AndyNic Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: I am going to just wait and see and I definitely am not going to judge him before I have had a chance to watch him play but i think some one posted that of those 13 goals he score 11 were penalties ........................ I am optimistic though 17 goals that season. 12 of which were penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: It reminds me, I remember saying the best transfer policy should be about finding players who are best fit for your system who are playing at teams where they dont fit that system. Basically you get the player right for you and you can save a lot of money as the selling club thinks the player is poor and wants rid. Barrie McKay being prime example of that. You'd think we had poached him from an EPL team some weeks. His record down south is less than whelming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Shankland was pre season straining at Beerhof today, so he won't be getting revealed anytime soon. Stuck toley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Shankland was pre season training at Beerhof today, so he won't be getting revealed anytime soon. https://mobile.twitter.com/kbeerschotva Unless, they agree a deal and he flies over later on. Unlikely, but possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, AndyNic said: 17 goals that season. 12 of which were penalties. Stats taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jorge-grant/leistungsdaten/spieler/334964/saison/2020/plus/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, JamboAl said: If we sign Grant will we still be interested in Ronan? I somehow get the impression it's either/or. That might depend on whether or not we plan on moving any players on. We've lost a few who were on loan and some on contracts didn't really meet the standard required. If we did get both it could be at the expense of someone already here to free up some of the budget or viewed as a replacement for someone who was on loan last season but won't be coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, AndyNic said: Stats taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jorge-grant/leistungsdaten/spieler/334964/saison/2020/plus/1 Still quite impressive when you consider how many pens we’ve missed in recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: I agree. There are a lot of people commenting as if the only way to improve is to sign players who would be a definite first choice ahead of who we already have. But players who improve or expand our squad at the same quality are also like to improve us overall over the course of a season. I'm sure that we will aim to sign some players to go into the first XI. But Neilson has talked about going from a 21 to a 24 man squad, so there will doubtless be some players signed who are seen as improving the squad as their main asset. Like you say it'll be a mix of 1st choice players and then squad players, the difference is that the squad players will be of a level to compete for a first team place, we won't be signing the likes of a Popescu to sit around until we have 3 centre halves out injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, AndyNic said: 17 goals that season. 12 of which were penalties. Thanks that was it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 IMO I reckon we will get all four of Shankland, Grant, Ronan, Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 IMO I reckon we will get all four of Shankland, Grant, Ronan, Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Bauld said: Well apparently Ronan is their number 1 target. I'd happily take him but I see him as a squad player at the moment rather than instant starter. If that is the height of their ambition against the money they are bringing in then I am not even slightly concerned. Meant for Grant - As I said above most of our management and recruitment team will have seen this guy in the flesh in theIr time down south. So that adds a layer of confidence. Re Ronan - if he is Aberdeen’s number 1 signing target this summer - nothing to worry about whether they get him or not. 8 minutes ago, AndyNic said: 17 goals that season. 12 of which were penalties. We need a decent pen taker to be fair. Understand the point but never underestimate a decent pen taker. We don’t currently appear to have a reliable one and will get at least 10-15 pens a season. Edited June 20, 2022 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Newton51 said: Right. Where's the youtube highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: And Musemic Was there not some tale about him which might be a myth but sounds like something we’d do back in the day A very good international player called Husref Musemic scored against Scotland. Forget which country it was. Couple of months later and we’re offered Husref Musimic for a rock bottom deal, so we bite their hands off without really thinking about it. Lo and behold Husref Musemic duly rocks up, except it’s not THEE Husref Musemic, it’s another player with the same, apparently very common name. Still scored a derby winner though Funny if true I suppose. Could be urban myth. Edited June 20, 2022 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, SCFHearts said: Aberdeen will no doubt give us a run for 3rd, they will spend I'm not sure. I heard from a reasonably reliable source that their budget was set. That the Ramsey money won't change it. It'll still be a decent budget and certainly their wages will be at least as high as ours if not higher. But they won't be adding the Liverpool money to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, August Landmesser said: Most importantly, is he 'george' or 'horhay' ? 😂.... I was thinking the same, has to be 'Horhay'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Simms mate a good alternative. Plenty options. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, RS86 said: Right. Where's the youtube highlights Probably on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, AndyNic said: 17 goals that season. 12 of which were penalties. Thank fk somebody that can take a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, RS86 said: Right. Where's the youtube highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SCFHearts said: Aberdeen will no doubt give us a run for 3rd, they will spend They certainly have the cash to do so. If they are not top 4 then it’s surely a disappointing season for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Simms mate a good alternative. Plenty options. IMO. Better options 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil D. Corners said: Pickle flavour, was great. Space raiders and Tangy Toms were also good in a soft roll. Im warming to Grant already. Bacon and egg roll with brown sauce and a layer of XL cheese crisps. Utter heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Was there not some tale about him which might be a myth but sounds like something we’d do back in the day A very good international player called Husref Musemic scored against Scotland. Forget which country it was. Couple of months later and we’re offered Husref Musimic for a rock bottom deal, so we bite their hands off without really thinking about it. Lo and behold Husref Musemic duly rocks up, except it’s not THEE Husref Musemic, it’s another player with the same, apparently very common name. Still scored a derby winner though Funny if true I suppose. Could be urban myth. A total myth the Husref Musemic we signed was a Yugoslav international (I have seen the team group pic with him it circa 1988) he was also a regular scorer at Red Star Belgrade, I have no idea where this story originated but it’s nonsense, the fact is the guy just didn’t fit in at Hearts and obviously wasn’t suited to Scottish football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, jbee647 said: A total myth the Husref Musemic we signed was a Yugoslav international (I have seen the team group pic with him it circa 1988) he was also a regular scorer at Red Star Belgrade, I have no idea where this story originated but it’s nonsense, the fact is the guy just didn’t fit in at Hearts and obviously wasn’t suited to Scottish football Maybe folk just couldn’t believe how shite he was and the story was born ? 🥹 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Better options 👍 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Obviously do not see all his misses and mistakes in that video and the other one that is available after it but ......................... and i am hesitant to say this ........................ some of his goals remind me of Hartley in term of positioning and runs in the box I am not saying he will be the next Hartley just an observation , also the defending and goal keeping looks dogs dirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, jbee647 said: A total myth the Husref Musemic we signed was a Yugoslav international (I have seen the team group pic with him it circa 1988) he was also a regular scorer at Red Star Belgrade, I have no idea where this story originated but it’s nonsense, the fact is the guy just didn’t fit in at Hearts and obviously wasn’t suited to Scottish football It was a pretty tight Hearts team at the time too, very steady personnel. Would have been hard for anyone coming in, never mind someone with zero English. I remember being really excited to have signed a ‘foreigner’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PapaShango Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sertse said: Good to see Barry behind the curve ball and regurgitating the other article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, Sooks said: Obviously do not see all his misses and mistakes in that video and the other one that is available after it but ......................... and i am hesitant to say this ........................ some of his goals remind me of Hartley in term of positioning and runs in the box I am not saying he will be the next Hartley just an observation , also the defending and goal keeping looks dogs dirt The video is quite old tbh, he's had several teams after Notts, he's not a bad player hopefully we can raise his game, and we could just be the club he falls in love with. I don't like criticising player's as someone, who believes you can always improve a player / individual. That is the sign of a good coach / manager. In this Hearts team you will get chances, with the likes of Barry Mckay in the team. I was harsh on Shankland he's a good player, just wish we had taken him when he was available for free, but that's in the past 👍. With him Boyce, and Simms gives us good attackers, and options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: The video is quite old tbh, he's had several teams after Notts, he's not a bad player hopefully we can raise his game, and we could just be the club he falls in love with. I don't like criticising player's as someone, who believes you can always improve a player / individual. That is the sign of a good coach / manager. In this Hearts team you will get chances, with the likes of Barry Mckay in the team. I was harsh on Shankland he's a good player, just wish we had taken him when he was available for free, but that's in the past 👍. With him Boyce, and Simms gives us good attackers, and options. I was thinking about this earlier and whilst I agree, the reported wages he was on at United made it too much of a risk for us to match at that time imo. Given he also went on to play is best football under Robbie, it's maybe a benefit he had that season and is making his way here now. I think he'll be a very good addition, but I guess we shall wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Probably on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Berra than you said: I was thinking about this earlier and whilst I agree, the reported wages he was on at United made it too much of a risk for us to match at that time imo. Given he also went on to play is best football under Robbie, it's maybe a benefit he had that season and is making his way here now. I think he'll be a very good addition, but I guess we shall wait and see. I think that was Shankland, not Grant mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Grant could be a shrewd addition. Yes there’s value in 22/23 year olds but we need experienced heads. He has played a lot of games and could bring that to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_steve Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Maybe folk just couldn’t believe how shite he was and the story was born ? 🥹 He was pretty guffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Grant could be a shrewd addition. Yes there’s value in 22/23 year olds but we need experienced heads. He has played a lot of games and could bring that to us. Feels like an Olly Lee type signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: I think that was Shankland, not Grant mate. Was replying to the bit about Shankland. Edited June 20, 2022 by Berra than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: The video is quite old tbh, he's had several teams after Notts, he's not a bad player hopefully we can raise his game, and we could just be the club he falls in love with. I don't like criticising player's as someone, who believes you can always improve a player / individual. That is the sign of a good coach / manager. In this Hearts team you will get chances, with the likes of Barry Mckay in the team. I was harsh on Shankland he's a good player, just wish we had taken him when he was available for free, but that's in the past 👍. With him Boyce, and Simms gives us good attackers, and options. I am definitely not going to write the guy off and yes the better players are still improving at 27 so hope fully we have an environment here where he can do that if we sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Was replying to the bit about Shankland. So you were, my apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, droid said: Feels like an Olly Lee type signing. I trust Savage more than Levein with signings though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, droid said: Feels like an Olly Lee type signing. i dont know why this keeps getting thrown about. Olly Lee was signed from League two, middle table Luton at the time. Grant's team has just been relegated from the Championship, he was in the league 1 team of the year and was voted team player of the year - none of which Olly Lee had to boast about. Its nothing like an Olly Lee signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, brux said: Why do people think Aberdeen have more money than us: Hearts have 5000 more season ticket sales as it goes to puplic sale Hearts had more prize money last year Hearts have euro income minimum £4m Aberdeen have a larger wage bill Aberdeen sold a player for £5m Aberdeen need to find £75m fora stadium And...Hearts have the foundation So can't understand why people think aberdeen have more than Hearts ? It doesn't matter a huge amount anyway it's not like us or them are old firm amount of money more than each other.Its all about being smarter with what we do have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, droid said: Feels like an Olly Lee type signing. "Feels like" the mantra of this age. Personally, Grant feels like a peppermint pie to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: i dont know why this keeps getting thrown about. Olly Lee was signed from League two, middle table Luton at the time. Grant's team has just been relegated from the Championship, he was in the league 1 team of the year and was voted team player of the year - none of which Olly Lee had to boast about. Its nothing like an Olly Lee signing. Exactly, if anyone reads the Lincoln fans forum from his season in League 1 they all pretty much say he was their player of the year due to his passing ability and goals from midfield. Although the standard isn't the greatest, it's also not the worst around. We have people on this forum saying that Jamie Walker should still be playing for Hearts, a player that is now playing in League 2 down there and who never done anything when down south previously. Grant has played a lot of games in competitive leagues and racked up nearly 30 games in the Championship last season. Maybe the move to Peterborough didn't work out for various reasons, doesn't make him a dud. You can only look so much at stats. If we were purely going on stats some of us might not have wanted Robbo back after scoring zero goals down south! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Jorge Grant isn't exactly getting the juices flowing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: Jorge Grant isn't exactly getting the juices flowing tbh. viagra can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Jorge Grant isn't exactly getting the juices flowing tbh. You writing him off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, PapaShango said: Exactly, if anyone reads the Lincoln fans forum from his season in League 1 they all pretty much say he was their player of the year due to his passing ability and goals from midfield. Although the standard isn't the greatest, it's also not the worst around. We have people on this forum saying that Jamie Walker should still be playing for Hearts, a player that is now playing in League 2 down there and who never done anything when down south previously. Grant has played a lot of games in competitive leagues and racked up nearly 30 games in the Championship last season. Maybe the move to Peterborough didn't work out for various reasons, doesn't make him a dud. You can only look so much at stats. If we were purely going on stats some of us might not have wanted Robbo back after scoring zero goals down south! its definitely not the worst around and the top 5 teams in my opinion would be challenging Scottish bottom six for sure. Despite the negative press around him, Connor Washington was the same - made the step up to Championship, even EPL but didnt cut it. Could see the talent he had. Some folk cant get their heads round the fact that one bad season doesnt mean bad player. His stats from Lincoln and Notts County alone should be enough to see what he would bring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said: You writing him off? Not even kicked a ball for us yet. FIFA football manager has a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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