Council elections 2022

[The Real Maroonblood]

4 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

I generally vote Lib Dem to keep the Nats out in Edinburgh West.

 

When are those ferries getting delivered?

 

Still waiting for to see the legal advice on your Indy Ref 2.  I guess that means it isn't good news for trying to circumvent Westminster?

 

Getting on topic, why did the SNP/Labour cartel in Edinburgh ignore the public consultation on Spaces for People and plough on regardless?  Add in Nucky's example of Corstorphine parking.

 

These people don't believe in democracy.  Crooks and liars.

That’s enough about the Tolies what about the other parties.

[New Town Loafer]

6 minutes ago, frankblack said:

These people don't believe in democracy.  Crooks and liars.

In a nutshell. You have to wonder what the SNP would have to do for some people to not vote for them. The good thing is that at local elections people are generally more likely to vote for a new party, but I do think some of the cultish SNP fans will plough on regardless even though this has nothing to do with independence.

 

I expect the SNP and the Tories to suffer losses in Edinburgh, Liberals to pick up a few seats, Labour also to probably capitalise. Hope the Greens don't profit but they likely will. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said:

In a nutshell. You have to wonder what the SNP would have to do for some people to not vote for them. The good thing is that at local elections people are generally more likely to vote for a new party, but I do think some of the cultish SNP fans will plough on regardless even though this has nothing to do with independence.

 

I expect the SNP and the Tories to suffer losses in Edinburgh, Liberals to pick up a few seats, Labour also to probably capitalise. Hope the Greens don't profit but they likely will. 

Good.

[New Town Loafer]

Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

Good.

[Howdy Doody Jambo]

Why would you vote ❎ for the same local government we have in SNP & LABOUR combo we have in Edinburgh yet again? Any reason? 

[The Real Maroonblood]

10 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said:

[PapaShango]

The Greens are the most pointless party there is, bring absolutely nothing to the table. As for the SNP, I still don't know how anyone can vote them in, well past their sell by date and only have one focus that causes division and chaos. 

[Nucky Thompson]

36 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Good.

No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens 

[Ray Gin]

37 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Good.

 

 

[maroonlegions]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I'm voting for the Tory guy in Murrayfield/Corstorphine ward.

A local lad who went to Roseburn primary.

I like how he's fighting against all the failure policies that the Edinburgh council are forcing through.

The latest one is charging for parking in residential areas around Corstorphine, even though the locals rejected the proposals

Hell has to freeze over before i would every vote for a Tory..

 

Is Corstorphine not a Tory held seat.

 

What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off??

 

 

  

[manaliveits105]

33 minutes ago, PapaShango said:

The Greens are the most pointless party there is, bring absolutely nothing to the table. As for the SNP, I still don't know how anyone can vote them in, well past their sell by date and only have one focus that causes division and chaos. 

Very fair comment 

[maroonlegions]

1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said:

Very fair comment 

 

The most environmental caring party and they are pointless??

 

oil snake salesman have had their day..  

[The Real Maroonblood]

13 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens 

[maroonlegions]

17 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No self respecting Hearts supporter would vote for a party called the Greens 

Or a True BLUE party either ..

 

[PapaShango]

13 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

 

The most environmental caring party and they are pointless??

 

oil snake salesman have had their day..  

None of the political parties care about the environment IMO, all in it for themselves. The political parties in Scotland amongst the worst (all of them). Lining their pockets at the taxpayers expense for little in return. 

[New Town Loafer]

The Greens in this country are radical, extremist, sex-pests. 
 

Absolute weirdos, with very little upstairs.

[The Real Maroonblood]

14 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said:

The Tories in this country are radical, extremist, sex-pests. 
 

Absolute weirdos, with very little upstairs.

Ftfy.

[Nucky Thompson]

1 hour ago, maroonlegions said:

 

 

What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off??

 

 

  

Taking away the state of the streets, the overgrown grass, overflowing bins, potholes on the roads etc.

 

Spaces for people 

Bringing in parking charges and permits for areas miles away from the City centre against residents wishes

 

Charging £25 to pick up your garden waste, then increasing it to £35.

 

Extortionate on street parking charges.

 

Ridiculous, over zealous planning department

 

Serious failures in their care services for young people.

 

 

Can you name anything good that they've done?

 

[Montgomery Brewster]

2 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

Hell has to freeze over before i would every vote for a Tory..

 

Is Corstorphine not a Tory held seat.

 

What other "failure policies" are there that you speak off??

 

 

  

Is the correct and only answer.

 

 

[maroonlegions]

53 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Taking away the state of the streets, the overgrown grass, overflowing bins, potholes on the roads etc.

 

Spaces for people 

Bringing in parking charges and permits for areas miles away from the City centre against residents wishes

 

Charging £25 to pick up your garden waste, then increasing it to £35.

 

Extortionate on street parking charges.

 

Ridiculous, over zealous planning department

 

Serious failures in their care services for young people.

 

 

Can you name anything good that they've done?

 

So all your points could also be the actions of any other council then??

 

Westminster sets the Scottish budget??  

[frankblack]

13 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

So all your points could also be the actions of any other council then??

 

Westminster sets the Scottish budget??  

 

The Scottish Government at Holyrood sets the Scottish budget.

 

You haven't made any case on his other points.  We are voting on Edinburgh issues.

Edited May 3, 2022 by frankblack

[maroonlegions]

18 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

The Scottish Government at Holyrood sets the Scottish budget.

 

You haven't made any case on his other points.  We are voting on Edinburgh issues.

Nope they set it FROM the budget given to then from Westminster..  Do you set your budget from your bank??

 

Any other cases??

 

Green bin collections are part of the council  tax charge??

 

Garden waste collection charges are again linked to the Westminster Scottish budget ??

 

Still the SNP are set to make yet more gains???

 

Why??

 

 

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

 

Ridiculous, over zealous planning department

 

 

I'd have the lot of them in concrete wellies.

 

Populated by the type of seedy wee power-trip  creeps that in the 1950s would've joined the reaching profession when it was ok to beat children.

[Nucky Thompson]

4 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

Nope they set it FROM the budget given to then from Westminster..  Do you set your budget from your bank??

 

Any other cases??

 

Green bin collections are part of the council  tax charge??

 

Garden waste collection charges are again linked to the Westminster Scottish budget ??

 

Still the SNP are set to make yet more gains???

 

Why??

 

 

 

Holyrood sets the council budget.

 

You're so obsessed with Westminster and the Tories that you're totally ignoring local issues

 

The Barnett formula gave Scotland 30% more funding per person than England

 

Spending in Scotland 30 per cent higher per person than in England because of Barnett formula, says IFS (holyrood.com)

 

 

 

 

[maroonlegions]

4 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said:

 

I'd have the lot of them in concrete wellies.

 

Populated by the type of seedy wee power-trip  creeps that in the 1950s would've joined the reaching profession when it was ok to beat children.

 

1950s.

 

 

[maroonlegions]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Holyrood sets the council budget.

 

You're so obsessed with Westminster and the Tories that you're totally ignoring local issues

 

The Barnett formula gave Scotland 30% more funding per person than England

 

Spending in Scotland 30 per cent higher per person than in England because of Barnett formula, says IFS (holyrood.com)

 

 

 

 

Ignoring local issues..

 

Obsessed with a Draconian  UK Tory government that even the Scottish  Tories will abide with NATIONAL policies.

 

 

Barnett foundation , sounds like a Tory cricket club  Rotary club..

 

 

 

 

 

Pay attention to the BIGGER picture, what happens up here reflects down south..

 

 

Like these couple of reptiles.

 

“We can’t have a situation where a UK Chancellor and his family maintain economic interests in the Putin regime.”

Domino effect and all that jazz.

 

Full story https://tinyurl.com/3c6ucv4w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

Edited May 3, 2022 by maroonlegions

[JudyJudyJudy]

Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? 

[Shanks said no]

 

If you want to see how this Council has failed the people of Edinburgh, just visit Roseburn. 

 

Good to see the shopkeepers are trying to fight back before they go under.

 

PS don't know why that is 90 degrees out

 

 

Edited May 3, 2022 by The Frenchman Returns

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

 

If you want to see how this Council has failed the people of Edinburgh, just visit Roseburn. 

 

Good to see the shopkeepers are trying to fight back before they go under.

 

PS don't know why that is 90 degrees out

 

 

The councils fault.☺️

[John Findlay]

24 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? 

Will take you a minute on Google for who is standing in the Edinburgh wards.

[frankblack]

19 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

The councils fault.☺️

 

 

Nobody else has enforced build of a cycle lane taking away all parking and other passing trade.

 

Perhaps you should do some research to stop embarrassing yourself?

[Shanks said no]

36 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Honestly sickened by all politicians , even at local level. Only hoping that theres an ALBA candidate in my area but not sure. Is there anywhere where you can actually see the list of those who will be on the ballot paper in ones ward? 

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced

[Nucky Thompson]

38 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

Ignoring local issues..

 

Obsessed with a Draconian  UK Tory government that even the Scottish  Tories will abide with NATIONAL policies.

 

 

Barnett foundation , sounds like a Tory cricket club  Rotary club..

 

 

 

 

 

Pay attention to the BIGGER picture, what happens up here reflects down south..

 

 

Like these couple of reptiles.

 

“We can’t have a situation where a UK Chancellor and his family maintain economic interests in the Putin regime.”

Domino effect and all that jazz.

 

Full story https://tinyurl.com/3c6ucv4w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, frankblack said:

 

 

Nobody else has enforced build of a cycle lane taking away all parking and other passing trade.

 

Perhaps you should do some research to stop embarrassing yourself?

It was the photo angle I was referring to.

Ffs read the reply. 

Banter.

[JudyJudyJudy]

21 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Will take you a minute on Google for who is standing in the Edinburgh wards.

 

10 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced

Thank you 

[JudyJudyJudy]

45 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13459/edinburgh-candidates-for-council-elections-announced

The Libertarian Party certainly have " interesting " policies.  Just been reading their manifesto too. Heres their view on the welfare state  

 

"The Scottish Libertarians reject the premise of the welfare state that the government has a moral duty to provide for the poor and elderly and services to the community, such as free healthcare, free museums, free education, and free activity and recreational centres.  The problem with this premise is that nothing is free.  It is paid for through taxation, which means taking money by the threat of force from several individuals to satisfy the needs or desires of other individuals.

The welfare state seems like a good thing and many people have reaped the benefits of it over the decades, but overall it has led to an increase in poverty, a decline in educational standards, and a decline in the overall quality of healthcare.  More importantly, it has eroded the character of the people of Scotland as they have become increasingly dependent on the state and less self-sufficient." 

[Famous 1874]

My ward has:

2 Tory (vile scum)

2 snp (uneducated scum)

1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition)

1 liberal democrat

1 Scottish green (aka the SNP)

1 Scottish family party??

1 Scottish libertarian party??

 

Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 hours ago, Famous 1874 said:

My ward has:

2 Tory (vile scum)

2 snp (uneducated scum)

1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition)

1 liberal democrat

1 Scottish green (aka the SNP)

1 Scottish family party??

1 Scottish libertarian party??

 

Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. 

 

Sounds like same ward as mine.  Not much of a choice eh?  I feel like just writing something on the ballot paper as a protest vote really. 

[Howdy Doody Jambo]

9 hours ago, Famous 1874 said:

My ward has:

2 Tory (vile scum)

2 snp (uneducated scum)

1 labour (already failed in the current SNP / labour coalition)

1 liberal democrat

1 Scottish green (aka the SNP)

1 Scottish family party??

1 Scottish libertarian party??

 

Seeing as Edinburgh is a disgrace under the current SNP / Labour coalition and the fact that I absolutely hate the SNP and the tories, I don’t really have much of a choice than to vote Liberal Democrats in this one. 

 

Easy decision, no point in voting for the status quo, any change can only be an improvement, Lib Dems is the roll of the dice and  worth a try Edinburgh is a disgrace under this present council 

Edited May 4, 2022 by The Maroon Pound

[Dennis Reynolds]

It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs.

Pretty much this.

[jack D and coke]

I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. 

[Lord Montpelier]

27 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

It really is a case of 'who do I think won't be the worst' which is a really sad state of affairs.

Yep. Won't be going out my way to vote this time. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

If the First Minister cant even answer a simple question honestly they wont be getting my vote

 

 

"Speaking ahead of Thursday’s local elections, she argued that to “oversimplify” the debate around trans rights would cause suffering to a vulnerable group.

Asked to define the word woman, she said: “I’m not going to. I’m just not going to get into this debate at a level that’s about simplified and lurid headlines.”

[JudyJudyJudy]

and another record broken 

 

 

Worst monthly A&E waiting time figures since SNP came to power | HeraldScotland

[JudyJudyJudy]

50 minutes ago, The Maroon Pound said:

Easy decision, no point in voting for the status quo, any change can only be an improvement, Lib Dems is the roll of the dice and  worth a try Edinburgh is a disgrace under this present council 

I have to agree. Thinking of Lib Dems too .  DId consider  " The Libertarian Party" but read more about them....

[AlimOzturk]

16 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. 

Yep. Won’t even bother wasting my time 

[Dazo]

39 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I don’t think I can stomach voting for any of them anymore. 

Most people probably feel like that but I’d worry about someone’s mental health if they voted in the same Edinburgh council. No doubt the snp will be rejoicing by how many seats they win but this vote really should be about local issues. 

[Unknown user]

On 26/04/2022 at 20:45, Ked said:

They promised to build 50,000 social housing at the last election.

Do you know how many were built?

 

https://theferret.scot/claim-snp-delivered-105000-affordable-homes-true/

 

Yes, 41,364 affordable homes were built, with progress badly affected by covid. 

28,154 of the planned 35,000 social housing (not 50,000) was built, again with progress decimated by covid.

Edited May 4, 2022 by Smithee

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, jonesy said:

The Libertarians have had a fair bit of in-fighting recently and will hopefully sort themselves out to become a credible force in Scottish politics in the future. 

Well I agreed in principle with some of their policies , they align with much of my thinking ( lack of state involvement with its citizens ) , however I was alarmed at their policies regarding the welfare state and how to “ fix “ it , (relying on charities etc )