The Mighty Thor Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: At least they rule the waves. I've read the 'Senior Service' isn't in much better shape. The reality, which will be exposed by all this, is that Britain is not the global power it once was or indeed thinks it is. Putin and his people aren't stupid. They funded the Brexit campaign knowing that it would fracture the strength of Europe and they found willing patsies in the likes of Johnson, who is in hock to them up to the eyeballs. It's been a long term political chess game and the Russians are masters at that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I've read the 'Senior Service' isn't in much better shape. The reality, which will be exposed by all this, is that Britain is not the global power it once was or indeed thinks it is. Putin and his people aren't stupid. They funded the Brexit campaign knowing that it would fracture the strength of Europe and they found willing patsies in the likes of Johnson, who is in hock to them up to the eyeballs. It's been a long term political chess game and the Russians are masters at that stuff. Fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I've read the 'Senior Service' isn't in much better shape. The reality, which will be exposed by all this, is that Britain is not the global power it once was or indeed thinks it is. Putin and his people aren't stupid. They funded the Brexit campaign knowing that it would fracture the strength of Europe and they found willing patsies in the likes of Johnson, who is in hock to them up to the eyeballs. It's been a long term political chess game and the Russians are masters at that stuff. If Britain is so weak how has Brexit "fractured" the strength of Europe? Having said that, I think you may be right however overplayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) It will be interesting to see what UEFA does now about Russian football clubs. Real Betis is due to play Zenit St Petersburg this evening. All sporting organisations should ban Russian participation in all international competitions until further notice. Edited February 24, 2022 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Putin isn't half going to town to create a distraction for Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Putin and his people aren't stupid. They funded the Brexit campaign knowing that it would fracture the strength of Europe and they found willing patsies in the likes of Johnson, who is in hock to them up to the eyeballs. It's been a long term political chess game and the Russians are masters at that stuff. He's been playing divide and conquer in the US too with his boy Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 **** Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Putin isn't half going to town to create a distraction for Boris. Vlad’s the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 So Putin has said he will nuke us all if we intervene. Call the ****ers bluff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, GBJambo said: So Putin has said he will nuke us all if we intervene. Call the ****ers bluff I'd rather not call the bluff of a mad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The Russian troll farm hasn't clocked on yet I see. Russia needs to be treated as a pariah nation by the world. All diplomatic ties cut off and zero trade. No oligarchs salting their wealth elsewhere, including Putin. Asset seizures if necessary. The guy is a fecking megalomaniac. This will be a step too far though. Another Afghanistan beckons for Russia. At least this time, the West won't be arming the future Al-Qaeda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, GBJambo said: So Putin has said he will nuke us all if we intervene. Call the ****ers bluff You're meant to have a decent hand yourself when you call a bluff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: I'd rather not call the bluff of a mad man. Exactly. No one will win any war in Europe. Even one atomic bomb would have catastrophic effects in the area never mind thousands. Only answer is to try diplomacy. im afraid as any military action from the West would doom us all. Its simple as that. Its all very depressing really. So maybe the last two years of our lives fighting a shitty version, having a crap time, restrictions galore ..was the last 2 years of our lives. ? .is that it ? depressed.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I am confused by this, I thought the threat of mutual destruction and nuclear weapons were meant to prevent wars starting. It seems they only prevent one side from entering them. What a waste........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Smithee said: You're meant to have a decent hand yourself when you call a bluff I think NATO forces could take care of Russia. Besides he won’t do shit when it comes to nukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This is a huge test of the west. It’s fine talking tough but what are they actually going to do? Let’s be honest, when Russia shot down that air liner, no-one did anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The only faint hope is someone from within Russia will take Putin out. His bullying tactics have his people scared though but you have to hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I've read the 'Senior Service' isn't in much better shape. The reality, which will be exposed by all this, is that Britain is not the global power it once was or indeed thinks it is. Putin and his people aren't stupid. They funded the Brexit campaign knowing that it would fracture the strength of Europe and they found willing patsies in the likes of Johnson, who is in hock to them up to the eyeballs. It's been a long term political chess game and the Russians are masters at that stuff. Yip. Look at the last American president and our current PM. Up to their tits in it. Don't think old Joe has the baws for a fight, and there you go ! Perfect timing for them. At least the West has tried to crank up the media to maybe rouse more into action. Was always going to be sanctions though...and Vlad kens it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Boab said: Yip. Look at the last American president and our current PM. Up to their tits in it. Don't think old Joe has the baws for a fight, and there you go ! Perfect timing for them. At least the West has tried to crank up the media to maybe rouse more into action. Was always going to be sanctions though...and Vlad kens it ! If it’s not going to be feet on the ground then the west have to cripple Russia financially. Ban transactions with Russian bank, forbid all trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, GBJambo said: I think NATO forces could take care of Russia. Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: If it’s not going to be feet on the ground then the west have to cripple Russia financially. Ban transactions with Russian bank, forbid all trade Next, they turn off the gas supply, what then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Smithee said: Based on what? Two world wars and one world Cup most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The Baltics and Poland have invoked Article 4 of NATO, highlighted a perceived threat to their borders and meaning that NATO needs to work together. While this was probably happening anyway, it is a good message to tell that sexually repressed twat in Moscow that shit will get very real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Smithee said: Next, they turn off the gas supply, what then? They impoverish themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: While this was probably happening anyway, it is a good message to tell that sexually repressed twat in Moscow that shit will get very real. My father in law has been telling me for years that that Putin is a closet homosexual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, graygo said: If Britain is so weak how has Brexit "fractured" the strength of Europe? Having said that, I think you may be right however overplayed Brexit fractured the bloc. Whether it did in reality is irrelevant, it signalled weakness and division. It signalled a group of nations not speaking with one voice. Putin saw this. Pumped money into the process and the individuals and got the result he wanted. In fact he probably never expected to get what he got from Johnson for a relatively meagre investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: They impoverish themselves. Nobody benefits from this economically in the long term, least of all Russia. Short term he's driven up the price of oil and gas, which are his main (only) exports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Great stuff, Putin. Just as the world is recovering from Covid and trying to get back to normal, you chuck a war into the mix. Prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: If it’s not going to be feet on the ground then the west have to cripple Russia financially. Ban transactions with Russian bank, forbid all trade I would would place a temporary freeze on all assets of Russian passport holders in the UK (regardless of them also holding UK passports), then let them prove that they were acquired by legitimate means. If not, take them into Treasury ownership. Edited February 24, 2022 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said: My father in law has been telling me for years that that Putin is a closet homosexual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said: My father in law has been telling me for years that that Putin is a closet homosexual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Two world wars and one world Cup most likely. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Great stuff, Putin. Just as the world is recovering from Covid and trying to get back to normal, you chuck a war into the mix. Prick. I suppose what doesnt kill ya makes you stronger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Putin isn't half going to town to create a distraction for Boris. Boris does throw a hell of a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/25/moscow-on-thames-russia-billionaires-soviet-donors-conservatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 As Ukraine isn't a member of NATO there will be no boots on the ground but there has to be meaningful sanctions. Has the tory party the guts to hit their donors where it hurts though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tazio said: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/25/moscow-on-thames-russia-billionaires-soviet-donors-conservatives Absolutely reeking of it. James Cleverly was on LBC this morning gas lighting for all his worth that the Tories do 'due diligence' on any funds they receive. He must think we all button up the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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il Duce McTarkin Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Why is that a facepalm. Got something to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This is appalling. To be honest sanctions and talk of UEFA is nonsense now. The international community cannot sit and do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Never mind Scotlands tie with Ukraine. Will this still be going ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/04/military-industry-healthier-than-ever/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Reportedly missiles fired from the south-west in the de-facto state Transnistria where many Russian troops are stationed. Be very interesting to see if there's any advances from the North at the Belarussian border as it is now the only angle they've not struck from. Many fleeing Kiev would suggest they're expecting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tazio said: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/25/moscow-on-thames-russia-billionaires-soviet-donors-conservatives What a shower of filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said: My father in law has been telling me for years that that Putin is a closet homosexual. A homosexual? Oh no, that's us in serious bother now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Never mind Scotlands tie with Ukraine. Will this still be going ahead? Sure I read the other day that Ukraine have withdrawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Des Lynam said: This is appalling. To be honest sanctions and talk of UEFA is nonsense now. The international community cannot sit and do nothing. It's a war that's nothing to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, XB52 said: As Ukraine isn't a member of NATO there will be no boots on the ground but there has to be meaningful sanctions. Has the tory party the guts to hit their donors where it hurts though? I don't know a lot about the politics of all this, but Ukraine want to join NATO so would that be enough for NATO to get involved directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What a shower of filth. Salmo's Russian tv show you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Herbert said: It's a war that's nothing to do with us. History teaches us it starts out this way but soon changes. Shocking state of affairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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