Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Yes, I for one will be distraught if next summer we sign players of the quality of Halkett, Naismith, Washington, Walker and possibly Whelan. Shambles! Yep its clear to see the difference they have made👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: If you do that your rule out the top 30-40% of potential signings because very few good players will commit their futures in January. What needs to happen to make the whole thing fairer is that all transfer windows need to clear set at the same time and before any of the seasons start. If our, and league 1 and 2 in England, window closed this Thursday as well then most transfer activity would already be done. As it is we have nearly another four weeks trawling around those that didn’t get deals with epl and Championship clubs. Really fair comment on windows closing at different times, unfair all round. As we become more financially secure I would hope we could use our advantage over the non old firm clubs to get more deals done pre contract. It might mean losing out on the occasional gem late window but it makes a big difference getting players settled in as soon as everyone comes back from holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Yes, I for one will be distraught if next summer we sign players of the quality of Halkett, Naismith, Washington, Walker and possibly Whelan. Shambles! I more or less agree but the lack of a decent midfielder showed in the League cup games and on Sunday. I'm glad we didn't qualify for Europe with our lack of quality in midfield as it could well have been another Maltese fiasco. Fingers crossed Whelan signs asap particularly as we have a difficult tie at Motherwell coming up fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Here's what I'm hoping. Better quality you have to wait until the English window is out of the way as an option. If so absolutely correct to be patient and the planning is spot on. If we get quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, EIEIO said: I more or less agree but the lack of a decent midfielder showed in the League cup games and on Sunday. I'm glad we didn't qualify for Europe with our lack of quality in midfield as it could well have been another Maltese fiasco. Fingers crossed Whelan signs asap particularly as we have a difficult tie at Motherwell coming up fast. We don’t know how fit he is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Here's what I'm hoping. Better quality you have to wait until the English window is out of the way as an option. If so absolutely correct to be patient and the planning is spot on. If we get quality Did Aberdeen wait even though McKinnes had a rebuilding job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: We don’t know how fit he is though. Didn't know how fit Naismith was until Sunday and he was returning from injury. Whelan played most games last season at a decent level so unless he's been in Thailand with big Dave I would give him some game time on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Can't see this happening now unfortunately. Probably got an offer or two down South which is understandable. Hopefully we are working on something else . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Did Aberdeen wait even though McKinnes had a rebuilding job? They had Europe, God knows what he has paid for those he has brought in. Patience. If by 2 September and the window is closed and we still have mediocrity then complain. Personally delighted we are showing discipline and responsibility with cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Didn't know how fit Naismith was until Sunday and he was returning from injury. Whelan played most games last season at a decent level so unless he's been in Thailand with big Dave I would give him some game time on Saturday. Naismith has trained with us all summer so we knew how fit he was. Whelan hasn’t played for two months, even if he’s kept himself ticking over he won’t be match fit unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Naismith has trained with us all summer so we knew how fit he was. Whelan hasn’t played for two months, even if he’s kept himself ticking over he won’t be match fit unfortunately. No he hasn’t. He only returned to training after op in mid July. He didn’t do Gullane or any of the heavy stuff. His first game time was last Tuesday for 65 mins in a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jodami said: The comments on a lack of planning are difficult to argue with. The cleanest way to build a squad is lining up pre contracts from the January onwards, we should have made a decision on Djoum by the spring time at the latest. The Djoum thing boils ma pish!!! He should have been offered the contract with a deadline date and if hes not signed it by then it gets withdrawn. Hope weve learned a lesson here. Commit by that date or GTF! We have a club to run and plans to make & we cant afford to wait on 1 individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: The Djoum thing boils ma pish!!! He should have been offered the contract with a deadline date and if hes not signed it by then it gets withdrawn. Hope weve learned a lesson here. Commit by that date or GTF! We have a club to run and plans to make & we cant afford to wait on 1 individual. We had months to plan a replacement for Djoum. A list off 10 candidates whom we could move onto as soon as Djoum finished mucking us around. No Craig Levein though. Absolute shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Had all summer to sort this and we're scraping about the barrel for a 35 year old. Starting the season with a kid and a guy who isn't even a centre mid away at Aberdeen. Woeful stuff all round. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, kimosavi said: We had months to plan a replacement for Djoum. A list off 10 candidates whom we could move onto as soon as Djoum finished mucking us around. No Craig Levein though. Absolute shambles. And how would you know we haven’t had a list of 10 candidates or are you guessing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: And how would you know we haven’t had a list of 10 candidates or are you guessing again. Because the seasons started and we have no midfield??😂😂🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Did Aberdeen wait even though McKinnes had a rebuilding job? Aberdeen have signed loads of donkeys over the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Leveins Battalion said: Because the seasons started and we have no midfield??😂😂🙈 We have possibly approached midfielders ( on the list) 😁 but as we have a wage limit we’re finding it hard. As someone else said if we bought 5 random midfielders some folk would combust because they’re not world class. Also we’re only 1 midfielder down from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: Listening to Ann's recent interviews my guess is she has finally cottened on that Craig Levein talks some amount of shite,sounding like there will be changes in the football department even if were stuck with Craig in the meantime. The planning for this season is a shambles,no other word for it.We have endured a pathetic start to the season with some embarrassing results already in the cup,and weve lost our 1st league game and still no midfielders signed. Thankfully this will be the last summer with Craig in charge at Heart of Midlothian. So we sign Walker, Naismith, Washington and Halkett and and are lining up a current Irish international but that's a shambles. We are in the next round of the LC but that's a shambles. If you can point out where Ann says Craig talks shite I might not describe your post as a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 How signing a 35 yr old midfielder fits, in any way, with a progressive plan for this club is beyond me. We had all 2019 to see the requirement no matter who stayed or otherwise. Can only presume its one year to buy us time. That may not be attractive to Whelan at his age, and he might be wanting 2 yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Because the seasons started and we have no midfield??😂😂🙈 We know we have spoken to Bryson, Whelan, Morrison, Damour and the unknown we are currently in talks with. I suspect we have spoken to others as well. It’s all about quality rather than quantity now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: How signing a 35 yr old midfielder fits, in any way, with a progressive plan for this club is beyond me. We had all 2019 to see the requirement no matter who stayed or otherwise. Can only presume its one year to buy us time. That may not be attractive to Whelan at his age, and he might be wanting 2 yrs. I’m sure he knows who/what he wants in midfield but can he get any of them within our budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: How signing a 35 yr old midfielder fits, in any way, with a progressive plan for this club is beyond me. We had all 2019 to see the requirement no matter who stayed or otherwise. Can only presume its one year to buy us time. That may not be attractive to Whelan at his age, and he might be wanting 2 yrs. He'll end up another Aron Hughes...waste of time and space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: He'll end up another Aron Hughes...waste of time and space. No he won’t we need someone like him in our team a bit grit in the middle of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: And how would you know we haven’t had a list of 10 candidates or are you guessing again. Because its been about 3 weeks since Djoum left and we still have Zero replacements A player we knew could leave for 6 months prior and the season has started already and we've still nothing in place And How do you know we have had 10 candidate's? Or are You Guessing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, NB GIN said: No he won’t we need someone like him in our team a bit grit in the middle of the pitch Correct but our scouts cant find one so we are scampering around old pro's who want a last gig,thankfully we wont have to endure too much more of the 'Levein regime'🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Dorrans was also rumoured to be a candidate but he picked up another injury recently so could have ruled him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: He'll end up another Aron Hughes...waste of time and space. There’s absolutely no way you can know that. All we know at the moment is that he has pedigree. Meanwhile you bash on spraffing your endless shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: How signing a 35 yr old midfielder fits, in any way, with a progressive plan for this club is beyond me. We had all 2019 to see the requirement no matter who stayed or otherwise. Can only presume its one year to buy us time. That may not be attractive to Whelan at his age, and he might be wanting 2 yrs. He is seemingly happy with wages and the one year deal offered, sticking point is that his family won’t move up so discussions are continuing around how much time he spends training on his own at home v training with the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: He'll end up another Aron Hughes...waste of time and space. You are at it. No idea how you haven't been launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Hughes came back from the Indian League Whelan has been playing at a high level. The comparison is barely credible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: He'll end up another Aron Hughes...waste of time and space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, NB GIN said: No he won’t we need someone like him in our team a bit grit in the middle of the pitch Rangers said the same with joey Barton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Hughes came back from the Indian League Whelan has been playing at a high level. The comparison is barely credible Joey Barton was player of the year for a club who got promoted to the EPL. Our game is fast and if legs are an issue you get found out. Hughes did come from the Indian league yet many were delighted he signed then given more years for some random reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Joey Barton was player of the year for a club who got promoted to the EPL. Our game is fast and if legs are an issue you get found out. Hughes did come from the Indian league yet many were delighted he signed then given more years for some random reason. Hughes had a decent career but was genuinely one of the worst players I've seen in a Hearts Jersey,absoloutly finished.His performances at Easter Road and at Hamilton were beyond pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Joey Barton was player of the year for a club who got promoted to the EPL. Our game is fast and if legs are an issue you get found out. Hughes did come from the Indian league yet many were delighted he signed then given more years for some random reason. Tynecastle is also small. Whelans legs. Probably the best engine in the Championship last season. Fantastic powers of recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Joey Barton was player of the year for a club who got promoted to the EPL. Our game is fast and if legs are an issue you get found out. Hughes did come from the Indian league yet many were delighted he signed then given more years for some random reason. We had clowns on here telling us Don Cowie's legs had gone when he was signed but he was still our fittest player at 35. I'd wait and see before I write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Doesn’t want to train in Edinburgh full time and wants to spend half the week in Birmingham! Don’t think we are going to agree to that tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: How signing a 35 yr old midfielder fits, in any way, with a progressive plan for this club is beyond me. We had all 2019 to see the requirement no matter who stayed or otherwise. Can only presume its one year to buy us time. That may not be attractive to Whelan at his age, and he might be wanting 2 yrs. We need a quality player short term who can cover for Haring and ideally play alongside him too for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: We had clowns on here telling us Don Cowie's legs had gone when he was signed but he was still our fittest player at 35. I'd wait and see before I write him off. True and me too. Time and patience is required st the same time as is over expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Tynecastle is also small. Whelans legs. Probably the best engine in the Championship last season. Fantastic powers of recovery Hope so. Time will tell mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, PapaShango said: Doesn’t want to train in Edinburgh full time and wants to spend half the week in Birmingham! Don’t think we are going to agree to that tbh Csnt see Craig agreeing to that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, PapaShango said: Doesn’t want to train in Edinburgh full time and wants to spend half the week in Birmingham! Don’t think we are going to agree to that tbh CL let’s Naisy train at home sometimes doesn’t he, knowing he’s a model pro. Maybe it’s not that far fetched, if true..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Inch Hearts said: Csnt see Craig agreeing to that tbh. May be the reason it’s not done yet and they are trying to persuade him to commit full time to staying up here. I get the feeling his family don’t want to up sticks to Edinburgh for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, PapaShango said: Doesn’t want to train in Edinburgh full time and wants to spend half the week in Birmingham! Don’t think we are going to agree to that tbh Heard similar, tbh I’d not be to fussed so long as he was here for any sessions where we work on shape and tactics. A 35yr old pro doesn’t need to be here for fitness sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, MattyK82 said: CL let’s Naisy train at home sometimes doesn’t he, knowing he’s a model pro. Maybe it’s not that far fetched, if true..? Just what I’ve heard but big difference commuting from Ayrshire to Edinburgh than Birmingham to Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: You are at it. No idea how you haven't been launched. You could say that about quite a few. The amount of ignorance on this thread, and board, is quite bewildering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Ribble said: Heard similar, tbh I’d not be to fussed so long as he was here for any sessions where we work on shape and tactics. A 35yr old pro doesn’t need to be here for fitness sessions I agree but depends on what Hearts are thinking and if it will work or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, PapaShango said: Doesn’t want to train in Edinburgh full time and wants to spend half the week in Birmingham! Don’t think we are going to agree to that tbh If true I can't see that being a goer. Creates too much bad feeling in the dressing room IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Assuming teams in the Championship can pick up free agents once the window closes I'd say it could make a huge difference to Whelan. We'll have more choice though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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