Rust Cohle Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That's a really strong team for the championship which will create lots of chances, my only concern is I don't thing we have a prolific goal scorer in the squad like the rangers have. I honestly think we have a far better starting 11 than the rangers but a Miller or a Boyd type player would give us goals. Spoke with the laddie this morning, who is down in Manchester working, saying he spoke with a few of the players yesterday after their training session and they expect a couple of new players to join them on trial when they return home after the game today. He watched the team train yesterday and couldn't believe the length of the sessions RN was demanding from the players but he said the players where enjoying the new training schedule. He was very very impressed with RN and SC's coaching technics and says we can expect a quick attacking team this season as all the drills where based on quick passing and moving and shifting the ball from one side of the park to the other with midfield player breaking through in front of the forwards. Patterson and McHattie spent long spells at training overlapping, getting to the bye line and drilling balls into the box. Where were they training, out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That's a really strong team for the championship which will create lots of chances, my only concern is I don't thing we have a prolific goal scorer in the squad like the rangers have. I honestly think we have a far better starting 11 than the rangers but a Miller or a Boyd type player would give us goals. Spoke with the laddie this morning, who is down in Manchester working, saying he spoke with a few of the players yesterday after their training session and they expect a couple of new players to join them on trial when they return home after the game today. He watched the team train yesterday and couldn't believe the length of the sessions RN was demanding from the players but he said the players where enjoying the new training schedule. He was very very impressed with RN and SC's coaching technics and says we can expect a quick attacking team this season as all the drills where based on quick passing and moving and shifting the ball from one side of the park to the other with midfield player breaking through in front of the forwards. Patterson and McHattie spent long spells at training overlapping, getting to the bye line and drilling balls into the box. " with midfield player breaking through in front of the forwards". Rudi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Where were they training, out of interest? Not sure mate but I'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Where were they training, out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressgang22 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Spoke with the laddie this morning, who is down in Manchester working, saying he spoke with a few of the players yesterday after their training session Sorry who was it you spoke with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How is Berra getting on at Ipswich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How is Berra getting on at Ipswich? Player of the season last year and a fan favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How is Berra getting on at Ipswich? Beat me to it (above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Sorry who was it you spoke with? My son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That's a really strong team for the championship which will create lots of chances, my only concern is I don't thing we have a prolific goal scorer in the squad like the rangers have. I honestly think we have a far better starting 11 than the rangers but a Miller or a Boyd type player would give us goals. Spoke with the laddie this morning, who is down in Manchester working, saying he spoke with a few of the players yesterday after their training session and they expect a couple of new players to join them on trial when they return home after the game today. He watched the team train yesterday and couldn't believe the length of the sessions RN was demanding from the players but he said the players where enjoying the new training schedule. He was very very impressed with RN and SC's coaching technics and says we can expect a quick attacking team this season as all the drills where based on quick passing and moving and shifting the ball from one side of the park to the other with midfield player breaking through in front of the forwards. Patterson and McHattie spent long spells at training overlapping, getting to the bye line and drilling balls into the box. Sound's very positive. Looking forward to this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 " with midfield player breaking through in front of the forwards". Rudi... More like a Hartley type midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 All sounding very positive, looking forward to next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 People questioning Buabens quality as a signing for the championship. Sometimes I question all faith in our future as a species. Lower English Championship sides would consider him worth a shot. Same with Gomis and Ozturk is looking immense. We are building a team that would walk into the SPL top 6 right now under the right manager. If we sign someone we KNOW is going to bag 20 goals next season I would consider it job done provided we get the luck with injuries and suspensions. We now have a squad that can cope with that to a degree though as we will have more depth as well. It's looking really good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'd feel more confident about next season if we signed Buaben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'd feel more confident about next season if we signed Buaben. I agree Scot. He would be fantastic for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinningSmith Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I agree Scot. He would be fantastic for us. This and a keeper to challenge Alexander. I'm happy with having Alexander as number 1 but it would be good to have a back up with a little more experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'd feel more confident about next season if we signed Buaben. can't disagree, especially as he's tried n tested with Gomis as a partnership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 People questioning Buabens quality as a signing for the championship. Sometimes I question all faith in our future as a species. Lower English Championship sides would consider him worth a shot. Same with Gomis and Ozturk is looking immense. We are building a team that would walk into the SPL top 6 right now under the right manager. If we sign someone we KNOW is going to bag 20 goals next season I would consider it job done provided we get the luck with injuries and suspensions. We now have a squad that can cope with that to a degree though as we will have more depth as well. It's looking really good right now. he was with Carlisle who let him come to Partick, where he couldn't get a game. He's been a good player so I wouldn't write him off but he has something to prove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 he was with Carlisle who let him come to Partick, where he couldn't get a game. He's been a good player so I wouldn't write him off but he has something to prove a player with a point to prove seems to tie in with CL, RN ethos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Sometimes we are guilty of remembering a player for what he was not for what he is. Signings need to based on reality not fiction and given his recent record is Bauben better than what we have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Would be very happy if we sign Buabin...although I must stop pronouncing it boabin'...as in boabin' bursds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinningSmith Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 He must have impressed a little to be asked to come to Edinburgh to train a little. N doubt he will get another run out against Hmilton on Wednesday so we can further judge then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 he was with Carlisle who let him come to Partick, where he couldn't get a game. He's been a good player so I wouldn't write him off but he has something to prove Feel exactly the same. Lost his way, maybe we can help him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 So in theory all these people that want rudi back are forgetting about the fact he was mince at Dundee utd and got released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Sometimes we are guilty of remembering a player for what he was not for what he is. Signings need to based on reality not fiction and given his recent record is Bauben better than what we have ? I would imagine if signed it'll be based on what our coaching team have seen, not what they remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I agree Scot. He would be fantastic for us. Yup, he has the attributes and proven himself in Scotland. If Robinson is out long term then it allows Buaben is fit in and when Robinson comes back As for the his time at Carlisle and Partick Thistle, he actually played regularly for both clubs last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic_bas Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Can you imagine the seeth across the road Alexander Paterson ozturk Wilson McHattie Gomis Buaben Nicholson holt el Hassanaoui Keatings I know that this isn't the main thrust of this thread but am I the only one who thinks Holt isn't a number 10. Despite his physique he seems more suited a deeper midfield role. He's got more in common with Barry Ferguson than Colin Cameron in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I know that this isn't the main thrust of this thread but am I the only one who thinks Holt isn't a number 10. Despite his physique he seems more suited a deeper midfield role. He's got more in common with Barry Ferguson than Colin Cameron in my eyes He's certainly not a "wee Mickey" mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yup, he has the attributes and proven himself in Scotland. If Robinson is out long term then it allows Buaben is fit in and when Robinson comes back As for the his time at Carlisle and Partick Thistle, he actually played regularly for both clubs last season. Him, Gomes and Holt would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I know that this isn't the main thrust of this thread but am I the only one who thinks Holt isn't a number 10. Despite his physique he seems more suited a deeper midfield role. He's got more in common with Barry Ferguson than Colin Cameron in my eyes The problem with Holt is we`ve only really seen him in short spells because of injury and initially being drip fed into the team when he was a bit younger. Personally, i think he is a player you want playing further forward as he has the brain , technique and passing ability to open teams. He`s shown he can score goals from midfield and he knows how to time his runs to support the front man. He`d be a total waste , imo, sitting further back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Him, Gomes and Holt would be superb. Add in Robinson, and have Beith as reserve then you have a great selection of central midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic_bas Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 The problem with Holt is we`ve only really seen him in short spells because of injury and initially being drip fed into the team when he was a bit younger. Personally, i think he is a player you want playing further forward as he has the brain , technique and passing ability to open teams. He`s shown he can score goals from midfield and he knows how to time his runs to support the front man. He`d be a total waste , imo, sitting further back. I'll honest I've never seen holt make a well timed run into the box. I'm not even sure I've seen hom create a chance with an incisive through ball. These aren't criticisms. His best performances for me have all come from keeping the ball moving intelligently from deep. Happy to be corrected on the above. It could just be that he needs more time playing in advanced positions but I'm always happier when he's playing further back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_ree Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Buaben has lost his way a bit. Just like Hartley had before he came to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Add in Robinson, and have Beith as reserve then you have a great selection of central midfielders. Only seen Beith a couple of times for the young boys. He a big prospect would you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'll honest I've never seen holt make a well timed run into the box. I'm not even sure I've seen hom create a chance with an incisive through ball. These aren't criticisms. His best performances for me have all come from keeping the ball moving intelligently from deep. Happy to be corrected on the above. It could just be that he needs more time playing in advanced positions but I'm always happier when he's playing further back. My point is i think he has that ability to play attacking mid. Off the top of my head i remember his run off Sutton at Parkhead and he scored from a deflection, followed up a one-two v ICT and thumped in a fine finish. He was up with play v Celtic last season and scored an equaliser, he hit a superb volley v Ross County two seasons ago. There`s other tit bits of play i remember from two seasons ago where he was up in the box and getting efforts in on goal. Admittedly all a bit sporadic(due to aforementioned reasons) but for me he`s shown he likes to get forward and that`s his nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 So in theory all these people that want rudi back are forgetting about the fact he was mince at Dundee utd and got released? To be fair, Houston hadn't a clue how to play Rudi, and I honestly don't think his heart was in it playing for them anyway, when he really wanted to be back at Tynie, but I agree and accept the decision of the new regime that he's a bit old to be offered a contract these days, but would love to see him back as a coach but at some point but I'm not hung up on it like a lot of people appear to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Personally, i think he is a player you want playing further forward as he has the brain , technique and passing ability to open teams. He`s shown he can score goals from midfield and he knows how to time his runs to support the front man. He`d be a total waste , imo, sitting further back. Andrea Pirlo is all of those things and plays nowhere near the position you'd put Holt in. I'm not claiming Holt will ever be anywhere near Pirlos level but the SPL/Championship is nowhere near Serie A and he can be equally if not more effective in a withdrawn role than one directly behind the strikers where he lacks a lot more of the characteristics required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 So in theory all these people that want rudi back are forgetting about the fact he was mince at Dundee utd and got released? Yes indeed. Just like Levein was mince with Scotland and got released. Just like Craig Levein was mince with Leicester and got released. Just like Paul Hartley was mince with Hibernian F C and got released. Speaking for myself, I think Hartley went on to do rather well and I certainly haven't written off Levein even if he is on threshold of a gargantuan error in not signing Skatcel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes indeed. Just like Levein was mince with Scotland and got released. Just like Craig Levein was mince with Leicester and got released. Just like Paul Hartley was mince with Hibernian F C and got released. Speaking for myself, I think Hartley went on to do rather well and I certainly haven't written off Levein even if he is on threshold of a gargantuan error in not signing Skatcel. That Skacel lad was no bad aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Buaben has lost his way a bit. Just like Hartley had before he came to us. looking at his career, getting Buaban would be abit of a coup. Certainly a good signing for the squad, if his wage demands are reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylelauren01 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 My God when will people let go. Rudi Skacel is not coming as a player. Let it go, please let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 A 25 gal striker from wherever and we can win league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 A 25 gal striker from wherever and we can win league 25 gal a season? Welcome home Pinilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 My God when will people let go. Rudi Skacel is not coming as a player. Let it go, please let it go. Yup. As a coach its where he can make his future, if he takes up the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinningSmith Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I still think there should be a ban for anyone that suggests Skacel to come back as a player, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I still think there should be a ban for anyone that suggests Skacel to come back as a player, Really? The seeth seems to be strong here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'll honest I've never seen holt make a well timed run into the box. I'm not even sure I've seen hom create a chance with an incisive through ball. These aren't criticisms. His best performances for me have all come from keeping the ball moving intelligently from deep. Happy to be corrected on the above. It could just be that he needs more time playing in advanced positions but I'm always happier when he's playing further back. I'm with you mate, he's wasted being stuck further forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 25 gal a season? Welcome home Pinilla. 25 gal a season, it won't be Pinilla, too conservative a number.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 25 gal a season, it won't be Pinilla, too conservative a number.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 So in theory all these people that want rudi back are forgetting about the fact he was mince at Dundee utd and got released? As opposed to someone who was loaned out to Partick Thistle from Carlisle Utd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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