General Election 2019

[JamboX2]

4 hours ago, Cade said:

Cummings resigns as a SPAD

 

This now lets him work behind the scenes with zero accountability.

 

Nearly all SPADs resign at elections.

 

Allows them to do official party work. They're then reappointed if they win. Standard practice. 

[Roxy Hearts]

1 hour ago, Zlatanable said:

'He's an uncle Tom fruitcake. Like a lot on here. Absolute bams."

 

Your context, being a Scottish Nationalist, allows you to call fellow Scots 'Uncle Toms'. Nicola Sturgeon even, perhaps, will fully endorse your statement, as millions of your fellow civic  nationalists will. 

 

He's an uncle Tom like many subservient Scots such as Ruth Davidson and Ian Murray. Couldn't care less what Nicola Sturgeon thinks about their servility. I believe in the nation of Scotland and it's self governance so if that makes me a Scotnat, Braveheart patriot or whatever then so be it. 

 

You're a Britnat as you believe in the British state misruling Scotland and so be it. Do you like being called British or Scottish or both? They are very different IMO. 

[Roxy Hearts]

8 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

 

...except for <list names of people that are less than human> 

What are you on about matey? Some are less Scottish than others such as Neil but he is a human being although not a particularly pleasant one, IMO. He comes across as fairly warped and twisted especially when he's discussing the country he was born in. Can't people just say that Scotland could run its own affairs but would rather stay in the UK instead of being dismissive with blatant propaganda.

[ri Alban]

#BringbackBercow!

[jumpship]

12 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

 

Simplistic but bang on the money... 

 

Posting pictures of "save our NHS" in the morning. 

 

Posting " Britain is full" in the afternoon 

 

Posting "Vote conservative" in the evening. 

[Brighton Jambo]

19 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

I doubt there’s enough Jewish folk in the U.K. to turn the tide against the Labour Party or enough Jewish folk stupid enough to believe the propaganda. 

 

These NHS revelations will kill the Tory Party campaign now. 

They really won’t.

 

Corbyn hasn’t conducted this campaign as badly as Teresa May conducted the last one.  

 

Yesterday was an embarrassment for Labour with doctors in uniform handing out the report like in a pantomime, a report it turns out says much of nothing.

 

then this morning it turns out the WASPI payments benefit the wealthy far more than the less well off, so an unfunded £58b giveaway benefits the wealthy!  Good one.  

 

Then his his car crash interview with Neil.  

 

The labour vote is collapsing and if the Tories win there will be much screaming and lamenting on here about the stupidity of the voting public.  The anger and the frustration should be aimed squarely at Jeremy Corbyn.  To not be able to beat this current toxic government is a scandal for the ages.  

[ri Alban]

Spoiler

 

Matt Hancock is as thick as feck!

 

Oh and he has a magic nurses tree.

[doctor jambo]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Matt Hancock is as thick as feck!

 

Oh and he has a magic nurses tree.

He is.

He doesn't

 

However, I know a lot of Dr's - and NONE of them would vote Corbyn in a billion years with his

" the NHS is on its knees, we have a Dr crisis and too few consultants and GP's who have been living in austerity with effective pay cuts for over a decade now year-on- year. So we are going to increase the morale and number of Dr's by handing them all whopping big tax bills, so effectively another pay cut, because that is how to improve recruitment and retention"

 

The guy is off his feckin chump

[Victorian]

LDs flip flopped back to backing a 2nd referendum after conceding they wont win a majority.

 

 

Eh nut... you've seen how unpopular the revoke message was.    Saying any insincere thing to try to win a dozen seats.    As ever.

[doctor jambo]

7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

LDs flip flopped back to backing a 2nd referendum after conceding they wont win a majority.

 

 

Eh nut... you've seen how unpopular the revoke message was.    Saying any insincere thing to try to win a dozen seats.    As ever.

They had a shot, they blew it.

Huge Tory majority hoves into view

[SE16 3LN]

12 hours ago, Class of 75 said:

I think you are getting a wee bit messed up there pal. You need to understand politics better. By the way I don't earn anywhere near £80k. Just for info the Labour Party is not working class and is controlled by an Islington elite. Neither do I think Hitler was a socialist. Words fail me. 

and the earths flat.

Edited November 28, 2019 by SE16 3LN
Mistake

[jumpship]

Sky News: https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-live-ifs-delivers-verdict-on-election-manifestos-11872231?inApp=true

 

Tories and Labour not got a clue how to tackle the £2 trillion worth of UK debt... 

 

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Brighton Jambo said:

They really won’t.

 

Corbyn hasn’t conducted this campaign as badly as Teresa May conducted the last one.  

 

Yesterday was an embarrassment for Labour with doctors in uniform handing out the report like in a pantomime, a report it turns out says much of nothing.

 

then this morning it turns out the WASPI payments benefit the wealthy far more than the less well off, so an unfunded £58b giveaway benefits the wealthy!  Good one.  

 

Then his his car crash interview with Neil.  

 

The labour vote is collapsing and if the Tories win there will be much screaming and lamenting on here about the stupidity of the voting public.  The anger and the frustration should be aimed squarely at Jeremy Corbyn.  To not be able to beat this current toxic government is a scandal for the ages.  

 

Doctors - Not to sure whether they could get into bother with their NHS bosses, not because they were at a Labour event, but because they were wearing their scrubs/uniform in public and were presumably off duty.  Not sure what their health board rules say about that.

 

WASPI - Seen an interview last week with an employment lawyer who said that if Labour compensated the women they would get taken to court for sex discrimination, seemingly there are thousands of men who also missed out just like the women did, not to the same extent but still missed out nonetheless and would raise a court case against Labour to be compensated as well.

[SE16 3LN]

9 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

 

...except for <list names of people that are less than human> 

Superb stuff from the foot fetishists apprentice

[RobboM]

10 hours ago, JamboX2 said:

 

Nearly all SPADs resign at elections.

 

Allows them to do official party work. They're then reappointed if they win. Standard practice. 

BBC breakfast news had a short piece quoting Cummings blog directly. No counterpoint and the guy himself doesn't subject himself to public interview .... similar as Boris the chicken

 

[Victorian]

Labour candidate in Falkirk binned over anti-semitic social media content.

[Don Dan]

39 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

Doctors - Not to sure whether they could get into bother with their NHS bosses, not because they were at a Labour event, but because they were wearing their scrubs/uniform in public and were presumably off duty.  Not sure what their health board rules say about that.

 Theatre staff – uniforms specifically allocated to this area must not be worn outside of the area unless in an emergency and, where possible, appropriately covered.
 Uniforms must not be visible outside of the trusts grounds unless on official duties. When escorting a patient to another hospital / to the car park a cardigan or coat may be worn.
5. Recommendations and procedures
All staff have a responsibility to ensure that they adhere to the Dress Code / Uniform Policy
The Dress Code / Uniform Policy audit tool (appendix 1) should be used to audit staff appearance and compliance with the policy.
All line managers are responsible to ensure that their staff comply with the policy and have the responsibility for auditing compliance with the policy for their own staff.
Staff in breach of the policy should be challenged and reported to their line manager
Repeated disregard of the Dress Code / Uniform Policy will be considered as misconduct and could lead to disciplinary action being taken in line with the Trust Disciplinary Policy / Procedure.

https://www.wsh.nhs.uk/CMS-Documents/Trust-policies/201-250/PP16215DressCode-Uniform.pdf

 

 

[Brighton Jambo]

15 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

 Theatre staff – uniforms specifically allocated to this area must not be worn outside of the area unless in an emergency and, where possible, appropriately covered.
 Uniforms must not be visible outside of the trusts grounds unless on official duties. When escorting a patient to another hospital / to the car park a cardigan or coat may be worn.
5. Recommendations and procedures
All staff have a responsibility to ensure that they adhere to the Dress Code / Uniform Policy
The Dress Code / Uniform Policy audit tool (appendix 1) should be used to audit staff appearance and compliance with the policy.
All line managers are responsible to ensure that their staff comply with the policy and have the responsibility for auditing compliance with the policy for their own staff.
Staff in breach of the policy should be challenged and reported to their line manager
Repeated disregard of the Dress Code / Uniform Policy will be considered as misconduct and could lead to disciplinary action being taken in line with the Trust Disciplinary Policy / Procedure.

https://www.wsh.nhs.uk/CMS-Documents/Trust-policies/201-250/PP16215DressCode-Uniform.pdf

 

 

The whole people in outfits element was pathetic.  If the contents of that document were as serious as JC claimed why either undermine or over egg the whole thing by having doctors or nurses handing it out.  Whoever thought that up should be fired as it distracted from what they were trying to do.

 

smacked of desperation 

[Victorian]

7 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

The whole people in outfits element was pathetic.  If the contents of that document were as serious as JC claimed why either undermine or over egg the whole thing by having doctors or nurses handing it out.  Whoever thought that up should be fired as it distracted from what they were trying to do.

 

smacked of desperation 

 

Yeah... like some of the Tory play book hasn't been pathetic and desperate.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

19 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

 Theatre staff – uniforms specifically allocated to this area must not be worn outside of the area unless in an emergency and, where possible, appropriately covered.
 Uniforms must not be visible outside of the trusts grounds unless on official duties. When escorting a patient to another hospital / to the car park a cardigan or coat may be worn.
5. Recommendations and procedures
All staff have a responsibility to ensure that they adhere to the Dress Code / Uniform Policy
The Dress Code / Uniform Policy audit tool (appendix 1) should be used to audit staff appearance and compliance with the policy.
All line managers are responsible to ensure that their staff comply with the policy and have the responsibility for auditing compliance with the policy for their own staff.
Staff in breach of the policy should be challenged and reported to their line manager
Repeated disregard of the Dress Code / Uniform Policy will be considered as misconduct and could lead to disciplinary action being taken in line with the Trust Disciplinary Policy / Procedure.

https://www.wsh.nhs.uk/CMS-Documents/Trust-policies/201-250/PP16215DressCode-Uniform.pdf

 

 

 

My wife gets emails from the health board quite regularly reminding all staff that the wearing of uniforms outside of work is not permitted, they even discourage staff from wearing uniforms to & from work, hence why they have lockers & a changing room so that staff can change into their uniform at the hospital.

They are also reminded that staff should remain non-political at all times whilst on duty.

 

 

[Mikey1874]

11 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

The whole people in outfits element was pathetic.  If the contents of that document were as serious as JC claimed why either undermine or over egg the whole thing by having doctors or nurses handing it out.  Whoever thought that up should be fired as it distracted from what they were trying to do.

 

smacked of desperation 

 

Its true its desperation

 

But well behind in polls you do what you have to do. Same as Boris is keeping very quiet both in policy and personal terms. 

 

But the actual substance is drug pricing. One of the big successes of the NHS. And a big risk under what the USA wants. 

[gjcc]

BBC struggling to pin down a date for Bowis’ erse ripping. Coward.  

[Brighton Jambo]

49 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Yeah... like some of the Tory play book hasn't been pathetic and desperate.

Why is it that whenever someone makes a point on here the default response is just to fire back and say ‘yeah but (insert party here) are as bad’

 

the Tories are clearly not a desperate as labour as the polls show they are beating them comfortably. 

 

My point was about playing politics and right now BJ is destroying JC.  BJ doesn’t go on Andrew Neil gets called a coward story lasts a day.  The fallout of JC car crash will run for days if not weeks.  It was so naive to go on that show and trust that BJ would do likewise - that’s politics though and JC doesn’t know how to play to win.  I mean, saying he’s neutral over the biggest issue in the last 30 years will go down in history as one of the worst political strategies ever.  

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Its true its desperation

 

But well behind in polls you do what you have to do. Same as Boris is keeping very quiet both in policy and personal terms. 

 

But the actual substance is drug pricing. One of the big successes of the NHS. And a big risk under what the USA wants. 

 

Let's face it, they are all guilty of pulling stunts if they think it'll get their message over.

 

That is why I'm not criticising Labour over this because the others would do the same or similar.

 

I'm just disappointed that those Doctors allowed themselves and the wearing of their uniform to be used for political means, however in saying that, that decision to wear their uniforms would have been theirs and theirs alone and they choose to do so, despite known full well that it was in breach of their terms of employment, therefore if their health board discipline them, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Jambo-Jimbo

[Brighton Jambo]

Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Let's face it, they are all guilty of pulling stunts if they think it'll get their message over.

 

That is why I'm not criticising Labour over this because the others would do the same or similar.

 

I'm just disappointed that those Doctors allowed themselves and the wearing of their uniform to be used for political means, however in saying that, that decision to wear their uniforms would have been theirs and theirs alone and they choose to do so, despite known full well that it was in breach of their terms of employment, therefore if their health board disipline them, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.

The level of dislike for which I hold for the current Labour Party is almost immeasurable but I really hope no action is taken against those nurses and doctors.   I’m sure they will have thought they were doing the right thing.  

[manaliveits105]

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

[Cade]

Tory local branches have all been given individually tailored smear booklets by CCHQ, containing out of context, out of date and just plain wrong statements made by opposing candidates of other parties.

Full-on attack mode from the nasty party.

 

 

[AlphonseCapone]

11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

 

[Victorian]

13 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah of course the First Minister of Scotland should resign for the Tories being corrupt,  deceitful scum.      

[Mikey1874]

10 minutes ago, Cade said:

Tory local branches have all been given individually tailored smear booklets by CCHQ, containing out of context, out of date and just plain wrong statements made by opposing candidates of other parties.

Full-on attack mode from the nasty party.

 

 

 

They possibly don't need to do any of that.

 

But they are laying the foundations for complete distrust and a break down in respect.

 

Though maybe just us will notice. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

24 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

The level of dislike for which I hold for the current Labour Party is almost immeasurable but I really hope no action is taken against those nurses and doctors.   I’m sure they will have thought they were doing the right thing.  

 

At most it'll be a talking to and smack on the wrists, nothing more.

 

[Dawnrazor]

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1442753-labour-axe-election-candidate-over-anti-semetic-posts/

[Mikey1874]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1442753-labour-axe-election-candidate-over-anti-semetic-posts/

 

You would think these things would be checked earlier.

 

Too late to replace her but presumably an SNP walk in anyway. 

[Brighton Jambo]

I’m watching the constituency polls like a hawk as there is one labour MP who I know very well and have worked with.  You have never met a lazier, more incompetent, out of touch idiot and yet they managed to get themselves elected.  It makes me despair.

 

their seat is very much up for grabs so here’s hoping.  I obviously won’t name them till after as that doesn’t seem fair.   

[dc-jambo]

New STV poll: SNP 44, the BJs 26, Labour 16. See www.stv.tv. Also a good article by Bernard Ponsonby on the ‘constitutional crisis’ that might follow such an SNP landslide 

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, Brighton Jambo said:

Why is it that whenever someone makes a point on here the default response is just to fire back and say ‘yeah but (insert party here) are as bad’

 

the Tories are clearly not a desperate as labour as the polls show they are beating them comfortably. 

 

My point was about playing politics and right now BJ is destroying JC.  BJ doesn’t go on Andrew Neil gets called a coward story lasts a day.  The fallout of JC car crash will run for days if not weeks.  It was so naive to go on that show and trust that BJ would do likewise - that’s politics though and JC doesn’t know how to play to win.  I mean, saying he’s neutral over the biggest issue in the last 30 years will go down in history as one of the worst political strategies ever.  

That's what you've just did and then you greet about it. The Tories are liars to a man, but hey look at the SNP/Labour. 

[Brighton Jambo]

4 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

That's what you've just did and then you greet about it. The Tories are liars to a man, but hey look at the SNP/Labour. 

I was responding to his post so of course I had to mention labour and the conservatives.    Your post makes no sense.  

 

Didn’t mention SNP once in my post.  Not one mention so why bring them to it?  

 

 

Edited November 28, 2019 by Brighton Jambo

[jack D and coke]

1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

 

[ri Alban]

Just now, Brighton Jambo said:

Didn’t mention SNP once in my post.  Not one mention so why bring them to it?

Are you not on this and other threads slagging the SNP or Labour, every chance you get.

Anyway, feck the Tories and all who vote for them.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

41 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

You would think these things would be checked earlier.

 

Too late to replace her but presumably an SNP walk in anyway. 

 

Exactly, there was a tory just yesterday who was suspended for comments that she'd made.

 

Perhaps the vetting process for all the parties needs to be better.

[Brighton Jambo]

2 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Are you not on this and other threads slagging the SNP or Labour, every chance you get.

Anyway, feck the Tories and all who vote for them.

Doesn’t apply to me as not voting for them!

 

while you are here though yesterday’s SNP manifesto launch was one of the most pathetic messages I have ever heard.  Vote SNP to protect Scotland from Boris Johnson.  What a cowardly feart offering that is.  Scotland so weak it needs protecting from one man.   

 

What about vote SNP to allow Scotland to become a bold thriving, prosperous country etc.  Of course not, as usual hiding behind grievance and The big bad Tories whose vote is holding up well.  Looks like the pro unions percentage of the vote will outweigh pro Indy pretty heavily.  Not great for a GE but ideal if you ever get another vote, which doesn’t look likely.  

 

Anyway as you say, feck the SNP and all who vote for them.  

[Justin Z]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

You would think these things would be checked earlier.

 

Too late to replace her but presumably an SNP walk in anyway. 

 

It's strange, because at the last election she stood as an independent and actively campaigned against Labour.

 

Nobody else besides her stood for Labour in Falkirk this time, so she was selected by default. Makes me think they're all too happy to get rid of her, and I've not been able to find the actual offensive Facebook posts anywhere--has anyone else?

 

Whole thing just seems really weird.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

[Justin Z]

https://twitter.com/PhilipPullman/status/1199986184174346241

 

😬

[Class of 75]

4 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

and the earths flat.

👍

[maroonlegions]

2 hours ago, Brighton Jambo said:

I’m watching the constituency polls like a hawk as there is one labour MP who I know very well and have worked with.  You have never met a lazier, more incompetent, out of touch idiot and yet they managed to get themselves elected.  It makes me despair.

 

their seat is very much up for grabs so here’s hoping.  I obviously won’t name them till after as that doesn’t seem fair.   

 Boris echoed the same sentiments once. 

If irony was also up for election then who would be having the landslide i wonder.

 

Corbyn faced McNeil because he aint no coward and was not afraid of "CROSS EXAMINATION " on Labour's manifesto,  Boris was very afraid, nothing to do with the that's just politics and the poor judgement of Corbyn thinking Boris was in any way a spineless cowardly  snake, who feared being exposed as the serial liar he is.

 

Put it this way anyone fearing a cross examination is at it and hiding like the faceless cowards they are. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ray Gin]

3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

A Tory landslide and Jimmy Crankie resigns if she has any decency

 

 

 

 

There will be no Tory landslide in Scotland. 

Scotland hasn't voted for a Tory government since the 1950s.

 

[Brighton Jambo]

1 minute ago, maroonlegions said:

 Boris echoed the same sentiments once. 

If irony was also up for election then who would be having the landslide i wonder.

 

Corbyn faced McNeil because he aint no coward and was not afraid of "CROSS EXAMINATION " on Labour's manifesto,  Boris was very afraid, nothing to do with the that's just politics and the poor judgement of Corbyn thinking Boris was in any way a spineless cowardly  snake, who feared being exposed as the serial liar he is.

 

Put it this way anyone fearing a cross examination is at it and hiding like the faceless cowards they are. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That quote is a belter.  You wonder what question he was asked to answer like that! 

[maroonlegions]

I see that the Tories are sinking to even more draconian  like desperate levels  of spin and manipulation.

 

In the form of a council tax bill too, oh they just dont know IRONY ..

Edited November 28, 2019 by maroonlegions

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

 Boris echoed the same sentiments once. 

If irony was also up for election then who would be having the landslide i wonder.

 

Corbyn faced McNeil because he aint no coward and was not afraid of "CROSS EXAMINATION " on Labour's manifesto,  Boris was very afraid, nothing to do with the that's just politics and the poor judgement of Corbyn thinking Boris was in any way a spineless cowardly  snake, who feared being exposed as the serial liar he is.

 

Put it this way anyone fearing a cross examination is at it and hiding like the faceless cowards they are. 

 

 

There are working class people who will gladly vote this man in as Prime Minister.