Mr Elwood P Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Wow I did not know that..the football knowledge some posters have astounds me If you are happy with 2 defensive midfielders in the majority of matches then so be it but for me too defensive The teams that win do so by scoring more goals than the opposition. Football has moved on as should we Our manager gets enough stick from some without adding defensive play to the list of complaints You also need to concede less goals to be successful. We conceded a lot of goals last season. If we concede less and score more, we will win more. The 4-2-3-1 gives the attacking 4 loads of freedom. It also provides cover for fullbacks to get up the pitch. It can be very attacking and was the formation we played for most of the Championship season. How many goals did we score again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Yes Haring behind Whelan !!!! ...I think not Haring scored 5 goals in 26 games...I know who is more of an attacking midfield player (even if he is not) You seriously think Haring is a better player than Glenn Whelan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Has Whelan signed for someone else or is he meeting craig man???🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: 'Nonsense' Lol The truth hurts I understand 😑 Opinion......It's what makes the world go around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: You seriously think Haring is a better player than Glenn Whelan? Haring is a better player than Whelan...the Whelan of today at 35 years of age That's who we are talking about not the Whelan of a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Has Whelan signed for someone else or is he meeting craig man???🤷♂️ 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I'm IKN. I know nothing. It's great. When you know nothing nothing worries you. And everything surprises you! How brilliant's that?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I'm IKN. I know nothing. It's great. When you know nothing nothing worries you. How do you know that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, CJGJ said: The truth hurts I understand 😑 Opinion......It's what makes the world go around Lots of sides with 3-2-4-1 or 4-2-3-1 formations play attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Do we need Whelan? Unless there are real concerns over Haring long term. Still lack creativity in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Basically says also negociating with Whelan looking at him for the same position (more or less) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Do we need Whelan? Unless there are real concerns over Haring long term. Still lack creativity in the middle. That's about where I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, jr ewing said: Rather someone else did. Agreed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Is this guy ever going to sign for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Haring is a better player than Whelan...the Whelan of today at 35 years of age That's who we are talking about not the Whelan of a few years ago There's always a lot of chat about needing 2 players for every position. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to have Haring, Damour and Whelan in the squad, especially short term. I think Whelan would be a great addition, particularly at places like Parkhead and Ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Haring is a better player than Whelan...the Whelan of today at 35 years of age That's who we are talking about not the Whelan of a few years ago Haring is better than a player that just played the vast majority of games for a team that got promoted from the championship to English premier league? Unless Whelan legs have fallen off in the few weeks between last season and this one there’s no way Haring is a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Haring is a better player than Whelan...the Whelan of today at 35 years of age I mean I like Haring an that but Jesus. Whelan would instantly become our best midfield player should he sign. Including Damour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhalljambo15 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, HoGwash said: There's always a lot of chat about needing 2 players for every position. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to have Haring, Damour and Whelan in the squad, especially short term. I think Whelan would be a great addition, particularly at places like Parkhead and Ibrox. Probably more so Ibrox than parkhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Whatever said: I mean I like Haring an that but Jesus. Whelan would instantly become our best midfield player should he sign. Including Damour. And I would always take a player who could improve the squad. We would be a different side. Bearing in mind hopefully see more than Walker, Washington, Mulvaney and Nsismith further forward. A strong foundation would be created with Halkett, Damour and Whelan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Beg to differ. Whelan and Damour as the defensive 2 in a 4-2-3-1 would be brilliant. Add a keeper and potentially Lafferty and we'd be laughing! My thoughts too. I'd be pretty optimistic of a minimum 3rd place finish and at least one final if that were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Can you imagine if we pulled off Whelan and James Morrison as well as Damour 😳 We would take some beating that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Probably more so Ibrox than parkhead Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Whatever said: I mean I like Haring an that but Jesus. Whelan would instantly become our best midfield player should he sign. Including Damour. Agree. Whelan would be a great signing. Had have Brown, Arfield, Allan, etc. in his pocket. Brown’s has it easy for years up here. Would love to see hm up against a proper hard midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Whatever said: I mean I like Haring an that but Jesus. Whelan would instantly become our best midfield player should he sign. Including Damour. This is why I like kickback....Haring better than Whelan. Haring has been a revelation for us for sure....but seriously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Can you imagine if we pulled off Whelan and James Morrison as well as Damour 😳 We would take some beating that's for sure I've not seen Damour play but it'd potentially be the best midfield I've seen at Hearts! I think we've lacked quality in the middle for a long time to the point we've almost forgot what a CM should be doing! Then add Naismith in front of them and 3rd place is a real target again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: I've not seen Damour play but it'd potentially be the best midfield I've seen at Hearts! I think we've lacked quality in the middle for a long time to the point we've almost forgot what a CM should be doing! Then add Naismith in front of them and 3rd place is a real target again. And if we get in a GOALSCORER second place would be obtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henroddy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I don't understand the thing people have on his age. He played over 30 games last season for a team promoted to the English Premier League. And now hes too old to play for us/his legs have gone/not good enough? Come on guys! Ronaldo 30s. Messi 30s. Both shite! Should be looking at youth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 59 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I'm IKN. I know nothing. It's great. When you know nothing nothing worries you. Ignorance is bliss Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Can you imagine if we pulled off Whelan and James Morrison as well as Damour 😳 We would take some beating that's for sure Neither of them are signing so you can continue to dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said: I'm IKN. I know nothing. It's great. When you know nothing nothing worries you. I've always found those that know nothing, know everything and the blusterpusses that know everything, know nothing. So, what do you REALLY know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Neither of them are signing so you can continue to dream Wouldn't bet on it.....but nor would I bet against one of them rocking up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: I've not seen Damour play but it'd potentially be the best midfield I've seen at Hearts! I think we've lacked quality in the middle for a long time to the point we've almost forgot what a CM should be doing! Then add Naismith in front of them and 3rd place is a real target again. If we got that lot we’d be aiming for 2nd not 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 38 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Probably more so Ibrox than parkhead Why one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 47 minutes ago, LeylandJambo said: Is this guy ever going to sign for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, busby1985 said: What’s utter pish? You think it’s just a coincidence that Clare, Djoum and Isma, in recent years, have been singled out above other players even tho they perform comparable or better than most? Martin, Vanecek & Sammon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle rock Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, grumpyespana said: And if we get in a GOALSCORER second place would be obtainable. I'm in the minority but I believe CW naisy and walker will all score double figures uche wont be far off 10 either still would love a penalty box type tho and a keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Neither of them are signing so you can continue to dream How do you know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, iainmac said: Martin, Vanecek & Sammon? Don’t think you’ve read his post properly tbh. Not that I agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, CJGJ said: Haring is a better player than Whelan...the Whelan of today at 35 years of age That's who we are talking about not the Whelan of a few years ago Behave! He's 35 not 55. He played 30+ games in the English Championship, never had any pace anyway. He would be a brilliant signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger jambo98 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Neither of them are signing so you can continue to dream Pretty sure Damour signed 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Cygnet said: Get him tae ****. If he hasn’t decided by now he is not going to be fully committed IMO. Go all out for James Morrison instead. 👍👍👍 I’d suggest it’s quite the opposite. A player takes a long time to make his mind up - makes him more committed to his decision as he has properly thought it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhalljambo15 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 48 minutes ago, Morgan said: Why one over the other? Not hard to guess who his favoured team is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I’d suggest it’s quite the opposite. A player takes a long time to make his mind up - makes him more committed to his decision as he has properly thought it through. I agree. Whelan owes us nothing, and has no connection to our club. Why would he jump at the chance to play for a much smaller club in a much smaller league? The fact that he’s taking time to think about this, rather than saying “nah, you’re alright”, speaks volumes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, iainmac said: Martin, Vanecek & Sammon? Not really wanting to weigh in on this particular insinuated debate as it never ends well, but one thing that’s different about those 3 players you’ve mentioned and the others mentioned previously is that those 3 got next to no game time - so people saying they’re not good enough was backed up. Whereas the others have been first team regulars, Isma scored as many league goals as Lafferty in less games, Djoum won a major international tournament with Cameroon and Clare is evidently a brilliant prospect getting regular game time to aid his development as a still fledgling player. All I’m pointing out is the three you’ve mentioned got criticised (but not often angrily I might add) but were not playing, whereas the others get anger towards them constantly for reasons only known to those with the criticism. Because certainly on the pitch none of them have warranted the abuse and criticism they received/receive. Edited August 9, 2019 by BackOfTheNet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Not hard to guess who his favoured team is He was a St Pats supporter. Big fan of Keena and the guy with dreadlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Naismith, Washington , Walker, Damour, Halkett of we bring in Whelan and a goalie I would honestly think it’s the best transfer window since Burley took over. Its been pretty exceptional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bozi said: Naismith, Washington , Walker, Damour, Halkett of we bring in Whelan and a goalie I would honestly think it’s the best transfer window since Burley took over. Its been pretty exceptional Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: So did you...or are you Banderson? On the back of a tweet he sent last night. I don’t claim to be ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris 84 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Oops Edited August 9, 2019 by Paris 84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Not really wanting to weigh in on this particular insinuated debate as it never ends well, but one thing that’s different about those 3 players you’ve mentioned and the others mentioned previously is that those 3 got next to no game time - so people saying they’re not good enough was backed up. Whereas the others have been first team regulars, Isma scored as many league goals as Lafferty in less games, Djoum won a major international tournament with Cameroon and Clare is evidently a brilliant prospect getting regular game time to aid his development as a still fledgling player. All I’m pointing out is the three you’ve mentioned got criticised (but not often angrily I might add) but were not playing, whereas the others get anger towards them constantly for reasons only known to those with the criticism. Because certainly on the pitch none of them have warranted the abuse and criticism they received/receive. None of the six are Scottish. Another angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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