luckydug Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, McCrae said: Yes, need to be able to prove he is a pensioner. If he has a purchase history the club will have his details including his DOB on record anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Ribble said: For me it’s that we invariably follow a couple of poor seasons with a very good one. On on top of that I think other teams could/will have poorer seasons I can see Aberdeen needing their own rebuild over the summer with the likes of Rooney and May going Hibs will be worse with quite a few leaving, plus they never have 2 good seasons killie will struggle to keep Clarke and boyds Indian summer won’t continue Rangers if they do go for Gerrard could easily find themselves with Cathro mk2, plus I doubt whoever the manager is will find it easy to move on poor players due to their higher than deserved wages Thanks. Blind faith has mostly done it for me for over 50 years but it needs some reinforcement currently. Hope you are right! (But I have to say "far better" at home is over-egging it and away form does impact on ST holders) Edited April 28, 2018 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ycj Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Anyone know the numbers we have sold compared to same time last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Francis Albert said: A lot of us need inspiration. What are your grounds for having a great feeling about next year/season? I am not a happy clapper and if results don’t improve next year we will need a change. The main reason is that I rate CL as a very good manager. I have some fantastic memories from his last spell and expect more over the next few years. I have seen enough improvement in the teams performances and fighting spirit since he took over to recognise that he still has got what it takes. This season whilst disappointing has hardly been a disaster. Historically we have had an average season. The main change over recent years is that our expectations and demands for the teams performance are higher. I think any fans that were expecting us to be pushing for a place in Europe this year had unrealistic expectations. There wasn’t a lot he could do to change the squad he inherited, I expect a more balanced team after the summer transfer window is completed. A few other factors are likely to boost our league position:- No more games at Murrayfield. Less financial pressure on budgets from the building of the new stand. Our younger players such a Soutar and Cochrane will be a bit older and stronger. We have a great pipeline of players coming up from the Academy. CL overall is pretty good at picking players in the transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I was in yesterday while my mate was renewing. There was a steady stream of folk renewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ribble said: Don’t understand folk not renewing because of our away form, fine stop going to away games but we have been far better at home. Ive renewed but my only reluctance was the 75 quid hike. I actually think we have the basis of a decent side so with players coming in I think we’ll be much better next season. We haven’t really been ‘far’ better at home. Better, yes, but not far better, certainly when it comes to entertainment. Edited April 29, 2018 by Paolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungho Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Paulp74 said: Fair play to everyone renewing but not for me this year. The last two seasons have been shambolic and the one before that not much better. The players we've been linked with are not very inspiring and i feel the club are taking us for granted a bit now, especially with putting up season tickets this year, despite the garbage we've had to endure over the last 3 seasons. I will still probably go to the majority of home games next year but will pick and choose my games and pretty scunnered with the way things are going. I'm not going to blindly throw away £500 every season for the fare that's on offer This is where I’m at . Take the wee man with me and near tail end of the season he’s wanted to play with his pals rather than go as he finds it boring just now . . It’s hard to argue with him . Can’t justify paying the cash upfront if it turns out the same product is on offer . It’s become a chore to go watch them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhauser2012 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Renewed yesterday. Had a season ticket since I was a boy, many years ago. Times have been hard, in the past, but this has been the hardest to buy. Mainly due to the price now. £495 for a season ticket, where you don’t know if you are getting 18 or 19 games. Back in the day, you got a couple of free games and into the cup ties as a reward for paying up front. Now you are only guaranteed your seat for league games, with the chance that you may not make all the games anyway, what with kick off times all over the place. It would have been nice for this season’s people to have been given some leeway in the price, considering we never got to use our season ticket at Tynecastle until November. With the bigger ground, comes more responsibility for Hearts to provide an attractive product to fill it regularly. We seem to be a long way from this. One thing is for sure. Another season like this one and numbers will drop dramatically. The kick off times is a bugbear of mine. Friday at 19:45. 12:00 on a weekend. I renewed our tickets a few weeks ago and later found that my friends are not renewing due to CL which is a shame. It was an extra £100 at a time when I'm facing a large cut in income. No more match day socialising next season due to nobody else going and that was an important part of my day especially when the team fails to deliver. Continuous poor performances divide and isolate us. I wanted to give CL a full preseason but not everyone is as patient. If things do not improve will not be renewing next year and reconsider FOH subscription. Edited April 29, 2018 by Brauhauser2012 Missing point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 10 hours ago, Paulp74 said: Fair play to everyone renewing but not for me this year. The last two seasons have been shambolic and the one before that not much better. The players we've been linked with are not very inspiring and i feel the club are taking us for granted a bit now, especially with putting up season tickets this year, despite the garbage we've had to endure over the last 3 seasons. I will still probably go to the majority of home games next year but will pick and choose my games and pretty scunnered with the way things are going. I'm not going to blindly throw away £500 every season for the fare that's on offer Snap... Its a point of principal for me...the standard we have all suffered from 2-3 years has taken its toll on me on the park... No enjoyment in watching Hearts...im prepared to negate results to a large degree if I think my team including management have done their best to enertain at the very least and make a game of it....but thats a distant memory...the way our management set us up...the way we simply play makes it very hard to want to see that and endure such pitiful uninspiring sport.... Ill cherry pick my games simple as that....and the folk that try and claim to be uber fans etc above someone with a degree of wherewithal and objectivity as to where I find myself, they can go and raffle ?!!!! Sad but true..... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Even if sales are poor after the renewal period is up there is still plenty of time left to change people's minds. With the larger capacity it is not as important to hold onto current seats. I think we will actually sell more STs further into the summer as enthusiasm increases for the new season. A couple of good performances in our last two home games would do wonders for sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, GavK1012 said: Snap... Its a point of principal for me...the standard we have all suffered from 2-3 years has taken its toll on me on the park... No enjoyment in watching Hearts...im prepared to negate results to a large degree if I think my team including management have done their best to enertain at the very least and make a game of it....but thats a distant memory...the way our management set us up...the way we simply play makes it very hard to want to see that and endure such pitiful uninspiring sport.... Ill cherry pick my games simple as that....and the folk that try and claim to be uber fans etc above someone with a degree of wherewithal and objectivity as to where I find myself, they can go and raffle ?!!!! Sad but true..... ? One thing that is missing from this year's ST debate has been the presence of the uber fan. Everyone understands the predicament many fans find themselves in. Times are hard for a lot of people and hard decisions have to be made. Many people will find they can't justify spending the best part 500 quid for something they are not enjoying . Even more so if it's a family lots of things the money could be spent on. The only thing that anoys me about it is people encouraging others not to renew. It's a personal decision and I have renewed because I love going to the football and see the last couple of seasons as a blip. Things will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 14 hours ago, Jamboelite said: About half the league have someone in the stands, most however have a better way of communicating info. Dundee Utd for example have someone linked into an Ipad with editing facilities so information can be relayed at half time.(yes i am aware Utd arent in our league) Cowdenbeath way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Let’s face it, our core season ticket numbers are about 12k. It goes up and down depending on how well the team is playing or how the club is being run. Wether you call this 2 or 3k floating fans or fair weather fans is up for debate. Edited April 29, 2018 by Koolkeith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 10 hours ago, luckydug said: If he has a purchase history the club will have his details including his DOB on record anyway. Correct - it was automatic for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 14 hours ago, Currahee! said: Laugh away. Take your jammies off and your maroon glasses ffs I will never get this phrase. Of course Hearts supporters have maroon glasses, we are Hearts supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, Koolkeith said: Let’s face it, our core season ticket numbers are about 12k. It goes up and down depending on how well the team is playing or how the club is being run. Wether you call this 2 or 3k floating fans or fair weather fans is up for debate. I think you are over estimating the core support number unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I will probably renew but not in a hurry. Paid for a platinum seat in the new stand but choice wasn't great, stuck on the edgesin row 33. Can't say I have enjoyed it. Not sure what what is happening with old main stand concessions this season but would like to be more central and lower down. Paying Platinum for a crap seat plus paying to the foundation is a bit dispiriting when some (not all) get a concession in the new stand and don't pay into the foundation. If if not I will see what's available in the Gorgie where we came from or the Wheatfield. If nothing I fancy I will pay per match. I have missed 7 games this season due to work and would make more financial sense to do this. The football at Tynecastle has been passable but not exactly fun to watch. I hate the Hibs as much as anybody but watching their 5-3 win yesterday is much more palatable than dragging out a one goal victory. We need rid of CL and an attack minded coach brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, pablo said: I think you are over estimating the core support number unfortunately. You’re probably right. Sat at around 8 or 9k for years and I remember thinking getting 12 or 13 was quite an achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4jambos Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Koolkeith said: Let’s face it, our core season ticket numbers are about 12k. It goes up and down depending on how well the team is playing or how the club is being run. Wether you call this 2 or 3k floating fans or fair weather fans is up for debate. Sorry not a flooting fan or fair weather fan, been season ticket holder for many years as have my family but we are still undecided if we will renew our four season tickets. Problems with our seats in new stand wrote to the club in January had no reply not a good way to treat loyal fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Koolkeith said: You’re probably right. Sat at around 8 or 9k for years and I remember thinking getting 12 or 13 was quite an achievement. That's around what I think it's at mate. Was out yesterday with a mate who has decided not to renew his next season. Spoken to loads of guys who are undecided. Disappointing if we lose a chunk of the fanbase after all the hard work to grow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Deek said: I will probably renew but not in a hurry. Paid for a platinum seat in the new stand but choice wasn't great, stuck on the edgesin row 33. Can't say I have enjoyed it. Not sure what what is happening with old main stand concessions this season but would like to be more central and lower down. Paying Platinum for a crap seat plus paying to the foundation is a bit dispiriting when some (not all) get a concession in the new stand and don't pay into the foundation. If if not I will see what's available in the Gorgie where we came from or the Wheatfield. If nothing I fancy I will pay per match. I have missed 7 games this season due to work and would make more financial sense to do this. The football at Tynecastle has been passable but not exactly fun to watch. I hate the Hibs as much as anybody but watching their 5-3 win yesterday is much more palatable than dragging out a one goal victory. We need rid of CL and an attack minded coach brought in. Livi Punx !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 13 hours ago, Independence said: This with bells on. All the H1b5 imposters and dramatists are having a field day. Its quite fun reading their ridiculous posts. Im a Hearts fan, over 60 and can't wait for the new season. Ditto and I am nearer 75 than 70. After what has gone before if I can exercise a bit patience so can those in their prime. We are now in a better position to move forward than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, pablo said: That's around what I think it's at mate. Was out yesterday with a mate who has decided not to renew his next season. Spoken to loads of guys who are undecided. Disappointing if we lose a chunk of the fanbase after all the hard work to grow it. I've was thinking the same. We had built up a feel good factor at the club, after going into administration, and a bit of togetherness but this seems to have been lost over the last couple of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The board must be aware of the depth of feeling on this, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Out Attack Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, jr ewing said: The board must be aware of the depth of feeling on this, don't they? I really hope so. This place is starting to get messy with differing views. We are really not in a good place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, jr ewing said: The board must be aware of the depth of feeling on this, don't they? I'm honestly not sure if they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Silvery_Moon said: I'm honestly not sure if they are. Oh, they definitely ARE aware of the current social media opinions. I know of at least 2 higher uppers that follow everything on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, jambo1961 said: Livi Punx !!!!! Rool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, pablo said: That's around what I think it's at mate. Was out yesterday with a mate who has decided not to renew his next season. Spoken to loads of guys who are undecided. Disappointing if we lose a chunk of the fanbase after all the hard work to grow it. Aye. Which is frustrating that Budge and Levein are undoing all their own hard work and appear to be blind to it. I guess sales this season may be a reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Any idea how many have been purchased ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, poultry said: Any idea how many have been purchased ? Doubt we will know until the renewal period closes on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just renewed. I hope the world cup passes quickly so we can get back to the silky soccer of the Hearts ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootzilla Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Was far closer to not renewing last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 12 hours ago, 132goals1958 said: Ditto and I am nearer 75 than 70. After what has gone before if I can exercise a bit patience so can those in their prime. We are now in a better position to move forward than ever. You were at Hampden in 1956 weren't you? My dad wasn't half as good as you're dad and wouldn't take me. To be honest I think my mother had a lot to do with that dreadful example of child cruelty. RIP both of them. They were tremendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: You were at Hampden in 1956 weren't you? My dad wasn't half as good as you're dad and wouldn't take me. To be honest I think my mother had a lot to do with that dreadful example of child cruelty. RIP both of them. They were tremendous. Know the feeling mate. Rest of the family were at Hampden that day while I was punted down to Grandma's in Portobello for the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: You were at Hampden in 1956 weren't you? My dad wasn't half as good as you're dad and wouldn't take me. To be honest I think my mother had a lot to do with that dreadful example of child cruelty. RIP both of them. They were tremendous. It was my Uncle Alex that took me (my Mums Brother). Only 12 years old at the time. Funny thing my Mum was quite strict but my Uncle managed to persuade her to let me skip the school for the mid week semi final replay against Raith. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 That's mine and the old mans renewed. No matter how bad we are, it definitely beats IKEA on a Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 hours ago, poultry said: Any idea how many have been purchased ? I expect a late flurry of renewals before the deadline, but numbers may well be down. How much they will be down by, I've no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 25/04/2018 at 17:48, Jamhammer said: Hunch or you ken? Informed hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 23 hours ago, All Out Attack said: We are really not in a good place. I disagree with this statement 100%. If you look at the bigger picture our club is in the strongest position in decades. No longer are we burdened with crippling debt and forced by our bankers to sell players to pay back money owed. We can decide to sell/buy a player based on the needs of the team, not on instruction from our bankers. We have a fantastic stadium, one of the best in Scotland. We are generating a conveyor belt of young talent through the Academy. The mentality of the club/fans has changed from accepting mediocrity to demanding success. On the field we have had historically an average season, hardly a disaster. Next season we will have a reduced financial burden relating to the main stand and will have a more balanced fixture list playing all our home games at Tynecastle. I am really excited about next season and see us pushing for 2nd place. CL has a good track record in picking players up in the summer transfer window. I expect him to do the same again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo poet Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 After long thoughts I have renewed for the boy and I. It's a sticky one as I work shifts and miss a few games and was thinking I could just pick and choose my games. The boy also plays football on a Sunday morning and we've had a few Sunday lunch time kick offs. If only Saturday at 3 was the norm but it's a rarity nowadays. I also have an 8 month old baby now who demands a lot of my time. I really did have the ammo not to renew but I still believe we are on the cusp of something and my love of the JT's and all things Hearts have me my usual enthusiastic self about the new season. My little donation will hopefully help us toward building a team we can be proud of and support through the new season....probably with a little extra one on my hip greeting for a feed during the game. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just been in to renew 2 I asked how many we've sold The boy behind counter said it's not been as busy as normal but hopefully it would pick up in last couple of days before deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 29/04/2018 at 11:08, All Out Attack said: I really hope so. This place is starting to get messy with differing views. We are really not in a good place. This is true. We have people supporting Hibs over it and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 29/04/2018 at 11:00, jr ewing said: The board must be aware of the depth of feeling on this, don't they? If they dont then they soon will be with the amount of fans that have decided not to renew season tickets. I have renewed because of no more than blind loyalty to the club. Forking out almost £500 after the absolute dross we have been served up this season, I must be mad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 29/04/2018 at 11:50, ...a bit disco said: Oh, they definitely ARE aware of the current social media opinions. I know of at least 2 higher uppers that follow everything on here. Maybe you could have a word with them then about PR disasters like the Lego bus and the twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Set out to renew with a heavy heart ... but cheered up when I discovered I qualify (just) for the Over 65 discount. The club kindly automatically tracks your age qualification, otherwise I would have paid the full price. I think they've missed a trick by not giving you the option of paying the full price as I feel slightly guilty - but there has to be some advantages to growing old! Anyway I will find other ways of providing the club with the difference. Upping my FoH sub will presumably save the club on VAT for example. Strangely having bit the bullet I even feel a bit more enthusiasm for the new season than I did before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: Maybe you could have a word with them then about PR disasters like the Lego bus and the twitter account. Don't tell me they have started deducting payments for the lego bus straight from our accounts without us ordering them ? What's the beef about the twitter account ? Have I missed something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, luckydug said: Don't tell me they have started deducting payments for the lego bus straight from our accounts without us ordering them ? What's the beef about the twitter account ? Have I missed something ? Bit harsh suggesting they'd be stealing folk's money straight from their accounts mate. I know we're all a bit miffed but you've crossed a line there. As for the Twitter account, ask a PHM if you know any. It was all over social media as well as more traditional communication platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 No word on how many sold? I see Dempster announced on twitter hibs have just sold over 10,000, however pretty sure theirs have been on sale for an extra month or so. We’d need a 71ish% uptake in renewals to match that by this point which I would be surprised it isn’t achieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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