Bazzas right boot Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Stokesy said: Apparently a standard patrol shift on a horse is 3 hours. Not sure if that's regulatory or best practice. http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/featured-articles/a-day-in-the-life-mounted-unit Neighhhh way, that's half a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: BBC says that Aberdeen are expecting 50% of the available tickets - no mention in the article of yesterday's meeting though so it's not clear if Fraser was speaking after/before going into it, and no word from Ann Budge yet... The final quote implies that Aberdeen & Hearts are still fighting, and nothing is set in stone yet https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45713971 This was taken from his interview on Sportsound last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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graygo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Hope nobody has made travel arrangements for the game being at Hamden on the Sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I do hope at the next Hearts v Aberdeen league match at Tynecastle, Doncaster is invited along by two of the clubs he represents ( allegedly) as a guest , might be a nice idea to get him to do the half time draw too. I'm sure he'd appreciate the atmosphere being it will be very vociferous and he'd enjoy his name being sung by all 4 stands . Had a retired police officer in the cab last night and he's convinced it'll be changed, they're just waiting on , as he called it, an escape route for Doncaster and the spfl not losing face , in other words being told by the police or politicians to move the kick off times . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 hours ago, ToadKiller Dog said: He is the media spokesman for the SFA I think, so the tactic from the blazers is to attack the clubs if that's what he is saying?. They clearly have somthing to hide with this Hampden deal. He's not. He used to be the head of communications at the SFA but now works at Frame PR. I worked with him there. Frame's office is 2 mins from the BBC which helps with his regular appearances on the 6:30 sportsound debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: I find that quite amusing basically sums up any work place. Bosses saying aye no worries we can do this but inevitably it’s not the bosses that’s going to be policing the day at Hampden. Spot on. Tick it off as another example of Good Leadership and wait for the bonus cheque to appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gershwin said: He's not. He used to be the head of communications at the SFA but now works at Frame PR. I worked with him there. Frame's office is 2 mins from the BBC which helps with his regular appearances on the 6:30 sportsound debate. Correct, except he's a partner, not just an employee. However, Frame PR are contracted by the SFA to make them look good, so he is in effect being paid to support our football authorities whether directly employed or not. His view can't be trusted to be balanced and impartial when he's paid to be on the SFA's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: Can't believe that we can't do pre orders tho or get food delivered to the seat. Plenty apps now that would aid this. Easy money and would reduce the queues at ht. A killing to be made by Deliveroo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, CornhillHearts said: Interesting that there has been complete silence from everyone involved in this farce following yesterday's meeting about "ticketing". I wonder if there is a climb down and rescheduling in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Smithee said: Correct, except he's a partner, not just an employee. However, Frame PR are contracted by the SFA to make them look good, so he is in effect being paid to support our football authorities whether directly employed or not. His view can't be trusted to be balanced and impartial when he's paid to be on the SFA's side. I listened to this total throbber last night He was trotting out the " people say one thing in a meeting then come out and say the immediate opposite" he basically accused the Aberdeen and Hearts reps of lying Both Hearts and Aberdeen have been unequivocal in their statements- that they were angry and made that clear at the meeting Now they are being accused of being liars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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...a bit disco Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 11m11 minutes ago Barry Anderson Retweeted Grandfather Flump I'm told the Betfred Cup semis are set in stone and are unlikely to change now. Ticket allocations are being finalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 No chance this will be changed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 They don't care. The Celtic fans will be there in numbers because its in their back yard, and any seats we don't sell will be recycled to them, The match will still be on TV, lots of young fans will miss out- but "only " Hearts fans. In a few weeks after the match it will all have blown over and we can all carry on being shat on If we lose the game they have the result they want anyway, If we win the game we will stop moaning because we won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: They don't care. The Celtic fans will be there in numbers because its in their back yard, and any seats we don't sell will be recycled to them, The match will still be on TV, lots of young fans will miss out- but "only " Hearts fans. In a few weeks after the match it will all have blown over and we can all carry on being shat on If we lose the game they have the result they want anyway, If we win the game we will stop moaning because we won Beginning to hope that there is complete mayhem on the streets of Glasgow and that Hampden is trashed in the first game so badly that our game can't go ahead. If that happens all of the buffoons responsible for allowing this madness to happen can be forced from office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Deevers said: Beginning to hope that there is complete mayhem on the streets of Glasgow and that Hampden is trashed in the first game so badly that our game can't go ahead. If that happens all of the buffoons responsible for allowing this madness to happen can be forced from office. how do you force lawell from celtic, donkey's only the puppet, lawell has taken over from murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 11m11 minutes ago Barry Anderson Retweeted Grandfather Flump I'm told the Betfred Cup semis are set in stone and are unlikely to change now. Ticket allocations are being finalised. That’ll be that then. Let’s just wait for the shocking allocation and massive prices to put the rest off going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 11m11 minutes ago Barry Anderson Retweeted Grandfather Flump I'm told the Betfred Cup semis are set in stone and are unlikely to change now. Ticket allocations are being finalised. "Unlikely to change" is not the same as set in stone. Poor wording from a "journalist". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Deevers said: Beginning to hope that there is complete mayhem on the streets of Glasgow and that Hampden is trashed in the first game so badly that our game can't go ahead. If that happens all of the buffoons responsible for allowing this madness to happen can be forced from office. Aberdeen vs Rangers to go to extra time then penalties. Rangers winning followed by their fans hanging about outside waiting for Celtic fans to start arriving in pubs and on buses There isn't much lee-way in the timings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Hackney Hearts said: "Unlikely to change" is not the same as set in stone. Poor wording from a "journalist". Not really Anything is possible so leaving it open is fair comment Scotrail strike or Police horse illness for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Drumjambo said: What these F****** clowns fail to remember is the reason they are travelling to games at 12.00 on a saturday A they are getting most of the TV money by getting all their away games televised B their fans can't behave after a few shandys come 3 oclock As for Scott McDonalds claim of Hampden to Edinburgh in 45 mins after a game - Ignorant aussie ****** Clearly never spent an hour and a half trying to get out of Hampden after a big game, plus obviously does not realise that Sunday service travel is far more limited than any other day. If this game has injury time, goes to extra time, goes to penalties there is a chance it could be almost 11pm before you get out of the stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Not really Anything is possible so leaving it open is fair comment The phrase 'set in stone' means nothing will change. He can't then say 'unlikely to change', he has to say 'won't change'. He could alternatively have said "it's pretty much set in stone and unlikely to change". I'm complaining about his use of language, not the reality of the situation, whatever that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Aberdeen vs Rangers to go to extra time then penalties. Rangers winning followed by their fans hanging about outside waiting for Celtic fans to start arriving in pubs and on buses There isn't much lee-way in the timings Or pens and Aberdeen win. The rangers fans decide to have some over exhuberance and destroy the pitch, seats etc. Then they go looking for the Celtic fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The topical questions are scheduled for 2:35pm onwards in the Scottish Parly today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Banderson knows as much as us. That useless rag hasnn't been in the know for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, Deevers said: Beginning to hope that there is complete mayhem on the streets of Glasgow and that Hampden is trashed in the first game so badly that our game can't go ahead. If that happens all of the buffoons responsible for allowing this madness to happen can be forced from office. Please don’t do anything so bad that you get arrested and by default tarnish the name of Heart of Midlothian! It would be sad if thousands of Hearts fans book travel only to find they have wasted their money because the game is cancelled at short notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 If just ONE of the many possible scenarios results in our game not being able to proceed, presumably the football authorities will cancel this seasons LC tournament, given their sentiments that any other date and/or venue is 'impossible'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, luckydug said: Senior officers seem to have agreed this without consulting with the folk who actually have to do the dirty work. It's the usual story of some fat cat in a top job sat behind a desk making decisions for other people to do the job while he sits at home with his feet up. That's my job! I draw the line at feet up though, just too disrespectful but I do get a pedicure at 1 each day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: If just ONE of the many possible scenarios results in our game not being able to proceed, presumably the football authorities will cancel this seasons LC tournament, given their sentiments that any other date and/or venue is 'impossible'? I've been thinking the same since that clown opened his mouth. Neil "Rainman" Doncaster has a nice ring to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam? Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: "Unlikely to change" is not the same as set in stone. Poor wording from a "journalist". Its twitter mate; not English A-level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Is this kick off set in concrete yet Planning my route now would be good, although ****ing long Brussels - Amsterdam bus 02:00 Sunday morning Amsters - Edinburgh 09:00 Train to Glasgow TBC Walk back to Edinburgh Sunday night for 08:00 flight back Monday morning Wasn't going to do this, but just can't miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Different Class Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Not really Anything is possible so leaving it open is fair comment Scotrail strike or Police horse illness for example Police horses should seriously consider going on strike themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: If just ONE of the many possible scenarios results in our game not being able to proceed, presumably the football authorities will cancel this seasons LC tournament, given their sentiments that any other date and/or venue is 'impossible'? Nah, they will just chuck us out the competition and have a Sevco v Celtic final that they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: My flume idea would solve the waiting problem. At the end, folk can just fire down a flume on to the street. It actually is a rather tedious wait, however it doesn't go more than around ten minutes, folk claiming 20 minutes plus must be crawling. This will be solved in due course tho. Can't believe that we can't do pre orders tho or get food delivered to the seat. Plenty apps now that would aid this. Easy money and would reduce the queues at ht. Ffs, it jumped threads again. I blame the adverts, pissing me off. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Banderson has taken that Tweet as a leading question. Nobody is going to say it will change until it does, if you promised it, or even hinted at it, you would get slaughtered and rightly so. Maybe more in hope than expectation, I can not see anyone going through with this plan. The Hoo-Ha that has occurred, can you imagine if anything does go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: Is this kick off set in concrete yet Planning my route now would be good, although ****ing long Brussels - Amsterdam bus 02:00 Sunday morning Amsters - Edinburgh 09:00 Train to Glasgow TBC Walk back to Edinburgh Sunday night for 08:00 flight back Monday morning Wasn't going to do this, but just can't miss it Now that's commitment. But **** sake none of us can really use the excuse we might be home late now ? Edited October 2, 2018 by TheStig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: Is this kick off set in concrete yet Planning my route now would be good, although ****ing long Brussels - Amsterdam bus 02:00 Sunday morning Amsters - Edinburgh 09:00 Train to Glasgow TBC Walk back to Edinburgh Sunday night for 08:00 flight back Monday morning Wasn't going to do this, but just can't miss it Well done mate, that’s a great effort. Now for for the big question, how on earth will the plans go for that epic trip from Hamilton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: Well done mate, that’s a great effort. Now for for the big question, how on earth will the plans go for that epic trip from Hamilton? **** Hamilton, full of Iraqis To add to all this, I have 3 Hearts mates coming for a Molenbeek game Saturday night, so I am guessing it will be Beer-Match-Beer-Bus Poor planning on their part and they will be stuck in Brussels on the Sunday watching the game as their flights are returning to Edinburgh Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Banderson has taken that Tweet as a leading question. Nobody is going to say it will change until it does, if you promised it, or even hinted at it, you would get slaughtered and rightly so. Maybe more in hope than expectation, I can not see anyone going through with this plan. The Hoo-Ha that has occurred, can you imagine if anything does go wrong? The thing is, given the public outcry, if say a young fan gets stabbe or say damage due to fights or the police force have injuries, casualties - the SFA might well get sued as there is plenty evidence to suggest it's a bad idea and there are safer alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ...a bit disco said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ 11m11 minutes ago Barry Anderson Retweeted Grandfather Flump I'm told the Betfred Cup semis are set in stone and are unlikely to change now. Ticket allocations are being finalised. If this ends up being correct, and the current plan is forced through, I see no other option than for some kind of action by Hearts, Aberdeen, and fans of teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm. I'm a sanguine kind of guy, and tend to just roll with things, but the way that the SPFL made a misleading statement about the suitability of this plan for all clubs, have invoked an early 1990's agreement to make the plan contractually the only option, and treated their member clubs and supporters with such disdain, has completely convinced me that we, as supporters, will have to do something. We have one opportunity, and it's fortuitous that it's Hearts and Aberdeen that have been on the receiving end together. Maybe we should agree along with Aberdeen fans not to enter Hampden until 14 minutes into the respective matches to mark the time that the first train would get into Queen Street after kick-off for their game. I don't know. But I'm convinced if we do nothing at this moment, we're condemning ourselves, our future supporters, and all clubs outside of the Old Firm, to more of the same. for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire-jambo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, JALBO said: If this ends up being correct, and the current plan is forced through, I see no other option than for some kind of action by Hearts, Aberdeen, and fans of teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm. I'm a sanguine kind of guy, and tend to just roll with things, but the way that the SPFL made a misleading statement about the suitability of this plan for all clubs, have invoked an early 1990's agreement to make the plan contractually the only option, and treated their member clubs and supporters with such disdain, has completely convinced me that we, as supporters, will have to do something. We have one opportunity, and it's fortuitous that it's Hearts and Aberdeen that have been on the receiving end together. Maybe we should agree along with Aberdeen fans not to enter Hampden until 14 minutes into the respective matches to mark the time that the first train would get into Queen Street after kick-off for their game. I don't know. But I'm convinced if we do nothing at this moment, we're condemning ourselves, our future supporters, and all clubs outside of the Old Firm, to more of the same. for years to come. We have to do something and I hope fans of all clubs in Scotland will stand with Hearts & Aberdeen. Maybe clubs could have a banner on the 27th at their games showing support for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Jammy T said: What the **** is the difference between the Police Federation and the Police? How can one of them say the decision is a load of pish and the other day it’s all fine and dandy? ? how can a grown adult struggle to work out what the word Federation means ?!!? Lordy, some admission!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 33 minutes ago, JALBO said: If this ends up being correct, and the current plan is forced through, I see no other option than for some kind of action by Hearts, Aberdeen, and fans of teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm. I'm a sanguine kind of guy, and tend to just roll with things, but the way that the SPFL made a misleading statement about the suitability of this plan for all clubs, have invoked an early 1990's agreement to make the plan contractually the only option, and treated their member clubs and supporters with such disdain, has completely convinced me that we, as supporters, will have to do something. We have one opportunity, and it's fortuitous that it's Hearts and Aberdeen that have been on the receiving end together. Maybe we should agree along with Aberdeen fans not to enter Hampden until 14 minutes into the respective matches to mark the time that the first train would get into Queen Street after kick-off for their game. I don't know. But I'm convinced if we do nothing at this moment, we're condemning ourselves, our future supporters, and all clubs outside of the Old Firm, to more of the same. for years to come. I agree this is a crossroads. Let it pass and you will forever be taken for a mug. Why we should take no tickets nor Aberdeen. Sometimes sacrifices need to be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Jammy T said: What the **** is the difference between the Police Federation and the Police? How can one of them say the decision is a load of pish and the other day it’s all fine and dandy? Police federation is the police version of "trade union". They represent the rank and file officers who are the ones going to have to do massive amounts of overtime,and potentially put themselves at risk, over the decision of the Chief Constable, who will no doubt be enjoying the SPFL hospitality for being a yes man !! Only in Scotland. Listened to the PF guy on sportsound last night, he could not have condemned the decision in any stronger terms than he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I don't think our support will be the problem. I have however grave concerns about what will happen in the event of Aberdeen winnin. Even worse if they win after extra time and penalties. Madness having all four teams in the city playing at one venue even with a few hours between. I pretty sure there will be damage to the seating after the first game. That's almost a given. If large swathes of it are damaged and Is unuseable it creates a health and safety issue and there would be no way of playing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministry of Football Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I agree this is a crossroads. Let it pass and you will forever be taken for a mug. Why we should take no tickets nor Aberdeen. Sometimes sacrifices need to be made This is the only solution to permanently fix the problem. If no one goes, they will not do it to another club again and Doncaster will have to step down. Not going if it is on the Sunday night. We need to stand as one on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Its taking a long time to sort out these allocations. Each club initially gets 50% of the available tickets for their game. Job done!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, reaths17 said: how do you force lawell from celtic, donkey's only the puppet, lawell has taken over from murray That's becoming ever more obvious. Though you would have to question why Celtic would be publicly against the proposal but Lawell would be pushing it on in private. Edited October 2, 2018 by Deevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ministry of Football said: This is the only solution to permanently fix the problem. If no one goes, they will not do it to another club again and Doncaster will have to step down. Not going if it is on the Sunday night. We need to stand as one on this. I think no move on date the club's should both take that stance. Yes we need to play the game but if it's purely to suit 2 of the protagonists then you have to be strong enough to believe what we are doing is for the bigger picture and a better future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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