Hercules Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Careful mate. You’ll stir the fanboys. They’re plotting a cunning plan as we speak. You’re a Hibby coz you’ve no got a million posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Carronlea Jambo said: I don't post on here often Before I get any "troll" feedback I am a long term ST holder, Wheatfield F. If anybody thinks that this team is ready to challenge then they are as delusional as our manager. We are TOOTHLESS and SPINELESS. We are not in any way shape or form any better than the toothless and spineless team from last season that won 1 game in 12 or whatever it was. A half decent performance in the Cup Final plus a late victory over a League 2 team will no doubt keep this man in a job but we are in for a long, hard season ahead. Why are we willing to accept this? Pretty good post that. Well worthy of its own thread Surprised those points have never been raised before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, kila said: OK it is still 'pre season' given it is only July, but I am starting to fear the worst again! Not having a go at you, but this “pre-season” chat does my head in. Pre-season finished for us on July 12th. We’re now in the middle of a campaign in one of the only two tournaments we have a realistic chance of winning. It was the same after we were pumped out of Europe by the Maltese team. All sorts of chronic “once the season starts” comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 year plan thats why. Or so we keep being told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I don't know about toothless or spineless but the "less" I would use is "clueless". There is not one inventive idea in that team at all and no one willing to try anything different. I said Levein should go at the end of last season as we need new thinking. However, this will continue until the FoH takeover is complete then Levein will step down. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: What “context” is ‘a very good Hearts team once struggled about 30 years ago’? Total irrelevance I’m afraid. Only if it suits you. The point is that struggles vs small teams is not a new phenomenon for this current Hearts team. That was the point of the original observation. Nothing more. No excuses being offered. It seems to me to be rather backwards and dysfunctional to obtusely discredit any observations that challenge the group wallow. Sad. Have a wallow then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I usually avoid KB after a defeat. Might have to extend that to after a win, too. If your first reaction after Hearts winning a game - in JULY! - is to have a moan, you need your head examined. The whole point is winning games. It's July FFS. We will get better. Try looking for positives, eg about a million chances created, our new defender being a scoring machine, more game time for two very promising youngsters, and, oh yeah, we won! Of course there are downsides: Clare was poor, Uche can't shoot, our cutting edge up front is still awol. But it is still July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Carronlea Jambo said: I don't post on here often Before I get any "troll" feedback I am a long term ST holder, Wheatfield F. If anybody thinks that this team is ready to challenge then they are as delusional as our manager. We are TOOTHLESS and SPINELESS. We are not in any way shape or form any better than the toothless and spineless team from last season that won 1 game in 12 or whatever it was. A half decent performance in the Cup Final plus a late victory over a League 2 team will no doubt keep this man in a job but we are in for a long, hard season ahead. Why are we willing to accept this? You're not accepting it, you're slavering Shite on JKB. You'll get applauded and lauded by many. Well done you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On the way home from the game and yet to speak to anyone that thinks Levein should be in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Carronlea Jambo said: I don't post on here often Before I get any "troll" feedback I am a long term ST holder, Wheatfield F. If anybody thinks that this team is ready to challenge then they are as delusional as our manager. We are TOOTHLESS and SPINELESS. We are not in any way shape or form any better than the toothless and spineless team from last season that won 1 game in 12 or whatever it was. A half decent performance in the Cup Final plus a late victory over a League 2 team will no doubt keep this man in a job but we are in for a long, hard season ahead. Why are we willing to accept this? Which team? The team that started today or this team: Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Walker Haring AN Other Mulraney Naismith Uche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, leginten said: Not having a go at you, but this “pre-season” chat does my head in. Pre-season finished for us on July 12th. We’re now in the middle of a campaign in one of the only two tournaments we have a realistic chance of winning. It was the same after we were pumped out of Europe by the Maltese team. All sorts of chronic “once the season starts” comments. That's a good point. We're really struggling in this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sorry, but delusional is a .net word. They use it all the time. Not suggesting you are one of them for a moment but the thread title put me right off. Not disagreeing with your sentiments though. Is levein ever going to find a striker who can find the net? It would seem that Cumdog's granny would be a better bet than anything we've got or pretty much anything we've had since Robbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: On the way home from the game and yet to speak to anyone that thinks Levein should be in a job. Unfortunately AB does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'm sorry but things need to get better after that. Yes it's only July but it's still a competitive fixture and that was utter utter dross. If that is what we have to expect to be served up this season then we are in for a tough time over the next 10 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I usually avoid KB after a defeat. Might have to extend that to after a win, too. If your first reaction after Hearts winning a game - in JULY! - is to have a moan, you need your head examined. The whole point is winning games. It's July FFS. We will get better. Try looking for positives, eg about a million chances created, our new defender being a scoring machine, more game time for two very promising youngsters, and, oh yeah, we won! Of course there are downsides: Clare was poor, Uche can't shoot, our cutting edge up front is still awol. But it is still July. I get what you're saying but it's difficult to remain positive when the same weaknesses are on show for 2 season's and haven't yet been addressed for the coming season. Levein is failing and this squad needs new impetus via a new forward thinking manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoPo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Carronlea Jambo said: I don't post on here often Before I get any "troll" feedback I am a long term ST holder, Wheatfield F. If anybody thinks that this team is ready to challenge then they are as delusional as our manager. We are TOOTHLESS and SPINELESS. We are not in any way shape or form any better than the toothless and spineless team from last season that won 1 game in 12 or whatever it was. A half decent performance in the Cup Final plus a late victory over a League 2 team will no doubt keep this man in a job but we are in for a long, hard season ahead. Why are we willing to accept this? 👏👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Jammy T will be along soon to tell us we’re not real fans and this was a top performance. He’s not the only one. Fanboys everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie White Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Which team? The team that started today or this team: Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Walker Haring AN Other Mulraney Naismith Uche If you honestly think this team of players will get us into the top 4 (where we should be at least) then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83x Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Don’t think is need to be too dramatic. Disappointing result but solution seems clear, we are not good enough to play 4-4-2. We need three in the middle of the park to get a foothold on the game (against anyone). This is not Salvatori and Cameron, we need to work around our current limitations in the middle of the park. 4-3-3, walker and Mulraney in wide areas, Washington up top, Naismith in behind. Things will improve thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Do we shout bingo when we have a full house of the Levein apologists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoPo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Which team? The team that started today or this team: Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Walker Haring AN Other Mulraney Naismith Uche Like that lot will ever all be fit at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: I get what you're saying but it's difficult to remain positive when the same weaknesses are on show for 2 season's and haven't yet been addressed for the coming season. Levein is failing and this squad needs new impetus via a new forward thinking manager. Some folk don't seem to get any pleasure from football. I enjoy a win personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Carronlea Jambo said: I don't post on here often Before I get any "troll" feedback I am a long term ST holder, Wheatfield F. If anybody thinks that this team is ready to challenge then they are as delusional as our manager. We are TOOTHLESS and SPINELESS. We are not in any way shape or form any better than the toothless and spineless team from last season that won 1 game in 12 or whatever it was. A half decent performance in the Cup Final plus a late victory over a League 2 team will no doubt keep this man in a job but we are in for a long, hard season ahead. Why are we willing to accept this? If we sign a couple of decent midfielders I think our season will be better. Performances so far not good enough. I wonder how much our over spend on building the main stand together with our large investment in women’s football is impacting the playing budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The kneejerkers can only operate in an extreme manner which frequently results in reactions like this OP. For the rest it's more of a case of quietly recognising another poor performance without running the knickers up the flag pole. Remembering the poor form of last season and preparing to accept that little progress has been made... but without abandoning all hope at this early juncture. HOW ****ING MAD AM I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Archie White said: If you honestly think this team of players will get us into the top 4 (where we should be at least) then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. You think Hibs and Killie have better first teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Levein should go back to being director of football. We need a fresh start with a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said: Some folk don't seem to get any pleasure from football. I enjoy a win personally. I enjoy a win but I want to see progress too. The manner of the win was poor. Now if it had been Hibs we were playing and we came up with two late goals like that I would be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: You think Hibs and Killie have better first teams? You play the game on paper far too much. Equally, if you use that game and project forward, teams like Hamilton and Ross County are going to come to Tynie to sit in and steal on the break and will succeed quite frequently. That team, bar Naismith, has bugger all in the way of creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak47 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: On the way home from the game and yet to speak to anyone that thinks Levein should be in a job. Get a whip round going and hire a plane mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I love when threads start with where people sit and how long they’ve been a fan for 😂 Poor performance no doubt but nothing is going to change unless Levein steps down and for me changing manager this stage is panicking for no major reason. Ultimately we want to finish top of the group and we’ll do that with a win/ draw on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa-mundial Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Granted it's still early-ish, but there's no denying the early warning signs are visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Haringshairband said: I enjoy a win but I want to see progress too. The manner of the win was poor. Now if it had been Hibs we were playing and we came up with two late goals like that I would be ecstatic. Progress from what? It's early season LC qualifiers. Fitness and staying in the competition are all that matters to me. I am concerned about the strikers not scoring but we're certainly creating chances. I'm generally a positive sort though when it comes to Hearts. Anyone who's follow them for over 30 years has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 So, if we lost - Levein out If we win comfortably - It's only Stenhousemuir and no matter who we beat this season, it doesn't matter as we've been shite for two years We scrape the win - Couldn't care that we won, we didn't win in the right way New season, same old snowflakes 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: You play the game on paper far too much. Equally, if you use that game and project forward, teams like Hamilton and Ross County are going to come to Tynie to sit in and steal on the break and will succeed quite frequently. That team, bar Naismith, has bugger all in the way of creativity. Well, do they? They are our competitors for 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambmoz Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Don’t mind levein tbh, but he’s gonna need to get someone scoring or this season is going to torture. Ffs why can’t he just sign a striker who doesn’t have to double up as a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: You're not accepting it, you're slavering Shite on JKB. You'll get applauded and lauded by many. Well done you. Do you ever post anything that isn’t a personal insult or telling us Craig is going nowhere? Go on, enlighten us with your football knowledge / thoughts for a change. Do you have any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said: Well, do they? They are our competitors for 4th. If I was looking at the squad on paper, I would say we are better. I said that last season too and look what happened. That game would give me pause for thought on whether I'm overrating our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This thread getting bumped after every goal we concede is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'll allow you all to celebrate a monumental win against Stenhousemuir while I worry about the season ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) I wasn’t impressed with tonight but let’s wait a bit ? It’s clear up front there’s an issue but give them a chance to get up to speed. A fit Haring and Naismith will be huge for us. Edited July 24, 2019 by 1971fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Tommy Wright wouldn't suffer these type of results if he was our manager…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Haringshairband said: I'll allow you all to celebrate a monumental win against Stenhousemuir while I worry about the season ahead. You do that, worry your little self to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: This thread getting bumped after every goal we concede is ridiculous. You’ve just done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sorry but have I missed something? Are we not top of our group? Are we not unbeaten? We’ve had some terrible league cup campaigns and teams from previous seasons would have folded at 1-0 down. You simply can’t judge performances vs lower league teams as you would against an Aberdeen or a Killie. Stenny, like Cowdenbeath and United (for the most part) spent the vast majority of the game with 10 or 11 players behind the ball. That’s not going to be the case during the league season and more space will open up. I’m comfortable with the direction we’re heading at the moment. Yes there’s things to work on but fans were screaming for a more attacking approach, we’ve started with that but it takes time for everyone to be settled with the style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: You do that, worry your little self to sleep. Don't be a patronising bell chief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: This thread getting bumped after every goal we concede is ridiculous. The thread got bumped because Stenny went 1 up with ten mins left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, DarioHMFC said: Sorry but have I missed something? Are we not top of our group? Are we not unbeaten? We’ve had some terrible league cup campaigns and teams from previous seasons would have folded at 1-0 down. You simply can’t judge performances vs lower league teams as you would against an Aberdeen or a Killie. Stenny, like Cowdenbeath and United (for the most part) spent the vast majority of the game with 10 or 11 players behind the ball. That’s not going to be the case during the league season and more space will open up. I’m comfortable with the direction we’re heading at the moment. Yes there’s things to work on but fans were screaming for a more attacking approach, we’ve started with that but it takes time for everyone to be settled with the style of play. St Bribery? Hamilton? Ross County? Livingston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Inch Hearts said: The thread got bumped because Stenny went 1 up with ten mins left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: Don't be a patronising bell chief I think by saying we can celebrate the win v Stenny and you will worry about the season ahaed makes that comment above redundant. If you post patronising guff, expect it back with interest, chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Needs more a n others Lots more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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