ri Alban Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Boris blaming Labour for the terrorist attack. You've been in power for 10 years ya scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Labour brought in the act - FACT Boris playing a blinder not allowing Marrs bumbling to deter him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Marr’s a ****ing walkover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, manaliveits105 said: Labour brought in the act - FACT Boris playing a blinder not allowing Marrs bumbling to deter him Who’s been in power to change those laws for the last 9 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Boris being exposed by wee Andy. Fat Andy won't be seeing him. Edited December 1, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Boris blaming Labour for the terrorist attack. You've been in power for 10 years ya scumbag. I agree with you about him being a scumbag, but much of what we now reap was sown in the New Labour years, through a foreign policy that thought nothing of destabilising the world out of greed. That’s not to say that any other party would have stood up to the Bush administration or put lives before money and oil, but much of the damage was done done on Labour’s watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: I agree with you about him being a scumbag, but much of what we now reap was sown in the New Labour years, through a foreign policy that thought nothing of destabilising the world out of greed. That’s not to say that any other party would have stood up to the Bush administration or put lives before money and oil, but much of the damage was done done on Labour’s watch. I do agree, a bit. But I don't remember the Tories standing up to W's Da. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Labour brought in the act - FACT Boris playing a blinder not allowing Marrs bumbling to deter him The guy asked for help while in prison but was refused. Conservative government cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I do agree, a bit. But I don't remember the Tories standing up to W's Da. No. Indeed. Not when there was the prospect of contracts on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I agree with you about him being a scumbag, but much of what we now reap was sown in the New Labour years, through a foreign policy that thought nothing of destabilising the world out of greed. That’s not to say that any other party would have stood up to the Bush administration or put lives before money and oil, but much of the damage was done done on Labour’s watch. Its true that invading Iraq made England a target for terrorist attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Still unclear whether Boris Johnson will be interviewed by Andrew Neill. Initially said being interviewed by Marr was enough. Edited December 1, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 He just called Marr an agent. Proof that he’s got the BBC working for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Its true that invading Iraq made England a target for terrorist attacks. Yes. As many experts warned at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 "It's Labour's fault" "It's Labour's fault" "It's Labour's fault" But Boris, you've been in power for 9 years. Certain policies may well indeed have been made by the last Labour government. But if you've been unable to change them in the last 9 years then you were either happy with those policies or incompetent in not changing them. Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 What Andrew Marr tried to point out is the scale of the cuts. Boris as others have pointed out is offering something new. But reversing cuts for example in probation or prison services isn't what any party is particularly offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: Who’s been in power to change those laws for the last 9 years? True but it was Lord Justice Leveson and two colleagues sitting in the Court of Appeal that quashed the "indeterminate" sentence which he was given to protect the public. This would mean he had to convince the parole board he was not threat. Changing it to a determinate sentence meant he was eligible for early release on licence in December of last year. It is very likely he would still be in prison now had the original sentence not been quashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 19:25, Gashauskis9 said: Who’s this nippy wee posh schoolboy on the stage for the Tories tonight? He’s hopeless. He's back on tonight for the ITV leaders debate 7pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Lord Justice Leveson and two colleagues sitting in the Court of Appeal that quashed the "indeterminate" sentence which he was given to protect the public. An inconvenient truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: He's back on tonight for the ITV leaders debate 7pm He looks like a prefect who was abducted by robots and hasn’t been home since 6th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: An inconvenient truth. Inconvenient for whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toggie88 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Its true that invading Iraq made England a target for terrorist attacks. That was the case in the 00's (certainly the motivation for the 7/7 and Madrid bombings) but the most recent wave of terror activity wasn't based on who invaded Iraq or not. France didn't take part in Iraq and as a result, wasn't a victim of an attack until much later. ISIS didn't/don't discriminate in the same way Al Qaeda did, West is the West to them. Of course, there's the question about without our backing for Iraq, the invasion might never have went ahead. ISIS may never have happened etc, but that's a serious push etc now. And if we're going down that road, I'm fairly certain Corbyn was one of the few Labour MPs publicly criticising his own government for their position. Johnson simply has no shame and is actively trying to replicate the Trump/Bannon playbook of contesting everything and anything. You never apologise, never admit blame and never backdown. Edited December 1, 2019 by Toggie88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Toggie88 said: Johnson simply has no shame and is actively trying to replicate the Trump/Bannon playbook of contesting everything and anything. You never apologise, never admit blame and never backdown. Another part of that Trump playbook is refusing to put yourself to public scrutiny. Johnson hiding from the C4 debate and Andrew Neil should be a key issue for the MSM. It's dangerous that it is not seen as an issue. In the USA Trump holds press "conferences" to the background noise of the Marine One helicopter blades and the current White House press officer has never held a single press briefing. In the UK Johnson's chief puppet is Dominic Cummings but he is never subject to cross examination in spite of the fact his blog is reported unquestiongly on BBC news programmes. Edited December 1, 2019 by RobboM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Jo Swinson again started tonight's ITV debate by attacking Boris Johnson. After spending all her time as leader attacking Jeremy Corbyn, she has finally learnt the electoral reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Tories are obsessed with this fear of Labour propped up by the SNP. Bit rich coming from a minority government propped up by the DUP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Jo Swinson again started tonight's ITV debate by attacking Boris Johnson. After spending all her time as leader attacking Jeremy Corbyn, she has finally learnt the electoral reality. She’s defo had a makeover as well. Looks like she’s had her teeth fixed and got rid of the tacky earrings at last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Jo Swinson actually asked a good question there. (What deal can Labour obtain that is better than staying in the EU) Edited December 1, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Adam Price and Sturgeon coming across really well again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Jo Swinson actually asked a good question there. (What deal can Labour obtain that is better than staying in the EU) I wonder if Labour would have been better just promising a referendum on Johnson's withdrawal agreement. The future deal is up for grabs anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Facebook have removed the Conservatives election adverts that have BBC news presenters talking about Brexit being delayed. Accepting the BBC complaint. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-01/facebook-removes-seven-u-k-tory-party-ads-after-bbc-complaint https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50624086 Edited December 1, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, RobboM said: I wonder if Labour would have been better just promising a referendum on Johnson's withdrawal agreement. The future deal is up for grabs anyway He should have answered the question by saying Labour's plan for Customs Union and single market access will be as close as possible to EU membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: He should have answered the question by saying Labour's plan for Customs Union and single market access will be as close as possible to EU membership. CCan't see that flying at all. Accept all the rules without any voice in making them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RobboM said: Can't see that flying at all. Accept all the rules without any voice in making them. 1. Boris's deal (actually Teresa May's) is effectively a Customs Union anyway 2. EU is ready to approve Labour's deal quickly That is why Nigel Farage is correct in most of what he says. To get the true Brexit you pretty much need No Deal. (Mainly down to EU strong positions i.e. being in control of the whole process) Edited December 1, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, RobboM said: I wonder if Labour would have been better just promising a referendum on Johnson's withdrawal agreement. The future deal is up for grabs anyway If Jeremy wanted to remain that’s what he’d have done. Because in his heart of hearts he wants to leave, he wants to shape his own deal to make this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: 1. Boris's deal (actually Teresa May's) is effectively a Customs Union anyway 2. EU is ready to approve Labour's deal quickly That is why Nigel Farage is correct in most of what he says. To get the true Brexit you pretty much need No Deal. (Mainly down to EU strong positions i.e. being in control of the whole process) No Deal is simply not viable. At some point in the very immediate future we'd have to find some kind of deal with the EU and that means accepting their standards and regulations on imported products. Only complete morons think we can exist on WTO rules alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Sturgeon is more clueless than McPhee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Yaaaasss, Price just said pussy before the watershed. Like this guy 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: 1. Boris's deal (actually Teresa May's) is effectively a Customs Union anyway 2. EU is ready to approve Labour's deal quickly That is why Nigel Farage is correct in most of what he says. To get the true Brexit you pretty much need No Deal. (Mainly down to EU strong positions i.e. being in control of the whole process) I don't think any Brexit deals are easy to sell or better than the terms we already have BUT I do think that had Labour said it would be Johnson's deal on the table for a referendum then that puts pressure back on the Tories to argue against their deal being endorsed by the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, gjcc said: Demonising and ridiculing the opposition. Puerile. Edited December 1, 2019 by redjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Jesus, is that what a 20 year old lassie from Airdrie looks like? Some paper round that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Jesus, is that what a 20 year old lassie from Airdrie looks like? Some paper round that. And she asked about people working together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Sturgeon is a perfect example of empty vessels make most noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, manaliveits105 said: Sturgeon is a perfect example of empty vessels make most noise And you are the perfect example of a poster who continually comes out with negative sound-bites that add nothing constructive to the debate (although I do admit that this post does exactly that too :)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Seriously that labour guy was utterly hopeless in that debate. The country is a mess, the political system under greater scrutiny than ever before and every single answer was what the torries haven’t done rather than what a Labour would do. When are these politicians going to get their heads out their own arseholes and understand we’re sick of hearing the same tired pish. The indies and greens come out of that debate with real credibility, willing to talk cross party, looking to the future and solving the real issues people are concerned with. Labour have made a total arse of this election. the torries and Farage = Brexit Lib Dems = another vote/remain SNP and Pliad = Independence / remain Greens = climate change and remain Labour = vote us and we’ll tell you later! That’s winning no votes and no confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Sturgeon is a perfect example of empty vessels make most noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just for fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Sturgeon is a perfect example of empty vessels make most noise I'm presuming our First Minister is doing well as people like yourself keep whingeing on about her? If she was a nomark like Swinson, bores like you would keep your mouth shut. Ya....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 11 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Sturgeon is a perfect example of empty vessels make most noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Atest Polls and media coverage suggesting the Tories.lead is dropping. Combination of popularity In Labours manifesto and comments made by London bombing victims relative about Boris statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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