redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Herbert said: Amazing how easily that sticks to the west eh. This war is nowt to do with us. We should have learned from the last 20Years that we shouldn't go meddling in things that don't threaten us. It threatens several of my friends, so take a hike Mr "Look the other way". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Herbert said: Amazing how easily that sticks to the west eh. This war is nowt to do with us. We should have learned from the last 20Years that we shouldn't go meddling in things that don't threaten us. I'd like to think this has nothing to do with us In a similar way to how my grandparents probably thought Germany moving into Austria in 1938 had nothing to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Herbert said: That was paid for. They have enough nothing anyway. What's the plural of moose? Any way plenty of them.oh! Oil and gas too! Also plenty peat🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, SectionDJambo said: I think it will be the price that we pay for cutting off ties with anything that provides Russians with wealth. Most people, I think, would accept it as long as there is transparency over any profiteering and the government help people with increasing energy costs. We don’t want to have energy companies taking advantage. Better weather coming in a couple of months might give a window to reset supply chains. Since when did this current government have any concept of "transparency" over anything and since when did they help common people?? NIC contributions increase ect...??? Not a chance of hell freezing over that this current bunch of Russian taking back handers will help or give one feck about anyone but themselves. You can bet yer last Russian "ruble" on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 'Kin hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Herbert said: Amazing how easily that sticks to the west eh. This war is nowt to do with us. We should have learned from the last 20Years that we shouldn't go meddling in things that don't threaten us. How does this not threaten us? I'm sure Chamberlain thought the same with Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'd like to think this has nothing to do with us In a similar way to how my grandparents probably thought Germany moving into Austria in 1938 had nothing to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: We are the US's main allies , so we will be expected to meddle. We're not a satellite state of America we can say no to them like we did with Vietnam and they did with the Falklands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Costanza said: 'Kin hell Interesting solution to the body bag problem. He might not fear the West but Putin has reason to fear the wrath of the mothers of dead soldiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NANOJAMBO said: If we discount a nuclear holocaust arising* from a concerted NATO/European "boots on the ground" approach, does anyone think there's an appetite for getting involved in what would become a European version of Syria ? Ukraine will be abandoned, that's the sad fact. How many of us knew Ukraine had nuclear missiles until 1994 - when it surrendered them to the Russians ? Nuclear missiles you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: How does this not threaten us? I'm sure Chamberlain thought the same with Hitler. Russia aren't bothered about us. He wanted the Ukraine before they got into Nato and he's doing that. He won't go toe to toe with Europe and the U.S. If he manages to get a pro Russian leader installed in the Ukraine then there will be a ceasefire and a return to normality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: I'd like to think this has nothing to do with us In a similar way to how my grandparents probably thought Germany moving into Austria in 1938 had nothing to do with them. My granda left Germany before ww2 kicked off,but always said after it the USA,UK etc. Should have not stopped and went right into russia,he was pretty sharp with politics and seen the way it's was going...I believe Churchill wanted to go into Russia too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtgj Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Herbert said: Russia aren't bothered about us. He wanted the Ukraine before they got into Nato and he's doing that. He won't go toe to toe with Europe and the U.S. If he manages to get a pro Russian leader installed in the Ukraine then there will be a ceasefire and a return to normality. It's not a return to normality if there's no longer a free and open democracy in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Some of the help provided by the West. Going to kill plenty Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, redjambo said: It threatens several of my friends, so take a hike Mr "Look the other way". I would rather it threaten your friends in the Ukraine than my family here in the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, dtgj said: It's not a return to normality if there's no longer a free and open democracy in Ukraine. We don't even have that here 🤣 We are faced with the option of electing a incompetent idiot that's happy to take backhanderd and produce lie after lie or the same with a different coloured tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, dtgj said: It's not a return to normality if there's no longer a free and open democracy in Ukraine. This. Normality my arse. An entire nation of over 40 million people living under a hostile occupying force more like. Yet folk like Herbert dismiss it like it's nothing, showing an utter lack of empathy in doing so. Just because it's happening to someone else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: My granda left Germany before ww2 kicked off,but always said after it the USA,UK etc. Should have not stopped and went right into russia,he was pretty sharp with politics and seen the way it's was going...I believe Churchill wanted to go into Russia too? The Germans wanted to turn around and go east along with the Western allies but we rejected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Herbert said: I would rather it threaten your friends in the Ukraine than my family here in the U.K. Was there any need to say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Herbert said: I would rather it threaten your friends in the Ukraine than my family here in the U.K. What an absolute dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Salad Fingers said: Was there any need to say that? Okay let's goto war with Russia. If nukes fly Edinburgh's got one with its name on it. You happy to see your family obliterated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Herbert said: I would rather it threaten your friends in the Ukraine than my family here in the U.K. Zero out of ten for that comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, SteauaNeedarest said: What an absolute dick. Sorry that I would rather people I know weren't turned into shadows on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Looking at some of the stuff coming out of Ukraine ATM, I doubt Russia wants the full of Ukraine,just the donetsk regions, Kiev's main infrastructure seems to be in the main left intact,mobile signals, electricity etc..hope I'm right😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Herbert said: Sorry that I would rather people I know weren't turned into shadows on the ground. Yes just for people you know. Sod everyone else. Selfish prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, redjambo said: It threatens several of my friends, so take a hike Mr "Look the other way". With the greatest respect, Red, I don't think there have been any posts championing Putin. There has been some incredible hypocrisy from our politicians, which is to be expected, but most posts I've seen from posters who haven't been full on nuke Russia..🤷♂️... have made some decent points about how this play out. I've tried in my posts to mention the very real tragedy in human terms that will result from this but still feel free to point out the facts as I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Call of the invasion at the orders of the Scottish Pretendy Parliament. Jimmy Krankie has spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Herbert said: Okay let's goto war with Russia. If nukes fly Edinburgh's got one with its name on it. You happy to see your family obliterated? There's a difference between showing any sort of concern or empathy for the Ukrainians, which you blatantly don't, and wanting an all-out nuclear war with Russia. Sorry to say it, but there's a good chance if you had lived in an Axis-occupied country during WW2 you would have been an appeaser/collaborator just so you could protect yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, SteauaNeedarest said: Yes just for people you know. Sod everyone else. Selfish prick. Would you be saying this if we went to war and a few bear bombers came over and took out parts of your town. Maybe your family and friends will be under the rubble. If this turned into a war it will hit people here. The Ukraine is better prepared to defend its self than we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Herbert said: Okay let's goto war with Russia. If nukes fly Edinburgh's got one with its name on it. You happy to see your family obliterated? Obviously not. I just think some things are better unsaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: Looking at some of the stuff coming out of Ukraine ATM, I doubt Russia wants the full of Ukraine,just the donetsk regions, Kiev's main infrastructure seems to be in the main left intact,mobile signals, electricity etc..hope I'm right😳 I think, going by what I can glean from what Putin's saying...if you believe it...that you're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Herbert said: Okay let's goto war with Russia. If nukes fly Edinburgh's got one with its name on it. You happy to see your family obliterated? I live pretty near Faslane, Edinburgh won't be in the top 10 list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: Looking at some of the stuff coming out of Ukraine ATM, I doubt Russia wants the full of Ukraine,just the donetsk regions, Kiev's main infrastructure seems to be in the main left intact,mobile signals, electricity etc..hope I'm right😳 Very hard to tell just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I hope he's just going to do the same there as Crimea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Salad Fingers said: Obviously not. I just think some things are better unsaid. So you agree with what I'm saying but I'm wrong for saying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boab said: With the greatest respect, Red, I don't think there have been any posts championing Putin. There has been some incredible hypocrisy from our politicians, which is to be expected, but most posts I've seen from posters who haven't been full on nuke Russia..🤷♂️... have made some decent points about how this play out. I've tried in my posts to mention the very real tragedy in human terms that will result from this but still feel free to point out the facts as I see it. There *have* been posts supporting Russia's attitude towards the Ukraine. Mostly from those who just couldn't give a shit about a country that's distant from us, but also some from at least one poster who is pro-Russian regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Can we no nuke Belarus, their president is a bellend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Herbert said: So you agree with what I'm saying but I'm wrong for saying it? You know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: I live pretty near Faslane, Edinburgh won't be in the top 10 list. There's a few thousand soldiers based around Edinburgh that would be a huge loss for us, Nukes wouldn't be on ration with them anyway with them having over 6k of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Very hard to tell just yet. What's got done there by the looks of it was to blind the military infrastructure,number 1 on the list, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: I hope he's just going to do the same there as Crimea You mean absorb it into Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: Looking at some of the stuff coming out of Ukraine ATM, I doubt Russia wants the full of Ukraine,just the donetsk regions, Kiev's main infrastructure seems to be in the main left intact,mobile signals, electricity etc..hope I'm right😳 Yeah they didn't take Tblisi and they won't take Kyiv. Could be proven wrong mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Herbert said: There's a few thousand soldiers based around Edinburgh that would be a huge loss for us, Nukes wouldn't be on ration with them anyway with them having over 6k of them War heads. I don't think they have the capacity to launch the lot at one time, even if they have 6000 rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Can we no nuke Belarus, their president is a bellend. No. But yes, yes he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: There's a difference between showing any sort of concern or empathy for the Ukrainians, which you blatantly don't, and wanting an all-out nuclear war with Russia. Sorry to say it, but there's a good chance if you had lived in an Axis-occupied country during WW2 you would have been an appeaser/collaborator just so you could protect yourself. Empathy and concern isn't going to help them and I was being sarcastic about letting nukes fly. There's a vast difference between not wanting to get into a fight with Russia and wanting them to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Since when did this current government have any concept of "transparency" over anything and since when did they help common people?? NIC contributions increase ect...??? Not a chance of hell freezing over that this current bunch of Russian taking back handers will help or give one feck about anyone but themselves. You can bet yer last Russian "ruble" on that. I’m as sceptical as you. What I said was that for people to accept an increase in our cost of living due to this Russian aggression, we need to know for sure that no company is benefiting from this outrage. That is going to be a big challenge for our current government who tell so many lies that many people are not going to be easily convinced that someone isn’t profiteering whilst others are worse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, redjambo said: No. But yes, yes he is. He's the present day Mussolini, when Russia are smashed into their box, he'll say "A didnae say that, honest!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, redjambo said: You mean absorb it into Russia? Correct, majority of that region as far as I'm aware are russian more than Ukrainian,that whole region is lots of little pocket states,, similar to the former Yugoslavia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Has Norway enough Gas to supply Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jambo_jim2001 said: Correct, majority of that region as far as I'm aware are russian more than Ukrainian,that whole region is lots of little pocket states,, similar to the former Yugoslavia Why don't they move to Russia then. Edinburgh is full of English, we won't be giving her to England. Edited February 24, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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