Thomaso Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 15 hours ago, davemclaren said: It is. Craig isn’t the only experienced football person she could employ. I would suggest that she isn’t scared to sack him but she doesn’t want to. Budge has already stated that when CL steps down as Manager she expects him to move back upstairs as D of F. I said at the start of the Budge regime that Levein would be a hugely divisive character with our support - sadly this is proving to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Anyone know if proof is needed to renew on esa? My sis got one through esa last season but now she’s not on that and on jsa, she’s not got the cash for full price. On etickets it’s got the price for her ticket being esa price for next season. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, Thomaso said: I said at the start of the Budge regime that Levein would be a hugely divisive character with our support - sadly this is proving to be the case. Visionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, jamtartan74 said: Anyone know if proof is needed to renew on esa? My sis got one through esa last season but now she’s not on that and on jsa, she’s not got the cash for full price. On etickets it’s got the price for her ticket being esa price for next season. Cheers. I went in with proof just to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, been here before said: Visionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 15 hours ago, suds66 said: Excellent balanced post. Budge is the only person that can do something before further damage is done. What’s balanced about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: I went in with proof just to make sure. Thing is, she’s not now on esa so won’t have the proof, she’s wanting to know if taking a chance of renewing at the esa price that is coming up on etickets or if after doing that they would ask for proof. It’s the only way she can renew as wont have the full amount. She’s only just came off esa so a bit of a pain in the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, jamtartan74 said: Thing is, she’s not now on esa so won’t have the proof, she’s wanting to know if taking a chance of renewing at the esa price that is coming up on etickets or if after doing that they would ask for proof. It’s the only way she can renew as wont have the full amount. She’s only just came off esa so a bit of a pain in the arse. Can't help. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Can't help. Sorry. No problem disco, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Reminder email sent out today. Yip, got mine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just got mine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, All Out Attack said: I think this is part of the problem actually. It's bad enough seeing what Levein is doing here, but what really grates with me is the likely impact he will have in season ticket sales. The apathy and negativity that surrounds this man is something else. He's simply not worth it. Every time Budge seems to get the PR right, Levein seems to find a way of ruining it. If it's not team performances or his negative setup, it's now his anti-football interviews. To be honest, I think there is little point of the club pushing season tickets too hard just now, as our manager still has another 4 games to go. Although, lose to Hibs for example and the seethe could very well see him off. That scenario won't be pretty. I think the club needs to wait until the season is over before ramping up season ticket advertising. Do you genuinely think he'll be sacked if we lose to Hibs? Dearie me. I'm away me hols next week but will be renewing before I go. It's what supporters do. I can always set fire to me ST if we lose to the Brazilian flairmeisters from the East of the city. Edited April 25, 2018 by Jamhammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 17 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: I hadn't even realised that there was only a week to renew, the season has been over since the Well game and I just can't find anything positive to look forward to. However get paid on Friday and will probably wander along to renew my two tickets, albeit without much enthusiasm. At least I will be in place for seat moving day, whenever that is. Have faith, Budge and CL are not idiots. They know we must do better next season and every effort will be made to secure the best quality players we can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I wonder how much of the apathy surrounding the Club, is do with Hibs relative success recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds66 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: What’s balanced about it? Maybe I should have included "In my opinion" I agree with what he said, therefore I believe the post to be a fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, suds66 said: Maybe I should have included "In my opinion" I agree with what he said, therefore I believe the post to be a fair point. No problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 21 hours ago, yennifrt said: Thinking about getting a ST for the first time in a few years , the only thing putting me off is paying for 19 home games and only getting 18. A season ticket entitles you to the specified seat for all home league games - it doesn't specify a number of games. This view that you're paying for 19 games is an expectation rather than part of the season ticket contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Renewed x 2 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Haken said: A season ticket entitles you to the specified seat for all home league games - it doesn't specify a number of games. This view that you're paying for 19 games is an expectation rather than part of the season ticket contract. You might even get 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: You might even get 20. Depending on which end of the M8 you're team is located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mister Dee said: I wonder how much of the apathy surrounding the Club, is do with Hibs relative success recently. Absolutely zero impact on me. I’ve been going home and away for many years now, but have recently stopped going to the away games. I’m scunnered watching us away from home. Shite Hearts teams I can cope with. Mind numbingly boring Hearts teams I can’t. Hopefully a break is what I need to rediscover my enthusiasm. ST will be getting purchased on Saturday but I currently have little faith next season will be any better. To be fair, we aren’t bad at home so a ST is probably a good purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: Do you genuinely think he'll be sacked if we lose to Hibs? Dearie me. I'm away me hols next week but will be renewing before I go. It's what supporters do. I can always set fire to me ST if we lose to the Brazilian flairmeisters from the East of the city. You are of course correct - Budge will not sack Levein....infact I'm struggling to think of a scenario that she would sack Levein! Notwithstanding the above, a loss to Hibs will do nothing to convince undecided ST holders to re-new for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Haken said: Depending on which end of the M8 you're team is located? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mister Dee said: I wonder how much of the apathy surrounding the Club, is do with Hibs relative success recently. Unfortunately it looks like we are the masters of our own downfall. We have a great stadium and fantastic offfield management but where it matters is with the 11 players on the field and the individual responsible for that and they are letting us down badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, McCrae said: Have faith, Budge and CL are not idiots. They know we must do better next season and every effort will be made to secure the best quality players we can afford. I really is not the case that anybody is saying Budge and Levein are idiots. What more and more fans are saying is that Levein cannot deliver a Hearts team that will challenge for the league & cups. The fans who want Levein gone with his bootroom pals wonder if Ann Budge can make that decision when she relys totally on Levein's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Thomaso said: You are of course correct - Budge will not sack Levein....infact I'm struggling to think of a scenario that she would sack Levein! Notwithstanding the above, a loss to Hibs will do nothing to convince undecided ST holders to re-new for next season. Agree. I think only decent signings will do that. Say, for instance Mitchell, Naismith sign up. McGregor replaces Jon. We sign a couple of decent midfielders and possibly a poacher type striker then I think numbers will be round about what they are the now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, mitch41 said: I really is not the case that anybody is saying Budge and Levein are idiots. What more and more fans are saying is that Levein cannot deliver a Hearts team that will challenge for the league & cups. The fans who want Levein gone with his bootroom pals wonder if Ann Budge can make that decision when she relys totally on Levein's advice. I think next season is the critical mass for CL. Another season like this one and he'll be gone. Mrs Budge is, at the end of the day a businesswoman and there will be no excuses next year. Craig Levein is the manager. The players signed and coached will be his players. If they/he are not better than this season he will not be the manager. I'm not sure where he will stand re DOF and director though and whether, if he stays as DOF the model, as it stands will continue. I doubt it very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: I think next season is the critical mass for CL. Another season like this one and he'll be gone. Mrs Budge is, at the end of the day a businesswoman and there will be no excuses next year. Craig Levein is the manager. The players signed and coached will be his players. If they/he are not better than this season he will not be the manager. I'm not sure where he will stand re DOF and director though and whether, if he stays as DOF the model, as it stands will continue. I doubt it very much. Budge is on record as saying if it doesn't work out he will go back to being DOF. Better get used to the fact he wont be going anywhere until Budge has handed over her shares to the FOH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section G The Place To Be Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 24/04/2018 at 13:02, FarmerTweedy said: Do people really still need it explained to them that we were pretty much the worst team in the league under Cathro, and that this season was impacted by the fixture disruption due to the new stand and the poor preparation during pre-season prior to Cathro being sacked??????????? Ah so those away fixtures at the start of the season are why were in a worse league position this year. Nothing to do with Levein. Another pish excuse slavered by those happy to accept rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, McCrae said: Have faith, Budge and CL are not idiots. They know we must do better next season and every effort will be made to secure the best quality players we can afford. That's what I thought last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That's me renewed. Another season of abusing Wheatfield Lino's (Refuse to call them assistants until they actually start assisting the referee rather than waiting for him to make a decision then raising their flags). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 52 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Agree. I think only decent signings will do that. Say, for instance Mitchell, Naismith sign up. McGregor replaces Jon. We sign a couple of decent midfielders and possibly a poacher type striker then I think numbers will be round about what they are the now. Unfortunately none of these look likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Budge is on record as saying if it doesn't work out he will go back to being DOF. Better get used to the fact he wont be going anywhere until Budge has handed over her shares to the FOH. This is the reality of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, HopeDiouf said: That's what I thought last year. They did though deal with the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, McCrae said: They did though deal with the problem. They dealt with part of the problem. We are yet to find out whether the other part of the problem is still in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: That's me renewed. Another season of abusing Wheatfield Lino's (Refuse to call them assistants until they actually start assisting the referee rather than waiting for him to make a decision then raising their flags). Those ear pieces and microphones they wear aren't just for show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 renewed. End of an era. Same seat in Section D Wheatfield since day 1 but moving to the shiny new one so I can take the young un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 hours ago, jonnothejambo said: Reminder email sent out today. Got my "7 days to renew" email just 6 days and 4 hours before the window slams shut. At least it was the blandest of statements without any attempt at whipping up enthusiasm on the basis of our progress in beefing up the squad and consequently we have an exciting new season to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: That's me renewed. Another season of abusing Wheatfield Lino's (Refuse to call them assistants until they actually start assisting the referee rather than waiting for him to make a decision then raising their flags). I have seen linesmen assisting referees. The problem is they seem a little selective about when they choose to assist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: Budge is on record as saying if it doesn't work out he will go back to being DOF. Better get used to the fact he wont be going anywhere until Budge has handed over her shares to the FOH. Unless things get a lot worse I think Levein may survive in post after the share transfer .. as Ann may well do. Edited April 25, 2018 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to 2005 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Got my "7 days to renew" email just 6 days and 4 hours before the window slams shut. At least it was the blandest of statements without any attempt at whipping up enthusiasm on the basis of our progress in beefing up the squad and consequently we have an exciting new season to look forward to. Yup it's like we are being taken for granted. Maybe sales are so good they don't need to bother but I seriously doubt that's the case. I have had a ST for all but 3 seasons since 84/85 but never felt less enthused to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: Unfortunately none of these look likely. Hunch or you ken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: Budge is on record as saying if it doesn't work out he will go back to being DOF. Better get used to the fact he wont be going anywhere until Budge has handed over her shares to the FOH. Well she'll need to revaluate her thinking in that case. All business owners are the mercy of their customers and football is no different. If CL leaves as Head Coach, because it doesnt work out, AB will be left with no choice but to punt him right out the door. It would be madness for her to think that he could then pick his successor and place all sorts of stipulations on the new coach. Edited April 25, 2018 by Enzo Chiefo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Well she'll need to revaluate her thinking in that case. All business owners are the mercy of their customers and football is no different. If CL leaves as Head Coach, AB will be left with no choice but to lunt him right out the door. It would be madness for her to think that he could then pick his successor and place all sorts of stipulations on him. The alternative would be for CL to step away from first team matters . The club could then hire a traditional manager to take responsibility for first team matters. I was under the impression that John Murray was either retiring or close to retiring CL may move into the position of chief scout. I know some people will disagree but I feel it would be a mistake to lose CL completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, luckydug said: The alternative would be for CL to step away from first team matters . The club could then hire a traditional manager to take responsibility for first team matters. I was under the impression that John Murray was either retiring or close to retiring CL may move into the position of chief scout. I know some people will disagree but I feel it would be a mistake to lose CL completely. The way things are going I think I’ll lose the will to live before we lose Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, luckydug said: The alternative would be for CL to step away from first team matters . The club could then hire a traditional manager to take responsibility for first team matters. I was under the impression that John Murray was either retiring or close to retiring CL may move into the position of chief scout. I know some people will disagree but I feel it would be a mistake to lose CL completely. I agree that there should be a role for him. Overseeing the academy or youth development for example. However being DOF above a traditional manager would not work. The manager has to be the most powerful figure in the football dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Renewed this evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 The last poll after Dundee game I think ran at 75% approval for Levein to continue. Probably be around 12k sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Back to 2005 said: Yup it's like we are being taken for granted. Maybe sales are so good they don't need to bother but I seriously doubt that's the case. I have had a ST for all but 3 seasons since 84/85 but never felt less enthused to get one. Please force yourself. Despite Levein or because of him we really do need you. Unless things dramatically improve, this time next year is the time for meaningful protest. People not renewing in droves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Jamhammer said: I think next season is the critical mass for CL. Another season like this one and he'll be gone. Mrs Budge is, at the end of the day a businesswoman and there will be no excuses next year. Craig Levein is the manager. The players signed and coached will be his players. If they/he are not better than this season he will not be the manager. I'm not sure where he will stand re DOF and director though and whether, if he stays as DOF the model, as it stands will continue. I doubt it very much. If he was sacked as manager and returned as DOF he would still have Ann Budge's confidence and he would still control all football matters including who got the managers job and we all know who he'd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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