Ray Gin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Conservative candidate suspended over Islamophobia allegation News just coming in to us... A Conservative election candidate has been suspended following an allegation of Islamophobic language. Flora Scarabello, candidate for Glasgow Central, will have support for her campaign withdrawn by the party, said the Scottish Conservatives. It comes after a complaint to the party’s central office about the alleged use of anti-Muslim language. Her name will still appear on the ballot paper as the deadline for removing her as a candidate has passed. A spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives said: “We take allegations like this extremely seriously. “There is no place in the Scottish Conservatives for anti-Muslim language, or any other form of racial or religious discrimination. “As such, we have immediately suspended the candidate and the complaint will be thoroughly investigated.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: BBC have confirmed the interview is not agreed yet. They are getting hammered online including how their coverage is now biased. Stating the obvious. If Boris doesn't do the interview, it'll damage his campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Boris's approach has been to say and do the minimum. He has another debate next week with Corbyn. Not sure the format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Stating the obvious. If Boris doesn't do the interview, it'll damage his campaign. It won't. He's like Trump. It doesn't matter how much of a **** he is, his followers will still vote for him. He can literally say or do anything, and mugs up and down the country will still vote Tory because they're convinced immigration is a massive problem and we need Brexit at any costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 If Boris pulls out, expect Swineson to do likewise. Agent Andy will have done his job in attacking the SNP and Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: The man is a colossal shitebag. He is and a serial liar, like the NHS is not up for sale.. This is nothing short of a national scandal and heads need to roll .... And I include a complicit MSM in this too!! Never trust a Tory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: https://www.channel4.com/press/news/brexiteer-jacob-rees-mogg-estimated-have-earnt-ps7m-investments-referendum-according Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg is estimated to have earnt £7m from investments since the referendum according to investigation by Channel 4 Dispatches An analysis of the House of Commons register of interests reveals MPs have been in high demand on the speaker’s circuit. Since the referendum 12 MPs have between them made more than £1m on top of their MPs salary from paid speeches. Dispatches also reveals the amounts some politicians are charging to speak on Brexit. According to one leading agency: Nick Clegg charges £60,000-£80,000 plus flights from California where he currently works for Facebook Boris Johnson charges £100,000. Former Foreign Secretary William Hague was offered at £40-50k Former Government minister Jo Johnson was the cheapest at £15,000 Conservative Remainer Kenneth Clarke earned almost £14,000 for 2 recent speeches on Brexit Former Brexit secretary David Davis was recently paid £19,000 for a speech to the City After he left Downing Street, David Cameron he earnt £120,000 for a speech to Wall Street that talked about Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Conservative candidate suspended over Islamophobia allegation News just coming in to us... A Conservative election candidate has been suspended following an allegation of Islamophobic language. Flora Scarabello, candidate for Glasgow Central, will have support for her campaign withdrawn by the party, said the Scottish Conservatives. It comes after a complaint to the party’s central office about the alleged use of anti-Muslim language. Her name will still appear on the ballot paper as the deadline for removing her as a candidate has passed. A spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives said: “We take allegations like this extremely seriously. “There is no place in the Scottish Conservatives for anti-Muslim language, or any other form of racial or religious discrimination. “As such, we have immediately suspended the candidate and the complaint will be thoroughly investigated.” In fairness to the BBC they are giving it the exact same weight they gave the Tory Rabbi's party political broadcast yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobboM said: In fairness to the BBC they are giving it the exact same weight they gave the Tory Rabbi's party political broadcast yesterday It's on the Scottish news section, which is exactly where you'd expect it to be, not in the national news section. Many if not most of the other candidates who have also been removed, their story doesn't appear on the national headlines, but on their regional page, exactly the same as this one does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: It's on the Scottish news section, which is exactly where you'd expect it to be, not in the national news section. Many if not most of the other candidates who have also been removed, their story doesn't appear on the national headlines, but on their regional page, exactly the same as this one does. Fair enough J-J 👍 I had in mind a news story yesterday about a Labour candidate having to apologise for using the word "gassed" but it was The Independent not the BBC. NB the word "gassed" was nothing whatsoever to do with the Holocaust but in an (urban dictionary) definiton of "happy or bubbly" but she still had to apologise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: He is and a serial liar, like the NHS is not up for sale.. This is nothing short of a national scandal and heads need to roll .... And I include a complicit MSM in this too!! Never trust a Tory... The oh so secret documents have been on Reddit since October. “Except the papers were not so secret, as it was revealed after the press conference that the full documents had been uploaded to online sharing platform Reddit at the end of October.” Add in it was under Mays government these preliminary negotiations were held and Johnson whether you believe him or not has said more than once the NHS is not for sale to the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobboM said: Fair enough J-J 👍 I had in mind a news story yesterday about a Labour candidate having to apologise for using the word "gassed" but it was The Independent not the BBC. NB the word "gassed" was nothing whatsoever to do with the Holocaust but in an (urban dictionary) definiton of "happy or bubbly" but she still had to apologise I know where your coming from with regards to the Corbyn anti-semite story, however whatever Jeremy Corbyn say's or does is of national interest and will be reported on national front pages be that in print or online, simply because of who he is and the position he holds, whereas there isn't (I'd imagine) many people in lets say Surrey who gives a flying feck what a candidate that they've never ever heard of from Glasgow say's. I raised the issue for no other reason than adding some perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: The oh so secret documents have been on Reddit since October. “Except the papers were not so secret, as it was revealed after the press conference that the full documents had been uploaded to online sharing platform Reddit at the end of October.” Add in it was under Mays government these preliminary negotiations were held and Johnson whether you believe him or not has said more than once the NHS is not for sale to the USA. NHS in England is already for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: The oh so secret documents have been on Reddit since October. “Except the papers were not so secret, as it was revealed after the press conference that the full documents had been uploaded to online sharing platform Reddit at the end of October.” Add in it was under Mays government these preliminary negotiations were held and Johnson whether you believe him or not has said more than once the NHS is not for sale to the USA. Boris Johnson was a key member of May's government, he was in the cabinet 2016-2018, indeed he was Foreign Secretary at the time these preliminary negotiations with a Foreign country were getting underway. Is it a "die in a ditch" commitment not to negotiate access to the NHS as part of a USA trade deal or is it a real commitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 'Searching for some material on Pete Wishart, I came across this in the archive. My belated thanks to the anonymous mole who sent it to me all those years ago.' Stellar line up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: The oh so secret documents have been on Reddit since October. “Except the papers were not so secret, as it was revealed after the press conference that the full documents had been uploaded to online sharing platform Reddit at the end of October.” Add in it was under Mays government these preliminary negotiations were held and Johnson whether you believe him or not has said more than once the NHS is not for sale to the USA. Looks like Labour's 'trump' card failed miserably. - Out of date documents - Under a different Government - Confirm drugs would actually be cheaper for the NHS - Leaked a highly sensitive 100+ page document to journalists. And he wants us to trust him with national security? Obviously after yesterdays catastrophe something needed to be done... but this... Not enough face palms in the world. Edited November 27, 2019 by Trapper John McIntyre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 NHS pricing and contracts including for drugs are complicated. Things are in place to keep prices down. Things that other countries negotiating trade deals see as anti-competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brighton Jambo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) If Boris does dodge the interview it’s laugh out loud outrageous but good politics. Sturgeon and Corbyn got hammered and faired badly with bad headlines and he won’t. Arguing that he can’t schedule it is on a different level to TM refusing to debate. Something he, I am sure, will point to to say he isn’t hiding. Those who already hate him and would never have voted for him will scream bloody murder but most other people won’t care that much given he is doing another debate next week. Edited November 27, 2019 by Brighton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: If Boris does dodge the interview it’s laugh out loud outrageous but good politics. Sturgeon and Corbyn got hammered and faired badly with bad headlines and he won’t. Arguing that he can’t schedule it is on a different level to TM refusing to debate. Something he, I am sure, will point to to say he isn’t hiding. Those who already hate him and would never have voted for him will scream bloody murder but most other people won’t care that much given he is doing another debate next week. It would be a huge test of BBC impartiality. If the BBC has anything about them at all they should empty chair him for the full 30 minutes and THAT becomes the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, RobboM said: It would be a huge test of BBC impartiality. If the BBC has anything about them at all they should empty chair him for the full 30 minutes and THAT becomes the story Hard to do that if his official line is they are in discussion to work out a date. That would breach their impartially rules if they could be accused of jumping the gun. If he outright said no then fair enough but he would never do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: NHS pricing and contracts including for drugs are complicated. Things are in place to keep prices down. Things that other countries negotiating trade deals see as anti-competitive. Robbie Turmer Royal Pharmaceutical Society just on BBC News 24 explaining basics of how it works here. Edited November 27, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: NHS in England is already for sale. Some parts sold to Richard Branson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: Hard to do that if his official line is they are in discussion to work out a date. That would breach their impartially rules if they could be accused of jumping the gun. If he outright said no then fair enough but he would never do that! Guaranteed that any excuse is bullshit. Call it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Watching the BBC News just now. If Boris Johnson DOES chicken out of an Andrew Neil interview we can fully expect Laura Kuennsberg to deputise for him 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, RobboM said: Watching the BBC News just now. If Boris Johnson DOES chicken out of an Andrew Neil interview we can fully expect Laura Kuennsberg to deputise for him 😂 Back door BoJo... that coward is the leader of Britain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Robbie Turmer Royal Pharmaceutical Society just on BBC News 24 explaining basics of how it works here. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/us-most-expensive-drugs-uk-prices/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Class of 75 said: Still get my vote and I'm Working Class. If you are a Unionist and true Working Class, not the type that Steptoe appeals to, there is no one else to vote for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, JamesM48 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 “How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political power to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century.” Aneurin Bevan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Cummings resigns as a SPAD This now lets him work behind the scenes with zero accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 So where’s Boris then? Thought he was on at 7.30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cade said: Cummings resigns as a SPAD This now lets him work behind the scenes with zero accountability. Where is that reported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: So where’s Boris then? Thought he was on at 7.30? Tories have put forward an episode of "Fake Britain" instead. Presumably BBC don't have a series called "Lying *****" Oh the irony 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, RobboM said: Tories have put forward an episode of "Fake Britain" instead. Presumably BBC don't have a series called "Lying *****" Oh the irony 😂 The BBC keeping quiet on the whole thing. Nothing to see apparently. Who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: So where’s Boris then? Thought he was on at 7.30? This Friday 11pm with Laura Kuenssberg BBC2 So not with Andrew Neil. Edited November 27, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Friday 11pm with Laura Kuenssberg BBC2 Ah, so he gets to choose his best pal to interview him but everybody else has to get slaughtered by Neill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Boris Johnson and the Andrew Neil interview. 😂 "That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot." Brave Sir Robin ran away. ("No!") Bravely ran away away. ("I didn't!") When danger reared it's ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. ("I never!") Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about And gallantly he chickened out. ("You're lying!") Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 BBC = Blatantly Backing Conservatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanmac Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I drive a community bus in Argyll and a wee Wummin came one the other day and said that she’ll not be voting for the Green Party , because they maybe great with trying to safe the planet and stuff but they’ve no respect for the minutes silence at the football and there flag of Mussolini was a step to far . Lol never had the heart to tell she may have mixed her Greens up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: This Friday 11pm with Laura Kuenssberg BBC2 So not with Andrew Neil. 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: Ah, so he gets to choose his best pal to interview him but everybody else has to get slaughtered by Neill? That Friday Laura interview isn't actually happening. But it will be something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: I think you are getting a wee bit messed up there pal. You need to understand politics better. By the way I don't earn anywhere near £80k. Just for info the Labour Party is not working class and is controlled by an Islington elite. Neither do I think Hitler was a socialist. Words fail me. Edited November 27, 2019 by Class of 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: Ah, so he gets to choose his best pal to interview him but everybody else has to get slaughtered by Neill? Luck of the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Cade said: Cummings resigns as a SPAD This now lets him work behind the scenes with zero accountability. Misunderstanding. All the Special Advisers resigned when the election was called.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) New Yougov/Times poll is putting the Tories winning with a 68 seat majority with a projected total of 359 seats and everybody else with a total of 291. https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/ Edited November 27, 2019 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Tories and Coward BoJo are odds on to win. Labour slump. http://news.sky.com/story/general-election-conservatives-set-for-majority-with-359-seats-poll-11871956 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Cade said: Cummings resigns as a SPAD This now lets him work behind the scenes with zero accountability. Have you read his blog posting? The anti immigration and anti-semitic dog whistling used within it are quite something. If Seamus Milne (who I'm not a fan of) wrote something similar there would be uproar in the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: The oh so secret documents have been on Reddit since October. “Except the papers were not so secret, as it was revealed after the press conference that the full documents had been uploaded to online sharing platform Reddit at the end of October.” Add in it was under Mays government these preliminary negotiations were held and Johnson whether you believe him or not has said more than once the NHS is not for sale to the USA. It's the rules around how the NHS is run and how the UK organises its health market that are in question. That in turn will make it more costly for the NHS to provide health care not easier. The impact of opening up the NHS drug commissioning boards and patent protections to big US pharma will only result in the increased cost of medicines. That increased cost will make prescriptions more expensive and increase the cost on the NHS of providing the high standard of care it does. Starved of funding and with government struggling to pay for it, the bright idea to break it up will emerge. Worrying times ahead. Johnson's cabinet is made up of folk who have toyed with all this for years. Liberalising the NHS and shrinking the state. So was May's cabinet. To think this isn't all on the table is naive. Edited November 27, 2019 by JamboX2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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