The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: I generally vote Lib Dem to keep the Nats out in Edinburgh West. When are those ferries getting delivered? Still waiting for to see the legal advice on your Indy Ref 2. I guess that means it isn't good news for trying to circumvent Westminster? Getting on topic, why did the SNP/Labour cartel in Edinburgh ignore the public consultation on Spaces for People and plough on regardless? Add in Nucky's example of Corstorphine parking. These people don't believe in democracy. Crooks and liars. That’s enough about the Tolies what about the other parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, frankblack said: These people don't believe in democracy. Crooks and liars. In a nutshell. You have to wonder what the SNP would have to do for some people to not vote for them. The good thing is that at local elections people are generally more likely to vote for a new party, but I do think some of the cultish SNP fans will plough on regardless even though this has nothing to do with independence. I expect the SNP and the Tories to suffer losses in Edinburgh, Liberals to pick up a few seats, Labour also to probably capitalise. Hope the Greens don't profit but they likely will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: In a nutshell. You have to wonder what the SNP would have to do for some people to not vote for them. The good thing is that at local elections people are generally more likely to vote for a new party, but I do think some of the cultish SNP fans will plough on regardless even though this has nothing to do with independence. I expect the SNP and the Tories to suffer losses in Edinburgh, Liberals to pick up a few seats, Labour also to probably capitalise. Hope the Greens don't profit but they likely will. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Why would you vote ❎ for the same local government we have in SNP & LABOUR combo we have in Edinburgh yet again? Any reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 The Greens are the most pointless party there is, bring absolutely nothing to the table. As for the SNP, I still don't know how anyone can vote them in, well past their sell by date and only have one focus that causes division and chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Good. No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: I'm voting for the Tory guy in Murrayfield/Corstorphine ward. A local lad who went to Roseburn primary. I like how he's fighting against all the failure policies that the Edinburgh council are forcing through. The latest one is charging for parking in residential areas around Corstorphine, even though the locals rejected the proposals Hell has to freeze over before i would every vote for a Tory.. Is Corstorphine not a Tory held seat. What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, PapaShango said: The Greens are the most pointless party there is, bring absolutely nothing to the table. As for the SNP, I still don't know how anyone can vote them in, well past their sell by date and only have one focus that causes division and chaos. Very fair comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said: Very fair comment The most environmental caring party and they are pointless?? oil snake salesman have had their day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens Or a True BLUE party either .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: The most environmental caring party and they are pointless?? oil snake salesman have had their day.. None of the political parties care about the environment IMO, all in it for themselves. The political parties in Scotland amongst the worst (all of them). Lining their pockets at the taxpayers expense for little in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 The Greens in this country are radical, extremist, sex-pests. Absolute weirdos, with very little upstairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: The Tories in this country are radical, extremist, sex-pests. Absolute weirdos, with very little upstairs. Ftfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off?? Taking away the state of the streets, the overgrown grass, overflowing bins, potholes on the roads etc. Spaces for people Bringing in parking charges and permits for areas miles away from the City centre against residents wishes Charging £25 to pick up your garden waste, then increasing it to £35. Extortionate on street parking charges. Ridiculous, over zealous planning department Serious failures in their care services for young people. Can you name anything good that they've done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, maroonlegions said: Hell has to freeze over before i would every vote for a Tory.. Is Corstorphine not a Tory held seat. What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off?? Is the correct and only answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Taking away the state of the streets, the overgrown grass, overflowing bins, potholes on the roads etc. Spaces for people Bringing in parking charges and permits for areas miles away from the City centre against residents wishes Charging £25 to pick up your garden waste, then increasing it to £35. Extortionate on street parking charges. Ridiculous, over zealous planning department Serious failures in their care services for young people. Can you name anything good that they've done? So all your points could also be the actions of any other council then?? Westminster sets the Scottish budget?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: So all your points could also be the actions of any other council then?? Westminster sets the Scottish budget?? The Scottish Government at Holyrood sets the Scottish budget. You haven't made any case on his other points. We are voting on Edinburgh issues. Edited May 3, 2022 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, frankblack said: The Scottish Government at Holyrood sets the Scottish budget. You haven't made any case on his other points. We are voting on Edinburgh issues. Nope they set it FROM the budget given to then from Westminster.. Do you set your budget from your bank?? Any other cases?? Green bin collections are part of the council tax charge?? Garden waste collection charges are again linked to the Westminster Scottish budget ?? Still the SNP are set to make yet more gains??? Why?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: Ridiculous, over zealous planning department I'd have the lot of them in concrete wellies. Populated by the type of seedy wee power-trip creeps that in the 1950s would've joined the reaching profession when it was ok to beat children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Nope they set it FROM the budget given to then from Westminster.. Do you set your budget from your bank?? Any other cases?? Green bin collections are part of the council tax charge?? Garden waste collection charges are again linked to the Westminster Scottish budget ?? Still the SNP are set to make yet more gains??? Why?? Holyrood sets the council budget. You're so obsessed with Westminster and the Tories that you're totally ignoring local issues The Barnett formula gave Scotland 30% more funding per person than England Spending in Scotland 30 per cent higher per person than in England because of Barnett formula, says IFS (holyrood.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said: I'd have the lot of them in concrete wellies. Populated by the type of seedy wee power-trip creeps that in the 1950s would've joined the reaching profession when it was ok to beat children. 1950s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Holyrood sets the council budget. You're so obsessed with Westminster and the Tories that you're totally ignoring local issues The Barnett formula gave Scotland 30% more funding per person than England Spending in Scotland 30 per cent higher per person than in England because of Barnett formula, says IFS (holyrood.com) Ignoring local issues.. Obsessed with a Draconian UK Tory government that even the Scottish Tories will abide with NATIONAL policies. Barnett foundation , sounds like a Tory cricket club Rotary club.. Pay attention to the BIGGER picture, what happens up here reflects down south.. Like these couple of reptiles. “We can’t have a situation where a UK Chancellor and his family maintain economic interests in the Putin regime.” Domino effect and all that jazz. Full story https://tinyurl.com/3c6ucv4w Edited May 3, 2022 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) If you want to see how this Council has failed the people of Edinburgh, just visit Roseburn. Good to see the shopkeepers are trying to fight back before they go under. PS don't know why that is 90 degrees out Edited May 3, 2022 by The Frenchman Returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: If you want to see how this Council has failed the people of Edinburgh, just visit Roseburn. Good to see the shopkeepers are trying to fight back before they go under. PS don't know why that is 90 degrees out The councils fault.☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? Will take you a minute on Google for who is standing in the Edinburgh wards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The councils fault.☺️ Nobody else has enforced build of a cycle lane taking away all parking and other passing trade. Perhaps you should do some research to stop embarrassing yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Ignoring local issues.. Obsessed with a Draconian UK Tory government that even the Scottish Tories will abide with NATIONAL policies. Barnett foundation , sounds like a Tory cricket club Rotary club.. Pay attention to the BIGGER picture, what happens up here reflects down south.. Like these couple of reptiles. “We can’t have a situation where a UK Chancellor and his family maintain economic interests in the Putin regime.” Domino effect and all that jazz. Full story https://tinyurl.com/3c6ucv4w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, frankblack said: Nobody else has enforced build of a cycle lane taking away all parking and other passing trade. Perhaps you should do some research to stop embarrassing yourself? It was the photo angle I was referring to. Ffs read the reply. Banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Will take you a minute on Google for who is standing in the Edinburgh wards. 10 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced The Libertarian Party certainly have " interesting " policies. Just been reading their manifesto too. Heres their view on the welfare state "The Scottish Libertarians reject the premise of the welfare state that the government has a moral duty to provide for the poor and elderly and services to the community, such as free healthcare, free museums, free education, and free activity and recreational centres. The problem with this premise is that nothing is free. It is paid for through taxation, which means taking money by the threat of force from several individuals to satisfy the needs or desires of other individuals. The welfare state seems like a good thing and many people have reaped the benefits of it over the decades, but overall it has led to an increase in poverty, a decline in educational standards, and a decline in the overall quality of healthcare. More importantly, it has eroded the character of the people of Scotland as they have become increasingly dependent on the state and less self-sufficient." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 My ward has: 2 Tory (vile scum) 2 snp (uneducated scum) 1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition) 1 liberal democrat 1 Scottish green (aka the SNP) 1 Scottish family party?? 1 Scottish libertarian party?? Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Famous 1874 said: My ward has: 2 Tory (vile scum) 2 snp (uneducated scum) 1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition) 1 liberal democrat 1 Scottish green (aka the SNP) 1 Scottish family party?? 1 Scottish libertarian party?? Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. Sounds like same ward as mine. Not much of a choice eh? I feel like just writing something on the ballot paper as a protest vote really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Famous 1874 said: My ward has: 2 Tory (vile scum) 2 snp (uneducated scum) 1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition) 1 liberal democrat 1 Scottish green (aka the SNP) 1 Scottish family party?? 1 Scottish libertarian party?? Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. Easy decision, no point in voting for the status quo, any change can only be an improvement, Lib Dems is the roll of the dice and worth a try Edinburgh is a disgrace under this present council Edited May 4, 2022 by The Maroon Pound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Dennis Reynolds said: It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs. Pretty much this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs. Yep. Won't be going out my way to vote this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 If the First Minister cant even answer a simple question honestly they wont be getting my vote "Speaking ahead of Thursday’s local elections, she argued that to “oversimplify” the debate around trans rights would cause suffering to a vulnerable group. Asked to define the word woman, she said: “I’m not going to. I’m just not going to get into this debate at a level that’s about simplified and lurid headlines.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 and another record broken Worst monthly A&E waiting time figures since SNP came to power | HeraldScotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 50 minutes ago, The Maroon Pound said: Easy decision, no point in voting for the status quo, any change can only be an improvement, Lib Dems is the roll of the dice and worth a try Edinburgh is a disgrace under this present council I have to agree. Thinking of Lib Dems too . DId consider " The Libertarian Party" but read more about them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. Yep. Won’t even bother wasting my time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. Most people probably feel like that but I’d worry about someone’s mental health if they voted in the same Edinburgh council. No doubt the snp will be rejoicing by how many seats they win but this vote really should be about local issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) On 26/04/2022 at 20:45, Ked said: They promised to build 50,000 social housing at the last election. Do you know how many were built? https://theferret.scot/claim-snp-delivered-105000-affordable-homes-true/ Yes, 41,364 affordable homes were built, with progress badly affected by covid. 28,154 of the planned 35,000 social housing (not 50,000) was built, again with progress decimated by covid. Edited May 4, 2022 by Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, jonesy said: The Libertarians have had a fair bit of in-fighting recently and will hopefully sort themselves out to become a credible force in Scottish politics in the future. Well I agreed in principle with some of their policies , they align with much of my thinking ( lack of state involvement with its citizens ) , however I was alarmed at their policies regarding the welfare state and how to “ fix “ it , (relying on charities etc ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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