Odds on next manager

[Bazzas right boot]

10 minutes ago, jambopilms said:

Our current injury list will put potential managers off. Basically starting with one arm tied. 

 

hamstrung even....

[Tennant's 6's]

6 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

More movement for Kirk

 

Steve Robinson
7/4
David Moyes
4/1
Roy Keane
4/1
Andy Kirk
5/1
Jack Ross
7/1
John Robertson
9/1

Not now, but can see him being the head coach / manager. 

Comes across well in interviews. 

[Newton51]

1 minute ago, Tennant's 6's said:

League 1 or 2.. Can't see him getting a better gig than Hearts just now.

Would still prefer a more ambitious appointment,  but can't see him turning us down

 

Yeah league 1 probably. Have a feeling we will end up with robbo and Kirk being promoted 

[Shanks said no]

3 minutes ago, Gambo said:

What's Takis Fyssas up to these days?

Greek politician

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

People probably underestimate how much we would probably be prepared to invest in a decent manager.

 

As Budge said we had a cracking year financially last year - we are in our best financial position ever.

 

We have the means by which to splash out a bit and my feeling is Ann places a huge amount of value on spending money to get quality 

[JamboAl]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

You are just quoting excuses constantly.

 

At one point you’re going to run out of them and have to admit the squad was put together in an ill-thought out manner.

 

As a manager you need to be forward thinking. You need to be ready to cover most, if not all eventualities.

 

Craig Levein didn’t which is why he is no longer our manager.

I thought for a second you were going to come back and discuss the subject rather than the poster but if you can't I'll understand.

How many players of equal ability would you need to have to cover every eventuality and how would we fund that?

i agree he is no longer our manager but that is incidental to the situation.  We would need to know how someone else could have coped with these missing players bearing in mind it's not just their ability that is lost but it also creates a lack of continuity in selections, formation and tactics.   BTW I'm not remotely suggesting CL got everything right.

As it happens things are starting to look better for whoever gets the gig with Walker playing against St J, Naismith probably playing on Sunday and Haring back on the training field  as per a tweet I saw to day.

 

PS - Would you play SN on Sunday or would you not take the chance?

Since we are looking for a new manager, who do you think has these forward looking skills and the ability to cover every eventuality that you mention?  That will help Dr Budge if she's reading your reply.

[Maroon Sailor]

What price is Nigel Adkins ?

 

Goalkeeper in his playing days - could help out our bombscares

 

Physio - keep the players fit and healthy

 

Manager - plays attractive football and players seem to enjoy playing in his teams

 

 

[Morgan]

21 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

More movement for Kirk

 

Steve Robinson
7/4
David Moyes
4/1
Roy Keane
4/1
Andy Kirk
5/1
Jack Ross
7/1
John Robertson
9/1

For me, forget about Robinson, Kirk and Ross.

 

Concentrate on both Moyes and Keane (either would be great) and that lovely wee bloke, Robertson, just because I love him.

[DH1986]

3 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

I thought for a second you were going to come back and discuss the subject rather than the poster but if you can't I'll understand.

How many players of equal ability would you need to have to cover every eventuality and how would we fund that?

i agree he is no longer our manager but that is incidental to the situation.  We would need to know how someone else could have coped with these missing players bearing in mind it's not just their ability that is lost but it also creates a lack of continuity in selections, formation and tactics.   BTW I'm not remotely suggesting CL got everything right.

As it happens things are starting to look better for whoever gets the gig with Walker playing against St J, Naismith probably playing on Sunday and Haring back on the training field  as per a tweet I saw to day.

 

PS - Would you play SN on Sunday or would you not take the chance?

Since we are looking for a new manager, who do you think has these forward looking skills and the ability to cover every eventuality that you mention?  That will help Dr Budge if she's reading your reply.

I’ve discussed the subject.....to death.

 

All you can say is “but we had injuries”.....you have been trotting out this line for months.

 

Our situation is not just injury related. A blind man could see this.

 

The team is completely void of any ideas. CL couldn’t raise a semi with a pocket full of viagra at his disposal.....never mind this squad.

 

He admitted last season he didn’t know how to change things when we were mid a shitty run.

 

He’s lost it as far as managing a team at this level is concerned.

 

As for Naismith.....if he isn’t 100% fit then I wouldn’t even have him on the damn bus. No point in risking him.

 

 

 

[JamboAl]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

I’ve discussed the subject.....to death.

 

All you can say is “but we had injuries”.....you have been trotting out this line for months.

 

Our situation is not just injury related. A blind man could see this.

 

The team is completely void of any ideas. CL couldn’t raise a semi with a pocket full of viagra at his disposal.....never mind this squad.

 

He admitted last season he didn’t know how to change things when we were mid a shitty run.

 

He’s lost it as far as managing a team at this level is concerned.

 

As for Naismith.....if he isn’t 100% fit then I wouldn’t even have him on the damn bus. No point in risking him.

 

 

 

Oh dear  . A very evasive and illuminating reply.

Re SN' if the medics and physios have cleared him, would you play him on Sunday?

I notice you have overlooked my question re our new manager with the forward looking ability to cover every  eventuality.  It should be easy because I reckon you'll have very few to pick from.  However, if there are hundreds it will be easier still to pick out a plum.

[Bridge of Djoum]

2 hours ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

The last Robinson at hearts was well loved right enough👀🤔

 

Lets push the boat out here & bring moyes and weir in. Everton connections with our two Naismiths currently at the club-perhaps they could act as a go between in negotiations. 

 

Failing that my preference wouod be O’neill should NI not qualify for euros, Keane or bring back Robbie.

Scott? He was alright. 

[Walter Bishop]

Keane or Moyes would bring the fans back and be a real statement of intent. 

 

Kirk, Ross, Robinson, MacPhee, Daly etc GTF! 

[DH1986]

4 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

Oh dear  . A very evasive and illuminating reply.

Re SN' if the medics and physios have cleared him, would you play him on Sunday?

I notice you have overlooked my question re our new manager with the forward looking ability to cover every  eventuality.  It should be easy because I reckon you'll have very few to pick from.  However, if there are hundreds it will be easier still to pick out a plum.

Nothing evasive about it.

 

My stance and reasoning has been absolutely nailed high to the mast. It’s clear and concise and leaves no wriggling room for you or anyone else who is trying to defend the start we’ve had to this season.

 

CL stated this was a strong squad....well what a load of utter garbage that was. And I said so at the time.

 

If he hadn’t wasted so much on players he didn’t play or were horse manure then I’ve no doubt adequate cover could have been found.

 

Don't sign Doyle, Dikamona, White, Garruchio, Bozanic, Clare, McLean, Wighton and find 4 players capable of making a positive impact. Those 8 could be replaced with youth players and it would make zero difference to our current league position. 

But then you’d have 4 better options to call upon.

CL has failed because he’s recruited poorly. That is an absolute fact.

 

 

[jr ewing]

8 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Keane or Moyes would bring the fans back and be a real statement of intent. 

 

Kirk, Ross, Robinson, MacPhee, Daly etc GTF! 

Experienced  managers may only apply. 

[heartsfc_fan]

Paulo Sergio manager.

Skacel assistant.

 

🥴

[JamboAl]

11 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

Nothing evasive about it.

 

My stance and reasoning has been absolutely nailed high to the mast. It’s clear and concise and leaves no wriggling room for you or anyone else who is trying to defend the start we’ve had to this season.

 

CL stated this was a strong squad....well what a load of utter garbage that was. And I said so at the time.

 

If he hadn’t wasted so much on players he didn’t play or were horse manure then I’ve no doubt adequate cover could have been found.

 

Don't sign Doyle, Dikamona, White, Garruchio, Bozanic, Clare, McLean, Wighton and find 4 players capable of making a positive impact. Those 8 could be replaced with youth players and it would make zero difference to our current league position. 

But then you’d have 4 better options to call upon.

CL has failed because he’s recruited poorly. That is an absolute fact.

 

 

Aye CL is gone so you can comfort yourself but what about answering the questions?

[RobNox]

54 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

People probably underestimate how much we would probably be prepared to invest in a decent manager.

 

As Budge said we had a cracking year financially last year - we are in our best financial position ever.

 

We have the means by which to splash out a bit and my feeling is Ann places a huge amount of value on spending money to get quality 

 

I agree.  The Manager is the most important role at the club, so it would make sense to target the best we can get even if that means splashing the cash.  

 

Think of all the money we've wasted on poor signings over the past few years, how much money have we spent on wages for players who can't get into the team while we've waited to get them off the books?

 

A better manager with a good record in player recruitment and development could pay for himself many times over, through reducing the number of duds we sign and the overall turnover of players, and by unearthing the occasional gem who goes on to earn us a decent transfer fee.

[Maroon Sailor]

Feck Keano

 

Failed at every club he's been at as manager. Arrogant gobshite tosspot.

 

I actually think wee Robbo could be the man. Hearts are a different club the last time he was manager and he would bring back the feel good factor as well as attacking football.

[Leisham38]

Can’t fathom anyone not wanting Moyes at Hearts.

 

Wonder what the difference between Tommy McLean and Robinson records at Motherwell are? 
 

O’Neill would be my ideal candidate if available

[ScoPo]

6 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

Feck Keano

 

Failed at every club he's been at as manager. Arrogant gobshite tosspot.

 

I actually think wee Robbo could be the man. Hearts are a different club the last time he was manager and he would bring back the feel good factor as well as attacking football.

Robbo's managerial record holds up well too.  What he is achieving with the current ICT squad, a club with financial difficulties too, is first class work.  

[RobNox]

Just now, Leisham38 said:

Can’t fathom anyone not wanting Moyes at Hearts.

 

Wonder what the difference between Tommy McLean and Robinson records at Motherwell are? 
 

O’Neill would be my ideal candidate if available

 

I have concerns about O'Neill, even though I very much doubt we could afford to get him anyway, or that he would want to give up the NI job.

 

If we did manage to get him, it would be a costly appointment, as he's on a hefty wedge for doing a part time job with NI and we'd have to compensate the IFA.

 

He's not managed at club level anywhere near our standard, and while he may have worked wonders with the players at his disposal for NI, there is no guarantee that form will translate to managing a SPL side.

 

For me, it would be a costly appointment with too much risk.  If we are going to push the boat out, I'd rather try to get Moyes.

[Jambomuzz]

Ann budge is away to Portugal for the weekend.... Make of that what you wish. 

[CloustonHMFC]

3 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said:

Ann budge is away to Portugal for the weekend.... Make of that what you wish. 

Mourinho is happening folks 🇱🇻🇵🇹

[Maroon Sailor]

4 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said:

Ann budge is away to Portugal for the weekend.... Make of that what you wish. 

 

Her annual holiday at this time of year is what I make of that

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2019 by Maroon Sailor

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, Barack said:

That she's ****ing off to watch Hearts in the sun, instead of Hampden?

 

Fair enough. Can't be arsed with Portugal though, personally.

 

 

She was planning to boycott the game all along! 

[Famous 1874]

Moyes or Big Sam would be ambitious appointments. Finances could be problematic though.

 

Robinson/Ross/Keane etc would be a very lacklustre appointment and doesn’t show much ambition. 

[Cruyff Turn]

**** it. Bring back George Burley. 

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

28 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

**** it. Bring back George Burley. 

Take a wee trip down to Wotherspoons on George street and start the negotiations then forthwith.

 

(jokes I actually like handsome was a top manager unfairly treated by mad vlad)

[JamboAl]

1 hour ago, RobNox said:

 

I have concerns about O'Neill, even though I very much doubt we could afford to get him anyway, or that he would want to give up the NI job.

 

If we did manage to get him, it would be a costly appointment, as he's on a hefty wedge for doing a part time job with NI and we'd have to compensate the IFA.

 

He's not managed at club level anywhere near our standard, and while he may have worked wonders with the players at his disposal for NI, there is no guarantee that form will translate to managing a SPL side.

 

For me, it would be a costly appointment with too much risk.  If we are going to push the boat out, I'd rather try to get Moyes.

I think so too.

 

[Maroon Sailor]

Latest with SKYBET

 

Steve Robinson 7/4

David Moyes 4/1

Roy Keane 4/1

Andy Kirk 5/1

Jack Ross 7/1

John Robertson 9/1

Austin MacPhee 12/1

Michael O'Neill 16/1

Neil McCann 16/1

Paul Hartley 16/1

Gary Holt 18/1

Steven Pressley 18/1

Gary Naysmith 20/1

Henrik Larsson 20/1

Jon Daly 20/1

Scot Gemmill 20/1

Aidy Boothroyd 22/1

Malky Mackay 22/1

Nathan Jones 22/1

Edited November 2, 2019 by Maroon Sailor

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

christ

One Robinson already had a fair crack at destroying the club, it would only be right and quite poetic for another Robinson to actually succeed and relegate us.

 

Not having him as the next coach tbh we should be aiming higher than a manager that’s won nothing and hasn’t placed a team in top six irrespective of surname.

[Maroon Sailor]

Paul Scholes 22/1

Robbie Neilson 22/1

Steve Watson 22/1

Daniel Stendel 25/1

Darren Fletcher 25/1

Ian McCall 25/1

Jose Gomes 25/1

Juho Mäkelä 25/1

Owen Coyle 25/1

Shelley Kerr 25/1

Aitor Karanka 28/1

Chris Coleman 28/1

Alex Neil 33/1

David Obua 33/1

George Burley 33/1

Neil Harris 33/1

Stuart McCall 33/1

Mike Newell 100/1

[jambo_]

rather give macphee a shot than robinson ... but hope we aim higher

[Maroon Sailor]

Feck knows why Mike Newell is being quoted

[Maroon Sailor]

Stendel would be an interesting one

[3fingersreid]

I’m not advocating him for the job , way too early for him , but I can’t fathom out the , Kirk GTF some have posted . Not sure it’s fair to apportion some of the blame to him for the piss poor performances we’ve had to endure . 

[jambo_]

6 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

Stendel would be an interesting one

 

yes that would be very interesting, very very interesting..... 🤞

Edited November 2, 2019 by jambo_

[Uncle Buck]

Keane 4/1? Hmm that is interesting. Not seen him mentioned anywhere else. He would certainly toughen us up.

[Eldar Hadzimehmedovic]

Couple of hints on this thread that O'Neill hasn't done much at club level. Won Shamrock Rovers a first title in 16 years then retained it. Also took them to the EL group stages, knocking out Partizan Belgrade on the way. Not too shabby. 

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

26 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

Couple of hints on this thread that O'Neill hasn't done much at club level. Won Shamrock Rovers a first title in 16 years then retained it. Also took them to the EL group stages, knocking out Partizan Belgrade on the way. Not too shabby. 

Indeed. No way he will manage us next though.

[tntjambo]

Stewart Baxter has to be in the frame

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

7 minutes ago, tntjambo said:

Stewart Baxter has to be in the frame

How about signor scala?🤔😂

[RobNox]

1 hour ago, Maroon Sailor said:

Feck knows why Mike Newell is being quoted

 

And why is Stuart Baxter not on the list?  I thought that was mandatory!

[RobNox]

4 hours ago, Heres Rixxy said:

Motherwell boss Stephen Robinson is Hearts' number one choice to succeed Craig Levein as manager, Sky Sports News understands.

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11790/11851337/motherwell-boss-stephen-robinson-is-hearts-first-choice-to-become-new-manager

 

Personally I don't want another Robinson back at Hearts.

 

I'd imagine they don't have a clue, and are simply guessing based on the bookies odds.  They say nothing to back up why they 'understand' that Robinson is the no.1 choice.

[Jcsujambo]

Some strong rumours circulating that David Moyes is the man. Time will tell...

[AlphonseCapone]

13 minutes ago, Jcsujambo said:

Some strong rumours circulating that David Moyes is the man. Time will tell...

 

What makes these rumours strong?

[Forever Hearts]

3 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

What makes these rumours strong?

They're circulating, strongly. 

[MattyK82]

1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said:

They're circulating, strongly. 

😂😂

[part_time_jambo]

5 hours ago, RobNox said:

 

And why is Stuart Baxter not on the list?  I thought that was mandatory!

Is he actually a real person?

[kingantti1874]

Putting aside Moyes who would be a coup.. I really would like us do go for Daniel Stendel.. seems he was incredibly popular with the Barnsley fans.. near 50% win ratio as well..