CF11JamTart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yep . It really is . Yet many many gay women's players. Toxic masculinity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, CF11JamTart said: Yet many many gay women's players. Toxic masculinity? Yes well its not unique to football. Think of all the lesbian tennis players? Where are the gay ones? There must be some surely ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF11JamTart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes well its not unique to football. Think of all the lesbian tennis players? Where are the gay ones? There must be some surely ? Clearly, competitive sport doesn't appeal to the gay (male) community. That can be the only explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, CF11JamTart said: Clearly, competitive sport doesn't appeal to the gay (male) community. That can be the only explanation. Ill tell that to a few in the closet footie players i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said: Yet many many gay women's players. Toxic masculinity? Aye, that's a really good point, same in Rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ill tell that to a few in the closet footie players i know. "footie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, Konrad von Carstein said: "footie" It's "soccer" down here for a lot🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 My local MP Joanna Cherry knows the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: "footie" is that u starting again.....? it was a joke...but you wouldnt get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: I don’t think he has ever advocated discrimination against Trans…… merely that some spaces should be reserved for same sex. As a dude, I’m not allowed in those spaces- clearly discriminatory on sex grounds - but I understand it and why it is so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Amen, but I suppose she and everyone involved and who support that charity are just bigots 🤷♀️ Edited July 18, 2022 by Dawnrazor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF11JamTart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ill tell that to a few in the closet footie players i know. My neighbour's aunt was employed by the Manchester clubs in the early 80s to be "seen" out and about with certain gay players. It'd be nice to think we've moved on, but we probably haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF11JamTart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: My local MP Joanna Cherry knows the score. Blooming bigotted middle-aged lesbians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said: Blooming bigotted middle-aged lesbians. It amazes me that women have the audacity to speak about concerns over womens rights, how dare they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: I don't know why it is, prejudice and the fear of it I suspect, and you're absolutely right about all of being more tolerant, you should try it, I'm sure women would love to see you not forcing men into their safe spaces for a start. Why are women feeling threatened by transwomen? How do they even know when a transwomen enters their "safe space"? Are they asking if they've got meat and two veg? They're not being attacked if that's what you're saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said: Yet many many gay women's players. Toxic masculinity? Yes, that's exactly what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: My local MP Joanna Cherry knows the score. Brilliant, I really hope that that bunch of hypocrites lose their charity status. Joanna Cherry is a plum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF11JamTart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: It amazes me that women have the audacity to speak about concerns over womens rights, how dare they. Men should keep them telt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Amen, but I suppose she and everyone involved and who support that charity are just bigots 🤷♀️ Yes they are. Are women being attacked by transwomen in any safe spaces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: is that u starting again.....? it was a joke...but you wouldnt get it... James, for the love of Christ I'm not singling you out, I'm just trying (and failing, clearly) to have a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: Brilliant, I really hope that that bunch of hypocrites lose their charity status. Joanna Cherry is a plum. The voice of reason, it's about time a straight, white middle aged man told these bloody female upstarts what to think, well done👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: It's "soccer" down here for a lot🤬 Outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said: Blooming bigotted middle-aged lesbians. I know how very dare they 9 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: It amazes me that women have the audacity to speak about concerns over womens rights, how dare they. Exactly. It should be up to men to decide what people should be in " only womens spaces" really ! well that seems to be the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, graygo said: Wrong. Anyone can legally use toilets that match their gender. https://www.transactual.org.uk/blog/on-the-policing-of-toilets “there is a legal basis for excluding…” etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: The voice of reason, it's about time a straight, white middle aged man told these bloody female upstarts what to think, well done👏 Back in the kitchen with them all i say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: Yes they are. Are women being attacked by transwomen in any safe spaces? So women voicing concerns about womans rights, saftey and dignity are bigots in your book? It's about time you were launched frim this thread, deary deary me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: So women voicing concerns about womans rights, saftey and dignity are bigots in your book? It's about time you were launched frim this thread, deary deary me!!! Seems to be where is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: The voice of reason, it's about time a straight, white middle aged man told these bloody female upstarts what to think, well done👏 I'm not and never have told a female, whether an upstart or not what to think. You crack on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I know how very dare they Exactly. It should be up to men to decide what people should be in " only womens spaces" really ! well that seems to be the logic. Is it up to you? The answer is no by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: So women voicing concerns about womans rights, saftey and dignity are bigots in your book? It's about time you were launched frim this thread, deary deary me!!! Its all very very misogynistic. Really concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: I'm not and never have told a female, whether an upstart or not what to think. You crack on though. You're supporting men telling women that thay have no righs to safe spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: “there is a legal basis for excluding…” etc Why did you stop before this bit? I bet it doesn't include a transwoman needing a pee. It is worth noting that the legal bar for this is incredibly high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: So women voicing concerns about womans rights, saftey and dignity are bigots in your book? It's about time you were launched frim this thread, deary deary me!!! I've asked several times without answer what women rights, safety and dignity are being breached. Have you got any examples? Why should I be launched? Is it a one sided debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: Its all very very misogynistic. Really concerning. He's actually asked "are women being attacked by trans people (men)"!!! Do women really need to be being attacked to deserve safe spaces? Safe spaces for woman are there so they not under threat of attack surly?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Seems to be where is coming from. Don't argue through others, come at me yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Its all very very misogynistic. Really concerning. Misogynistic? That's something that's been leveled at you before isn't it James? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: He's actually asked "are women being attacked by trans people (men)"!!! Do women really need to be being attacked to deserve safe spaces? Safe spaces for woman are there so they not under threat of attack surly?? That's a ridiculous argument, women are not being attacked by transwomen anywhere, there is no need to make these places you talk about "safe" they already are Unless you can provide some evidence which so far you haven't. Edited July 18, 2022 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, graygo said: I've asked several times without answer what women rights, safety and dignity are being breached. Have you got any examples? Why should I be launched? Is it a one sided debate? I've repeatedly answered you, it's women, as you well know, who are saying their righs being eroded, women! It's not up to me, a man, to tell women they are right or wrong, although you seem to think you're the very person to do that, it's good enough for me to believe womens concerns as I think they closer to the argument than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: You're supporting men telling women that thay have no righs to safe spaces. Made up shite yet again, give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: That's a ridiculous argument, women are not being attacked by transwomen anywhere, there is no need to make these places you talk about "safe" they already are Unless you can provide some evidence which so far you haven't. So you honestly think women should need to be attacked and you don't think women should have safe spaces, you, a man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: I've repeatedly answered you, it's women, as you well know, who are saying their righs being eroded, women! It's not up to me, a man, to tell women they are right or wrong, although you seem to think you're the very person to do that, it's good enough for me to believe womens concerns as I think they closer to the argument than me. Waste of time trying to have any form of communication with him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: Made up shite yet again, give it a rest. You really are a walking contradiction!!! Every post you make is saying there should be no safe spaces for women 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Life is truly a journey, I can recall as a boy my mother throwing a tantrum becuase a male in a store she was using upset her, her rant about him being on of those queeries confused me. Later in life queer, ******, bum jockey are just some of the names I have heard referring to those of different practises. There is now almost an atmosphere of pride in saying I am gay. It would be like saying I am proud of being bald, is it not the claim that homosexuality is in one genes, so there is a actually nothing to be proud of, its just how you are. Its not to me like someone like King Wullie Bauld who was born with natural fitba, talent and made the best use he could of the talent, I was born masculine I was proud of my children but there coming to be was not a particular act of skill, though I must comment that my wife did think I was the best. Its 2022, not 1952, homosexuality is accepted, as is baldness, infidelity and other things that we either have no choice about or make a concious decision to do, enjoy the freedom but lets just accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: So you honestly think women should need to be attacked and you don't think women should have safe spaces, you, a man? Thats it in a nutshell. He ( a man) thinks women do not need specialised places for them to feel safe. " Feel" being the important word here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: I've repeatedly answered you, it's women, as you well know, who are saying their righs being eroded, women! It's not up to me, a man, to tell women they are right or wrong, although you seem to think you're the very person to do that, it's good enough for me to believe womens concerns as I think they closer to the argument than me. After yesterday's conversation I've asked another 6 women if they feel their sex based rights, like having female toilets are being eroded, every single one of them said no in fact 2 of them rightly said how the hell would they even know it was a transwoman. That's 8, I'll let you know when I get to your magic number of 12 but I don't expect it to change. It's a made up imaginary problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 This person would be entitled to go into any womens space . Id watch the video to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, graygo said: After yesterday's conversation I've asked another 6 women if they feel their sex based rights, like having female toilets are being eroded, every single one of them said no in fact 2 of them rightly said how the hell would they even know it was a transwoman. That's 8, I'll let you know when I get to your magic number of 12 but I don't expect it to change. It's a made up imaginary problem. There's a post on here with a link to a womens charity that you have claimed that all involved are bigots, these women are raising concerns over their rights being eroded, women saying their rights are being eroded, what bit about women being concerned about their rights don't you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: So you honestly think women should need to be attacked and you don't think women should have safe spaces, you, a man? Can you actually read? I've said the spaces you are talking about are already safe, women are not being attacked, there is no need to ban transwomen. I can't dumb that down any further for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: You really are a walking contradiction!!! Every post you make is saying there should be no safe spaces for women 🤣 Made up shite again. Those places are already safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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