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7 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

There's not a snowball in hells chance of us getting relegated. Thanks for your input though, very well thought out.

Based on what? Are we good in training?

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9 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Think the season before. 

 

I missed the rugby for the football last time. Italy. 

I remember because we got beat and Scotland won. 

 

I think it's 3-1 in the footballs favour. 

 

Even missed the time we beat Australia, we drew with Dundee at home. 😭

 

I go with family, hope that is OK by you. 

My St also went to my mates lass, so no loss of support or money 👍

Doing my bit to get the next generation along. 

 

Nice of you to keep tabs tho, not creepy at all. 

 

 

:laugh2: It just popped into my head when you were bashing on about being a better supporter.

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9 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

Careful, I think your tinfoil hat is slipping.

Can't be bothered arguing with you anymore which will disappoint you no doubt. 

 

That is clearly why you are on here. 

 

Did you not see the post from the mods. 

 

Have respect for what they are asking. 

 

I am not getting a ban because of you

pal. 

 

Over and out from me. 

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23 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

I remember you went to the rugby instead of a Hearts game some time last season. 😂

:jjyay:

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Just now, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

:laugh2: It just popped into my head when you were bashing on about being a better supporter.

 

Better supporter? 

Have I ever said I'm better supporter than anyone else. 

Tbh, I don't go to away games so would never claim that. 

There are far better supporters than me. 

 

Also, I can't miss a game to spend time with my brothers? 

I won't go into it anymore, but getting so personal is a bit off tbh. 

 

Is That is comparible to not going to games because I'm in the huff?

 

 

Great stuff. 

Also, not weird in anyway. Honestly. 

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2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Can't be bothered arguing with you anymore which will disappoint you no doubt. 

 

That is clearly why you are on here. 

 

Did you not see the post from the mods. 

 

Have respect for what they are asking. 

 

I am not getting a ban because of you

pal. 

 

Over and out from me. 

 

"Eventually got it, you are CL 😀

 

How's Souttar doing? 

 

Oops silly question. 

 

You still swerving round these corners."

 

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I just couldn't think of any reason why you would think a) I am Craig Levein and b) why you would think Craig Levein would post on JKB. 

 

There seemed to be no logical conclusion to your post so I'm not sure how you would expect me to answer it. Is that clear enough ?

 

Bye!

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Better supporter? 

Have I ever said I'm better supporter than anyone else. 

Tbh, I don't go to away games so would never claim that. 

There are far better supporters than me. 

 

Also, I can't miss a game to spend time with my brothers? 

I won't go into it anymore, but getting so personal is a bit off tbh. 

 

Is That is comparible to not going to games because I'm in the huff?

 

 

Great stuff. 

Also, not weird in anyway. Honestly. 

Just respect that there's people who care more about results than you do and wont blindly support any charlatan that works for the club. We're in a strange situation where the board aren't running the football club properly. The people protesting are ultimately doing it for the better of the club regardless if you can wrap your little head around it. :)

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10 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

"Eventually got it, you are CL 😀

 

How's Souttar doing? 

 

Oops silly question. 

 

You still swerving round these corners."

 

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I just couldn't think of any reason why you would think a) I am Craig Levein and b) why you would think Craig Levein would post on JKB. 

 

There seemed to be no logical conclusion to your post so I'm not sure how you would expect me to answer it. Is that clear enough ?

 

Bye!

 

 

Obviously joking about you being C L. 🙄🙄

 

Anyway will put you on ignore because you won't stop will you. 

 

You obviously are not going to do what the mods have requested. 😏

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I don't think anyone wants Craig Levein to remain as manager for the long term (not even CL or AB). Some want him out yesterday, some want him to remain until we have a chance for injuries to clear up and steady the ship in preparation for the right man to take the reigns.

 

I've made my personal position quite clear, I don't see any point in rushing into appointing a new manager and replacing like with like or like with worse. And I don't see any benefit in fans rocking the boat which will only serve to put any respectable suitors off coming to the club.  I believe a club of Hearts stature deserves better than that.

 

I don't see any manager in Scotland that I would like to see take over Hearts.

 

Is there a suitable candidate within Scotland?

 

Do we need to scour the continent?

 

Do we promote from within?

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7 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

Just respect that there's people who care more about results than you do and wont blindly support any charlatan that works for the club. We're in a strange situation where the board aren't running the football club properly. The people protesting are ultimately doing it for the better of the club regardless if you can wrap your little head around it. :)

 

 

My head is massive. 

Orange on a lollipop stick. 

 

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31 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

Did Cathro have the better part of his first team out injured for long spells?

Did Craig Levein hire Cathro?

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4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

My head is massive. 

Orange on a lollipop stick. 

 

 

😂

 

Calls for respect and finishes by throwing abuse at you? Odd behaviour.

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3 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

😂

 

Calls for respect and finishes by throwing abuse at you? Odd behaviour.

 

 

Standard patter on here. 

 

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10 hours ago, Spoleto said:

 

Just as well Levein isn't going anywhere.

 

Not for the time being anyway.

Probably.

 

Safest job in world football.

 

Heart of Midlothian F.C

Official charity for the benefit of Craig Levein

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9 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

Did Craig Levein hire Cathro?

 

He also hired Robbie. 

 

1 good/ 1 bad. 

 

I bet you in your different guise celebrated Robbie leaving and the arrival of Cathro...... Be honest now. 

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1 minute ago, Spoleto said:

I don't think anyone wants Craig Levein to remain as manager for the long term (not even CL or AB). Some want him out yesterday, some want him to remain until we have a chance for injuries to clear up and steady the ship in preparation for the right man to take the reigns.

 

I've made my personal position quite clear, I don't see any point in rushing into appointing a new manager and replacing like with like or like with worse. And I don't see any benefit in fans rocking the boat which will only serve to put any respectable suitors off coming to the club.  I believe a club of Hearts stature deserves better than that.

 

I don't see any manager in Scotland that I would like to see take over Hearts.

 

Is there a suitable candidate within Scotland?

 

Do we need to scour the continent?

 

Do we promote from within?

Any chance we could appoint better?

 

literally hundreds of managers out there would love to manage Hearts, who cares where they are from? You seem intent on discussing only people based in Scotland.

 

As for steadying the ship and having him remain until injuries clear you do realise that some of these guys might break down further and be out until March next year? Meanwhile we languish in what 9th, 10th but hey we’ll be ok when every single player is back from injury. 

 

Im asking you a serious question here and genuinely hope you answer it. If Hearts are bottom of the table within the next 4 weeks do you think we should continue with Levein? (Please don’t respond with we won’t be bottom just humour me and answer the question) 

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39 minutes ago, Mort said:

Based on what? Are we good in training?


Yep, according to our esteemed head coach, and DoF, we are fantastic in training. Just wait till it clicks in a game....and wait....

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2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

He also hired Robbie. 

 

1 good/ 1 bad. 

 

I bet you in your different guise celebrated Robbie leaving and the arrival of Cathro...... Be honest now. 

Who the fek cares about Neilson?

 

Stop always muddling up the current crisis.

 

Levein isn't working and Hearts are not his personal fekin charity.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Allowayjambo1874 said:

Any chance we could appoint better?

 

literally hundreds of managers out there would love to manage Hearts, who cares where they are from? You seem intent on discussing only people based in Scotland.

 

As for steadying the ship and having him remain until injuries clear you do realise that some of these guys might break down further and be out until March next year? Meanwhile we languish in what 9th, 10th but hey we’ll be ok when every single player is back from injury. 

 

Im asking you a serious question here and genuinely hope you answer it. If Hearts are bottom of the table within the next 4 weeks do you think we should continue with Levein? (Please don’t respond with we won’t be bottom just humour me and answer the question) 

 

Please read my post again.

 

I actually say we shouldn't be considering managers in Scotland.

 

As for your question. No is the simple answer. I would give him half a season.

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Just now, HMFC 86 said:


Yep, according to our esteemed head coach, and DoF, we are fantastic in training. Just wait till it clicks in a game....and wait....

Aye that good every body can just slope about on a Saturday .

But but it's the fans fault .

 

That should then point to away wins.

Nope .

 

Charity case has lost the dressing room.

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3 minutes ago, jake said:

Who the fek cares about Neilson?

 

Stop always muddling up the current crisis.

 

Levein isn't working and Hearts are not his personal fekin charity.

 

 

 

"Stop always mudding up the current crisis" you say. 

 

So why are you banging on about Cathro?

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Just now, Spoleto said:

 

Please read my post again.

 

I actually say we shouldn't be considering managers in Scotland.

 

As for your question. No is the simple answer. I would give him half a season.

How very charitable of you.

Let's just employ useless fekers all the time shall we.

 

Any other charity cases you would like the club to throw money at?

Especially ones who throw money away on players like Charity Levein does.

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1 minute ago, Spoleto said:

 

"Stop always mudding up the current crisis" you say. 

 

So why are you banging on about Cathro?

I have not mentioned Cathro.

 

Dont apologise as you must be worn out apologising for charity Levein

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3 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

Please read my post again.

 

I actually say we shouldn't be considering managers in Scotland.

 

As for your question. No is the simple answer. I would give him half a season.

 

Only a Hibs fan would want him here any longer... and I suspect that’s exactly what you are.

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Just now, jake said:

I have not mentioned Cathro.

 

Dont apologise as you must be worn out apologising for charity Levein

You are getting reeled in, this is what he does, honestly step away from the conversation mate as it’s pointless 

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1 minute ago, leginten said:

Do the trolls work shifts? 

 

Or are they just here all day, every day?

Just seems like it:unsure2:

Wonderful fulfilling life's work

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4 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

 

Only a Hibs fan would want him here any longer... and I suspect that’s exactly what you are.

 

Boring and predictable.

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5 minutes ago, jake said:

I have not mentioned Cathro.

 

Dont apologise as you must be worn out apologising for charity Levein

 

Apologies, it was Forever Hearts who was going on about Cathro.

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Just now, Spoleto said:

 

Boring and predictable.

 

Not as boring and predictable as you. Spoleto user name is clever but reading your posts I know exactly what you are. Not sure how you’ve got the energy to spend your life trolling a Hearts board but 10/10 for dedication.

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20 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

He also hired Robbie. 

 

1 good/ 1 bad. 

 

I bet you in your different guise celebrated Robbie leaving and the arrival of Cathro...... Be honest now. 

It doesn't matter what I thought about appointing Cathro. Levein's well paid job was to find a manager to take us forward and he appointed Ian Cathro who turned out to be an abject failure and showed up a horrendous lack of judgement from Levein. 

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23 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

He also hired Robbie. 

 

1 good/ 1 bad. 

 

I bet you in your different guise celebrated Robbie leaving and the arrival of Cathro...... Be honest now. 

DP.

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1 minute ago, Spoleto said:

This thread is supposed to be about Levein.

 

Anybody want to talk about Levein and managerial options?

Yes.

Sack Levein and watch multiple applications for the job come forth.

 

The Hearts managerial post is a top class job.

We wont be shy of much better options than the current shambles.

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2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

It doesn't matter what I thought about appointing Cathro. Levein's well paid job was to find a manager to take us forward and he appointed Ian Cathro who turned out to be an abject failure and showed up a horrendous lack of judgement from Levein. 

And add some brutal signings who could forget Grzelak.

I mean that in itself was a sacking offence.

 

Tbf me and the boys had a right good laugh watching him on a midweek game against Dundee.

😄

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19 minutes ago, jake said:

Who the fek cares about Neilson?

 

Stop always muddling up the current crisis.

 

Levein isn't working and Hearts are not his personal fekin charity.

 

 

 

 

 

Ffs, join the dots before steaming in. 

 

In that case, who cared about Cathro? 

 

Poster brings up the appointment of Cathro... 

Poster responds with Robbie as balance. 

 

Another poster (you) comes in saying who cares and I think is trying to  say to me to stay current? 

 

All the time Missing the point that it was another poster who originally muddled up the current situation with past events by bringing up Cathro. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

It doesn't matter what I thought about appointing Cathro. Levein's well paid job was to find a manager to take us forward and he appointed Ian Cathro who turned out to be an abject failure and showed up a horrendous lack of judgement from Levein. 

 

 

So you wanted Robbie gone and celebrated Cathro. 

 

 

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Forever Hearts
1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

So you wanted Robbie gone and celebrated Cathro. 

 

 

Yes and no. 

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15 hours ago, Allowayjambo1874 said:

 4 hours ago, Spoleto said:

 

I think we've been inconsistent for sure, but again that has to come down to injuries. Look back to the Killie game - we had the possession, we created enough chances to win it and we get a sucker punch from a header that should never have been allowed to happen.

 

Levein isn't tinkering - he's hardly ever been able to field the same team two games in a row. 

 

We have had games were we've played some decent stuff. I've lost count of the number of times we've lost or drawn games because of ridiculous individual errors - that's not down to Levein. 

 

Of course I'm not happy, nobody is, but I'm not going to wet my pants over it. If we have a few of our key players back and performances and results don't improve then that is the time to take action, not now. 

 

Apart from anything else what decent manager are we likely to attract at the moment? It would be a poisoned chalice. Do we dump CL only to replace him with like, or worse?

 

My hope is that CL and AB are working in the background to find a quality manager to come in at the end of the season - that's what I'd be working on if I was them and I'm confident that is what they are doing.

 

Does anyone on here actually disagree with this well balanced post? This is not the post of a troll. 

 

This is the post post of a Hearts fan who is pissed off (like we all are) with the cards we have been dealt but is trying to see the positives. It’s neither pro or anti Craig Levein. It’s matter of fact.

 

I take note that only 1 person (I think) took the time to quote it and add concede its quality.

 

 

I disagree with the post totally.

 

 We were not hit by a sucker punch v Kilmarnock they had the better possession, better chances and were better organised and set up far better than Hearts. Anyone who was at the game would find it difficult to disagree with that. The chances we created fell to defenders, not thorough particularly clever play but more through desperate crosses on a hit and hope basis. Throughout the match Killie constantly created better chances and looked more likely to score a second than we did to score our first. Seriously can anyone at the game deny it?

 

Tinkering: CL played no forwards and left 2 on the bench on Saturday so what is that about, both were fit and he fannyed about with the formation trying to be clever. He has history since the start. You want to discuss players going from not even in the squad one week to on the team sheet the next and vice versa? Ryan Edwards, Danny Amakwaa, Brandon, even Hickey, all came from nowhere and not even a hint of first team until they played. Nothing to do with injuries.

 

Agreed, individual errors have cost us. Who picks the team? Clare error v Motherwell, two pens v Aberdeen, CL talked about working on the defence, has it worked? Who does the buck stop with?

 

Poster saying phrases like wetting pants is not exactly the most intelligent phrase to use to in a debate is it, in fact I would argue it's provocative and looking for a reaction (i.e. trolling)? But others are the ones who are not debating eloquently? 

 

If Hearts sacked CL and advertised for a new manager I think the standard of applicants would surprise people, we will never know until it happens but we can't just say we shouldn't try, should we?

 

The final point about CL/AB looking for a new manager is total conjecture with absolutely no substance behind it. In fact you could just say it's made up. Given the AB statement recently I would be flabbergasted if Hearts were on the lookout for another manager.

 

 

Any good????

 

Excellent post.  The idea that CL will allow AB to "look for a new manager " while he is still in the post is laughable.  The guy has weaseled his way into the fabric of our club, exactly as he tried to do at Dundee Utd, and made himself unsackable.  Protests against Levein after games will prove fruitless, as they did with Robinson initiallly, another arrogant, stubborn individual who claims to have the club's best interests at heart. As with the Save Our Hearts campaign, other forms of protests have to take place. Protests before the game, walkouts, boycotts will, of course, be used by Levein as excuses for his players "losing confidence ", " not being in a good place" etc but the price of inaction will be far higher with more months of mediocrity with him at the helm. 

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Just now, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

 

Ffs, join the dots before steaming in. 

 

In that case, who cared about Cathro? 

 

Poster brings up the appointment of Cathro... 

Poster responds with Robbie as balance. 

 

Another poster (you) comes in saying who cares and I think is trying to  say to me to stay current? 

 

All the time Missing the point that it was another poster who originally muddled up the current situation with past events by bringing up Cathro. 

 

 

 

Ok fair enough.

 

Can you stop going off on silly point scoring on silly points then.

Let's just stick to charity Levein.

Since October the 7th 2018.

Played 39 lost 22.

 

Are you happy ?

Do you think that record should keep him in a job?

Do you think its negligence that he is still in a job?

Do you think its justified to be a bit pissed of that the whole of Scottish football thinks Levein has the safest job In football?

 

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1 minute ago, jake said:

Ok fair enough.

 

Can you stop going off on silly point scoring on silly points then.

Let's just stick to charity Levein.

Since October the 7th 2018.

Played 39 lost 22.

 

Are you happy ?

Do you think that record should keep him in a job?

Do you think its negligence that he is still in a job?

Do you think its justified to be a bit pissed of that the whole of Scottish football thinks Levein has the safest job In football?

 

 

No.

No.

No.

No.

 

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5 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Excellent post.  The idea that CL will allow AB to "look for a new manager " while he is still in the post is laughable.  The guy has weaseled his way into the fabric of our club, exactly as he tried to do at Dundee Utd, and made himself unsackable.  Protests against Levein after games will prove fruitless, as they did with Robinson initiallly, another arrogant, stubborn individual who claims to have the club's best interests at heart. As with the Save Our Hearts campaign, other forms of protests have to take place. Protests before the game, walkouts, boycotts will, of course, be used by Levein as excuses for his players "losing confidence ", " not being in a good place" etc but the price of inaction will be far higher with more months of mediocrity with him at the helm. 

 

You do know that CL reports to AB and the board don't you? 

 

As for "weaseled" his way into DU. You do realise that he was well respected at Dundee United and was one of their most successful mangers post Jim McLean.

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6 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

You do know that CL reports to AB and the board don't you? 

 

As for "weaseled" his way into DU. You do realise that he was well respected at Dundee United and was one of their most successful mangers post Jim McLean.

Successful in what way? His successor won silverware. Something he has never done.

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9 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

You do know that CL reports to AB and the board don't you? 

 

As for "weaseled" his way into DU. You do realise that he was well respected at Dundee United and was one of their most successful mangers post Jim McLean.

 

That the very same Dundee Utd that relegated your beloved Hibs... 

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3 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

You do know that CL reports to AB and the board don't you? 

 

As for "weaseled" his way into DU. You do realise that he was well respected at Dundee United and was one of their most successful mangers post Jim McLean.

I'm not sure that he "reports" to anyone on the footballing side to be honest. It's nothing more than a box-ticking exercise if he does. Regarding Dundee Utd, they have had a dearth of good managera in their history but Jim McLean, having won the LC and League, reaching a European final and beating Barca home and away shouldn't be compared to any one of them. Levein steadied them and had them higher than they had been but he trails behind Ivan Golac who delivered that elusive Scottish Cup.

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3 hours ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Levein should be replaced giving form and league position. 

 

Shankland signing for Utd is not a factor. 

Nothing to do with Levein going. 

 

Plenty of things to beat CL up with, some deservingly so. No need to make things up now. 

 

You can stand down now and use real things to forward your argument, it's not a year ago and you don't need to try too hard and make things up. 

 

The league table is your friend. 

 

 

 

Last year and this year, I’m pretty sure people will see I’m not making anything up but let’s leave it there.

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24 minutes ago, jake said:

Ok fair enough.

 

Can you stop going off on silly point scoring on silly points then.

Let's just stick to charity Levein.

Since October the 7th 2018.

Played 39 lost 22.

 

Are you happy ?

Do you think that record should keep him in a job?

Do you think its negligence that he is still in a job?

Do you think its justified to be a bit pissed of that the whole of Scottish football thinks Levein has the safest job In football?

 

 

It wasn't point scoring. 

 

Happy- no

 

I'll go on the kpi's, not selective dates. 

6th place 

Lc sf

Sc final. 

Possible sacking material. No where near 100% tho. 

 

 

This season 

6 points from 24.

No home league wins 

Lc sf

Sacking - leaning towards yes due to current form and fans apathy. 

 

However, it has to be for the better and planned. Covered it several times why right now isn't great, but we may have to take a gamble. 

 

No

No, I wouldn't listen to a thing the press says, not only on football for that matter. 

 

 

 

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