Sexton Hardcastle Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 See a lot of Wolves fans with tears and snotters after a shabby performance against part timers in the europa qualifier. Effectively a pre season game and boys seething they didn’t put ten last them. Sounds awfy familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Have you three people thought about meeting up for a drink sometime? Like at a Hearts event. I think you might get on. Random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Hands Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Have you three people thought about meeting up for a drink sometime? Like at a Hearts event. I think you might get on. You're being a bit silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Flappy Hands said: Yeah, it's a shame because he's obviously a good young manager. I'm not sure. Great job at St Mirren but if he couldn't piss League 1 with the resources he had at Sunderland it's not that impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Fair enough. We have the power! Don't think we're quite in that bad a state though. You must know there is huge unrest in the Hearts support over Levein. His brand of football is frankly prehistoric and many are reaching the end of their tether - if you were at the game on Wednesday you would hear the bile raining down on Levein after Stenny scored by very many Hearts fans in the stand. That reaction was not based on one game but the performances and negative football we have suffered over the last couple of seasons. The only reason ST sales did not slump is that we have a loyal bunch of fans who support the team but not necessarily the Manager. Edited July 25, 2019 by Thomaso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Hands Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: See a lot of Wolves fans with tears and snotters after a shabby performance against part timers in the europa qualifier. Effectively a pre season game and boys seething they didn’t put ten last them. Sounds awfy familiar. Part Timers in Europe? How is that possible Stenhousemuir on the other hand.. Those boys were out working days before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fort Vallance said: I'm not sure. Great job at St Mirren but if he couldn't piss League 1 with the resources he had at Sunderland it's not that impressive Sunderland are a shambles of a club that have been on the slide for years. It’s a tough gig for any Manager to turn that around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: You must know there is huge unrest in the Hearts support over Levein. His brand of football is frankly prehistoric and many are reaching the end of their tether - if you were at the game on Wednesday you would hear the bile raining down on Levein after Stenny scored by very many Hearts fans in the stand. That reaction was not based on one game but the performances and negative football we have suffered over the last couple of seasons. The only reason ST sales did not slump is that we have a loyal bunch of fans who support the team but not necessarily the Manager. Count me in that group. It should be possible to not like the manager but still not bang on about it all the time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Count me in that group. It should be possible to not like the manager but still not bang on about it all the time though. Levein is the key issue for very many Hearts fans right now so it is hardly surprising he features heavily on a Hearts fans forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Hands Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 It really annoys me when people say that we're still in pre season It's the league cup ffs! We should be wanting to win every game. EVERY ****ING GAME I remember when pep put his full team out against a so called diddy team. He want's to win every ****ing game! Do we want to be an average scottish team forever more? piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TweedbankJambo Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Flappy Hands said: It really annoys me when people say that we're still in pre season It's the league cup ffs! We should be wanting to win every game. EVERY ****ING GAME I remember when pep put his full team out against a so called diddy team. He want's to win every ****ing game! Do we want to be an average scottish team forever more? piss off. You're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: 😂😂😂 When they resort to the personal crap you know they are losing the argument. Losing no. Bored definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Losing no. Bored definitely. Good then switch off and give us all a break. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Good then switch off and give us all a break. 👍 Ah, so now you speak for the entire forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Hands Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 And don't get me started on youngsters just taking part. It's the taking part that counts.. Aye, that's why our national team is in the state it's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: It’s another special post brought to you by “I hope I’m wrong”!!! 😘 Getintaethem,,,you hit it spot on ,,👏👏👏👏👏🇶🇦🇱🇻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henroddy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Flappy Hands said: We will never know the truth. a bit like Burley getting the sack when we were top of the league. Pisses me right off. or when fans wanting the manager out when we are 2nd in league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Hands Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Henroddy said: or when fans wanting the manager out when we are 2nd in league Neilson? He went out on high, i'll give him that. The football before that was terrible and the league was weak. In the end, it was the hibs game what done him. He's done nothing to suggest he's a great manager since. He had the help from levein and the money to buy premiership players in the championship. Don't get me wrong, i think we'd probably be better off with him back right now, but that's no saying much for levein and macphee. We can do better than the lot of them. Edited July 25, 2019 by Flappy Hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Ah, so now you speak for the entire forum. Still here then? 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Flappy Hands said: Neilson? He went out on high, i'll give him that. The football before that was terrible and the league was weak. In the end, it was the hibs game what done him. He's done nothing to suggest he's a good manager since. He had the help from levein and the money to buy premiership players in the championship. Absolutely spot on Flappy! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: The League Cup is as unpredictable as any cup ? 2016 Celtic 2017 Celtic 2018 Celtic Well at least it's less predictable than the Scottish Cup 2017 Celtic 2018 Celtic 2019 Celtic Think people were referring to the group stages played in July before teams are properly prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Vancouver Whitecaps Fans have started doing this. Our naysayers might take it on Spoiler Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Budge was left with no choice but to punt Cathro after the “eejits” (fans) justifiable anger and reaction to the Dunfermline debacle. Cole Stockton missed a sitter with a few minutes to go. If he scored that we’d have went through. Levein was bailed out by Halkett. He was lucky. Levein is on a Cathro like run of results. Let’s see if Budge is strong enough to make the same decision about him - as she made with Cathro - in about 10 games from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: See a lot of Wolves fans with tears and snotters after a shabby performance against part timers in the europa qualifier. Effectively a pre season game and boys seething they didn’t put ten last them. Sounds awfy familiar. Hearts fans confusing competitive fixtures with pre-season fixtures certainly is a familiar theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntjambo Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Its over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 13 hours ago, merseyjambo said: League Cup last season, we were bloody lucky to get that far. The cock up with the player registration should have cost us 3 points but that would have meant the game against Inverness was a dead rubber for TV purposes, therefore they deducted us 2 giving us the chance to qualify. We struggled at Dunfermline, convinced against Motherwell and got well and truly emptied by Celtic. Scottish Cup was the easiest run you could get. Apart from livi, we got the weakest team in the hat in every round. Still got to beat them but you expect to be winning those games. For or a team with our wage bill we should be closely matching Aberdeen not finishing behind Killie with an inferior wage bill and behind Hibs. 4-0 against Celtic was 18 months ago. What did we get for it, 3 points. Points!!!!! The same as Hibs got in 1973 for beating us 7-0 and we take the pi$$ out of them for that. Are we still going to be going on about this in 40 years???? Winning at ER. Embarrassing that as a club our record there in the Budge era is truly woeful. I’ve been fortunate enough to have witnessed us ripping the pi$$ out of them there at will yet we are now claiming one victory in 5 years there as some sort of standard to accept. Lets also not forget our loss at home to them. Let’s also talk about Aberdeen. Their record at Tynecastle is as crap as ours is at Pitoddrie. We can hardly claim it’s besting them. Yet you seem to think that an even record against them, one victory at ER and a win against Celtic are reasons to keep a manager. What about getting thumped 5-0 at Livi and failing to beat them in the league last season, losing at home to Dundee, struggling at home against teams like St Midden or Hamilton because we had no plan B to break down a team that sits in. And there is our problem, his tactics without one player struggles to break down a team that sits in. We lose Naismith again this season and we will struggle again. I agree that any fan who wants the team to lose is no fan that I want following the team. I understand the frustrations that they have but wanting the team to lose, no thanks. Sorry but I fail to get excited about an upcoming season where I see a squad that still has glaring deficiencies that he will still not fix. We are crying out for a penalty box poacher and a driving force in midfield. They have been needed for a long time but it’s not been resolved. His stubborn blind faith in his system and lack of Plan B will be our undoing yet again this season. Drop mic. Absolutely nailed it. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Drop mic. Absolutely nailed it. 👍 Checks this is still a Hearts forum. Sees it is. Shakes head. Walks away baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away up in Gorgie Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Checks this is still a Hearts forum. Sees it is. Shakes head. Walks away baffled. If only Levein would walk away we might actually have the opportunity to have good season and build on the tremendous goodwill shown by thousands of Hearts supporters over the last few years. As things stand we are witnessing the complete wasting of the opportunity that the post administration years presented. Budge and Levein have taken the piss to such an extent that they have totally divided the support, a really sad state of affairs given the way everyone had united to save the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Inch Hearts said: Drop mic. Absolutely nailed it. 👍 I always got excited about a new season because, believe it or not, things can and do change. Sometimes things get worse and sometimes things get better.. but are seldom the exact same in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Flappy Hands said: It really annoys me when people say that we're still in pre season It's the league cup ffs! We should be wanting to win every game. EVERY ****ING GAME I remember when pep put his full team out against a so called diddy team. He want's to win every ****ing game! Do we want to be an average scottish team forever more? piss off. Funny that the "we're still in July" or "it's still pre-season " excuse didn't apply to Cathro when he was removed. The club is being held back by AB's and a section of fans' blind spot with Levein. The inability to separate CL the player and CL the manager , is damaging. It's clear from the garbage he spouts in the press and the performances over the last 2 seasons, that, as a manager, the guy is a dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Funny that the "we're still in July" or "it's still pre-season " excuse didn't apply to Cathro when he was removed. The club is being held back by AB's and a section of fans' blind spot with Levein. The inability to separate CL the player and CL the manager , is damaging. It's clear from the garbage he spouts in the press and the performances over the last 2 seasons, that, as a manager, the guy is a dud. Craig levein has got us out group stages unlike cathro and hasn't lost to the likes of peterhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Craig levein has got us out group stages unlike cathro and hasn't lost to the likes of peterhead Cathro managed to hammer Rangers at Tynie, something Levein has never done as Hearts manager. Didn't preside over a humiliating 5-0 defeat to a newly promoted side either. Swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 This thread, thanks to a few posters is now actually a belter. All after we won a game if football as well. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Cathro managed to hammer Rangers at Tynie, something Levein has never done as Hearts manager. Didn't preside over a humiliating 5-0 defeat to a newly promoted side either. Swings and roundabouts. Ffs Trying to somehow make out CL is on par with Cathro. CL hammererd, proper hammered celtic and won at ER. Got us to a sc final as well. Getting knocked out the lc by a league 2 side is also far worse than losing any league game. If you're in any way suggesting Cathro is better than CL, football is not for you. The debate ends there on that one, but Tbf winning a game with Jack Hamilton, nowak, Martin, Sowah and Hughes all starting does deserve bonus points for cathro😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Ffs Trying to somehow make out CL is on par with Cathro. CL hammererd, proper hammered celtic and won at ER. Got us to a sc final as well. Getting knocked out the lc by a league 2 side is also far worse than losing any league game. If you're in any way suggesting Cathro is better than CL, football is not for you. The debate ends there on that one, but Tbf winning a game with Jack Hamilton, nowak, Martin, Sowah and Hughes all starting does deserve bonus points for cathro😂 Levein obviously is a better manager however, If you look at Cathros record for the 6 months he was in charge and Levein last 6 months it's actually almost identical, though Cathro finished 5th. For that reason alone it's worth questioning why you'd hold them to different standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Cathro managed to hammer Rangers at Tynie, something Levein has never done as Hearts manager. Didn't preside over a humiliating 5-0 defeat to a newly promoted side either. Swings and roundabouts. Did cathro beat celtic 4 nil? Get to a semi final or final ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Ffs Trying to somehow make out CL is on par with Cathro. CL hammererd, proper hammered celtic and won at ER. Got us to a sc final as well. Getting knocked out the lc by a league 2 side is also far worse than losing any league game. If you're in any way suggesting Cathro is better than CL, football is not for you. The debate ends there on that one, but Tbf winning a game with Jack Hamilton, nowak, Martin, Sowah and Hughes all starting does deserve bonus points for cathro😂 Unfair to compare Cathro to Levein I agree. Although getting to a Scottish Cup Final with the teams we faced is to be expected. He shouldn't get a large amount of credit for that and a game that MacPhee was largely responsible for either. I will give him credit for the cup final performance and the work he's done behind the scenes and signings of Haring and Naismith among others. Ultimately two 6th place finishes should have spelt the end for his time in charge of the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, bistokid said: Levein obviously is a better manager however, If you look at Cathros record for the 6 months he was in charge and Levein last 6 months it's actually almost identical, though Cathro finished 5th. For that reason alone it's worth questioning why you'd hold them to different standards. Neilson won most of the points. Cartho would have got us relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, bistokid said: Levein obviously is a better manager however, If you look at Cathros record for the 6 months he was in charge and Levein last 6 months it's actually almost identical, though Cathro finished 5th. For that reason alone it's worth questioning why you'd hold them to different standards. Levein's record is better than Cathros overall. We got to a lc semi and a sc final. We never got knocked out the lc by Peterhead. I am holding them to the same standard- overall record at club. Not even debating this tbh. It's absurd. Like off the wall mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Neilson won most of the points. Cartho would have got us relegated. The respective records was the point I was making. Almost identical through the same period of time. Relegation form in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Levein's record is better than Cathros overall. We got to a lc semi and a sc final. We never got knocked out the lc by Peterhead. I am holding them to the same standard- overall record at club. Not even debating this tbh. It's absurd. Like off the wall mental. I am not debating anything. The records in the last 6 months are similar. That's why this thread exists. Cup runs - fortuitous draws play a part so I believe the more accurate comparison would be league form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, bistokid said: I am not debating anything. The records in the last 6 months are similar. That's why this thread exists. Cup runs - fortuitous draws play a part so I believe the more accurate comparison would be league form. Ok then. Crack on. Maybe we'll get lucky, sack CL and get Cathro back in. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Did cathro beat celtic 4 nil? Get to a semi final or final ? How long is the 4-0 going to be used to justify Leveins position? A complete anomaly. A fantastic day, but an anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who_put_the_ball_in... Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He’s not as bad as Cathro but no where near good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: How long is the 4-0 going to be used to justify Leveins position? A complete anomaly. A fantastic day, but an anomaly. Anything good is an anomaly or expected. Anything bad, CL's fault, get him to ****. Examples Celtic 4-0 Cup final--shite teams we beat, expected. Clean sheet record - typical Levein, never scored enough. Knocking hibs out the cup and ending the erveun- expected Livi 5-0, typical, get him sacked. Poor form after injuries-get him sacked, ignoring our results pre injuries. No wonder why folk think the anti Levein stuff is personal, anything good is brushed off, anything bad- all his fault, get him to ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, Who_put_the_ball_in... said: He’s not as bad as Cathro but no where near good enough for us. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: This thread, thanks to a few posters is now actually a belter. All after we won a game if football as well. 😂 😂😂 This place cracks me up at times. Question, have we lost a competitive game this season? The way this thread is going I think I may have missed something! Wait for the reaction when we actually do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Could he have been sacked? Yes Should he have been sacked? Maybe Was he sacked? No Therefore we move on. It’s a new season and the first few games have shown a mix of positives and negatives. Far too early to write off this season as “same again.” We’re trying to play in a more attacking way and this is clear to see with the formations, selections and shots counts. Our finishing and tempo needs to improve though from what people have said and we need that strong replacement for Haring in midfield. I’m still buzzing about the new season, especially with my daughter arriving early and meaning I can now make our first home game 😊👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said: 😂😂 This place cracks me up at times. Question, have we lost a competitive game this season? The way this thread is going I think I may have missed something! Wait for the reaction when we actually do! Tbf, conceding a goal is always shite, but coming on here actually makes it quite a thing. Stenny scoring first and then us winning made conceding first quite entertaining, I could almost taste the excitement of some posters, then for it to be torn from thier grasp and then just go on one anyway is what the internet is all about! It's like in their mind we got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, To Be Frank said: Could he have been sacked? Yes Should he have been sacked? Maybe Was he sacked? No Therefore we move on. It’s a new season and the first few games have shown a mix of positives and negatives. Far too early to write off this season as “same again.” We’re trying to play in a more attacking way and this is clear to see with the formations, selections and shots counts. Our finishing and tempo needs to improve though from what people have said and we need that strong replacement for Haring in midfield. I’m still buzzing about the new season, especially with my daughter arriving early and meaning I can now make our first home game 😊👍🏻 Well said. Mee too. Congratulations. And.... Do you think so? 😳 Edited July 26, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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