Boof Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Feck it! Boxing Day will still be fun - mid 20's, beer and cricket! True. My one and only experience of test cricket was day 2 at Old Trafford this summer in amongst, pretty much exclusively, England fans. Most were alright but there were one or two arseholes among them who couldn't handle the day-long beering session who I could quite happily have done without being seated near. As DTD says - England have convinced themselves they're something...and they're really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Warner what a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 It's quite interesting to have a look at page one of this thread. Especially if you're called Boris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Meh. Cricket is pish anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I love cricket type post. Australia are pish. England 5-0 I hate cricket type post. Meh. Cricket is pish anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 No devalued knighthoods for this England team. Arf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Anybody watching the total destruction of the English cricket team? Jimmy Anderson battered for 28 in the final over before the Aussies declared England needing 504 for an impossible win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 0 for 1 wicket already ffs Won't make a fifth day at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny ******* Powers Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Anybody watching the total destruction of the English cricket team? Jimmy Anderson battered for 28 in the final over before the Aussies declared England needing 504 for an impossible win Never bothered getting up to watch today. Glad I didn't. England have been awful on this tour. They'll do well to take this into day 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 KP tempted into going for a biggie and he's gone. That's the batsmen pretty much gone. Get Bell shortly and it's all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll be making the most of the next few hours, as I suspect it'll be the last time England are in possession of that beautiful little urn for many years. We were always going to be in transition regardless of the outcome of this series; now, something like a cricketing nuclear winter might await. Goodbye, KP. Farewell, Prior. Goodnight, Swanny. And Flower will probably go too - along with, if there's any sense, Graham Gooch, our disaster of a batting coach. I can't decide who I blame more for this fiasco of a tour: the players or the management team? But given the only reason we beat the worst Australian side anyone could ever recall was Ian Bell, that they failed to act in the aftermath of that shows our selectors up as a bunch of unadulterated numpties. In particular, their disgraceful, absurd treatment of Nick Compton. Many of England's woes with the bat go back to that IMO: in India, Compton provided real support to Cook, and took the pressure off him. In Australia, neither Carberry nor Root have been able to do the same - so the captain's ended up exposed, and the whole batting line-up is just plain flimsy. Massive credit to Australia, though. The speed with which they've turned it round has been magnificent - and I just don't buy this "poor Australian side" stuff any longer. They're tough, they're grizzled, they've played hardened Test match cricket, and they've ground us into the dirt. Allan Border's 1989 side would be proud of this team. All that's left is for them to complete the whitewash which both they and England deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll be making the most of the next few hours, as I suspect it'll be the last time England are in possession of that beautiful little urn for many years. We were always going to be in transition regardless of the outcome of this series; now, something like a cricketing nuclear winter might await. Goodbye, KP. Farewell, Prior. Goodnight, Swanny. And Flower will probably go too - along with, if there's any sense, Graham Gooch, our disaster of a batting coach. I can't decide who I blame more for this fiasco of a tour: the players or the management team? But given the only reason we beat the worst Australian side anyone could ever recall was Ian Bell, that they failed to act in the aftermath of that shows our selectors up as a bunch of unadulterated numpties. In particular, their disgraceful, absurd treatment of Nick Compton. Many of England's woes with the bat go back to that IMO: in India, Compton provided real support to Cook, and took the pressure off him. In Australia, neither Carberry nor Root have been able to do the same - so the captain's ended up exposed, and the whole batting line-up is just plain flimsy. Massive credit to Australia, though. The speed with which they've turned it round has been magnificent - and I just don't buy this "poor Australian side" stuff any longer. They're tough, they're grizzled, they've played hardened Test match cricket, and they've ground us into the dirt. Allan Border's 1989 side would be proud of this team. All that's left is for them to complete the whitewash which both they and England deserve. I agree with you about Compton's treatment, which was to allow golden boy Root to open, but criticising Carberry is harsh. He has an excellent technique and has out-batted his skipper. Root is batting too high even though he can stand up to the quicks. Bell has been wasted at 5 since Trott went home. Team for Boxing Day: Cook, Carberry, Bell, Ballance, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Prior (since Bairstow isn't to be trusted with the gloves), Bresnan, Anderson, Panesar KP can GTF. Prior can GTF after the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I agree with you about Compton's treatment, which was to allow golden boy Root to open, but criticising Carberry is harsh. He has an excellent technique and has out-batted his skipper. Root is batting too high even though he can stand up to the quicks. Bell has been wasted at 5 since Trott went home. Team for Boxing Day: Cook, Carberry, Bell, Ballance, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Prior (since Bairstow isn't to be trusted with the gloves), Bresnan, Anderson, Panesar KP can GTF. Prior can GTF after the series Oh, I like Carberry. I just like Compton far more. And I just cannot fathom how they can drop Compton because they don't think he's good enough (but that's BS: I think it's because he's cocky and a bit different, and only geniuses like KP are allowed to be like that where the selectors are concerned), but put Carberry in the side instead. He's close to being a journeyman IMO: who gives his all, has an excellent temperament, but is never, ever going to make the kind of impact on a series Down Under which English openers need to make. Also - how can they leave Compton out, bring Bairstow instead, then show they don't trust Bairstow anyway? Can't fathom that either - especially as dropping Prior's pretty much an open and shut case now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It's quite interesting to have a look at page one of this thread. Especially if you're called Boris After hubris comes nemisis. Leading to catharsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Not sure I agree with this snicko technology, Bell out but looked for all the world that he had a fresh air swipe. Edit: Fair enough according to Beefy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Not sure I agree with this snicko technology, Bell out but looked for all the world that he had a fresh air swipe. Edit: Fair enough according to Beefy. He did - but he was really, really unlucky, and it just caught the back of his bat instead. I was watching Hotspot bemused that nothing was showing up, but Beefy explained why. Snicko's really, really reliable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 He did - but he was really, really unlucky, and it just caught the back of his bat instead. I was watching Hotspot bemused that nothing was showing up, but Beefy explained why. Snicko's really, really reliable too. Yes, just read that the natural heat in the bat can mask a very thin edge whereas Snicko will pick it up. Problems can arise with Snicko with spinners though when the keeper moves in close and can make noises that confuse it. Suppose nothing's perfect but it seems pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Stokes embarrassing better batsmen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 No danger Broad is playing in this test and probably finished for the series too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 England half way there, can see them winning this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 England half way there, can see them winning this now. If they win ill personally make u brekky one morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll be making the most of the next few hours, as I suspect it'll be the last time England are in possession of that beautiful little urn for many years. We were always going to be in transition regardless of the outcome of this series; now, something like a cricketing nuclear winter might await. Goodbye, KP. Farewell, Prior. Goodnight, Swanny. And Flower will probably go too - along with, if there's any sense, Graham Gooch, our disaster of a batting coach. I can't decide who I blame more for this fiasco of a tour: the players or the management team? But given the only reason we beat the worst Australian side anyone could ever recall was Ian Bell, that they failed to act in the aftermath of that shows our selectors up as a bunch of unadulterated numpties. In particular, their disgraceful, absurd treatment of Nick Compton. Many of England's woes with the bat go back to that IMO: in India, Compton provided real support to Cook, and took the pressure off him. In Australia, neither Carberry nor Root have been able to do the same - so the captain's ended up exposed, and the whole batting line-up is just plain flimsy. Massive credit to Australia, though. The speed with which they've turned it round has been magnificent - and I just don't buy this "poor Australian side" stuff any longer. They're tough, they're grizzled, they've played hardened Test match cricket, and they've ground us into the dirt. Allan Border's 1989 side would be proud of this team. All that's left is for them to complete the whitewash which both they and England deserve. How about all this nonsense of having an 80 page dossier on what to eat (or some such guff)? Just get back to basics. Pick decent players, play to the strengths and move people on when they are not performing. Some of the selection picks for the tour were downright weird. Back to this game....Will Broad bat? Hope so, because then Johnson can hit him on the other foot. Would love to see Broad crawling off on all fours. Would be the best laugh since Michael Owen did it in World Cup / Euro Finals /whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Stokes embarrassing better batsmen here. Good century from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 England needing 172 with 4 wickets left at lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Ben Stokes just booked an England career for the next 5 years. Come on Stokes and Bres! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny ******* Powers Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wel that went downhill rapidly. Ashes gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spineless England get exactly what they deserve. I wouldn't bet against 5-0 in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Ben Stokes. The rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I said back in the summer that in time Lehman would turn the Australians into a decent unit , didn't expect such a drubbing . The big name England players need a good look at themselves shocking performances from all of them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 FACT. Mitchell Johnson has a picture of Ryan McGowan on his bedroom wall. FACT. Stuart Broad has been in regular contact with his mentor and inspiration James McPake throughout the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 "I haven't seen anything to remotely make me feel as though I need to change my initial prediction of a double 5-0," "I haven't seen anything to remotely make me feel as though I need to change my initial prediction of a double 5-0," "I haven't seen anything to remotely make me feel as though I need to change my initial prediction of a double 5-0," "I haven't seen anything to remotely make me feel as though I need to change my initial prediction of a double 5-0," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Haha nae joy beefy, 5-0 Australia here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Ben Stokes. The rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The 3-0 summer scoreline completely flattered England. They deserved to win that series but they were by no means as dominant as the score suggested. This meant that England travelled over-confidently and the Aussies were hurting, embarrassed and downright angry. It doesn't take much for the pendulum to swing the other way and the slight drop in England's mental approach - and maybe the start of the decline for a couple of their star players - together with the supreme focus and mental preparation of the Aussies has led us to where we are now. The most dispiriting thing about this series is that this is no vintage Aussie team and I expect this series has surprised many down under as much as it has us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirk_Jambo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://mycrickethighlights.com/ashes-3rd-test-day-5-cricket-highlights-2013-17th-december/ Check out the ball from Lyon. Pitches on middle, hits a crack and get taken at leg slip. The pitch was in some nick by the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://mycrickethighlights.com/ashes-3rd-test-day-5-cricket-highlights-2013-17th-december/ Check out the ball from Lyon. Pitches on middle, hits a crack and get taken at leg slip. The pitch was in some nick by the end. Called For a wide as well. Harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Where now for England? I could be wrong but the Windies and Aussie's dominace was built on having a great set of players, keeping the same core of 9 or 10 each season and then as 1 player retired, a new player came in. Even guys not quite on form kept playing to retain team stability. Similar to Liverpool's dominace of European football for nearly ten years and 20 in England - before money took over. Relatively speaking England have had a small window of dominance but are virtually back to square one again with more wholesale changes being talked about. This link hasn't been updated since May, but they could end up 4th or 5th again realtively soon. http://www.icc-eliteofficials.com/match_zone/test_ranking.php?year=2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Where now for England? I could be wrong but the Windies and Aussie's dominace was built on having a great set of players, keeping the same core of 9 or 10 each season and then as 1 player retired, a new player came in. Even guys not quite on form kept playing to retain team stability. Similar to Liverpool's dominace of European football for nearly ten years and 20 in England - before money took over. Relatively speaking England have had a small window of dominance but are virtually back to square one again with more wholesale changes being talked about. This link hasn't been updated since May, but they could end up 4th or 5th again realtively soon. http://www.icc-elite...g.php?year=2013 Kind of like where Australia were after the 2007(?) series where they regained the Ashes. Lots of big names retired after and Australia weren't quite the same. WIndies up and coming at Test level again, India there or thereabouts. I reckon Flower will quit as head coach and then it will be interesting to see who follows that. There are good cricketers in England, they just need to pick the right ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The 3-0 summer scoreline completely flattered England. They deserved to win that series but they were by no means as dominant as the score suggested. This meant that England travelled over-confidently and the Aussies were hurting, embarrassed and downright angry. It doesn't take much for the pendulum to swing the other way and the slight drop in England's mental approach - and maybe the start of the decline for a couple of their star players - together with the supreme focus and mental preparation of the Aussies has led us to where we are now. The most dispiriting thing about this series is that this is no vintage Aussie team and I expect this series has surprised many down under as much as it has us. Aussie bowling attack have shown they are now perhaps the best in the world? Siddle and Watson to bowl dry, Lyon excellent, Johnson to knock over the tail and the best of the lot Ryan Harris who would share the new ball with Dale Steyn in my world XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Aussie bowling attack have shown they are now perhaps the best in the world? Siddle and Watson to bowl dry, Lyon excellent, Johnson to knock over the tail and the best of the lot Ryan Harris who would share the new ball with Dale Steyn in my world XI. They are decent but England have got themselves out in this series with stupid shots. Johnson scared the shite out of the tail in the first two but he was ordinary on the WACA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 They are decent but England have got themselves out in this series with stupid shots. Johnson scared the shite out of the tail in the first two but he was ordinary on the WACA. Yes, England batting has been pitiful. Is there a chart available with where the wicket taking balls were heading? Other than Broad's toe crusher and the ball of the century which got Cook would many of the others hit the stumps. Harris is just a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes, England batting has been pitiful. Is there a chart available with where the wicket taking balls were heading? Other than Broad's toe crusher and the ball of the century which got Cook would many of the others hit the stumps. Harris is just a class act. Yep, Harris was the pick of the bowlers in England too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Graeme Swann has retired with immediate effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Jumped because he was dropped IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Graeme Swann has retired with immediate effect. Sad way for him to bow out given those comments on Twitter the other day. A great bowler. Best English spinner of my lifetime by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Twitter comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Bizarre timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Boycott was very kind to Swann. Top class sport, your mind needs to be 100% in the correct place. How very modern man of him. I thought Geoffrey was old school. Man up and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 South Africa's bowling attack is better than any other test sides , as is their batting . Aussie Bowlers are ok but helped by poor English batting not a single English batsman near his best game . South Africa in with a shout of creating a new record run chase against a good Indian team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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