All Out Attack Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 My two bought. This does not mean it is a vindication of Levein in any way shape or form. This man and his negative mindset needs to go... ASAP. Pretty good figures to be fair. Perhaps down, but the sales could be interpreted in many ways. Plenty time yet to sell more. I suspect there will be a bit of a rush with those changing seat for a week or so, then settle into a slow drip. Predicting 13,000 which would be disappointing and bring an end to our upward attendance direction. The resilience of our support never fails to amaze me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Ramrod, it's how many are sold by the start of the season that's key. I think they will sell more than us. That's all. I don't , over and out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Ramrod, it's how many are sold by the start of the season that's key. I think they will sell more than us. That's all. Have you ever posted something positive about Hearts on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Flappers will flap, moaners will moan. Real fans, where circumstances permit, will always renew, because it's in our blood. We are not some fad. We are the heart and soul of Edinburgh. Note that I stated where circumstances permit. And to end. Well said that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10,000 of you have put a real spring in my step. Well done to all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said: And how about a win on Sunday too?! That would help as well I was thinking last home game v hibs it's a great way to send most folk away happy . That's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Holidays Dave ! Isn't it one big holiday these days ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, All Out Attack said: My two bought. This does not mean it is a vindication of Levein in any way shape or form. This man and his negative mindset needs to go... ASAP. Pretty good figures to be fair. Perhaps down, but the sales could be interpreted in many ways. Plenty time yet to sell more. I suspect there will be a bit of a rush with those changing seat for a week or so, then settle into a slow drip. Predicting 13,000 which would be disappointing and bring an end to our upward attendance direction. The resilience of our support never fails to amaze me though. Could say the same about your negative mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, frankblack said: Have you ever posted something positive about Hearts on here? To answer your question with brevity....Yes. Have you ever criticised anything Craig Levein has done as manager, setting aside his DOF mistakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Our playing budget will still be bigger than last year. A lot of people's season tickets in the mainstand took a £70 rise. We get more tv money next season to. Looking forward to some good players coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Our playing budget will still be bigger than last year. A lot of people's season tickets in the mainstand took a £70 rise. We get more tv money next season to. Looking forward to some good players coming in. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Our playing budget will still be bigger than last year. A lot of people's season tickets in the mainstand took a £70 rise. We get more tv money next season to. Looking forward to some good players coming in. Truly abhorrent rises according to one of our more attack minded posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: To answer your question with brevity....Yes. Have you ever criticised anything Craig Levein has done as manager, setting aside his DOF mistakes? It seems to me you have been cheerleading for the vermin all season. Even since the sales figures came out today you are still scraping the barrel looking for negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Honestly, there should be a sub forum on Kickback titled 'Proof that Kickback knows **** all', and this could be it's inaugural thread. Kinda like The Classics, but with the aim of illustrating how the greetin faced doom mongers on here know the square root of hee haw about what goes on ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loorimer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Might be a daft question, but is the renewal process on hold just now for moving, or, can I go down tomorrow and renew my 3 tickets in the original seats (if still available)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Real fans go come what may thick and thin and are not always happy clapping. They realise a club like ours have ups and very often downs. But they won't spit the dummy and get the toys out of the pram. They will realise that the nature of football not paying makes their dreams that bit less likely. But most of all they have one of the greatest of human qualities. Loyalty. Not to mention a bit of courage to stand proud when shite gets spouted Brilliant post. It might hurt a few folk that sales are stable but other than some very odd characters who get their jollies from dissing the club and employees we have a terrifically loyal fanbase who have seen us through he bad times and hopefully get to celebrate the good times we deserve very soon. ??????????????? And FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I’m Pro-Hearts, Pro-Levein and Anti-shite. Isn’t 10,000 renewals a bit disappointing, so far, compared to last year’s total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambog Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Loorimer said: Might be a daft question, but is the renewal process on hold just now for moving, or, can I go down tomorrow and renew my 3 tickets in the original seats (if still available)? Was in today moving my seats. There was a guy in front of me who had forgot to apply before the deadline. His seat was still available and they let him renew ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 It's riveting reading everyone's individual reason's for renewing, all 10'000 of them. Pro tip - Nobody gives a toss. Do it or don't, nobody care's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loorimer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, jambog said: Was in today moving my seats. There was a guy in front of me who had forgot to apply before the deadline. His seat was still available and they let him renew ok Nice one, cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, frankblack said: It seems to me you have been cheerleading for the vermin all season. Even since the sales figures came out today you are still scraping the barrel looking for negatives. The JKB Kangaroo Court swings into action. Not guilty m"lud. As a fully grown adult, I can acknowledge when other teams, even local rivals, have a good season. "Vermin"?? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 With just over 10,000 sold there will be around 5,400 seats still available when the general sale starts next week. That figure may be higher depending whether or not hospitality STs are included. With that sort of number still available and little time pressure on purchasing a seat, I don't think there will any significant and immediate take up of seats other than those in prime locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: With just over 10,000 sold there will be around 5,400 seats still available when the general sale starts next week. That figure may be higher depending whether or not hospitality STs are included. With that sort of number still available and little time pressure on purchasing a seat, I don't think there will any significant and immediate take up of seats other than those in prime locations. When someone from the club spoke to us in the queue this morning he said they had "reconfigured" hospitality in the main stand. So might be worth checking early next Thursday to see what is available. I do think there will be good sales early in general sale period. You have 'new' buyers and those who forgot / let deadline pass of whom I believe there is a good number. I expect us to get to 13,000 comfortably though still around 1,000 down. Edited May 3, 2018 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: With just over 10,000 sold there will be around 5,400 seats still available when the general sale starts next week. That figure may be higher depending whether or not hospitality STs are included. With that sort of number still available and little time pressure on purchasing a seat, I don't think there will any significant and immediate take up of seats other than those in prime locations. It's probably not quite the same point, but I'm not sure hospitality passes are on sale yet. I can't see anything on the club website suggesting otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: I’m Pro-Hearts, Pro-Levein and Anti-shite. Isn’t 10,000 renewals a bit disappointing, so far, compared to last year’s total? No I’d say its a pretty decent place to be as the tickets came out earlier. People will have budgeted for later in the year. Maybe one payday too early for some. So at presebt messures up quite well i think personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: I’m Pro-Hearts, Pro-Levein and Anti-shite. Isn’t 10,000 renewals a bit disappointing, so far, compared to last year’s total? Probably is a bit disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spencer said: Probably is a bit disappointing Hardly the disaster predicted. A couple of signings in the Berra, KL, SN and we will be in the same ball park as last season. Big, big season ahead. Let's get right behind the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Pants Shaton said: I’m Pro-Hearts, Pro-Levein and Anti-shite. Isn’t 10,000 renewals a bit disappointing, so far, compared to last year’s total? Everyone has their own perspective. It’s more than I thought we would have at this point but on a par with numbers at end of renewal period last year. The next trick is to encourage the remaining 3,750 to sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said: We've sold less over 6 weeks than we sold in half the time last year. There isn't such a thing as "real" fans. Fans are fans , some go more than others. Some are based abroad, are they not "real"fans?? If I pay at the gate but buy more pies than you, am I a better fan than you because I've spent more money?? No of course not. No disrespect but this "real"fan stuff is infantile nonsense. Anyway, imo we will not attract nearly as many newbies this season as last. The new stand was the big draw last year. The actual sales figures fall into line with the JKB poll, 75%/25% renew/don't renew. My main point is that we need to increase earnings from the new stand and with a 20k capacity, and 25% of our existing ST base not renewing, the club must be and certainly should be concerned. There is no incentive for anyone wanting to renew not to have done so by now. Some may still do so and there may be some newbies but we can't realistically expect much more than 11k imo. The season hasn’t even finished and there are 3 months until the next season starts. What if some people need to wait for financial reasons? Saying we are 25% down is nonsense. We do need to increase sales but it wont ever happen in one year. This type of investment (new stand) is be part of a long term growth strategy as is all the work with academy. I actually couldn’t give a s**** about a few bad results/seasons at the moment as I see the foundations being put in place for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Might be something or nothing but the season is not yet over. Some may prefer to wait that aren't bothered about the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr Sifter said: Honestly, there should be a sub forum on Kickback titled 'Proof that Kickback knows **** all', and this could be it's inaugural thread. Kinda like The Classics, but with the aim of illustrating how the greetin faced doom mongers on here know the square root of hee haw about what goes on ?? Thankfully the majority of Kickbackers don’t post very often, but also have more common sense than the empty vessel ***** who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 One thing that is being overlooked is encouraging young fans to Tynie by playing exciting football. These kids need hero's to become the next generation to follow Hearts. Ok you can have a family section but many young lads & lassies want they're own bit of the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, mitch41 said: One thing that is being overlooked is encouraging young fans to Tynie by playing exciting football. These kids need hero's to become the next generation to follow Hearts. Ok you can have a family section but many young lads & lassies want they're own bit of the ground. Do you know the number of young lads and lassies that make up the season ticket fan base? And did you then do a comparable study with other clubs in the SPFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bez said: Thankfully the majority of Kickbackers don’t post very often, but also have more common sense than the empty vessel ***** who do. Signs of self loathing it would appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 3750 who had an ST this season haven’t yet renewed for next season. That’s a bad thing considering they will now have to pay more than they would have if they had beat the deadline. Anyone who thinks it’s other than bad is deluding themselves. 10,000 have renewed so far. That’s better than I thought and whatever the final total is, it’s not going to be a disaster. Disappointing and restrictive yes but not a disaster. The big downside is that we are supposed to be growing ST holders dramatically as the cornerstone of growing the revenue dramatically. That ambition is clearly not going to be realised this financial year. It will take a very good season for that to start happening but it won’t be this year. Get the signings right and start well and the walk ups might well make up the shortfall this season. We need to get the ST base up beyond 15k and the average attendance pushing 19k to really progress. Edited May 3, 2018 by Escobar PHM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Everyone has their own perspective. It’s more than I thought we would have at this point but on a par with numbers at end of renewal period last year. The next trick is to encourage the remaining 3,750 to sign up now. A couple of decent signings would help I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 You can only make a realistic comparison between this year and last by comparing figures at the same stage. Its nonsense to compare this years Stage one figures with the final total from last year. If the first stage figures are roughly the same as last year its reasonable to expect the remaining sales to follow the same trend. its also worth remembering that 14000 STs include half season tickets issued at xmas so a true comparison would not be available until December . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: I'm a cat b holder in the roseburn I must have been one of the only few who had a season ticket in that section this season there will be plenty I think However the roseburn are housing the singing section this season, so I'd maybe get in ASAP Thought they were going in the Gorgie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Great news and with a happy clapper like me still to renew it's looking good. A good transfer window will encourage sales and hopefully nullify the bigger capacity and the ease of getting a ticket v previous years. looks like the folk that don't renew won't be missed and will be easily replaced. Great fans, for the most part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Escobar PHM said: 3750 who had an ST this season haven’t yet renewed for next season. That’s a bad thing considering they will now have to pay more than they would have if they had beat the deadline. Anyone who thinks it’s other than bad is deluding themselves. 10,000 have renewed so far. That’s better than I thought and whatever the final total is, it’s not going to be a disaster. Disappointing and restrictive yes but not a disaster. The big downside is that we are supposed to be growing ST holders dramatically as the cornerstone of growing the revenue dramatically. That ambition is clearly not going to be realised this financial year. It will take a very good season for that to start happening but it won’t be this year. Get the signings right and start well and the walk ups might well make up the shortfall this season. We need to get the ST base up beyond 15k and the average attendance pushing 19k to really progress. Proof that you are at it. That would only be the case at ER. There is no early bird discount at Tynecastle which actually makes the figure MORE impressive. The only incentive to book early was so you could hang onto your same seat. There is no hurry if you are not bothered where .you sit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Escobar PHM said: 3750 who had an ST this season haven’t yet renewed for next season. That’s a bad thing considering they will now have to pay more than they would have if they had beat the deadline. Anyone who thinks it’s other than bad is deluding themselves. 10,000 have renewed so far. That’s better than I thought and whatever the final total is, it’s not going to be a disaster. Disappointing and restrictive yes but not a disaster. The big downside is that we are supposed to be growing ST holders dramatically as the cornerstone of growing the revenue dramatically. That ambition is clearly not going to be realised this financial year. It will take a very good season for that to start happening but it won’t be this year. Get the signings right and start well and the walk ups might well make up the shortfall this season. We need to get the ST base up beyond 15k and the average attendance pushing 19k to really progress. Gutted to be proven wrong and now I need to eat my own shoes type post. Fingers crossed the other 4k don't renew and prove you right, eh? nb -what discount? Edited May 3, 2018 by WeeChuck'sHeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, luckydug said: Proof that you are at it. That would only be the case at ER. There is no early bird discount at Tynecastle which actually makes the figure MORE impressive. The only incentive to book early was so you could hang onto your same seat. There is no hurry if you are not bothered where .you sit Wasn’t aware of that to be honest. It means it won’t cost me more once I’ve made my decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: Gutted to be proven wrong and now I need to eat my own shoes type post. Fingers crossed the other 4k don't renew and prove you right, eh? nb -what discount? Proven wrong ? On what issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Escobar PHM said: Proven wrong ? On what issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, WeeChuck'sHeed said: Yeh very good but proven wrong on what issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 What a lot of shite rolled out by the usual vocal minority. People renew for one reason and one reason only. They are Hearts supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Notts1874 said: What a lot of shite rolled out by the usual vocal minority. People renew for one reason and one reason only. They are Hearts supporters. And those that don’t renew. What are their reasons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Escobar PHM said: Yeh very good but proven wrong on what issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I'm still waiting for Escobar PHM to explain why people renewing late will be out of pocket. Or was he thinking about another Edinburgh club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Escobar PHM said: And those that don’t renew. What are their reasons ? family jobs health finance glory hunters cl haters Take your pick or do a survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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