jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, martoon said: Happens all the time NB. Meshino won't burst into tears and pack and the NI players won't down tools if McPhee is emptied with Levein. It's just another bizarre, ridiculous excuse for not sacking their beloved head coach. 5 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I believe CL is far more interested in his wallet than hearts, if I’m honest. Allegedly, ‘guaranteeing’ we won’t be relegated to AB, is where recent conversations have been I understand!!! AB has got herself in a pickle with CL, for a number of reasons. The financial implications seem to be much bigger than they should for a manager with 6 month left on a contract. I think CL will see out his contract but It will be a horrible end. His reputation will be done (no half time draw return for him) with hearts, he will drag AB into needless abuse, we will have to endure some horrid football/results/relegation battle and will be left with some poor financial situations around first team due to some poor contract decisions. CL will be paid though, result for him, and still be AB’s boy. That's the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, Spoleto said: No Gin. Quoting something that isn't true is wrong. I disagree. The quotes weren’t meant in an absolutely literal sense and martoon explained it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Injuries. I accept that there are injuries. But they are being used as more of an excuse than they should be. Utter rubbish. That's what you want to believe. We were top of the league before the injuries impacted - and you know that. Edited October 13, 2019 by JamboAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, JamboAl said: Utter rubbish. That's what you want to believe. We were top of the league before the injuries impacted - and you know that. Injuries and injuries alone took us from the top of the league to the bottom of the league yeah?? Injuries have played a part sure but they cannot be solely blamed for where we find ourselves and our gradual decline over the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Terribly insulting and unnecessary post which basically calls Martoon a liar. His broad take is one that I can identify with and I reckon others could as well. Cheers. This thread is chocabloc with such ridiculous comments. Indeed, Tosh came up with a post riddled with that type of stuff a page or two back and Spoleto agreed that he was spot on. Typically, though, the latter pounces on the technicality that they're not direct quotes and claims, therefore, they're a lie. And on a thread that is actually teeming with the nonsense spouted by himself and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jake said: The guy has been trolling for the last 12 hours. Dont bite. Tweedledum and tweedledee will mark you down as a customer instead of a supporter. They will no doubt name change and start again . I was given good advice earlier mate. Dont reply to them. Clueless doesnt cover it. I have never blocked anyone but I'm close with those muppets. Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... Edited October 13, 2019 by Rudy T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Worst post on this forum. A sure sign it's was a good one. You're the worst offender, Tosh. You often agree that Levein should go then bicker with anyone who posts the same. Ever thought about taking up politics, bud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Ouch 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, rick witter said: Injuries and injuries alone took us from the top of the league to the bottom of the league yeah?? Injuries have played a part sure but they cannot be solely blamed for where we find ourselves and our gradual decline over the last year. How do you explain last seasons slump then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... I really hope that that's not the case. Would explain a lot though. I really hope no Hearts supporter (customer if you are not happy with what's going on)hasn't been reprimanded because of this. Best not replying I suppose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Utter rubbish. That's what you want to believe. We were top of the league before the injuries impacted - and you know that. Honest question. How come injuries haven't impacted our cup runs? If we are doing well in the cups with injuries, why aren't we doing better in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys are in town. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spoleto said: How do you explain last seasons slump then? Still trolling away. Some shift the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, martoon said: Cheers. This thread is chocabloc with such ridiculous comments. Indeed, Tosh came up with a post riddled with that type of stuff a page or two back and Spoleto agreed that he was spot on. Typically, though, the latter pounces on the technicality that they're not direct quotes and claims, therefore, they're a lie. And on a thread that is actually teeming with the nonsense spouted by himself and others. Best ignored mate . I like arguing on here but when posters twist and troll it's a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, jake said: The guy has been trolling for the last 12 hours. Dont bite. Tweedledum and tweedledee will mark you down as a customer instead of a supporter. They will no doubt name change and start again . I was given good advice earlier mate. Dont reply to them. Clueless doesnt cover it. I have never blocked anyone but I'm close with those muppets. Fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... Nailed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, FruitJuice said: Honest question. How come injuries haven't impacted our cup runs? If we are doing well in the cups with injuries, why aren't we doing better in the league? Who says they didn't affect our cup runs? We lost years Semi and Final, with a full squad we might have won those games and you'd be calling Levein a 🏆 winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, jake said: Best ignored mate . I like arguing on here but when posters twist and troll it's a waste of time. Sound advice, jake. Which I'll take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Worst post on this forum. Up there with wanting Hibs to win the Scottish Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I believe CL is far more interested in his wallet than hearts, if I’m honest. Allegedly, ‘guaranteeing’ we won’t be relegated to AB, is where recent conversations have been I understand!!! AB has got herself in a pickle with CL, for a number of reasons. The financial implications seem to be much bigger than they should for a manager with 6 month left on a contract. I think CL will see out his contract but It will be a horrible end. His reputation will be done (no half time draw return for him) with hearts, he will drag AB into needless abuse, we will have to endure some horrid football/results/relegation battle and will be left with some poor financial situations around first team due to some poor contract decisions. CL will be paid though, result for him, and still be AB’s boy. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Just a casual observation as your not allowed to accuse or abuse any one on the forum but Spoleto was a base for the popes Irish army in the 1800,s, the spoleto festival is celebrated by the Irish community in parts of the states, the festival runs from Hibernian Hall. Just saying and not in any way linking this to any posters on this forum.... This will be interesting..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hercules said: Up there with wanting Hibs to win the Scottish Cup. Or starting a thread "come on hibernian" Beggars belief. But hey we are all just customers hes the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So if Levein wins the League Cup (only 2 matches away) does he than classify as a winner and all is forgiven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spoleto said: So if Levein wins the League Cup (only 2 matches away) does he than classify as a winner and all is forgiven? do you go to the games at Tynecastle? Genuine question as you seem to be very pro Levein. Which of course is anybody’s choice. just interested to know if you attend Hearts games and watch his football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, FruitJuice said: Honest question. How come injuries haven't impacted our cup runs? If we are doing well in the cups with injuries, why aren't we doing better in the league? Honest answer. Last season - League Cup:we got to the semi and, after 8 minutes or so, lost Naisy It was around that time the injuries mounted up with Berra, Souttar and Uche already missing - Scottish Cup: we got a relatively easy run in the Scottish although we struggled against Partick. Haring, Souttar and Uche were able to play in the final although PH left after about an hour and we lost. This season: -we huffed and puffed in the LC as well as the league but had a decent game against 'Well when we had Halkett, Walker and Washington in the side - they're not now. Edited October 13, 2019 by JamboAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Spoleto said: How do you explain last seasons slump then? If it was only injuries to blame why did we not get better when we got our players back from injury last season? Naismith, Berra, Souttar, Haring and Uche all came back and played yet we were still poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, rick witter said: Injuries and injuries alone took us from the top of the league to the bottom of the league yeah?? Injuries have played a part sure but they cannot be solely blamed for where we find ourselves and our gradual decline over the last year. Has someone said they are solely to blame or did you just make that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, rick witter said: If it was only injuries to blame why did we not get better when we got our players back from injury last season? Naismith, Berra, Souttar, Haring and Uche all came back and played yet we were still poor. What game(s) did they all play in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, JamboAl said: Has someone said they are solely to blame or did you just make that up? Check Spoleto’s posts. 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, jake said: Or starting a thread "come on hibernian" Beggars belief. But hey we are all just customers hes the real deal. Who started a thread come on hibs? BTW, You're only a customer if you use Hearts services, not going to games and Boycotting us isn't a customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Spoleto said: So if Levein wins the League Cup (only 2 matches away) does he than classify as a winner and all is forgiven? Still want shot of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, rick witter said: Check Spoleto’s posts. 👍🏻 Can't be arsed. What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, rick witter said: Check Spoleto’s posts. 👍🏻 I tell you what. Why don't you quote me where I've said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: A lot of people in life get confused and often think the exception is the rule. CL run of form at start of last season was his exception. The rule is the utter tripe that’s been served up before and after that run. In addition to most his career. Just as bad luck happens so does good luck I guess. I'm starting to get the hang of this. If we are doing well, it is an exception but if we hit poor form through injuries etc that is the currency. Am I doing this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Still want shot of him. Now you see I find that interesting. There was another thread that set the question along the lines of What can CL do to turn things around? A reasonable question I thought. Then some posters said that there was NOTHING he could do. Didn't matter if he won the next 10 matches, won cups etc. So to me that says it's personal, nothing to do with him as a manager. I don't understand that, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Now you see I find that interesting. There was another thread that set the question along the lines of What can CL do to turn things around? A reasonable question I thought. Then some posters said that there was NOTHING he could do. Didn't matter if he won the next 10 matches, won cups etc. So to me that says it's personal, nothing to do with him as a manager. I don't understand that, do you? there is nothing that can be done to re-establish the trust, once its lost its lost forever !! this applies in all walks of life Edited October 13, 2019 by kingantti1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: No, unfortunately your not. Comprehensions your issue though. The exception is something that is not the norm. A run of good results is pretty unique in CL second stint as a manager. Pish results and underperformance are more the norm. Hence why your building your defence round an exception. Thanks for proving my point though 😂 I don't see how he has proven your point at all. The table below shows CL's win percentage in his second stint INCLUDING the recent run of bad results. I would say that it disproves your point. Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Cowdenbeath 1997 2000 127 46 26 55 36.22 Hearts 2000 2004 170 74 41 55 43.53 Leicester City 2004 2006 72 20 26 26 27.78 Raith Rovers 2006 2006 7 1 3 3 14.29 Dundee United 2006 2009 137 55 40 42 40.15 Scotland 2009 2012 24 10 5 9 41.67 Hearts 2017 present 103 42 26 35 40.78 Total 640 248 167 225 38.75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: there is nothing that can be done to re-establish the trust, once its lost its lost forever !! this applies in all walks of life Jeez. Are you being serious? CL hasn't murdered or robbed anyone - he's a football manager. I'm sorry but I really don't get where you are coming from at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, theshed said: Think it was last Thursday I said to spoleto he was doing well to still be on here and I come on tonight to see he’s been here full time all weekend.... he must have put some time and effort in this weekend Any other fans forum in the uk and he’d be long gone Tbf that's what I like about kickback. But aye some shift hes had the day . Backed up by his sidekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 With me it is personal. I hate Chraig Lhevein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: With me it is personal. I hate Chraig Lhevein. Can I ask why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: No, unfortunately your not. Comprehensions your issue though. The exception is something that is not the norm. A run of good results is pretty unique in CL second stint as a manager. Pish results and underperformance are more the norm. Hence why your building your defence round an exception. Thanks for proving my point though 😂 I'm not building a defence but merely stating facts. Your 1st paragraph suggests that English is not your strong point. I would agree with your definition of "exception" if the poor form had come somewhere, say mid-season, if we started off not so well, then had a good run followed by a bad run. When however we started off well for the 1st 3 months or so and then hit the buffers, with injury being a major contributory factor, then I would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If this Spoleto ***** is annoying you all so much then stop engaging with the ****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Bed time. Fight the good fight Spoleto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: 😂 that’s pish record to be honest. His latest spell he is as successful as Tommy Wright at st Johnstone with 40%. Granted Tommy Wright won a trophy. He’s that shite, he’s less successful than tommy wright at management statically speaking. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Wright_(footballer,_born_1963) Now I would have said that TW has a good record, he's punched above his weight (difficult to do) at StJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Bed time. Fight the good fight Spoleto. 🤣 The good fight. 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Bed time. Fight the good fight Spoleto. Night Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, smiler said: If this Spoleto ***** is annoying you all so much then stop engaging with the ****er. It looks like your keyboard is broken, the * key is stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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