BackOfTheNet Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: 2019 we were in the Scottish cup final. Then 2020 then last season. Just because you’ve got the memory of a goldfish doesn’t make you right. You’d have remembered if you went to games rather than pretending to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Would caution comparisons and x is an upgrade on y type chat just yet,. We thought Olly Lee was a world beater in his first 5 or 6 games. We also gave Uche an upgraded contract after a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, GinRummy said: 2019 we were in the Scottish cup final. Then 2020 then last season. Just because you’ve got the memory of a goldfish doesn’t make you right. You’d have remembered if you went to games rather than pretending to. Ummmm why do you think he doesn’t go to games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Ummmm why do you think he doesn’t go to games? Just a wild hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Just a wild hunch. Is it the fact he regurgitates other peoples points in different speak making it sound like he does in fact attend the games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Is it the fact he regurgitates other peoples points in different speak making it sound like he does in fact attend the games? 😂 he’s the most obvious troll I’ve ever seen on a football forum. Forgetting cup finals makes obvious troll more obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Sorry, but I just don’t know how anyone can jump to this conclusion having seen the new players in the side a maximum of once. Players often don’t peak until late 20’s, Davenport, for example is only 23. Its not difficult to judge to be honest. We are not talking about 20 year olds. Don't be so defensive, I made a perfectly balanced viewpoint. We have enhanced the squad and cover, I just don't see the starting 11 any better, with 2 king size holes departed since Hampden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 34 minutes ago, Finlay James said: I do laugh at the posters questioning our recruitment, talking like they are experts 😅 If Savage, Neilson and the recruitment team think the guys we have brought in or are trying to sign take us forward, that’s more than good enough for me. Be ****ing boring if we all just agree though eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Its not difficult to judge to be honest. We are not talking about 20 year olds. Don't be so defensive, I made a perfectly balanced viewpoint. We have enhanced the squad and cover, I just don't see the starting 11 any better, with 2 king size holes departed since Hampden I’m not being defensive. You’re making a judgment on one game max. That’s pretty close to being fact. You can’t possibly judge new players on how they’ve played for other sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section s heart Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Jack Torrance said: Was really impressed with Smith in the middle against Stoke. Didn't work against County. Not sure why. Plenty of life in the old dog yet though. Maybe more a compliment to the way they set up. Davenport would be a good acquisition imo. On the subject of improving on last season, consolidating third, staying in the title race until at least January and getting to another cup final, should be our aim, at least. Building on season ticket holders and FoH contributions is going to be tricky in the current climate but we're in a great place. 2 more signings would be great. Thought Smith did well when he moved to WB yesterday. He's still a smart player and agree re life in the old dog yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Pap said: Didnt someone say we are making a "marquee" signing A marquee will at least ensure we’ve good squad cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leisham38 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Simms has got better and better on here every passing week! Like most Hearts fans I liked him but reading the comments on here it’s hard to believe he missed from 4 yards in a cup final for us and was an unused sub for Sunderland today, you’d swear he should be leading the line for Man City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Armageddon said: A marquee will at least ensure we’ve good squad cover Proves we're showing intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Proves we're showing intent. I’ve heard it’s pegged on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Doc Rob said: What sort of player is Davenport? His goal scoring record doesn’t exactly suggest a box-to-box or a 10. I know Robbie loves a defensive midfielder, but surely we have enough of those? No idea maybe a deep lying playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m not being defensive. You’re making a judgment on one game max. That’s pretty close to being fact. You can’t possibly judge new players on how they’ve played for other sides. No I'm making a judgement based on players history. I don't think we are being truthful saying 2, I think it will be more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: No I'm making a judgement based on players history. I don't think we are being truthful saying 2, I think it will be more Exactly my point. Were you able to make a judgement based on Hartley’s history or on the flip side Whelan’s. We are one game in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, MattyK82 said: You’re kidding right? 2018/2019 season - reached SC Final - lost 2-1 to Celtic after going 1 up with 25 mins to play. 2019/2020 season - reached the delayed SC ‘COVID’ final. Lost to Celtic on penalties. 2021/2022 season - reached the SC final. Lost to Rangers in extra time. Not difficult to find out or remember for that matter 🤣😂 🙈 Umm they said we finished 3rd 3 times in last 4 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Finish 3rd more than 2 seasons in a row and get to more cup finals? 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: We’ve been to three in the last four seasons. 2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Umm they said we finished 3rd 3 times in last 4 seasons look at the post you quoted. been to 3 in last 4 seasons. that is quite clearly in reference to cup finals or they would have said finsihed 3rd in 3 of last 4 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, milky_26 said: look at the post you quoted. been to 3 in last 4 seasons. that is quite clearly in reference to cup finals or they would have said finsihed 3rd in 3 of last 4 seasons Ok my original point was the “next level” would be to finish 3 more than 2 times in a row and get to “more finals” - so my point still stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Its not difficult to judge to be honest. We are not talking about 20 year olds. Don't be so defensive, I made a perfectly balanced viewpoint. We have enhanced the squad and cover, I just don't see the starting 11 any better, with 2 king size holes departed since Hampden I agree with you and I'll be surprised and disappointed if it's just Davenport +1. People will reasonably point out that it'll be difficult or impossible to replace those Souttar and Simms with equal quality. That said, I can't conceive that we intend to continue with 3-4-3 but aren't going to fill the fairly obvious absence of a competent ball-playing RCB, or that we're not going to attempt to replace the physical presence or ability to stretch the game we've lost with Simms. I'm still expecting at least 3 in and possibly 4 or 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said: Ok my original point was the “next level” would be to finish 3 more than 2 times in a row and get to “more finals” - so my point still stands how many cup finals would that be then as "more finals" is a washy term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Ok my original point was the “next level” would be to finish 3 more than 2 times in a row and get to “more finals” - so my point still stands We’ve been to three in the last four seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Exactly my point. Were you able to make a judgement based on Hartley’s history or on the flip side Whelan’s. We are one game in. I don't think they are "star players " while Baningime and Simms reek class, it's really not that hard to tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Pure Hibs to celebrate making finals imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, DC_92 said: I agree with you and I'll be surprised and disappointed if it's just Davenport +1. People will reasonably point out that it'll be difficult or impossible to replace those Souttar and Simms with equal quality. That said, I can't conceive that we intend to continue with 3-4-3 but aren't going to fill the fairly obvious absence of a competent ball-playing RCB, or that we're not going to attempt to replace the physical presence or ability to stretch the game we've lost with Simms. I'm still expecting at least 3 in and possibly 4 or 5. Yip, the squad is better, that's the upside. I wish people were able to comment on that too, as you say may not replace those two but not seeing players who I believe are that bit above our League.......yet......there is time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, DC_92 said: I agree with you and I'll be surprised and disappointed if it's just Davenport +1. People will reasonably point out that it'll be difficult or impossible to replace those Souttar and Simms with equal quality. That said, I can't conceive that we intend to continue with 3-4-3 but aren't going to fill the fairly obvious absence of a competent ball-playing RCB, or that we're not going to attempt to replace the physical presence or ability to stretch the game we've lost with Simms. I'm still expecting at least 3 in and possibly 4 or 5. I’m going to go out on a massive limb here and says Rowles will prove to be better than Souttar. Edited July 31, 2022 by LarrysRightFoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I don't think they are "star players " while Baningime and Simms reek class, it's really not that hard to tell They’ve played one game. Simms didn’t reek class after one game. Neither did Souttar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, milky_26 said: how many cup finals would that be then as "more finals" is a washy term League cup finals too and maybe win a few as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: League cup finals too and maybe win a few as well you didnt say win finals just get to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 We need two top class signings,but probably 3 in all honesty. 1 × CF/No10 1 x CAM 1 x RCB Reserve Goalkeeper would be nice as well but doubt that's happening now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, milky_26 said: how many cup finals would that be then as "more finals" is a washy term Six cup finals a season, or Robbie Oot imo booooooo111!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Pure Hibs to celebrate making finals imo. To win a final you have to get into it. :whistling: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, gregzy2k7 said: We need two top class signings,but probably 3 in all honesty. 1 × CF/No10 1 x CAM 1 x RCB Reserve Goalkeeper would be nice as well but doubt that's happening now. Get ready to be disappointed,we are getting Jacob Davenport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 26 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: I’m going to go out on a massive limb here and says Rowles will prove to be better than Souttar. Rowles is a really difficult one. If he was right footed he’d be absolutely perfect. But I’m not willing to lose what Halkett brings us in the middle and the dynamic Kingsley and Cochrane have on the left to shoehorn him in. I still think we need a starting right footed centre half in the Souttar mould, which would leave Rowles as back up. A decent enough one at that once he settles in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: To win a final you have to get into it. : whistling: Lose it isnt worth acknowledging as an achievement. Just ask Ze Germans. Edited July 31, 2022 by Robbies Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, GinRummy said: They’ve played one game. Simms didn’t reek class after one game. Neither did Souttar. They did in my opinion. You seem to be finding it hard to accept a balanced viewpoint, I trust our management. They will know full well what is required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Pure Hibs to celebrate making finals imo. Every teams' fans celebrate making it to cup finals. But you crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Get ready to be disappointed,we are getting Jacob Davenport While I know he is not a marquee signing, what do you know about him. As I am genuinely looking for something that bring more detail about him rather than someone looking at his wikipedia stats. Edited July 31, 2022 by jamboinglasgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: They did in my opinion. You seem to be finding it hard to accept a balanced viewpoint, I trust our management. They will know full well what is required You can’t have a balanced viewpoint after seeing new players in one competitive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Get ready to be disappointed,we are getting Jacob Davenport What’s disappointing about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said: What’s disappointing about that? I was wondering the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Every teams' fans celebrate making it to cup finals. But you crack on. Yes at the Semi. A Cup final loss isnt an achievement. Crap mentality to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: While I know he is not a marquee signing, what do you know about him. As I am genuinely looking for something that bring more detail about him rather than someone looking at his wikipedia stats. Looks like he is another DM https://www.whoscored.com/Players/351685/Show/Jacob-Davenport Looks like a deep lying playmaker more than anything as it says his tacking is weak and aerial is weak.Set pieces very good and long ball passing very good. Edited July 31, 2022 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, GinRummy said: You can’t have a balanced viewpoint after seeing new players in one competitive game. It's not the first game these players have ever played is it? Signing for Hearts doesn't change what you have achieved in football over a period of time. Forrest career is a slow burner and will continue on a gradual incline with us, Rowles has potential to grow in his career, its not an assessment on one game with Hearts, its as if you believe we disregard whatever else they have done to assess a situation. We sign players we can afford for positions as they become available, I happen to believe we will sign better players as the window goes, just as we did last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Yes at the Semi. A Cup final loss isnt an achievement. Crap mentality to have. Getting to a cup final is an achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said: Getting to a cup final is an achievement. 1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said: Getting to a cup final is an achievement. Not if you lose. Whats the prize for the achievement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: It's not the first game these players have ever played is it? Signing for Hearts doesn't change what you have achieved in football over a period of time. Forrest career is a slow burner and will continue on a gradual incline with us, Rowles has potential to grow in his career, its not an assessment on one game with Hearts, its as if you believe we disregard whatever else they have done to assess a situation. We sign players we can afford for positions as they become available, I happen to believe we will sign better players as the window goes, just as we did last season You never know how good a player is going to be, you can guess, based on his career to date but that’s all you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Not if you lose. Whats the prize for the achievement? Before you lose actually getting there is an achievement, that’s why it’s a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: Not if you lose. Whats the prize for the achievement? Getting to a cup final is an achievement. Winning the final is a uniquely special, greater achievement. Losing the final is a painful experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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