Dalstonjambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Captain America said: Last game of 2014/2015 Championship season, they moved our game against Rangers to a different day IIRC then had to move it back due to outcry. Was that not because rangers and hibs playing at different times had connotations for playoff positions not due to fan/security issues? that’s pretty different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45723291 Looking at the photo on the BBC report (about the police intervention) reminds me why I'd rather be behind the goal at Murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmeikle Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Hearts v Celtic and Rangers v Aberdeen Betfred Cup semi-finals could BOTH be moved as Murrayfield may host Jambos against Hoopshttps://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3292422/hearts-celtic-rangers-aberdeen-betfred-semi-finals/ Edited October 2, 2018 by bmeikle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Absolutely NO chance Celtic will play Hearts in Edinburgh! I dunno, they can't exactly claim playing in Edinburgh gives Hearts an unfair advantage but playing in Glasgow is neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy the jambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bainy said: would imagine we would sell out a hefty number of tickets for this. If it’s priced right,Nothing to stop 20,000/25,000 Jambo’s turning up? Hopefully the team will get the support it needs ,A few good results in the league over the next couple of weeks will certainly help. Edited October 2, 2018 by jimmy the jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Celtic and their greetin fans would go bat shit if we played at murrayfield with this ‘home field’ advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan14 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, jimmy the jambo said: If it’s priced right,Nothing to stop 20,000/25,000 Jambo’s turning up? Hopefully the team will get the support it needs ,A few good results in the league over the next couple of weeks will certainly help. 30000 hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Sexton Hardcastle said: Celtic and their greetin fans would go bat shit if we played at murrayfield with this ‘home field’ advantage. some of the replies to the Keith Jackson tweet have already confirmed this " its no fair " ? forgetting they have played every domestic Cup Semi Final in Glasgow for the last 120 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatsd Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Did Brendan not come out with something along the lines of the Sunday evening game being no problem and they would just get on with it? If so it will be interesting to hear if he has the same no problem attitude if it gets changed! I would be pleasantly surprised if this does get changed to Murrayfield. Certainly gives us more of an advantage and also gives me the perfect excuse for not doing the Jedburgh half marathon that morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the light Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, magicTs said: I should have added that should this be changed Doncaster's position would be completely untenable given the huge waste of time, resources (therefore money) that everyone has encountered. The man and his cohorts are totally unfit for purpose and there is no way he should survive such a shambles. Don’t bank on it. The guy’s neck is made of solid brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Won't need my map to find Hampden after all. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/scottish-cup/aidan-smith-when-dundee-wrestled-with-the-two-headed-cup-tie-and-won-1-4807230/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, thegreatsd said: Did Brendan not come out with something along the lines of the Sunday evening game being no problem and they would just get on with it? If so it will be interesting to hear if he has the same no problem attitude if it gets changed! I would be pleasantly surprised if this does get changed to Murrayfield. Certainly gives us more of an advantage and also gives me the perfect excuse for not doing the Jedburgh half marathon that morning! Early kick off is even less time for them to prepare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartin1987 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Would love to see this at murrayfield but I think the sfa will find a way to have both games at hampden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 While this is not a home game for us it does, sort of, reflect how the draw happened. I think the teams came out of the hat, Hearts, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen. So if we play at Murrayfield it's a little bit more like the order of the draw. Just a completely useless observation. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Won't need my map to find Hampden after all. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/scottish-cup/aidan-smith-when-dundee-wrestled-with-the-two-headed-cup-tie-and-won-1-4807230/amp What is it with you and Hibernian related content these days? Beginning to worry about you Mikey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, smartin1987 said: Would love to see this at murrayfield but I think the sfa will find a way to have both games at hampden Would guess it’s far more likely they pull the Celtic Hearts game on November 3rd and have the semifinal that weekend than having it on the 28th in Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dalstonjambo said: I completely get that. I took issue as i was called foolish. My admittedly long shot question around compensation was the fact the fixtures were officially confirmed, hence this is an exceptional circumstance. Re cost, it’s still in the hundreds, as are all short notice games. As i said before i have no problem with short notice confirmation and i’m in the minority living so far away and attending so many games, but the point i’m taking issue with from another poster is calling me foolish for booking to attend a game that was announced as confirmed, outcry or not. I hear you mate, hopefully if it is changed(which I think will happen) you do get compensated for your outlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, N Lincs Jambo said: I think both Hearts and Aberdeen should take 25,000 tickets each and then refuse to sell them rather than take no tickets at all. If we take no tickets both the OF will end up with 50K fans in the ground. One end full and the other end empty at both games with live TV coverage would be the ultimate embarrassment for Doncaster. Fwiw I think we will take 25K tickets and sell 10K max, same with the sheep. It's the wee cup I can't see The Rangers and Celtic selling that many tickets. The Rangers fans will be more enthusiastic because it's a chance to win their first trophy Celtic fans will be quite apathetic I believe. Reference the 2012 SC semi for Celtic likely attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I land in Edinburgh at 1pm so it had better not be a noon kickoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 SPFL shamed into submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Good thing we're all in agreement that Murrayfield is superb as a football stadium... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: I hear you mate, hopefully if it is changed(which I think will happen) you do get compensated for your outlay. Tbh i’d rather Just find out where the game is being played first so i can make sure i’m there and worry about the other stuff later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45723291 Celtic-Hearts could shift to Murrayfield as Scottish League Cup faces shake-up This month's Scottish League Cup semi-final arrangements could be changed - with one heading to Edinburgh - amid criticism of the original plans. The Scottish Professional Football league is considering moving Hearts' meeting with Celtic to Murrayfield on Sunday afternoon, 28 October. Rangers and Aberdeen would still meet at Hampden - but in late afternoon. Police Scotland had earlier asked for further talks about the plan to hold both at Hampden that day. Aberdeen are scheduled to meet Rangers at noon, with Celtic playing Hearts at 19.45 BST. Scottish Police Federation's general secretary had called the timings "idiotic" and that was followed by Assistant Chief Constable Bernie Higgins calling for a rethink on transport plans and negotiations on other concerns surrounding the ties. "We're aware of issues and concerns that have been raised over the last few days about the date and venue of the League Cup semi-finals," Higgins said. "As a responsible organisation and taking into account these public concerns, I think it sensible to discuss the issues raised with the SPFL and other stakeholders and I have asked the SPFL to look again at the transport plan so we can make a full public safety assessment." The ties were originally planed for October 27 and 28, but the Saturday was ruled out since Rangers and Celtic are in Europa League action on the Thursday. Following a meeting with all four clubs, the SPFL announced that hosting both matches on Sunday was the only solution, due to lack of flexibility with fixtures and a contractual obligation to use the national stadium in Glasgow. Aberdeen and Hearts condemned the decision, citing the problems fans would have travelling. Hearts owner Ann Budge expressed safety concerns, saying the plan was "almost a disaster waiting to happen". And Scottish Police Federation general secretary Calum Steele told BBC Scotland that "the police service is going to be run ragged". 'Public order paramount' The issue was raised at Holyrood, with MSPs saying the plans had been "botched" and displayed a "disregard" for fans and a "lack of consideration for families". Sports minister Joe Fitzpatrick told MSPs that there was "anger" among fans, saying he hoped that the SPFL would "listen" and "reach the appropriate outcome". He said: "Discussions are continuing and I understand that Police Scotland has asked the SPFL to review its plans and has sought assurance around public safety. I know that will be welcomed by many fans. "Police Scotland will review further information and discuss any issues further with the SPFL. It's vital that public order and safety remain paramount in any decision going forward. I would also ask the SPFL to make sure they are considering the fans and the interests of Scottish football in any decision." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It's coming home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874_and_proud Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Common sense, surely not.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kid Creole said: some of the replies to the Keith Jackson tweet have already confirmed this " its no fair " ? forgetting they have played every domestic Cup Semi Final in Glasgow for the last 120 years Don't forget that Celtic moved to Hampden for an entire season while Parkhead was being redeveloped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Dalstonjambo said: Not that i’m normally a hysterical letter writer, but we have - train London to Glasgow (Sunday lunchtime) - hotel in Glasgow (Sunday night) - flight Glasgow to London (Monday morning) all booked. If these are non refundable anyone know where I stand on discussing compensation with the SPFL as the kick off time was confirmed? I’m guessing I’ve got no chance but if it’s moved is worth a shot. Can you not get to Stansted early on the Sunday if the game is shifted to Murrayfield at noon? Flights for under £20 one way then train through to Glasgow after the game, wee night out in the weege and your original hotel and return flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam? Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Hackney Hearts said: And I know it's not the first or last time a journalist will have contradicted himself in one sentence. Now I do agree with that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Celtic and their greetin fans would go bat shit if we played at murrayfield with this ‘home field’ advantage. The ones at my work (in Glasgow) are quite happy for it to be played at Murrayfield. A couple even thought playing it on Saturday night would be better than the current plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Really can't see this being moved to Edinburgh. Far more likely to stay in Glasgow but a different weekend. Contracts & all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Pennywise said: Really can't see this being moved to Edinburgh. Far more likely to stay in Glasgow but a different weekend. Contracts & all that. Sounds very much like one of the Semi's will now be at Murrayfield. Lot of seethe from Celtic fans already. Gives us the best possible chance to win the match if we can now sell out half of one ground. Great news if it goes ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 There is absolutley no chance that our game will be played at Murrayfield. The embarrasment that would cause Doncaster and the SPFL would be too much for them to bear. Can you imagine the uproar from Celtic fans trying to claim that this would be home advantage for us. They all have short memories considering they used Hampden while their own stadium was being redeveloped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 1m1 minute ago The SPFL are (finally) able to get out of the contract stating both Betfred Cup semi-finals must take place at Hampden. Provided all parties can agree, Hearts v Celtic is in line to move to Murrayfield. Date and kick-off time TBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Lambo85 said: There is absolutley no chance that our game will be played at Murrayfield. The embarrasment that would cause Doncaster and the SPFL would be too much for them to bear. Can you imagine the uproar from Celtic fans trying to claim that this would be home advantage for us. They all have short memories considering they used Hampden while their own stadium was being redeveloped. Looks like it is happening chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 SPFL statement : https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-exploring-betfred-semi-final-switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Mort said: Sounds very much like one of the Semi's will now be at Murrayfield. Lot of seethe from Celtic fans already. Gives us the best possible chance to win the match if we can now sell out half of one ground. Great news if it goes ahead. I panicked and booked a travel lodge for the Sunday night as well ? Hope it's Murrayfield, makes sense. Could try get my old seat back ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think the SFA would rather drink poison than have the game in Edinburgh, so I suspect this won’t happen. It should though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, graygo said: Can you not get to Stansted early on the Sunday if the game is shifted to Murrayfield at noon? Flights for under £20 one way then train through to Glasgow after the game, wee night out in the weege and your original hotel and return flight. Appreciate it mate. I will work it out. Also fortunate enough to have some airmiles so BA reward flight up to Edinburgh from Heathrow is another option. Doesn’t change my original point though, i booked it because the competition organisers confirmed the kick off time and location. ***** Shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Struggling to see what ‘home’ advantage we would have in terms of the playing side. Souttar and Smith are the only two players that spring to mind that played the games there last season (possibly Djoum if he wasn’t injured and a couple of youngsters?). They probably have as many players left in their current squad that played in their European game there. Hopefully we can sell enough tickets to justify getting half the ground. Only having half the West stand (running track) and behind goal with them getting the full East (smaller) stand round to the other half of West would be close to a home game for them. 25,000+ ideally. Edited October 2, 2018 by Gorgie_Rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, neilnunb said: The ones at my work (in Glasgow) are quite happy for it to be played at Murrayfield. A couple even thought playing it on Saturday night would be better than the current plan. Are you their carer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Gorgie_Rules said: Struggling to see what ‘home’ advantage we would have in terms of the playing side. Souttar and Smith are the only two players that spring to mind that played the games there last season (possibly Djoum if he wasn’t injured and a couple of youngsters?). They probably have as many players left in their current squad that played in their European game there. Hopefully we can sell enough tickets to justify getting half the ground. Only having half the West stand (running track) and behind goal with them getting the full East (smaller) stand round to the other half of West would be close to a home game for them. 25,000+ ideally. It's "unfair" because it's in Edinburgh, so more Hearts fans will be there. Because Celtic of course never get a chance to play semis or finals in Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Mort said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 1m1 minute ago The SPFL are (finally) able to get out of the contract stating both Betfred Cup semi-finals must take place at Hampden. Provided all parties can agree, Hearts v Celtic is in line to move to Murrayfield. Date and kick-off time TBC. A bit of a surprise if true. But a welcome surprise. Sadly, this hasn't been brought about by common-sense on the part of the SPFL - people in power have had to be forced into the change instead of doing it out of their own volition for the good of the game. Can't help but feel that pressure for change is still needed in the longer term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, jambovambo said: SPFL statement : https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-exploring-betfred-semi-final-switch What a lot of embarrassing shite. Reads like “Blame everyone else, we never thought this was a good idea”. Get that Doncaster to ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalry Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 After reading Doncaster’s comments it looks highly likely they will move the game to Murrayfield. Massive Hearts army predicted! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Brendan will be relieved. Hearts will no longer have the clear advantage of playing on a surface that's been destroyed in the previous match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 And as if my magic, they can "Get out of the contract". Doncaster is just a complete triangle faced liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldreekie1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mort said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 1m1 minute ago The SPFL are (finally) able to get out of the contract stating both Betfred Cup semi-finals must take place at Hampden. Provided all parties can agree, Hearts v Celtic is in line to move to Murrayfield. Date and kick-off time TBC. Set in Stone. Oh, Barry. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mort said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 1m1 minute ago The SPFL are (finally) able to get out of the contract stating both Betfred Cup semi-finals must take place at Hampden. Provided all parties can agree, Hearts v Celtic is in line to move to Murrayfield. Date and kick-off time TBC. The contract apparently says ‘unless the police say they can’t’, and today the police federation has been calling the decision ‘idiotic’ and the ACC calling for a rethink. So I guess they can’t use that as an excuse any more. You really do weep for football in this country when you think that they actually held a meeting, at which they concluded that having both games at Hampden on the same day was not only a viable idea, but the best one available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiehmfc Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 From the SPFL "statement" it looks like it will be moved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Its amazing that the SPFL can now seem to get out of the contract? Doncaster stated that they had exhausted all solutions and the ONLY one was to play both on the same day,and suddenly it seems not (although will wait and see). If it does happen, it shows Doncaster to be a total liar,and show no consideration for anyone except the Old Firm. He just supposed that we would all except the ruling, mumble a bit and move on, but it seems he misjudged. No matter what happens, he must resign as he is a total puppet of the Old firm, and his position is now untenable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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