour invented by us to interpret something that isn't there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 There's no purple snooker ball. Says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 22 minutes ago, Ked said: Isn't really a colour in physics it's just invented by our brains? What mauved you to post this? (Sorry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, Morgan said: Deep. Not really mate at first. But the reality of my brain and I've not got a fekin clue how it does it. I know it's simple but that alone . I can't explain it properly but it's as mind blowing as the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Thistle be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 15 minutes ago, Morgan said: Deep. Chapeau, Morgan, chapeau. A purple wan, anaw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 Just now, Der Kaiser said: What mauved you to post this? (Sorry) 😃 Just gave a bit colour to a slow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 U been on the whacky baccy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Hibs have had a few purple strips haven't they? Just goes to show they don't really exist 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 So the best colour isn't really a colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 40 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: U been on the whacky baccy ? Mostly am Although use edibles more and more. Try them Judy think they'd do you some good mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 Just now, Day@theraces said: So the best colour isn't really a colour. No.I mean yes. It's your brain explaining the lack of green . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Ked said: Mostly am Although use edibles more and more. Try them Judy think they'd do you some good mate. Stop smoking it a few years ago due to health scare . I used to bake it in cakes 🍰 😝 had some right laughs on it actually 😎and surreal conversations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Stop smoking it a few years ago due to health scare . I used to bake it in cakes 🍰 😝 had some right laughs on it actually 😎and surreal conversations It's good for you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, Ked said: No.I mean yes. It's your brain explaining the lack of green . So it's the brains way of ignoring the worst colour. I like my brain now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 4 minutes ago, Ked said: It's good for you mate. Yes I do believe it’s good for you as it helps you think outside the box . Esp if you are with the right company . However smoking it with tobacco is not good . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ked said: Not really mate at first. But the reality of my brain and I've not got a fekin clue how it does it. I know it's simple but that alone . I can't explain it properly but it's as mind blowing as the universe. I'm thinking there's a woosh moment for you here Ked. Edited May 9 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 So, my grip isn’t the difference between pink and purple afterall 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Purple only exists in our brains? – Crafting A Rainbow Hmmmm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Ked said: Not really mate at first. But the reality of my brain and I've not got a fekin clue how it does it. I know it's simple but that alone . I can't explain it properly but it's as mind blowing as the universe. Put the word deep before Purple, you will see Morgan wasn't being to deep afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Surely the fact that all colours exist on a spectrum and that one colour is just the blending of two neighbouring colours means that all colours are the same - either real of products of our imagination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 hours ago, Ked said: Isn't really a colour in physics it's just invented by our brains? Always wanted a purple car, love the colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Aren't all colours we see just in our brains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Aren't all colours we see just in our brains? No. Some colours actually exist. Purple doesn't. Here have you seen the experiment with photons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I'm thinking there's a woosh moment for you here Ked. 2 hours ago, John Findlay said: Put the word deep before Purple, you will see Morgan wasn't being to deep afterall. Aw aye 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 5 minutes ago, Ked said: No. Some colours actually exist. Purple doesn't. Here have you seen the experiment with photons? Exist to/for who? Doesn't our brain just present certain absences and presence of light to us as things we've called colours? Do all things in the universe see the same colours? I haven't seen the experiment, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Stop smoking it a few years ago due to health scare . I used to bake it in cakes 🍰 😝 had some right laughs on it actually 😎and surreal conversations 11 hours ago, Ked said: Mostly am Although use edibles more and more. Try them Judy think they'd do you some good mate. Although I've stopped the baccie, I still smoke it but through a water bong. I still miss sharing a joint with mates though. If the edibles were readily available up here though I would switch to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, I P Knightley said: Surely the fact that all colours exist on a spectrum and that one colour is just the blending of two neighbouring colours means that all colours are the same - either real of products of our imagination? Agreed. There are no special colours, except maroon. However, all colours don't exist on the spectrum. Purple doesn't, but neither do a whole host of other colours that are a blend of spectrum colours, greyscale colours, or mixes thereof. If someone is going to argue that purple is special in some way, then so are pink, black, brown, white and grey for example. Personally, it doesn't shock me that the brain creates different colours to distinguish mixes - the brain creates all sorts of shit to help us navigate and comprehend our sensory inputs. It's bloody good at it too. "Colour" is merely our brain's interpretation of part of the EM spectrum, and it could easily be argued that colours as such don't exist at all outside our brain, they're purely an internal construct, taking into account EM radiation, light levels, experience and contextual information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Aren't all colours we see just in our brains? I would argue that yes, they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I'm colour blind. I can't see purple. Looks blue to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 It makes you wonder if we all see colours the same and I am not just thinking of those who are colour blind. I was in an electrical shop recently and looking at an animation on all the tv screens at the same time they were all slightly different, some were towards the blue spectrum and others had more a aquamarine look in the background especially. Maybe that is the same with human eyes but I hope Maroon still looks as good to everyone as it does to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 48 minutes ago, Taffin said: Exist to/for who? Doesn't our brain just present certain absences and presence of light to us as things we've called colours? Do all things in the universe see the same colours? I haven't seen the experiment, no. 36 minutes ago, redjambo said: Agreed. There are no special colours, except maroon. However, all colours don't exist on the spectrum. Purple doesn't, but neither do a whole host of other colours that are a blend of spectrum colours, greyscale colours, or mixes thereof. If someone is going to argue that purple is special in some way, then so are pink, black, brown, white and grey for example. Personally, it doesn't shock me that the brain creates different colours to distinguish mixes - the brain creates all sorts of shit to help us navigate and comprehend our sensory inputs. It's bloody good at it too. "Colour" is merely our brain's interpretation of part of the EM spectrum, and it could easily be argued that colours as such don't exist at all outside our brain, they're purely an internal construct, taking into account EM radiation, light levels, experience and contextual information. What Color Is Everything When Nobody Is Looking? https://medium.com/predict/what-color-is-everything-when-nobody-is-looking-aefaee67dcf2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 49 minutes ago, Taffin said: Exist to/for who? Doesn't our brain just present certain absences and presence of light to us as things we've called colours? Do all things in the universe see the same colours? I haven't seen the experiment, no. The photon experiment is wild. They behave differently when observed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 13 hours ago, Ked said: Not particularly interesting in itself . But for the fact of our amazing brains. Purple a colour invented by us to interpret something that isn't there.. I’m sure there’s a hibs joke somewhere in there to be found 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 13 minutes ago, Taffin said: Do all things in the universe see the same colours? Nope, due to our differing "visual" input organs. Dogs, for example, with their differing cones and rods, can see fewer colours than humans can. Some animals can perceive radiation outwith the human visual spectrum. It would be quite a shock for us if we were to transfer into a dog's body and see the world as they see it. With all the animal species out there with different brain and "eye" formations, I would imagine it is unlikely that we all interpret colours the same, e.g. that one species' "blue" is the same as another's. We have no idea even if your "blue" is the same as mine, and I might be very surprised to see the world as you see it (your "blue" might be my "red" for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 10 minutes ago, Ked said: The photon experiment is wild. They behave differently when observed. It's quite a remarkable experiment, and works with both light and matter. Much of quantum mechanics is counter-intuitive but highly fascinating, especially when you realise that our world is built on probabilities and that the concept of multiple universes, for example, is an accepted theory (the Many-Worlds Interpretation in quantum mechanics), not merely an idea in the realms of science fiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 Just now, redjambo said: It's quite a remarkable experiment, and works with both light and matter. Much of quantum mechanics is counter-intuitive but highly fascinating, especially when you realise that our world is built on probabilities and that the concept of multiple universes, for example, is an accepted theory (the Many-Worlds Interpretation in quantum mechanics), not merely an idea in the realms of science fiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment 13 minutes ago, redjambo said: Nope, due to our differing "visual" input organs. Dogs, for example, with their differing cones and rods, can see fewer colours than humans can. Some animals can perceive radiation outwith the human visual spectrum. It would be quite a shock for us if we were to transfer into a dog's body and see the world as they see it. With all the animal species out there with different brain and "eye" formations, I would imagine it is unlikely that we all interpret colours the same, e.g. that one species' "blue" is the same as another's. We have no idea even if your "blue" is the same as mine, and I might be very surprised to see the world as you see it (your "blue" might be my "red" for example). Colour exists on its own though. It doesn't need visualised. Purple doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ked said: Colour exists on its own though. It doesn't need visualised. Purple doesn't. To @redjambos insight about dogs though, they can't see the same colours as us. It feels very human-centric to say colours are absolute (purple aside it seems). If not visualised, isn't it just an object absorbing and reflecting light? What if an alien (bare with me 😂) saw totally differently and said none of our colours exist. Who's right? I love stuff like this but have zero knowledge so I appreciate the about could be about belly rumblings 😂 Edit: is this why making maroon light is hard? Edited May 9 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Just now, Ked said: Colour exists on its own though. It doesn't need visualised. Purple doesn't. The EM spectrum exists, of which the visible spectrum is part. "Colour" is how the brain interprets the visible spectrum, and combinations of its the colours therein with other colours and greyscale, along with lighting, context, memory etc. Purple is not special. *Everything* needs visualised - that's how the eye/brain mechanism works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Taffin said: To @redjambos insight about dogs though, they can't see the same colours as us. It feels very human-centric to say colours are absolute (purple aside it seems). If not visualised, isn't it just an object absorbing and reflecting light? What if an alien (bare with me 😂) saw totally differently and said none of our colours exist. Who's right? I love stuff like this but have zero knowledge so I appreciate the about could be about belly rumblings 😂 Edit: is this why making maroon light is hard? 1 hour ago, redjambo said: The EM spectrum exists, of which the visible spectrum is part. "Colour" is how the brain interprets the visible spectrum, and combinations of its the colours therein with other colours and greyscale, along with lighting, context, memory etc. Purple is not special. *Everything* needs visualised - that's how the eye/brain mechanism works. Obviously I'm arguing from a place of little knowledge. But colour exists without us visualising it. Except purple 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 As far as I can make out colour exists outside of our brain. On its own as part of light waves. It's it's own thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If carlsberg did rivals... Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 15 hours ago, Ked said: Isn't really a colour in physics it's just invented by our brains? Is purple not traditionally a Regal colour? Very expensive back in the day as the dye was obtained from sea snails or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 5 minutes ago, Ked said: As far as I can make out colour exists outside of our brain. On its own as part of light waves. It's it's own thing . Wait . I might be wrong. In fact I am . I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 15 minutes ago, If carlsberg did rivals... said: Is purple not traditionally a Regal colour? Very expensive back in the day as the dye was obtained from sea snails or similar. It was extracted from peasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 17 minutes ago, If carlsberg did rivals... said: Is purple not traditionally a Regal colour? Very expensive back in the day as the dye was obtained from sea snails or similar. Silk Cut were purple, weren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If carlsberg did rivals... Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Lovecraft said: It was extracted from peasants. What, the birds? 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If carlsberg did rivals... Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Silk Cut were purple, weren't they? So expensive because they were purple, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 4 hours ago, superjack said: Although I've stopped the baccie, I still smoke it but through a water bong. I still miss sharing a joint with mates though. If the edibles were readily available up here though I would switch to them. 👍👍 I miss a wee cake !! 🎂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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